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President pence and state Election Officials. The American People can be tough to read sometimes which confounds many in the modern media, well over half of our fellow citizens believe the former president did engage in criminal conduct and half thank you should be elected president again. By the American People are they for unforgiving or are the American People tired of the sanctimony of those who see flaws and everyone except themselves. I dont know how large the constituency is for fairness to friend and foe for the equal application of the law regardless of politics. I do know the American People have a unique internal sense of what is fair and just and what is not. These are going to be challenging days for our country. We had a president wants a long time ago who was a trial lawyer and famously said may justice be done though the heavens fall. Nowadays it seems more apt that we would hear may my side when no matter what. We are joined by two men that prosecution covered state and federal elliott file and brett tolman. Welcome to you both, elliott let me start with you. Sometimes prosecutors get stuck with unsavory witnesses. But it looks like the former Vice President mike pence might be a Star Witness For The Prosecution whether he wants to be or not, what you make of that. Those huge part of the indictment if im the prosecutor on this case i would lean into moment were donald trump said to mike pence the problem is your too honest. If im the prosecutor i would hit that hard, logically speaking when would you say to someone you are too honest to do this unless you knew deep down that thing you are asking them to do was in fact just honest. Donald trump to go to rallies and say mike pence is a rino were communist, knock yourself out, say that all day long but good luck to the trial lawyer that has to stand up in front of a jury and say ladies and gentlemen, of the jury mike pence is not somebody takes the oath to tell the truth seriously. Trey that is an insult and i dont know if ive ever heard that before in life the 70s to honest. Brett former u. S. Attorney, politicians do live from time to time. I dont want to upset either one of you guys that never ran for office but politicians do live from time to time they even claim they won when they did not. But what makes this criminal fraud as opposed to the normal political fraud. Thank you for having me on i will tell you there is a legal and factual analysis that a prosecutor goes through in deciding whether or not something is criminal and here the real concern that i have is the creativity of crop under prosecutors as of late i still dont believe that prosecutor should be creative. Were supposed to have a system where you have a clear statute that has been violated, Criminal Intent to violate that statute in the facts supported and then you charge that. The real concern you have coconspirators that are lawyers giving advice, there is no real analysis of the advice of counsel defense the Criminal Intent part of the case that is required and thats the concern going into this, this is a political case where the civil law wouldve been adequate to address and deal with the dishonesty about politician who i do think lawfully can be dishonest and we see politicians doing it every day in this country. Trey alright elliott, brett raises a good point, bad facts make for tough law, that is an old Adage Law School i dont want is a bad facts but the interesting ufa collect tours, Pressure Campaign on the Vice President , yet calls of the state Election Officials in january 6 what happened at the capital. Elliott is it possible something to be an awful, awful day for the country but still not meet the elements as brett noted as a criminal statute . Sure that certainly can be the case, the problem with the freespeech argument, donald trump wouldnt be under indictment if he had 50 or hundred or thousand rallies if he simply said falsely that the election was stolen were widespread fraud, no evidence he would not be under indictment if he had done that, where the crossed the line that fake electors gathered in state capitals after the Secretary Of State and the governor signed certification that biden had won the state. If i can make an analogy and come on your show and send the real trey gowdy i run on the streets of new york or South Carolina and say im the real trey gowdy. If i go home and. Out a fake drivers license or Birth Certificate and walk into your bank and sam trey gowdy im here to take out my money then i crossed the line to fraud and forgery and it attempted grand larceny i dont think there was a good faith basis for electors to sign fake or false certificate saying they were duly elected and duly certified. Nothing is a good faith basis for saying to mike pence you should take those rather than the real ones. Trey elliott, i have to caution you as your friend and a lawyer, do not come to South Carolina and say you are me, youre much more popular in my home state that i am so you need to come down here and say your elliott or maybe brett but our viewers are grateful to have two people know what theyre talking about, and share it with us. Thank you for joining us On A Sunday Night. Thank you. Trey lots of questions this week including ones on d. O. J. And hunter Biden Corruption in politics. We love hearing whats on your mind, lets get right to it we start with a question from steve who wants to know what are your views on the d. O. J. Conduct on the hunter biden, biden family investigation. Im certain there are things that i do not know but from what is known that looks like its a really long time to achieve a very modest result, the agents involved, some of them believe the prosecutors handled the case differently showed preference for the target of the investigation. I doubt anyone leaves the u. S. Attorney actually had the power to do what he wanted to do with the president son in the attorney general, the fbi director in the white house could not stop it if they wanted it to. I find that hard to impossible to believe. I would need to know how many people were prosecuted for conduct similar to hunter biden and how those cases were handled and they need to know what specific lines of inquiry or evidence were ignored. What i know for certain people have were rapidly losing confidence to the prosecutors prethe president son is facing a very tiny slap on the wrist and a promise to do better next time while the president s chief rival for the white house in 2024 is facing 500 years in prison. Fiona from north dakota, and hey trey, do you think its possible to have an investigation or an indictment of trump that is independent of any political motive. Possible, yes, likely, not in our current environment, you use the phrase of independent of political motive. Lets start with how we make sure something is independent. How do we find investigators and prosecutors to avoid a bias, devoid of wanting to advance a political narrative willing to say my friends are wrong in my enemies are right, willing to say that justice must be done even though the heavens may fall. We should ask whether trump or anyone else is being treated the same way others have been treated, has others lied to advance politically decisions influence other than the law or the facts. Take a survey of those who investigated trump, have the universally proven their critics right, jim comey, andy mccabe, peter strzok, james clapper, Andrew Wiseman were all empowered to investigate trump, all have and retain a d hatred of him. If youre looking for fairness or independence do not pick investigators or prosecutors who love or hate the targets of their investigation. Everyone on the side of jesus, my mom and my wife are capable of doing something wrong, something unlawful, as such is the nature of humankind. That includes former president trump, he like the rest of humankind is fully capable of committing criminal acts but the public must have confidence in the objectivity, the fairness, the historical equality, the confidence, the independence of those investigating prosecutors. Many people in this country do not believe in the objectivity of prosecutors anymore and that is true actually on both sides of the political aisle. Our last question comes from sharon from murray kentucky. Hey trey, what is your opinion on the best way to deal with the corruption of washington . Send a better people. Politics is not going to be fixed with term limits were laws preventing stockownership or campaignfinance reform, those are all good ideas and youre welcome to do them if you want to but that is not going to cure the problem which some of the people tracked into politics. While i was there i did not see that many people change during those eight years i so good people remain good people and rarely make the news. I saw psychopaths remain that way and become household names. If you come to Congress Corrupt you will leave that way. They come to congress a good decent honest person you can leave that way youre just less likely to get notice coming or going. So to blame washington is to ignore something even older than politics which is pride and ambition and ego. If you want a Better Congress for less corruption send better people. Many good people are not interested in serving or if they are serving the looking for the exits pretty soon after they get there. If you have a question email us at gowdy america fox. Com. The Facebook Files is this more evidence of big tech deciding what is or is not true what role should government play in deciding what speech is free and what speech needs guardrails. Is the purpose of free speech to elucidate the truth or are we willing to put up with lies as a consequence of living and every society. Colorado congressman and House Judiciary Committee member kim has dedicated a good portion of his service in congress to these comp located issues. And he joins us now. Congressman, lets start with your committee your own judiciary committee. You been talking about Big Tech And Social Media way before it was popular to do so so you are the perfect person for me to ask. What if you learn from facebook were now called meta and what do you want or need to know to inform your investigation. First of all we learned a lot about censorship from meta, amazon, apple, google. We learned they are run by a group of liberals woke stores from california we learned that that opinion informs their decisions on what is reasonable and what is unreasonable and they have consistently taken down information on social media platforms like facebook that they decide is dangerous or is this information. We have seen that but even more we have seen instances where they take down videos and other material from very respected conservative thinkers because it disagrees with their views on social issues and other issues. What you and i know as the constitution prohibits the government from interfering in the press and the media and deciding the social media. Alright congressman your deep thinker of deep philosophical, the very people, you are somebody i ask. Im pretty sure you went to princeton and im pretty sure you were on the football team. If i was to say you are on social media and will god forbid went to cornell in water water polo that is not true should i be able to save on a platform doesnt matter how deeply i believe that to be true even though it is not. How do we determine what is true and what is not true or is that even the job of social media. If we look at the things that were said about Abraham Lincoln when he ran for president and when he served as president. People in this country would be astounded and get off of this disinformation high horse and understand that the answer, the Supreme Court said this the answer to lies and misinformation and disinformation is more truth. Is not to suppress or censor the statements. No, i did not play Water Polo At Cornell but if someone said that i did that is okay, especially as an elected official im going to take more incoming and lies but i also platform to try to get my version of the facts and the truth after crete is really dangerous for the left and primarily the left and most on the right think if you Say Something will judge who says it and will judge the content but the folks on the left are really embracing this idea that this information has to be taken off social media because it is dangerous and to take those down and not allow americans to engage in the discourse that is necessary is defensive tour former government. Trey The Search For Truth is never ending and thank you ken buck, take care of yourself. Thank you, you also. Trey the fight against the june Supreme Court justice begins when you are up for Appellate Court judge. He continues well beyond their conversation to the high court. Now a senator from illinois of all places is concerned about ethics. Judicial Crisis Network president ke the impact of a meal goes well beyond feeding our bodies. Food can open Endless Possibilities for people to thrive. Because when people are fed. Futures are nourished. Everyone deserves to live a full life. And with your help, together we can end hunger. Join the movement at feedingamerica. Org actnow trey welcome back to Sunday Night In America members of congress have become more aggressive in criticizing members of the Supreme Court at least one justice is pushing back a little bit. Justice samuel alito is doubtful congress can impose Ethics Guidelines on the high court. A recent interview said congress did not create the Supreme Court, no provision of the constitution gives them the authority to regulate the Supreme Court. Carrie severino is the president of the judicial Crisis Network enjoins us now. Im going back 30 years was is an extremely dangerous thing for me to do but i think the constitution provides for Chief Justice and that is about it. Alito was right that the court is constitutional but funding and jurisdiction and the number nine. I guess all of that does come from congress, doesnt it . To a certain extent they can change the number of justices and alito has pointed this out himself if they want to they could pack the court. It would be politically horrible idea and incredibly damaging to the institution. A lot of mischief they can do but trying to regulate the court and intimidated by the Ethics Guidelines undermines another part of the constitution that the court is the Supreme Court, there is no one over this court, trying to put other judges in control of who sits in the case is simple enough possible. Trey i think Justice Kagan sometime in the last 2436 hours was giving an address in the justice seems remarkably cordial towards one another she made it very clear she was not attacking or disagreeing with justice alito. Her point was congress can provide something of a check that each one of the branches has a check including the Supreme Court. For those under the misapprehension that there is no ethics rules that the Supreme Court justice can do whatever they wanted you, im going to let you disabuse people who may believe that. That is absolutely not the case, there are recusal guidelines and disclosure guidelines that the Supreme Court justice all follows, whats problematic about this legislation it purports to set up a whole new system where another whole set of judges is guessing who gets to sit on court cases, Justice Breyer has spoken in the past about why this can be dangerous with nine justices and Everybody Knows what each one of them stands on the spectrum. It would be very easy to strategically try to recuse justices from cases. Instead of packing the court by getting justices on, how can we subtract justices and force justices on the court. There is not a way to do that. There is a constitutional check on the court just like all the justice and branches have checks, that is called impeachment. If injustice were to be corrupt and commit serious crimes and its happened before. They can be impeached. That is the real check not that congress can be breathing down their next looking over their shoulders and that opens the door. In the Supreme Court of the constitution dictates. I hate to sound oldfashioned im not used to the Supreme Court being a political football on not used to seeing justices to attack because of opinions. Yours to that justice kolya got almost every boat in Ruth Bader Ginsburg got almost every boat. What is happening in respect to the judiciary and how its being treated. I think the way the public is being treated as a reaction to what is happening with the approach of justices in the court. Most of the last century the Court Despite the fact the majority of the nominees were by republican president s the court was very liberal giving the left and in many cases the media and a lot of the members of congress were giving them what they wanted there was no reason to complain and make the political attacks on the court. That shifted after justice kolya was confirmed with the judge and when suddenly we will confirm everyone the political process they didnt want somebody like bork who is going to be an originalist and pushback in the growth of a legible list in the justices who say were docketed do what do you say is politically advisable we have to look at the text of the constitution that threatened the left and thats why we see them pushing back first in judicial nomination and making that a political football but now also in the ethic challenges that are smear attempts we sell it with a thomas then kavanaugh ad now smears to the city justice as well as an attempt to attack and control a court that they cannot control any other way. We saw with Magill Estrada and that was not even a Supreme Court nomination that was an Appellate Court. Carrie severino thank you for loaning us your expertise. I have a suspicion the court is good to be in the news a lot. Thank you for joining us On A Sunday Night. Thank you. Trey one Credit Agency downgraded the u. S. Readings siding governance issues. The stock market reacted to the downgrade about like you would imagine not well does the u. S. Credit rating even matter . Kevin oleary is the chairman of oleary ventures and investor himself. He joins u meet the portable blender we can barely keep in stock. Blendjet 2 gives you icecrushing, big blender power onthego. So you can blend up a mouthwatering smoothie, protein shake, or latte wherever you are recharge quickly with any usb port. Best of all, it even cleans itself just blend water with a drop of soap. What are you waiting for . Order yours now from blendjet. Com before they sell out again with dexcom g7, managing your diabetes just got easier. So ah, whats your Glucose Number right now . Good thing you dont need to fingerstick. Hows all that food affect your glucose . Oh, the answers on your phone. What if youre heading low at night . 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She had a concussion. Admitting i was wrong is worse than losing at pickleball. Saving your brain is a definite win. Dont mess with your melon. If you hit it, get it checked. Regarding his action on january 6, pence, is not planning, but says he will if legally obligated, it wouldnt be the first time. Pence testified in april after being subpoenaed and trump pleaded not guilty to charges. Im marianne, now back to Sunday Night In America. Trey welcome back to Sunday Night In America, the fitch downgraded the u. S. Debt rating from aaa to aa plus, sounds pretty good to me the news met with stiff resistance after all its only the second time this is ever happened so why and why now. Fitch says the downgrade is due to a steady decline in fiscal matters and what it calls governance issues but the u. S. Has had a debt problem for quite some time and there have been shutdowns and rumors of shutdowns for decades now. , why now . Joining us now to weigh in on this radiance impact and what it means to you and the investor of oleary ventures, mr. Kevin oleary, welcome how big of a deal is a downgrade. Is impossible to paint this with a positive brush, it is a big deal because anytime you have a Rating Agency downgrade your economy its everything its a u. S. Dollar, the treasury bill, the faith of the u. S. Government to repay its bills. When we go to market around the world to issue debt to finance deficit of government there is less confidence. There is no other way to put it, if it downgrades again from aa to singlea that means it gets worse and if ever they would pay her bills in default on them thats when its all over were so far from that but its beginning of the crooks in that faith that you have to be concerned about. Trey i remember in a previous life sleeping on a couch in an Office Building on the capital missing holidays because we were in the throes of a shutdown. Thats what i wanted to downgrade our Credit Worthiness when i started missing holidays but we did not do it then. Why now why was 25 trillion in debt okay but will we get close to 30 now its gotta be downgraded. Its because of the percentage of gdp Government Shutdowns have nothing to do with credit ratings. Its more about politicians beating each other up to get concessions on their bills and thats been going on forever. Everybody knows in the last hour because they seen the movie so many times before theyre going to come to some resolution thats happened over and over and over again in the will happen again. Whatever the last hour is near accurate loosely politicians will come out off the hill saying we saved and we figured it out. That is all most a boring dance at this point, this is something different, its an aggregate the amount of debt the u. S. Government is borrowing versus its propensity to be able to pay it back again the way that you want to watch the canary in the coal mine is simply to look at the long bond. Anything longduration on treasuries, if rates start to creep up there that is faith eroding. You have to pay more to convince people outside of the United States and other foreign governments including china for that matter to pay more interest and take the risk of financing u. S. Deficits. Thats where theres a lot of people like me getting concerned. Whatever you say no matter how you put it or if you ignore it you cant say this is good news. There is no good news here, 0 because somebody out there is saying wait a second used to be triple, now it is double, what is next. Trey i want to end with a little bit of good news, the stock market seem to be rallying a little bit the first six or seven months of this year and after the ratings downgrade came the market had a couple of iffy days. You think the market will continue to do well for the duration of the year or is the fitch rating going to attack peoples enthusiasm. It is a bit of a damper but the s p 500 has done so well if you look at the governmentfunded over the next 30 months by the ira, the Inflation Reduction Act in the chips act, you billions of dollars not yet printed in the only target for all of that money is not mainstream and America At S P 500 if youre in s p 500 company are to be flushed with cash for the next three years because the government is printing like crazy for you. Regardless of sector but if youre small guy in des moines, iowa or champaign or bana you have big problems because the car that you used to pay 5 is now sitting between seven, eight, 9 were eventempered on aaa credit. Never really big problem starting to emerge in the Mainstream America which is Small Business which represents 60 of the economy, 40 of the jobs in America S P 500 but the real economy is mom and paw firstgeneration and secondgeneration Family Businesses were 60 of jobs are created and theyve got big issues on the cost of capital they cant even get loans because regional banks are under pressure to stop lending, this is all coming to a theater near you this fall. Im sure people on the hill will start focusing on that right after they get back from the recess. Trey mr. Kevin oleary remarkably good understanding of the way washington worked buddies way too smart to go serve up on the hill. Thank you for joining us On A Sunday Night and loaning us your expertise. Thank you, i appreciate it. Trey up next Artificial Intelligence has been in the news a lot lately, threats that robots would take over the world or take our jobs. Is there a plus sign, Fox News Contributor doctor Nicole Saphier joins us next on Sunday Night In America. If i could be you and you could be me for just one hour if we could find a way to get inside each others mind if you could see you through my eyes instead of your ego i believe youd be surprised to see that youve been blind Walk A Mile In My Shoes Walk A Mile In My Shoes yeah before you abuse, criticize and accuse Walk A Mile In My Shoes Walk A Mile In My Shoes well before you abuse, criticize and accuse Walk A Mile In My Shoes daughter is this with the doctor, or is this with the Nurse Practitioner . Fantastic. Dad, lunch ive got some soup for you. You are loved. Aw, look at those freckles you are valued. You are strong. You are resilient. You got this. Announcer find free care guides to support you and your loved one at aarp. Org caregiving every business thats why Comcast Business De is launching theal. Mobile made free event. With our business internet, new and existing customers can get one year of unlimited mobile for free. Its our best internet. Powered by The Next Generation 10g network and with 99. 9 reliability. Plus one line of free mobile for an entire year. Its the mobile made free eventhappening now. Get started for just 49. 99 a month. Plus, ask how to get one free line of unlimited mobile. Comcast business, powering possibilities. Trey welcome back to Sunday Night In America. A. I. Is all the rage i saw my wife read a story about robot that looks like Matthew Mcconnaughhay and does what you tell them to do the first time that you ask but there are also scary stories about Artificial Intelligence taking over the world and taking our jobs. Technology to me is benign. What we do with the technology can be good or it can be not good. The good side a. I. Is helping doctors diagnose Breast Cancer and improving the rates of diagnoses by 20 and cutting the tie, radiologist spend looking at mammograms. What innate women will develop Breast Cancer when diagnosed correctly there is a very good chance of survival joining us Fox News Contributor and Board Certified radiologist and someone who will never be replaced by a robot doctor Nicole Saphier, welcome, this is your field of expertise in your specialty, tell us how a. I. Is helping you and your practice. As a radiologist specifically abreast radiologist i rely on Technology Every single day to do what i do and the good news we have advances in technology from our standard mammograms, 3d Mammograms and so much more sense a bit of practice and now we use Computer Detection as well as a. I. Algorithm to find more cancers. In my opinion my entire goal is to find cancer at the earliest possible stage in the earliest to treat anything that will help me find more i am a huge support for the study that you referenced came out of sweden and looked to 80000 mammograms on women over a years time and what it showed whether you have humans alone, radiologist at myself with a radiologist plus a. I. And how do they compare in with a radiologist plus a. I. They found more cancers it was not a massively increased amount of cancers but they found more cancers. When you get into the weeds of the study a little bit, some of the cancers that they found were more Insight Cancers which is a huge argument with Breast Imaging are we calling and over diagnosis insight to cancer because some believe they may never turn into an invasive cancer and really cause harm so you have to be careful with some of that with diagnoses and interestingly and the radiologist alone group they found more of invasive cancers than the radiologist plus a. I. And invasives are the ones that we worry about that can metastasize and wreak havoc in the body. Another negative about the human plus a. I. Group they had more recalls meeting a woman gets her mammogram and then she gets a letter saying something is wrong you have to come back and then it turned out to be absolutely nothing but that cause a lot of anxiety and women. To the imperfect system and a. I. Will not be replacing radiologist anytime soon but were on the right track and as long as a. I. Is used in conjunction thats whats going to be best for patients. Trey you put your finger on it, i have a lot of friends who happen to be Medical Doctors, maybe it was a decade or so talking about Robotic Surgery and whether robots would take the place of surgeons. I dont think that is happened yet. I think you need a doctor guiding the robot. Is there any real sense to a fear that at some point the machines were the robot or the technology will supplant the need to have an actual real Medical Doctor on the other side of the table from a patient . I cant really say what the future holds i could tell you were a long way off and there is a thing as Robotic Surgery, i do robotic biopsies every single day where were im using Lysing Technology to localize the region but im guiding the robot and say with a Robotic Surgery we are guiding that and is not onesizefitsall when it comes to patients, you have to have a human mind to be able to change when things are necessary is it possible in the future, maybe a long way off i feel comfortable with job security and anyone going through Medical School i would say you have a lot of job security. Trey doctor Nicole Saphier, an expert in the field, thank you for joining us. Trey up next, a glimmer of hope, a ray of light a lifeline in the ocean of sadness, College Football is a month away and Training Camp has begun all across the country. Fox news contributor jim gra ah, these bills are crazy. She has no idea shes sitting on a goldmine. 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So easy to use, you can manage your diabetes with confidence. Welcome back to Sunday Night In America, College Football is gearing up with august Training Camps starting this week for most teams, hope strings eternal. Last year, tcu shock the country before this it was cincinnati. Will there be a cinderella this year. Are days of big 10, big 12, and pac12 over, right now it is a pack 6 out west. Joining us now Fox News Contributor mr. Jim gray. Welcome, good news, College Football in the air, what are you looking for early . Well, were probably looking for someone we dont expect, we know who we are expecting and wholl rise up is impossible to say. No one would have said cincinnati or tcu or others. I dont know. Anyone who tells you they do know, trey, they are lying, paper says one thing are we go with michigan, ohio state, georgia, alabama, penn state on the rise, they look like preseason favorites. Usually those teams win out. That has been history so far recently. I am not going to tell someone who knows more about sports than i, what will happen. I will tell you what i hope happens. Which is by beloved South Carolina gamecocks have a good year, i am a big fan of shane beamer. I want to ask you about another school from my state, clemson. Historically a powerhouse. Maybe again this year . They would be highly coff elsed, i would think by other conferences. Is the Acc Hanging On To Clemson and florida state, it sounds tenuous right now. Yeah, there is so much in the news and so much shuffling, nobody knows who is in the deck any more and where they are going, colorado is jumping back to the big 12, big 8 roots, they leave pac12, the pac pac12 looks to be in disarray with the media deal that come with with apple is like a payperview deal, they get paid, not too dissimilar to fighters in boxing. That puts all of thes institutions in a difficult position, they dont know how to budget for this, they have been expecting huge numbers that have come in for other conferences you look at this billion to the big ten. Dispersed by fox. Cbs, and espn, now espn pulling back on some of the rights fees and everyone pouring their money into the nfl Going Forward in big nba contract, it say mess, College Football. You know it will be very few of these conferences that will survive, everyone else will be extras. I am worried about what used to be the pac12, it just sounds like it will be down to 3 or 4 schools, thank you for joining us On A Sunday Night, i electric forward to hearing your insight on all natters, mr. Jim gray, thank you. Trey, thank you. Let me say thank you to you, until next week, you can find us on line or on the trey gowdy pod cost. Thank you Katie Pavlich for filling in last week, you are fantastic as always, good night from South Carolina carley a fox news alert, families of 13 u. S. Service members killed during the withdrawal from afghanistan will Come Together And Testify For The First Time today. We have everything about the hearing ahead. And sending four destroyers to monitor those operating near alaska. Lawmakers warn there is still a lot we dont know. The ccp continued espio

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