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Bret, good evening to you. Donald trumps closest advisers are spinning this indictment to advantage. Meanwhile his former number two, former Vice President mike pence who refused to overturn the results of the election is in attack mode. Former Vice President mike pence running against his old boss is coming out swinging. It wasnt just they asked for a pause. The president specifically asked me and his gaggle of crackpot lawyers asked me to literally reject votes and literally coas would have ensued. Indictment pence allegedly told trump he had no authority to do so, according to the indictment, in response, the defendant told the Vice President youre too honest. Trump is staying positive at least publicly. Posting on social media hours ago thank you to everyone. I have never had so much support on anything before. The 45page indictment lays out an overarching theme. The defendant lost the 2020 president ial election despite having lost the defendant was determined to remain in power. Trumps team says the case is about constitutional protection. You have the right to have free speech and say that you are questioning things that you believe are not right. But Special Counsel jack smith says the case cannot about free speech. Its about efforts the former president took to try to overturn an election. The indictment cites unnamed Trump Campaign adviser who wrote in email to other staffers dispelling allegations of mass voter fraud. He wrote, quote ill obviously hustle to help on all fronts its tough to own any of this when its all just conspiracy blank beamed down from the mothership. The indictment also cites six unnamed, unindicted coconspirator. A lawyer for attorney john eastman tells fox news He Believes East Man is coconspirator number two. Bless, bret, Special Counsel hoo take it to trial bret another case what can you tell us about the hunter biden plea deal. The plea deal fell through one week ago today. The judge Maryellen Noreika put the plea deal on the docket. Its over 10 pages long i want to show you this here. Christopher clark is Hunter Bidens attorney. He signed it. Hunter biden signed it. Also someone from david weiss, the Prosecutors Office signed it. There is a big blank here. This is where the federal judge would have signed the plea deal if it went through. She decided not to do it. She decided not to be a rubber stamp. She told both sides to go back to the drawing board. We expect to see some updated agreement by the end of this month in a few weeks, bret. Bret david spunt at the Justice Department. Thank you. You are welcome. Bret lawmakers reacting to the indictment and what could come next. Correspondent Aishah Hasnie has that part of the story from capitol hill. Tonight, Republican Fire Brands matt gaetz and Marjorie Taylor green renewing their calls to defund Special Counsel jack smiths Investigations Into Former President Trump. Green eyeing the upcoming appropriations process Gaetz Retweeting a previous call to take up this bill. They are attacking our democracy and engaging in Election Interference right now. Any such measure would likely fail in a democrat controlled senate. Now, both parties are watching what House Judiciary chairman jim jordan does next. A judiciary spokesperson tells Fox Everything is on the table. Including Calling Smith to testify. Republicans taking particular issue with the timing of the incident one day after former hunter Biden Associate devon archers testimony. Congratulations, mr. President. And the conspiracy to defraud charge over trump disputing the 2020 election results. Republicans pointing to democrats who challenged the outcome of the 2016 election. Mr. President , i object to the certificate from the state of alabama. And those who oppose certifying the results. Mr. President , i object because people are horrified. Still, none urged their supporters to march on the capitol. Were going to walk down to the capitol. January 6th Committee Member jamie raskin is comfortable that the doj wound up not charging trump with inciting a riot. I can understand why they shied away from the counts the statute has not been tried very much. Bret, tonight, sources tell me even if the Judiciary Committee were to subpoena jack mitt to come here and testify, they doubt that they would actually show up because this investigation is still ongoing. In the meantime, though, attorney general Merrick Garland is slated to appear before the committee next month. Be watching it. Bret . Bret Aishah Hasnie live on capitol hill. Thank you. President biden, meantime, has not yet commented on the latest Trump Indictment while the president enjoys another week long vacation at rehoboth beach, delaware the u. S. Economy has suffered a major black mark. The u. S. Credit rating has been downgraded. Treasury Officials Say the u. S. Economy is still strong but no longer at the highest level. Correspondent Mark Meredith is near the president s Vacation Home in delaware tonight. Mr. President , are you concerned about the downgrade . President biden ignored questions about the u. S. Economy one day after Fitch Ratings down graded americas credit. The Credit Rating agency says the change comes ahead of, quote, expected fiscal deterioration over the next three years and repeated Debt Limit Standoffs and lastminute resolution. Treasury secretary janet yellen today blasted the move. This decision is puzzling in light of the economic strength we see in the United States i strongly disagree with fitchs decision and i believe its entirelily unwarranted. The Election Campaign in Damage Control mode insisting republicans including former President Trump are responsible. A Campaign Spokesperson writing this trump downgrade is a direct result of an extreme maga republican agenda defined by chaos, callousness and recklessness that americans continue to reject. The Trump Campaign fired right back writing biden is now desperately lying to the American Public because they have no excuse for all the misery and destruction they have caused. Former Vice President mike pence also rejected the idea republicans are to blame. They havent downgraded our Credit Rating since 2011 which happened to be the time when joe biden was Vice President. Critics argue President Bidens spending including last years Inflation Reduction Act have forced economists hands. Really this downgrade is about debt and the ability to pay it back. Downgrade may also spark new consumer concerns. A new York Timessiena College poll finding only 20 of measures rank the economy as either an excellent or good shape. While the president is keeping a low profile on Beach Vacation he is going to be on the road next week about the economy. Is he due to make multistate trip out west and expected to talk about bidenomics. We dont know whether the downgrade may force the president to talk about the downgrade in a different way. Bret wall street took a hit today after the Credit Rating news. The dow fell 348. The s p 500 was off 63. The nasdaq lost 310 today. We have new information tonight about facebooks effort to suppress information about the covid19 vaccine. Vox Business Correspondent Hillary Vaughn has the story from capitol hill. For how long has the administration been spying on peoples facebook profiles looking for Vaccine Misinformation . That was quite a loaded and inaccurate question. Facebook and any private Sector Company makes decisions about what information should be on their platform. But internal communications between the white house and facebook employees obtained by Fox Business Show Behind Closed Doors white house officials were trying to have a lot more influence and get a lot more information from facebook. White house officials asked for access to tools off limits to Government Agencies to target vaccine hesitant users. In a conversation about users worried about vaccine side effects, white house Official Rob Flaherty asked facebook employees, quote if people are having the conversation its the presumption that we let people have it, direct them to cdc . What then . A facebook employee warned if they were to intervene it could make people think that facebook is listening to them and have a big brother feel. Biden officials also grilled facebook employees for not handing over more data saying, quote some partners tell us to f right off. This feels like we are chasing our tails. If you dont want to give information, just say that facebook also cracked down on covid content that didnt promote a Covid Vaccine narrative. On a call between facebook and the Surgeon Generals office, facebook employees said post questioning whether you should get a vaccine whether its Government Overreach we demote those. Its not false information but it leads to vaccine negative environment. The white house even appearing to mock some americans. A biden staffer telling facebook employees, quote if someone in rural arkansas sees something on facebook, its the truth. We reached out to the white house for comment and have not heard back. Met tax facebooks Parent Company declined to comment. Bret . Bret hillary, thank you. Up next, a major focus on increasingly troubling healthcare issue in this country it. May effect you and your loved ones. We will tell what you it is and whats being done about it. Heres what Fox Affiliates are covering tonight. Fox 453 in pittsburgh Death Sentence for the gunman who stormed synagogue in the heart of the Jewish Community killing 11 worshipers there. Robert bowers spewed hatred of views, espoused White Supremacist on online before plotting and carrying out the massacre at the tree of life massacre. Fox 5 in new york as prosecutors turn over a massive amount of evidence against the accused gilgo beach serial killer. Rex heuermann made his First Court Appearance yesterday. His initial not guilty plea since his initial plea he is accused of three murders and the Prime Suspect in a fourth. And this is a live look at cleveland. One of the big stories there tonight from fox 8, our affiliate. Area children form a 3mile long human chain stretching across downtown cant. Kids participating in a series of nfl Play Football Events taking place throughout hall of fame week. The annual game takes place tomorrow. Features the New York Jets against the cleveland browns. Here comes nfl season. 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The second such probe concerning new jersey democratic senator bob menendez in less than a decade. The current inquiriy concerns whether the senator or his wife received undisclosed gifts in exchange for political favors. There are increasing concerns tonight about the Health Implications of something Many Americans deal with every day, loneliness. Congressional lawmakers are looking at what they can do to make things better. Here is senior Congressional Correspondent chad pergram. Loneliness emerging as a National Health crisis. We need to address prevention and the root cause of the pain and trauma that a lot of people are feeling like the loneliness and isolation. Doctors say chronic loneliness poses same physical health risk as Smoking Cigarettes every day. Isolation has been shown continue to crease the risk for premature death by 26 . Loneliness leading to a spike in diabetes, stroke, heart disease, dementia, to say nothing of emotional wellbeing. When the federal government locked down our children and adults as well, it led to an explosion of Mental Health problems. Doctors say covid exacerbated loneliness but loneliness was on the rise bflt pandemic. It also shows that simply getting back to normal is not going to be enough. Surgeon general vivek murthy characterized as epidemic an initial declaration. Social connection is as fundamental to food, water and sleep. Murthys move caught the attention of lawmakers. The Surgeon Generals report is alarming, isolation is not good. Its not healthy. Democratic connecticut senator chris murphy offered a bill to combat loneliness and boost social connections. I actually think decisions by government that have left a lot of people feeling very disconnected. Mu murt murphy wants a federl office to. Increases as Church Attendance wanes and social media usage grows. Our decision to leave social media unregulated to leave kids unprotected has really been a disaster. Nearly a third of all americans live alone, doctors believe that contributes to isolation. Bret . Bret hey, chad, another issue. There is a Security Care at the capitol today. Tell us about that. Well, Capitol Police had a report of an active shooter in the Hart Senate Office building. They searched for a heavy set man with body armor. They evacuated all three senate buildings. There was never a report of gunfire and they never found anyone. Bret . Bret all right, chad, thank you. More than 70,000 afghans evacuated to the u. S. Are still without legal status tonight. This was despite two years of promises from lawmakers, both sides of the aisle, and the government that their cases would be fasttracked. Chief National Security correspondent Jennifer Griffin tells us why tonight. They are left in legal limbo and the strain is taking a serious toll, afghans like this man who served alongside u. S. Special forces risking her life to help americans. She commanded 43 Afghan Female Commandos trained and vetted by the u. S. Military. 30 were evacuated by the Women Soldiers they served alongside for 10 years. Only 12 have received asylum. The others are working at fast food restaurants, even though they want to join the u. S. Military and continue serving. They recently visited the pentagon the u. S. Army facing a shortage wants to enlist them but cant because they dont yet have green cards. Because of these problems, we cannot focus on anything because we dont have permit. The employer doesnt give us a better job because we dont have permanent status here. The Afghan Adjustment Act got removed from the Defense Authorization act last week and now republicans, like senator tom cotton, Lindsey Graham and thom tillis are trying to negotiate with democrats like senator amy klobuchar, chris coons, and Jeanne Shaheen to find a solution. Senator cotton introduced an alternate bill. I feel like the Afghanistan Adjustment Act is caught in to the domestic politics of two parties. Both parties have good intentions here we are to have to make decisions about the lives of more than 60,000 afghans who live in the u. S. And they want to have a Brighter Future and be like everyone else. Senator cottons bill focuses on more security vetting. But the 43 members of the Afghan Female Tactical Platoon have already been vetted over and over by the u. S. Government. Bret . Bret Jennifer Griffin at the pentagon. Thank you. Russian forces launched large scale Drone Strikes against kyiv overnight. They say all 10 drones fired at the capital city were intercepted. Debris from the drones hit three districts of kyiv damaging a nonresidential building there. Up next, we talk with republican president ial candidate Vivek Ramaswamy about his campaign and the effect of the latest Trump Indictment. First, beyond our borders tonight. Chinas capital reports heaviest rainfall in 140 years. The remnants of a typhoon have deluged beijing with 30 inches of rain since saturday that has resulted in severe flooding and power loss. That storm is responsible for at least 21 deaths so far. Four nationals line up outside an airport in nigers capital to wait for a french evacuation flight. This comes after the Military Coup there. France, italy and spain have announced evacuations for their citizens and europeans in the capital city of niger. This is a live look at port call. Pope francis challenges europe to retake its role as a peacemaker and bridge builder. The pope arrived in portugal today. He opened World Youth Day hoping concontinue to inspire the next generation of catholics to combat Climate Change and other problems facing the world. 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Bret in person. See you all the time on the tv. Good to see you. Bret you said that Oppo Research is something you dont like. Opposition research. You have seen it already in the campaign. Reporters asking questions they are kind of fed. You have to form clear contrast with your opponents. So lets do that why would someone choose you, specifically over your top two opponents, former President Trump and Governor Ron Desantis . So, i think im, bret, the only candidate who can actually unite this country and deliver a Ronald Reagan 1980s style landslide election. Im the candidate who is not just running from something. Im leading us to run to something. To our vision of what it means to be an american. Thats bringing young people along with us in droves in this campaign. I am the youngest person ever to run in the republican party. But i think its more than just my age. I think its about having i see the problems that we see in the country but i still believe we are on our way up. And we see that in the data where 40 of the donors to our campaign, actually, are firsttime ever donors to the g. O. P. In any form compared to 2 for normal candidates. I do think its important that we deliver a landslide. Not a 50. 1 electoral march diswrin this time around and i think im the only candidate in a position to do. You dont think former President Trump or ron desantis could have that impact on the race. Either of them can beat joe biden. I want to be honest about that. I think many republicans can. I think im the only one who can actually deliver a landslide like reagan did in 80s. Bret you came to the defense of former president this week. Yes. Bret this is about First Principles what you have seen is akin to Banana Republic tactics to take out a political opponent. Thats right. I have read each of the indictments before i formed my judgment. But i believe each of these indictments, bret, reek of politicization. Im now polling third in the republican primary. It would be very easy for me if donald trump were eliminated from competition. That is not how i want to win this race. I want to win by convincing the voters to vote for me because we, the people determine who leads the country. Thats the american way, not the federal police state eliminating the competition. You read the indictment about january 6th and what the president did or did not do there. After the events of january 6th, 2021, you sounded different. You wrote in your book this. Quote it was a dark day for democracy the loser of the last elections refused to concede the race. Lost hundreds of millions of dollars from supporters and running for office again. Six days later you tweeted this what trump did last week was wrong, down right abhorrent, plain and simple. I have said so before and did i so in my piece. Did anything change from that time to this time . No, actually. In that piece, the piece i was referring to was a piece i wrote in the Wall Street Journal days after january 6th, 2021 where i argued that the real cause was systematic pervasive censorship by the government coopting social Media Companies to silence content. So what i said yesterday is the same thing as i said before. Theres a difference between a bad judgment and a crime. Would i have made the same judgments that trump made . Absolutely not. Im running in this election for a reason. But thats not the same thing as a crime. And my Rule Of Thumb is if you are going to bring a case during an election, against a prior u. S. President , it better darn well not be an untested legal theory that was made up on the fly. Thats exactly what we have seen now in three out of three indictments. And i just think it is wrong and sets a dangerous precedent in this country. Bret there are a lot of republicans who think like you do, and they see the former president , this prison term as a sympathetic character. Thats how they talk about it. I guess what im saying is, are you holding back going head to head with the former president in any way in this primary as opposed to how you talked about him back then . Im not afraid of drawing contrast with anybody and drawing differences in policy or opinions. Im not in this race to attack anybody. I personally think donald trump was an excellent president. I think that his defeat of Hillary Clinton in 2016 was probably the single most important political event in the 21st century in this country. But i believe i am better positioned to take the America First agenda even further than trump did. I think its a fact, bret. We have to admit it. I dont blame trump or anybody else for this. 30 of this country becomes psychiatrically ill when he is in the white house. Im not yet having that effect on people even when im advancing the same policies, in some instances going even further. Thats how we unite this country. I think its not by Compromising On Our prince tell pells. Its by being uncompromising who we are but doing it based on moral foundations and not vengeance and grievance. Thats the way i will lead. Bret politically, what im saying is that the former president could go up because of this indictment as we have seen in previous indictments. Not only in fundraising but in the polls. So how do you fight that in this primary as he is getting all the oxygen in the room during these times . Look, i look forward to the debate stage. I think this is going to be a great opportunity to introduce myself to the country. Bret do you think he will show up . I dont expect him i take him at his word. I think its unlikely he shows up based on his public comments. I also think as long as he shows up at some point in the process, im fine with that i started at 0. 0 in march. Im polling at third ahead of the first primary, i think we are on our way to win this primary and, more importantly, to win this general election in a landslide bringing youngs people and new people into the g. O. P. Along with us. Thats what we are already doing. Bret you wrote a book about woke. Yes. Bret you kind of really illuminated the issue before it became popular to do so. A New York Timessiena poll this week asked which of these republicans would you be more likely to support in a Republic Primary a candidate focuses on beating 24 . A candidate who focuses on restoring Law And Order streets and border 65 . Polls are polls. You can read them however you want to read them. Do you think that there is and governor desantis, i asked him about in this week, too much focus on this . Do you think that its enough . How do you balance that out in policy . So, look, i wrote the book On Wokeness In America before many republicans even knew what this word was. But what i have said since day one of this campaign is that wokeism, like so many of the other risms, climatism, transgenderism they are symptoms of a deeper void. A void of purpose, meaning and identity so, yes, i think fixating on the symptom too much may cause us to police the plot. The real void is a void of what it means to be an american today. Thats the void im looking to fill. I think the way we defeat wokeness is not with a hammer. It is by diluting it to irrelevant by feel the vacuum of pursuance in this country with a vision of what it means to be a citizen of this nation. Thats my approach in the campaign and i think its a little bit different than some of the other candidates. Bret i want to ask you about something you said in an interview the past day or so. Take a listen. I dont believe the government has told us the truth. Again, im driven by evidence and data. What i have seen in the last several years is we have to be skeptic of what the government does tell us. I havent seen evidence to the contrary but do i believe everything the government told us about it . Absolutely not. To be fair, you were asked if 9 11 was an inside job. And you tweeted out to, i believe, our government has been completely forthright about 9 11. No alqaeda completely we never fully addressed who knew what in the saudi government about it. We can handle the truth. Do you believe 9 11 was an inside job . I dont. But i do believe. Bret you dont know the saudis role . Exactly right and i dont think we have ever gotten straight answers about that. Bret republicans criticizing the Biden Administration for their policy towards saudi arabia and you are going to talk about Foreign Policy. Do you think its the right thing to go down there kind of asking questions about this on a Foreign Policy perspective, diplomacy wise in this venue . So, bret, i come at it from the perspective of demanding truth from the government overall. I think that is a top issue right now. The truth about how our money is actually being spent in ukraine. The truth about the shooters Manifesto In Nashville where i was earlier today. A government that pledged to release that manifesto but which has not. The truth about the covid19 lab origin. So, for me, im not actually this is the first time i actually talked about the 9 11 issue. Bret you were asked about it to be fair. I was asked about it directly. This is part of the broader spirit of this campaign is we live in a moment where the government tells us we cant handle the truth. Actually, i believe we, the people in country, we handle the truth. And we live in a moment where we demand the truth. Thats why we fought an American Revolution to say that we, the people, determine how our government governs and theyre accountable to us. Not the other way around. And that rejects the Old World Vision that it is a small group of elites that decide behind the palace hall what is is right for everybody at large. Thats a fundamental theme for this campaign it shows up many ways. Bret do you think joe biden is to be the democratic nominee. I expect to be the republican nominee i do not expect him to be the democratic nominee i dont expect to have them run against me. Bret setting up multiple committees that in their first three months have raised and spent millions of dollars. He said he has no desire to be the nominee but you dont think biden is going to be it . I dont think that biden is going to be the nominee unless trump is. But i expect to be the republican nominee and i am preparing to face off against someone other than joe biden. I think gavin newsom is pretty likely. Bret people are learning a lot more about you. You have a young family. A surgeon wife. Yes. How old are your kids. My older son 3 and a half and younger son just turned 1 on july 5. Bret congratulations you have a long way to governmental we are grateful for what has been given to us and now want to pass this onto the next generation. Thats why im on the race. Bret see you on the stage august 23rd thanks, bret. Bret thanks, vivek. What the u. S. Credit rating downgrade could mean for bidenomics. Car insurance. So you only pay for what you need. Thats my boy. Now you get out there, and you make us proud, huh . Bye, uncle limu. Stay off the freeways only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Trying vapes to quit smoking might feel like progress, but with 3x more nicotine than a pack of cigarettes vapes Increase Cravings trapping you in an endless craving loop. Nicorette reduces cravings until theyre gone for good. Mlb chooses tmobile for business for 5g solutions. To not only enhance the fan experience, but to advance how the game is played. 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Former Vice President mike pence is on the trail in indiana saying our country is more important than one man. Our constitution is more important than any one mans career. On january 6th, former entrepreneurship demand demanded that i choose between him and the constitution. I chose the constitution and i always will. Lets bring in our panel. Ben domenech editoratlarge for the spectator. Host of the ben domenech podcast on fox news radio. Vince coglianese in this case Talk Radio Host Editorial Director for the daily caller and axios political reporter stef kight. All right, vince, lets start with you. A day to digest, see the fallout. Democrats, republicans, pundits. Where are you . This is the prosecution and persecution of the leading candidate for president against joe biden. I think we have a Justice Department with a massive credibility crisis on its hands. Voters fundamentally do not trust this institution. They have routinely gone after trump through the years in the form of the fbirussia collusion hoax and, of course now all of these prosecutions. And i think what voters are seeing now is that theres an effort to meddle in the election going on right in front of our very eyes and the Justice Department. Hosts on the left wing network puzzled by the timing of all of this. They said this should have happened a year ago when the January 6th Committee rendered its judgments. They are wondering why it took so long. I will tell you why. Entering the heat of the election and no coincidence whatsoever. Bret stef, republicans are pointing to this statement by President Biden on november of 2022. We just have to demonstrate to that he will not take power by if he does run, making sure he under legitimate efforts of our constitution does not become the next president again. Bret asked about donald trump running again. Democrats, supporters of this sweeping indictment say this is about protecting the country. Right. I think we are going to continue to see republicans and democrats kind of have their own spin on this. Of course, republicans are really focused on this First Amendment issue saying that, you know, trump can say whatever he wants. Thats not necessarily illegal to say things that are false. But if you really look at the indictment and dig into what is being argued here, you see prosecutors really pushing this idea that its not just about whether or not the things trump said about the 2020 election were false but that he knew they were false and continued to say those things in an effort to persuade and put pressure on people at various places and power to change those election results. So you are seeing kind of like a response to that First Amendment argument from the indictment itself saying no, it goes beyond just saying things that might be false. Thats not what that is at issue here. Bret one person that made that last night is ben who talked about the First Amendment last night. Why is it that we go to these big moments and we, as a country go to our sides and look through two different prisms at two different diametrically opposed things . If this were less serious, i would be entertained by the idea that an indictment of this nature would require one to enter the mind of one donald trump to understand all of its workings, machinations and what he believed in certain moments. That is certainly something that im not capable of. Perhaps these lawyers are. But my own perspective on this is that we are going down a very dangerous road. We have seen in past elections, you know, many people who are on the losing side raise concerns about it. In ways that even, you know, rose to the level of different members of congress refusing to accept the results that came from different states, particularly ohio in 2004 that reaction to the 2000 election. Even in 2016 where we saw major figures going out there, including hosts on other networks begging the electors who choose differently than they were legally required to do so. I do not think that this is a healthy thing for a nation to do. I think it goes against everything that we understand about Freedom Of Speech and ultimately, this indictment is of a nature so much weaker than i think a lot of us expected that it really calls into Question Everything that the Department Of Justice is doing in ways that are only going to vindicate, to vinces point, a lot of people that do not believe its operating in the interest of the American People but that it is partisan in nature. Bret have you heard, vince, an effective pundit on the left who really supports this indictment make an effective argument on how it is structured . No. Because it seems like this is kind of what was always predestined. All of the left wing punditry we hear they always wanted trump arrested and he deserves it eventually we will get there somehow. They are kind of feeling their way through. I cant help but notice the calendar here. Every one of these indictments come down or superseding indictments from jack smith has always followed very bad news for joe biden. Whether it is the Bribery Allegation contained in the fbis fd 1023 day. Next day the maralago indictments dropped or, perhaps, its the collapse of the plea deal for hunter biden in that courtroom, the next day the superseding indictment is dropped. And then this week we get devon archers testimony about hunter biden and the biden familys finances, the next day you get the january 6th case. Its always the next day and i think people look at that and say that cant be a coincidence. Bret bret. We have already seen trump supporters, republicans in the house, especially, really zero in on the Department Of Justice as a place where they can kind of respond to some of these investigations, they have already threatened to cut funding for the Department Of Justice, for the fbi in particular. Especially for Special Counsel jack smith. We will continue to see those efforts pick up there. Beyond that, they can only do so much. They have issued their statements, they will continue to push this idea of a twotiered system of justice. This fits right into that narrative they have been building over the past several years that the Department Department is biased against President Trump. Bret they will keep going down the hunter biden road. Exactly. Bret panel, stand by if you would. Up next what the Credit Rating downgrade may mean for the u. S. Economy. And, later, an historic throwback. Like a smart coffee grinder, that orders fresh beans for you. 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The more the government goes into deficit spending, the more Rating Agencies scrutinize the quality of that debt. And if you thought we got to the Point Of No Return where it was impossible to pay this debt back, you would rename the United States of america venezuela. The democrats just want more of the same spending. They are Thelma And Louise driving off the cliff pushing the gas taking us over that cliff and the American People are the ones suffering through higher inflation and higher mortgage rates. Bret mr. Wonderful with not wonderful news and congressman cline. Last minute resolutions have eroded confidence in management. Fitch does not expect any further substantive consolidation ahead of the November 2024 elections. Stef, the markets, it took a dive today. They really sold off based on, i guess this downgrade and then the forward look of what did means. What do we think it means . Well, i mean one thing politically it means is that the economy is going to be a big issue once again in 2024 and we are already seeing, of course, fingers being pointed in the both direction the white house very quickly issuing a statement kind of saying that this was all republicans fault. Bret specifically the former president which is kind of crazy. Its been a few years since he was in office. They are still pointing to some of thinks policies and his decisions saying that this has had an impact on this decision. Isnt that amazing two and a half years after joe biden comes into office now its the trump downgrade like trump had orchestrated this two and a half years later that it would hit right in the middle of the election. I think what we should Pay Attention to here is what fitch said why they did this. They said the brinkmanship over the debt cereal was one of the reasons they downgraded the debt. Think about the debt ceiling fight. Republicans said lets keep spending at the same level last year. They put a bill forward. Biden rejected it. The reason it got this far is joe biden. Joe biden owns this. I have the long memory to remember when obama was talking about the bush economy far past the point where it was the bush economy. Bret always one fiscal cliff away. Panel, thanks so much. Pretty brett finally tonight, todays throwback on this day in 1776, members of Congress Officially signed the declaration of independence. The delegates meeting in the Pennsylvania State house later named Independence Hall to prove approve the final draft on july 4th. News of americas founding document arrived in london 8 days later on august 10th. Got a book coming out about all of this october 10th. You can check it out. To rescue the constitution. Thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. Thats it for this special report, fair, balanced and unafraid. We have had a busy week. And its only wednesday. The Ingraham Angle is next. Good night from washington. Laura hey, everyone im Laura Ingraham this is the Ingraham Angle from washington tonight. Coconspirator for john eastman says his client will never plead guilty in the january 6th indicates. Tonight he is here to tell us why. But, first, the real Election Meddlers thats the focus of tonights angle. This indictment it is cringey. This indictment reads like it was written by adam schiff himself. I cant tell you how facially ridiculous this claim is