interview in a moment. that is fascinating. right now we are in san salvador to compact a pretty place that is reined by dormant volcanoes. but unlike other countries in the region, this country el salvador not high-end beach resorts or tourist attractions along the coast. there has been very little foreign investment and there is a reason for that. for a long time el salvador has been a dangerous place in a few yours ranked the most by rent domain violent country in the world. ongoing fighting in the '80s with the brutal civil war and extending to the current battle against gangs like ms-13. if you are from long island, virginia, you know all about ms-13. you read the stories about human trafficking and beheadings. el salvador's most famous export with millions of low-wage workers. about a third of all self and dorians live in the united states, many illegally and many more appear to be comi. the reason the bite and administration has declared the violence in el salvador and other parts as a humanitarian crisis. that means the united states now has a moral obligation to fix and pay for that crisis. biden has ended so call save third country agreements the united states once had with guatemala, el salvador and honduras. migrants moving north without visas will no longer have to apply for asylum from the countries they come from here they can come directly to our country no questions asked. once in the u.s. they can qualify for free health care, free education and citizenship. they will not be deported and they know it. so simply by crossing an international border, a line on the map, these migrants move instantly from poverty to the unimaginable benefits of the welfare state, or country. so who wouldn't make that trip? huge numbers are up people are making that trip. in february last month customs and border protection agency found 100,000 people trying to enter the united states illegally and most appear to be from central america. a year ago for context that number was 34,000. there is no precedent for an increase like that over a month so they learned several people rested up the southern border on the fbi terrorist watch list. we also learned there are over 13,000 unaccompanied to my stomach migrant children in the detention center. that is more than tripled a record high end of the trump administration. just days ago we were told the total number was 4,000 migrant children in custody. so the numbers have been increasing exponentially since december, they seem likely to increase exponentially from here. one border facility and taxes, the situation is now 729% over g hurt by definition. is it an emergency? fema has been called in to help. just two months into the joe biden administration the border is officially a disaster. the administration is not denying this. they can't deny it. it's on tape. so instead they are telling us the tragedy they created is, in fact, a sign of hope here and watch. >> do you think it is coincident that trump an immigration policy on the way out and biden state of policy on the way in is a historic surge that the border started? >> surgeons tend to respond to hope. i don't know if i would call that a coincidence, but i certainly think the idea that a more humane policy would be in place. they have driven people to make that decision. >> tucker: surges tend to respond to hope, explains a reckless arrogant bureaucrat to teach genter's studies at a community college but instead has power. hope, whose hope exactly? is there anyone in our country in the united states who sincerely believes that we are seeing tonight on our border will improve our country? of course, no one believes that purity but it doesn't matter because the lies of actual americans mean nothing to the pe making these decisions. your happiness is not a consideration and it's never even discussed in washington. instead, the rest have a duty to fix problems in countries that we don't understand. problems that, by the way, absently caused by the united states but other colonial powers centuries ago. so if anyone has a legacy responsibility for what is happening in latin america and if anyone is ultimately responsible for latin american immigrants moving north, it is not the united states, its pain. maybe the spanish government could start by sending back the gold sitting in that central bank. where do you think that came from, el salvador might appreciate that. but roberta jacobson is not suggesting that has never occurred to her because the point is not to help the united states. in fact, the point is to punish the united states. an official in washington agrees with that purity surge of desperate illegal immigrants is what you get when you vote for the other party. that is the message. they are telling us the last president is responsible for all you are seeing right now. it is a pretty remarkable claim if you think about it, given the last president was elected president because everyone else in washington somehow thought it was racist to have international borders. they have no shame and they think you are stupid. here it is. >> what the administration has inherited is a broken system at the border. >> the 11 year high for crossings without documentation of the border was in the middle of truman's presidency. this idea that it is joe biden's election that has prompted more people to show up is belied by the actual facts. >> joe biden inherited a huge mess on immigration. >> what we are seeing today is a consequence of four years of dismantling every system in place to address this way of humanity and compassion. >> tucker: it is hard to believe you are hearing that. so let's repeat it slowly so you can get every word. what we are seeing today, the border crisis, is the consequence of four years of dismantling every system in place to address this with humanity and compassion. that was congresswoman veronica escobar of texas. so she is telling you the last administration is just too liberal in its border policy, those open border trump people. we are always warning us about that. that is why two months into a democratic administration holding facilities for illegal children is 700% capacity in her state. donald trump did that! please keep talking congresswoman and tell us how that all works. lecture us some more about humanity and compassion. these people. you've got to wonder if they think a single human being believes anything they say. they probably don't care. they certainly don't care about the country they are supposed to be in charge of peer that is the one obvious link. they have given up trying to pretend they are anyway making life better for american citizens. it is easier to yell at americans about making life better for the rest of the world. that is the appeal of it, it shifts the attention and alexandria ocasio-cortez can sound like a hero after offering to el salvador, someone never have a job giving away other people's money. and alexandria ocasio-cortez doesn't have to worry about the americans who live in queens, the people she is supposed to be if hired to represent and help. and who is she not worrying about though? ever been to her congressional districts? detroit, oakland, gary, indiana? these are the actual places that democrats run, the places they are supposed to be improving. but those plays have not improved, not in 50 years. they become much worse. the people do not pause to reflect on what they have done much less apologize for it. they move on. they headed to afghanistan, libya, syria were now el salvador. we hope the good people of central america are ready for the democratic party's version of humanity and compassion. they might want to take a quick field trip to baltimore to see how it works out in the end. in 2018, the city of baltimore a higher murder rate than the city of el salvador or for that matter honduras, guatemala or afghanistan even. no one thought to call fema to help the people of baltimore. somebody should have. no one from baltimore offered asylum in el salvador. by the way come if they are, they should strongly consider excepting because much safer to live with ms-13 then baltimore. you would be far safer to go to honduras. in 2018, 30 of the 298 municipalities undressed reported no murders at all. same and guatemalan. in el salvador, zero murders. that is a massive improvement over so many other cities. so here's an idea. if you are telling us that parts of central america are so dangerous that crime constitutes humanitarian crisis, that is exactly what the biden administration is claiming, then why not move the people of el salvador, honduras or guatemala to safer parts of their own countries? has that occurred to any of the professional compassion merchants in the biden administration? apparently it hasn't. instead in a cruel twist, they are encouraging every young and ambitious person in el salvador to leave the country and head north to wash dishes and do our laundry. how is that a compassionate program? how is that not exploiting the people of central america? how is it good for el salvador? it's not pure it is something mckinsey and company thought of the commit grotesque. into solving of national crisis, they are as usual making it much worse. the message the biden administration has sent to el salvador and the countries around it could not be clear. the border is gone, we have a raised it, come join us. the people in the region have heard that message. >> they don't have a plan at the moment to get this under control and you know the white house is dispatching officials to the border to feed the situation firsthand, families with young children, they do feel like this is a moment where they can get into the united states. they do feel like there will be a more receptive policy from the biden administration. this is the challenge that the white house have appeared if they don't think their policy ia open invitation they have to sil that more clearly because that is obviously not the way it is being interpreted. >> tucker: so if the question is, is the biden administration encouraging the crisis at the border, let's see, there are honduran migrants on camera saying joe biden is going to help all of us so yes, they are encouraging it. they are doing it on purpose. why are they doing it on purpose? here is one clue. this week the democratic-controlled house of representatives set to vote on two separate bills that would grant citizenship and legal status to at least 4 million illegal aliens in the united states. one of those bills is called the farm work force modernization act and it grants amnesty to roughly a million immigrants. the only criterion commit if they can prove they worked in agriculture for 180 days over the past two years. 180 days, that is all it takes. that is all american citizenship is worth at this point, apparently. so it is starting to make sense white joe biden suspended all those deportations. 180 days is all it takes and the clock is running. but don't say that out loud in washington and don't say the watchword is plausible deniability. of course you are to report as many new citizens as you can in the united states to replace the disobedient ones that did not vote for us. come on, now, that is insane! conspiracy theory the street from qanon. to prove it it's not true at all, not even a little bit, the dhs secretary has warned all potentially illegal immigrants to stay far away from our southern border or else! or else what exactly? or else the dh secretary could be mildly unhappy with them. miffed at the very least. he's that kind of ruthless border protector. >> all i can do is communicate bow to the american public and to the individuals seeking protection. they need to wait. we are not saying don't come. we are saying don't come now. we will be able to deliver safe and orderly process to them as quickly as possible. >> tucker: oh, so actually, we are not saying don't come. we are saying don't come now. don't come now. come next week. we can give you more stuff. jason drugs is a retired security closed and has been watching the situation deteriorate badly as it never hs before and watching for weeks he joins us tonight. jason, thank you so much for coming on. how would you assess after having spent a life in this business securing the border of what you are seeing now along the new mexico border? >> it is great to be with you, tucker. thank you for having me. it is interesting. we are here in roma, texas in stark county which lies between mcallen, texas and laredo. behind me is an embattled area between two cartels and really one of the most violent on the southwest border and just to put things in perspective with the amount of immigration being seen in rio grande valley sector in the last seven days where we are, cbp has apprehended over 12,000 people. last night starting around 8:00 p.m., we started to see that and actually be getting behind me. this is an island known as salinas crossing where specifically uses certain independent groups to smuggle people into the u.s. and we document over 200 people last night. >> tucker: so you just reminded us that we are not watching simply economic migration. there is a war on going in the country right to the south which the media ignores because it is considered impolite to mention it. but how does that not increase the risk to the united states when you have people coming from a war zone? >> it is a great point. it is something i think that has not been discussed. one of the things we consistently do is talk about the immigration layer. i say that to you because under what is happening at the southwest border, immigration is one layer of clients coming into our country. when you look at how the smugglers treat people as a commodity, it is a humbling, humbling thing. we watched a lot of young children last night, and i tell you, i've seen a lot of them down here over the years. but it is always heart-wrenching. but underneath that layer and what i would ask all americans to think about, when you see these pictures of these families, no each child, parent come individual is charged by the cartel. if a mexican citizen $2500 just to cross the river. never mind how far into the united states you go. of central america and right here in this area, $3,000. if chinese, 5,000 and if russian or middle eastern, 9,000. so what is portrayed as just immigration issue is perpetrating violence in mexico. what has been happening behind me for the last year and a half is war as the cartels will tell you between cartel elgato. >> tucker: really one of the saddest stories." and one of the misreported stories. thank you, jaeson to make clear what is happening, thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> tucker: as we told you a minute ago we were are in salvador for the original serien see it next month on fox nation. we can show you a separate interview that the president of el salvador who makes the often not made point that this kind of emigration hurts every country involved. countries from which the immigrants are fling and to which they are going. everyone hurts. that interview just ahead. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tucker: we just finished up a long and legitimately interesting conversation with the president of el salvador, nayib armando bukele ortez and we talked about the immigration crisis from his perspective which of course is different from our perspective but the price was his perspective isn't that different. as he pointed out again and again in the conversation, the mass movement of poor, desperate people north in search of a better life isn't good for anyone. it hurts all countries involved, including his. watch this. mr. president thank you for joining us. >> bukele: thank you, tucker for inviting me. >> tucker: there are estimated 2 million el salvador's in the united states. >> bukele: may be more. >> tucker: may be more and more coming now. why do you think so many people have moved from the country to the u.s.? >> bukele: it is obvious, they prove -- did not provide a lack of security. and so, most people don't want to leave their country. >> president bukele: they like their country, their food, weather, it is their country. and they want to see their friends. but most people leave the country because of two main reasons. and those main reasons, the main driver at the beginning, and then you have people that come here and rather than security based over what you have there versus here, those are the main drivers of immigration peer the country has failed to provide security and economic opportunities so people leave. >> tucker: but if the richest country in the world says if you cross over the border, we will give you free health care, free education, all of these benefits, that is a draw, isn't it? >> president bukele: of course. everything in life is pros and cons, right? >> tucker: yes. >> president bukele: so immigration, concretely you don't know the language where the journey is a difficult one and you may die and the journey. but in the end, you receive a lot come of course, the pros go up in the cons go down. so for example, here in el salvador we have better jobs and better security, it makes less sense. but you can see the numbers. we haven't changed the country 180 degrees and nine months in government, of course but if you see the number two years ago when you see the numbers now. >> tucker: yes. >> president bukele: couple of reasons but one of the reasons is we have improve security by 75%. i mean, go down 75% in violent crimes 35%. and economical opportunities are better than what they were two years ago. and there's a little bit more hope that it will be better. so that lowers the numbers and that is why you have 10,000 people going from honduras and then going up in el salvador. but two years el salvador was bigger with immigration. so you have drivers here, like i told you before, economical opportunity and security. but what do you find at the border? and what do you find in a law enforcement over there? >> tucker: losing energetic taking people's bed for your company. you want to keep people. do you resent the fact that the united states has offered all these incentives for people to leave your country and come here? >> president bukele: i'm not offended but i think for a country that is not profitable, first, it is immoral and what you need to provide for your people. >> tucker: yes. >> president bukele: it is an moral issue but it's an economic issue. if you spend hardworking people and talented people that want to risk just to go to work, you want to keep them here because those will be the jobs in your economy. you don't want them there which would be a small portion of what they would earn. and produce. you want them to produce here. you are talking about problems that have been there and a lot of countries in america for decades. and this immigration thing is just beating on dependency, on immigration and the country as the driver. so it is not good for the united states, and it is not good for el salvador. the best thing for both of us is to keep our people here and provide for our people right here in this country. that is what people here want. >> tucker: yes. >> president bukele: in the end, of course i won't resent it, but i think it is better to keep our people here. and morally. >> tucker: explain quickly if you would, you said it is not good for the united states to become dependent on immigration. what do you mean by that? >> president bukele: no, no, not in other countries. if you don't provide for your people, economic opportunities, your economy is doing bad and security doing bad, people will leave. and they will go and try to find a richer country. they want to go to the united states. so that makes this country dependent on immigration because you become an and exploiter of people. you are exploiting people. so that makes your economy dependent on that because those people send money back to the home country which is not a good economic formula. but you make the economy dependent on that. so when you keep this country depending on that, the economy is like a vicious cycle. so what is bad for the united states because immigration will go up. it is bad for our country because people leaving the country will go up as well. so what is bad for both of us. >> tucker: smart. thank you. >> president bukele: thank you. >> tucker: conversation went on and on and turned to ms-13. and i will go into a prison to members of el salvador. you will see the whole thing on fox nation as part of the original series soon, probably next month. well, meanwhile in washington, the leaders have ordered to worry about but more important things going on. they have a major breakthrough in a cold case of supreme court justice brett kavanaugh and his potential high school girlfriend. and certain on that case after the break. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tucker: 40 years ago, senator sheldon whitehouse was famous in charlottesville, virginia, as the single ms member of the law school class. we don't mean that to sound mean but it is true. it is verifiable. sheldon whitehouse, how did he get in here everyone asks? people ask years later, how did this guy get into the u.s. senate but he did. good for him, maybe being for the island gives you an advantage. sheldon whitehouse somehow winds up in the united states senate and then winds up at the center of brett kavanaugh confirmation hearing in september 2018. remember this? >> did the word ralph you use -- >> i already answered the question. >> i like beer. i don't know if you like beer, senator, what do you like to drink? i don't know, how do you pronounce that? >> refers to flatulence. we were 16. [laughter] >> okay, devil's triangle? >> drinking game. >> how is it played? >> three glasses and a triangle. >> and -- >> you ever played quarters? >> it is a quarters game. >> tucker: [laughter] ever played quarters sheldon whitehouse? no, i've never played quarters. [laughter] it's only game he's played. in any case, as you well know, that man seated on the supreme court anyway and sheldon whitehouse has been stewing about it ever since. he recently sent a letter to the attorney general saying the fbi 2018 background investigation of brett kavanaugh and we are quoting here "was perhaps fake." well, who to put on the story of the fake fbi background investigation but brit hume. the senior political analyst on fox news who joins us now, before i appreciate you coming on tonight. some of us accuse the fbi of botching investigations but faking a background investigation with supreme court nominee is pretty big news. >> he said nothing at the white house to support that proposition. look, i'm glad you wanted to have me on the story, but i hope you won't asked me to relive that will nightmare. that was, and my mind, 50 years the single most disgusting thing that i've ever witnessed. it was an out and out on cooperated to character assassination of a man who was palpably well qualified for the job of supreme court justice. whose number of opinions adopted by the supreme court itself. whose testimony on the matters that mattered most of that is the law and his role as a charge was impeccable. the effort was made to undo him by this last-minute allegation by a woman who could not tell even what year he was alleged to have assaulted her. where exactly it happened, how far it was from her home or the club where she said the house was near. nothing came along to substantiate or back of the allegations. when all said and done, it was not clear of the two people had even met. it was utterly, utterly unsubstantiated. that is why he ultimately succeeded and is now on the courts. and for the white house to be saying this stuff now is a desperate rearguard action to reinvigorate the case. i don't think it's going anywhere. and i think the fbi looked into the background check, they would find they contacted, guess what, a background check. >> tucker: everything you said seems absolutely right. that is kind of the purpose of the question. why do you think if you can speculate if i could ask you to for a minute why would sheldon whitehouse want to do this? so embarrassing and he didn't have anything then but now accusing the fbi of being some grand conspiracy. do you think there is a political reason to bring this up again? >> well, he has a liberal senator. the supreme court is now a majority of judicial conservatives. that is disagreeable to the sheldon whitehouse as of the world. and what could be better than to take another stab at dislodging him from the court. think about what would have to happen to come about, talker, they would have to go back into the case and they would have tod things that have not been found since in all of the investigation and by the way, i should note committee staffs have investigators. and the investigators in this case did just that. they didn't come up with anything to substantiate that claim and it's worth remembering it was only one claim. so the best speculation i would give you is a guy that didn't know any better to ask the questions doesn't know any better than to raise this. >> tucker: that seems like a perfectly plausible explanation for the whole thing. brit hume, thank you very much. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: sheldon whitehouse has never played quarters. drinking games are the only good thing he is good at. he should have gone pro. there is a big development tonight in the effort to recall the incompetent governor of california gavin newsom. gavin newsom is not pleased nor is anyone who wants him to leave office. more on that just ahead. ♪ ♪ with mortgage rates at their lowest in history, it's time to refi. but if you're a veteran homeowner and need cash, here's big news. introducing refiplus from newday usa. it lets you refi at all-time low rates plus you could take out $50,000 or more. money for security today, money for retirement tomorrow. refiplus. it's only for veterans and it's only from newday usa. so many people are overweight now and asking themselves, "why can't i lose weight?" for most, the reason is insulin resistance, and they don't even know they have it. conventional starvation diets don't address insulin resistance. that's why they don't work. now there's release from golo. it naturally helps reverse insulin resistance, stops sugar cravings, and releases stubborn fat, all while controlling stress and emotional eating. at last, a diet pill that actually works. go to golo.com to get yours. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tucker: will come at the attempt to exercise democracy in the state of california and oust the governor gavin newsom and a recall, a chilling signatures. gavin newsom thought a lot about it, why you are my constituencies trying to kick me out of office? he thought deeply to himself and arrived at a culprit. it's not him, obviously, it's not his fault and nothing to do with the fact he can't keep the lights on in his state. the fact that it is crumbling and everyone who earns a living is fleeing to texas. the real problem according to gavin newsom is the people who live in california are racist. >> california, no other reason the recall is happening and this recall is like getting up on the ballot predating the pandemic. the number one grievance was the grounding in california, immigration. >> tucker: oh, you are a racist if you don't like the way gavin newsom is running california. he went on to blame ditta's right-wing qanon conspiracists. so clearly made up by the left by the way and anti-faxes extremists and if you have questions about the vaccine, you want gavin newsom recalled. and dunsmore doesn't fit into any of these categories and yet she's one of the leaders of the california recall efforts. she is the manager, campaign manager of rescue california and we are happy to have you one. think it's much for coming on. first, since he is your governor, assess newsom's dismissal as a cue in on militia member. >> welcome i will. he has dismissed 50% of our signatories are women. he is dismissing 58% as you know as an independent poll done in the last few days that showed 58% of californians want to see him recalled. for him to play the race card over and over and over again is barely a deflection and it's very transparent. i think we have women and a huge number of people supporting that no preference and democrats. he's managed to alienate pretty much everybody and there isn't anyone that has had to deal with the ramifications of his lack of leadership and poor decision-making except for maybe him. so i think he's the only person who has never had to abide by the will policies he himself has said. and the amazing thing is just a few weeks ago you will remember 91% of the teachers his constituents voted against his back-to-school plan and then when he messed that up, they said that the plan that he had was actually propagating structural racism. so he is being targeted with racism. he's being targeted with the same type of things and just like any other politician as opposed to a leader, he is deflecting and casting those same stones at other people. he is our favorite kind of opponent but we have to sit back and watch him go. >> tucker: every america imagines people with spanned or sounding last names love and most patronizing thing you could imagine. are you going to be able to recall this buffoon? >> yes, and the numbers are just increasing as we speak. that is 58% is quite a downward spiral for him and quite a boost for us. we have quite a bit of the ways to go. there were so many issues -- i mean, he closed we call it a campaign kickoff and he called it a state of the state. he closed by saying this is the best date to do business in. no, it's not actually. it is the worst of the worse and we have many like that and it deserves to be the best of the best. we should have been leading the nation in vaccine rollouts. we should be leading the nation and going back to school. we should be leading and we are not. we are way behind. we are in the bottom. >> tucker: yeah. so for people who support democracy and support your exercise of it, tell us what we can learn more about the effort if you would? >> rescue california.org is our website and we post things regularly. we have a great, great following of about 20,000 volunteers at any given time gathering signatures. we have 800 signature locations, and we will be using all of that to disseminate information about him as we go forward. >> tucker: good for you. that is democracy. we appreciate you using it tonight. thank you. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: now if you have someone you love graduating what you thought is a prestigious university this month, you might want to double check your calendar. the graduation date might depend on that person scan. kind of lik to get used to and the jim crow south but it is coming back but how long before separate water fountains? mark steyn to respond to the new separation of people straight ahead. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tucker: if you are over 40 and you think columbia university is pretty impressive, you haven't checked in. it is now the birthplace of the modern equity movement. they first came up with the idea of inter-sectionalism. now columbia is showing us where inter-sectionalism and equity leads, right back to the jim crow south. columbia has announced it will hold racially-segregated graduation ceremonies for students in the next few weeks. there is going to be a separate ceremony for students who identify as native american, asian, something called latinx. there will also be a lavender ceremony for people identifying as "lgbtq." so, mark steyn is an expert in insanity and the question to him, of course is how long before we have several water fountains for all of these groups? mark steyn, great to see you tonight. where is this going to think question or speak a while, we are going to need a lot of water problems. my advice these days is to check the all of the above box because you never know where this thing is going. they are inventing new identities. they are having a separate graduation ceremony for people who identify as low income. that doesn't really strike me as something that should be, i mean i understand that a lot of americans identify as low income. it's the national day for it. but you know, we are going to be doing stories like this every week until the whole civilization slides off a cliff. basically goes back to what you were saying at the top of the show, the idea is to weaken america, to weaken american identity, to weaken a sense of our civilizational heritage. i was interested in what they study in paris a couple weeks ago when he said as many frenchmen do, that he regards american wokeness as an existential threat to the french republic. the people who advised him to say that were a lot of french educators. this total insanity is coming from the united states on this issue. we generally get -- central and eastern europe still think like -- it is going to be a generation or more going through the damage of what we have done to our society, which is far more pernicious. >> tucker: you wonder though, how does the country hang together when kids are being taught from the earliest age that they have nothing in common with anyone else in the country other than the members of their own group? how does that work out over time? >> well, exactly. i mean, the australian prime minister about 15 years ago, john, he used the phrase to me, he said, and heroic national narrative. that is what you want to teach your kids in school about their inheritance. are tell mike we not only don't have that, but we have chosen to trash it. the word those french intellectuals, and i dare to say french intellectuals on english language television. everybody walks around laughing. dell might. but let's pretend they are serious for a moment. they say this is a bulldozer. this obsession with race and racial identity and identity politics is a bulldozer that destroys education and they are quite right about that. >> tucker: i have never been more strongly on the side of the french. you are right. thank you. i never thought i would say that. before we go tonight, we want to say thank you to the producers and security keeping us safe, setting up the shot in el salvador. we'll be back tomorrow night. the show that is the sworn enemy of my income, pomposity, groupthink. sean hannity. >> sean: all right, tucker, and as always, thank you. another bombshell, new reports surrounding near governor, andrew cuomo. his associates waged a smear campaign against his first accuser, the first of 7 only days after her allegations became public. so, is andrew cuomo going to be held accountable by that i believe her caucus? we will bring you that important update straight ahead. we will also have full coverage of the growing crisis, it is a crisis, it's real, on our southern border where 4 suspected terrorists have been --