Paying off Student Loan Debt, amount to 50,000 a person. How bad could this go . Welcome. Im neil cavuto. This is world world. Even among big spending democrats, the president says i dont know about 50,000. 10,000 possibly. Where this money will come from and ultimate how much money were talking about and who will be eligible . It will be anybodys guess. Its pricey. And how about those that have paid their student debt . Who do they do . Besides getting angry. Lets get to chad pergram with the very latest on this student debt payoff in overdrive. Martha democrats say eliminating the student debt could help the economy. Chuck schumer says it could happen by the end of the month. President biden has taken good steps in the direction of student debt but we think he has to go much further. We believe that number 1 the American People are strongly behind this hover wellingly. Legislators like schumer prefer to legislate rather than relying on the Executive Branch to to something. The white house agrees with Congressional Democrats on Student Loans but not on how to go about it. The Administration Says its not up to them. Mr. Biden told the Washington Post in december it was questionable that he had the thought to reduce Student Loans. The president has and continues to support cancelling 10,000 of federal Student Loan Debt as a response to the covid crisis. Hes calling on congress to draft the proposal. If its passed and sent to his desk, he will look forward to signing it. January 22, President Biden reauthorized suspension of payments when introducing miguel cardona, President Biden pushed to cut student loan payments. Neil . Neil thank you, chad for that. I want to go to david bernstein, democratic strategist, what he makes of this latest push. Kat timpf also joining us. Welcome to all of you. David, i have to begin with you. This money has to come from somewhere. When joe biden said i could kick around a 10,000 student Debt Forgiveness plan but he hasnt gone as far as 50,000. This is getting a little extreme. Who pays for it and who gets it . Look, i think we have to look at how impactful this is on the economy. You heard the point there from senator warren in the intro. We paid for many, many things, republicans and democrats without getting a good answer to that question. So i think congress has to find an answer to that question and find some answers. Theres plenty of places to do the offsets. The outcome in the pandemic, were talking about a generation of people that had to go through the Great Recession and now this. So its really ultimately about what will help the overall economy and the benefits that is much larger than the amount that were talking ant here in the near term. Neil well, im still looking at the amount and who qualifies for the Debt Forgiveness. So you have hit or her parents are helping to pay off a lot of that debt to find out. Wait a minute. I should have just held tight and not paid anything. Yes. Absolutely. I recent the fact that we call it cancellation in the first place. Its not cancellation. Its just passing the buck to somebody else. I also wanted to say that sure, it would add to the economy, but not more than it would take away. There was a recent report for the committee for responsible budget said yes, it would add money but cost 1. 7 trillion. I agree. I decided where to go to college based on the amount of scholarships than i got. I got to columbia. So excited to go and say i could never afford to pay this back. I didnt go. I worked jobs waiting tables, you know, sometimes 20hour workdays to, you know, be able to do this without having to take on that loan. Im not the only one who has gone through Something Like that. To now have to pay for other people that didnt, i dont see that how is other peoples responsibility. It isnt. Neil you know, david raises a good point, john. No doubt that a lot of these kids are strapped and have more college debt than i got out before the civil war. So i understand things. The thing i worry about is the precedent that this sets. If youre a college and youre used to finding ways to keep counting students and their parents, this is going to be another, you know, provocation to do just that, right . Let me be honest. I didnt grow up as rich as kat did. Super wealthy. Listen, im not confused, kat. 1. 7 trillion in student lone debt. 27 trillion the u. S. Is in. A average lone is 20 and 25,000 in 2019. Debt is an issue but we have millions out of work, covid that has hit the country in the way we never expected. If something should be done, you suspend the Interest Rate during a period of covid and beyond and perhaps enhance the forgive necessary programs beyond teachers and federal employees. Something needs to be done. Theres a load that comes on to people that they cant afford. Nobody expeced covid. Something has to be done and the federal government needs to act. Forgiving in totality is not something that i support. We signed up for it. Everybody went to college in some form, so were responsible for the loan in which we incurred. Therefore we have to pay something. But the federal government can step in. Im a conservative saying this. So thats for congress, which is democratically controlled. A lot of people voted for biden thinking their loans would be completely forgiven, which wont happen. Neil it does set up expectations. Bring out the point that you made, we have a record of forgiving debt and bailing out large institutions. We did that after the financial meltdown. Solid point. What i worry about here, Student Debt Loads are greater than 50,000. What is to say and who is to say, parents come forward and say i need more . Im swimming in 250,000 in debt. You have to pick up the tab for the rest. Then what . I think its a fair point, neil. The conversation here just today illustrates that there should be an i hope there will be some room for bipartisan compromise here. I think there are some conservatives that see some common sense in this idea. Who knows if it will actually end up at 50,000. Thats where its starting. But i think, you know, to the point, something has to be done here and it has to be paired with some thinking about the longterm implications. Are colleges going to raise their prices . There should be something done about that issue as well. In an ideal world, this wouldnt be a oneoff thing. Everyone has loans right now will get up to 50,000 and you go home and do whatever you want. It impacts our college, the rising cost of college and how critical a degree is to succeed in todays economy. I hope that that will be looked at as part of it as long with the question that youre raising. There should be some kind of limits on it for people, maybe just throw something out here. Maybe people have a certain amount left a small amount, maybe a percentage basis. Those are the details that congress will work there as they move that forward and get bipartisan support on it. Neil if you have a podcast, you shouldnt get a dime. Well watch that closely. Thanks very much. A couple of things here we go. Couple things were waiting on here. This vote in the house on the fate of Margie Taylor greene and whether she should continue on Key Committees. Senator john thune, the second highest republican in the senate, very concerned about the message republicans might be sending on this conflicting signals he says about the treatment of liz cheney versus congresswoman greene. 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They point to the slower than expected distribution of the vaccine and new restrictions on International Travel as the major factors and folks not flying to the extent they would. American says they will fly 45 in the First Quarter compared to 2019. This is after american had their biggest loss at 8. 9 billion. A week after United Airlines issued Furlough Warnings to 13,000 employees. The industry is pushing for another 15 billion in aid from washington to help prevent these layoffs. Today the white house Cast Doubt On that being included in the next package. As you know, theres a process that will be on going on capitol hill over the next days and through the course of next week where theres amendments put forward to work on committees. The priorities of the president are already in the bill. That includes vaccinations that would indirectly benefit the airlines, but the industry says without direct aid, it could be forced to make additional cuts before things turn and. Neil . Neil thank you very much for that update. Meantime, want to go to senator bill cassidy. Hes a very important player in this. He sits on the Senate Finance committee. Republican from louisiana. Senator, you think airlines should be included in this Stimulus Plan, some relief, something to protect the jobs . I wish my thoughts mattered. We made an overture to the white house to negotiate with them. They have not been interested. Lip service, not interested. Want to look at what the outlook is for the Airline Industry. Is Business Travel going to rebound. Are businesses making a decision that they can zoom just as easily as traveling . You need a sophisticated analysis. Im hoping to do whatever i can to keep people employed in our country. I think jobs are a good thing. But you would want to know the facts before making a decision like that. Neil meantime, democrats are separately pushing to include this Student Loan Forgiveness in the Stimulus Plan. Barring that, argue it later on. Some as much as 50,000 for student loan dealt. The president is open to the possibility of 10,000. Again, senator, whether its part of this package or another one, where are you on helping students with their debt . Tell me to whom it applies . The neurosurgeon that borrowed 200,000 to go to Medical School but making money and can easily pay it back . The neurosurgeon doesnt need that and shouldnt receive it. The other hand, the person who took a job that would never have that kind of compensation may have made a poor decision about the university that they attended but nonetheless is saddled with debt. They may need help. That is a discussion to have. Again, you want facts. Unfortunately in this kind of bipartisanship but not really talk about, not really engage in it, not really do it, its hard to make an intelligent decision to know what theyre basing that recommendation upon. Neil you know, senator, even though its in the house, you have spoken out about the marjorie Taylor Greene situation. The house is going to vote on whether to remove her from Key Committee on which she sits. You had noted the fact that shes discredited the Conservative Movement. You went on to say as far as im concerned, shes not in my tent. Should she be in the u. S. Congress . I will leave that up to the voters and the house. Im a senator. I point out any time somebody says with a straight face that a jewish family set off laser beams to start fires in california, you say is this a satire . When you realize it was said seriously . That person should not be taken seriously. So the Conservative Movement is needed now more than ever as we see what is coming out of the white house. I think its time for us to be very serious not to listen to that, which is unserious. Neil now, she spoke up and said that she regets some of the marks she made. Shes gotten to congress, she hasnt said this kind of stuff. You believe her . What ive been told she will not publicly disavow them. Regret is different than disavowing. You must disavow, condemn, you must say that is not a part of me and not a part of our movement. There can be no ifs, ands or buts about it. That smacked of antisemitism. That shouldnt be part of either party. Snacks of lunatics. A laser beam from outer space starting a wild fire . That is not something that will address the nations problems. That is something that at worse makes Conspiracy Theories who could believe that . Nonetheless that somebody would support it. We have big problems in our country, big problems. We have to Work Together to get them. We need a conservative voice that is going to make serious arguments about how to go forward preserving that which is good about our country. To be distracted with that sort of thing, deleterious to our Conservative Movement, harmful to our country. Neil thanks, senator. Fair and balanced, i want to go to senator mark warner to get his take on these developments. First, senator, i asked you what i asked senator cassidy, whether this movement in the house to strip marjorie Taylor Greene of her House Community seat is wise. What do you think . I agree with my friend, bill cassidy. Her comments are wacky. They demean the whole congress, regardless of which party. I wish Leader Mccarthy had dealt with this within the republican conference. But when he didnt take actions, i understand why the majority is going ahead taking action. Because again, this is not about partisanship. Its about plain wacky theories. Laser beams by jewish families and denying the parkland massacres, outrageous being a Firm Adherence of this qanon theory, which increasing Law Enforcement and Intelligence Community believes is a threat to our country. You know, if you are a member of congress, you take anest an oath to stand by the rules. This person is rebuking that oath. Neil are you worried democrats send forever, theres one having relations with a chinese spy. The democrats are very good to Heap Criticism on republicans for how they handle their own. Ive not seen the stories perhaps as much as you have. I have seen this reportage. If there was any evidence that congressman was somehow involved with some chinese spy ring, that would merit serious investigation. I dont believe neil there was no investigation, right senator . We dont know. If you have evidence about that, bring it forward. Their Intelligence Committee or our Intelligence Committee ought to look at it. Meantime, it wouldnt why dont we take you off this committee while were debating this . The same thing youre advocating for the congresswoman. What im advocating is, you have an individual that again, even the Republican Leadership that her comments were outrageous and again, the republican leader flipped his position again. If you feel these kind of statements are legitimately made by a member of congress and theres no sanction, that is a position. Its not a position i agree on. All right. I understand. I didnt want to get into that for the breaking news. Thanks what about what about the neil i do want to look into the relief measure. I want to get to the relief measure. Democrats are saying it should be the full 1. 9 trillion. Republicans are leery of that. Where are you on this . Listen, my friend bill cassidy was on earlier. He and i are great friends. I was proud of the fact that he was part of the Bipartisan Group where we came together in the 900 billion package that President Trump signed in december. That took a lot of give and take. We started with a high number, they started with a low number. We ended up at 900. It wasnt perfect. But we got there. I still would love to see a bipartisan package on this next relief effort. There was agreement on the covid component. There is less agreement on the need for a large stimulus. I think the administration could do a better job showing that the macroneeds not just in the First Quarter but the next bill will be all well spend in the second art third quarter. The economists that ive have heard said we need that additional the stimulus. You pointed out the Airline Industry coming back and saying, hey, we thought things were going to get better by now. Theyve not gotten better. We need additional help. And i think this economy is still on a precipice. It is not fallen off as badly as we anticipated. Often times the due to the bipartisan prior relief packages. I think there needs to be another relief package. The exact component parts, you know, have some issues with some of the things the president has talked about. I think it can be improved. I think there ought to be some additional Small Business support. I think there ought to be broad band in a major way in this package. Broad band is a economic stimulus and related to covid. My hope is that were going through a little bit of philly Business Today with what is called votearama where we vote on potentially 600 amendments, not all of them get voted on. They dont mean a thing. The kind of thing that frustrates people. Well get back to the serious discussion that bill was talking ant later tonight and tomorrow. Neil all right. Senator warner, i appreciate your taking the time to deal with these breaks news developments. Well see how the Stimulus Measure goes and what each party gets. The vote is underway in the house right now as we were touching on with congresswoman marjorie Taylor Greene. Democrats and good many republicans seem to indicate that she shouldnt have a role in the committees. Shes very popular in her direct. What that means is anybodys guess. Stay with us. Obsession has many names. This is ours. The new lexus is. All in on the sports sedan. 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Janet yellen meeting with her financial world counter parts to discuss what goes on with gamestop. More after this. Neil all right. It was a meeting, sort of a teleconference of the most powerful financial players in the world. Janet yellen speaking with the head of the federal reserve, the securities and exchange commission, the Commodities Commission and a lot of other key players and what to make of this mania some would just say worse than that in some of these stocks that has launched a war between those betting stocks will dive and those countering that buying the stocks that they thought would dive. Its a mess. Is the federal government hinting at a role here . Is treasury secretary Yellen Crafting that role . Charlie gasparino on that and more. Whats doing on . Yeah, we dont know what was said in this meeting. Well find out in the next hour or so. Bottom line the federal government is hinting at a role in what happened with gamestop and the frenzy stocks. Lets be clear. Gamestop amid this wild trading frenzy traded was a penny stock. Traded a couple months ago, several months ago below 5 a share. Then traded as high as 500 a share. If you look at a chart today, its crushed. 50 a share or below 50 and heading lower. So in order to make sense of that, regulators hate that type of volatility. It scares the average investor out of the market. They have to they would look to get their hands around it and probably try to pass some legislation. It wont be easy. You know, this is a complicated story. Takes more time to fully impact what happened here. A short squeeze, small investors being involved in the market like never before bidding up the stock. Squeezing the shorts that are betting that it would fall. A hedge fund that almost goes under, being bail out. The robinhood app i did a column about this about how that was adding fuel to a speculative fire because you could trade at no cost. Now everybody pointing fingers at everybody how theres a lot of evil here including short selling, which again, prices go down, the short sellers lost money but somehow theyre getting the short end of the stick here. Theres legislation that says that we may not need the speculation. Well know more. Its a complicated situation. Its so besides the point, too. If you put your money in an index fund, youd do okay. The speculation never, never ends well for the average investor. Never. It just low pressure, im all for everybody buying stocks. Thats a good thing. Go out there, do it longterm. If you want to trade, theres always a time and place for vegas. Not every day but maybe once a year on vacation. You see what im saying. Neil yeah. Absolutely. The buffet stuff, absolutely. All right. Charlie gasparino, thank you very much. All right. Things are getting tense between ourselves and china right now. Remember, they were increasing the number of ships around the Taiwan Strait. Now we have a couple of ships there. Where are we going here . After this. Wanna build a Gaming Business that breaks the internet . That means working night and day. And delegating to an experienced live bookkeeper for peace of mind. Your books are all set. So you can finally give john some attention. Trusted experts. Guaranteed accurate books. Intuit quickbooks live. I had this hundred thousand dollar student debt. Two hundred and twentyfive thousand dollars in debt. Ah, sofi literally changed my life. It was the easiest application process. Sofi made it so theres no tradeoff between my dreams and paying Student Loans. Student loans dont have to take over for the rest of your life. Thank you for allowing me to get my money right. Neil all right. Things are getting tense in the Taiwan Strait right now. The latest from Jennifer Griffin with the read from the pentagon. Hey, jennifer. Hi, neil. President biden just spoke at the State Department about how he views the way ahead with china. Well confront chinas economic abuses, counter their coercive action to put back on human rights, Intellectual Property and global governance. Were ready to work with beijing when its in americas interest to do so. Earlier today, the navys Seventh Fleet sent a Guidance Missile Destroyer through the Taiwan Strait. Its the First Transit this year and the first since President Biden took office. Its bound to get beijings attention shortly after the inauguration, china dispatched two large formations of war planes including bombers close to taiwan. Taipei scrambled fighter jets. The last time u. S. Warships went through the strait was new years eve. The u. S. S. Roosevelt launched jets in a not so subtle message to china. U. S. Warships transited the waterways 13 times last year. The most since 2016 during the Obama Administration when u. S. Warships conducted 12 Freedom Of Navigation operations. Neil . Neil thanks, Jennifer Griffin. To commander kirk lippold, the former u. S. S. Cole commander. Commander, this situation in the Taiwan Strait, a lot of ships are there. Anything can happen. What do you think will . What do you think, neil, is the United States is exercising Freedom Of Navigation operations. Its continuity between the Trump Administration and the Biden Administration that the u. S. Will sail wherever we want whenever we want and recognized International Waters and were going to do the operations necessary to maintain readiness and at the same time send a signal to china that we do not recognize some of their illegal International Claims to the south china sea. Neil you think, commander, that china will act on his bell bellicose talk . The talk about taiwan was a step too far about the chinese. What if they test us with that . I dont think they will, neil. When you look at it, china will act bellicose. Theyre feeling rambunctious. They have trying to intimidate our allies from australia to japan and south korea as they exercise their claim. When you look at taiwan, they viewed it as a renegade provence. Its concerning when we sail our Aircraft Carriers and ships that theyre conducting Mock Bomb Raids like the soviet union used to do in the 80s. So given that signal from china, we have no choice but to say look, lets not get into this. Lets not try to create the situations for a mistake to occur. But were ready, willing and able, if necessary, if something were to happen, we will respond and respond quickly and forcefully to defend ourselves. Neil real quickly, commander. Nothing stops the chinese from continuing to militarize that are not theirs. Its an unfortunate thing that internationally that has been recognized as illegal activity. Theres no teeth behind it. If anyone is going to enforce taking out those islands, it would be the United States and the first thing you have to look at is those islands which are commonly referred to as the dash9 line, if a conflict were to start, the first thing we would do is take those islands out which would collapse china all the way back the taiwan and being able to respond to it, and that is a very dangerous proposition for both sides to get into. Neil commander, thanks very much. Commander kirk lippold on that. Keeping you abreast of developments where teachers are defying mayors in city after city even after the cdc says despite whats going on, they dont need to be vaccinated to get back to class after this. Nicorette knows, Quitting Smoking is hard. You get advice like try hypnosis. Or. Quit cold turkey. Kidding me . instead, start small. With nicorette. Which can lead to something big. 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If you see wires down, treat them all as if theyre hot and energized. Stay away from any downed wire, call 911, and call pg e right after so we can both respond out and keep the public safe. Neil all right. Chicagos mayor has all but demanded teachers return to the classroom. Heres the thing, theyre not doing it even though the cdc says vaccinations are not a prerequisite for safely opening schools. Lets go to an expert. The former acting cdc director, dr. Richard besser. Good to have you back. So the mayor in this case says teachers, go back. Its fine. Go back. Theyre saying no. The cdc says vaccinations might be a good idea. But theyre not the be all and end all and wouldnt make a difference going back one way or the other. Who is right . Yeah, neil, its a challenging issue. You want everyone to be as safe as possible. You know, early on in this pandemic, the move was to get schools closed. That was based on the flu and how readily it spread. What were learning from the United States and around the globe, you can get children back to school safely. Safely for the children and the staff and safely for the teachers if youre able to do those things, you know, put distance between children, decompress them in the classrooms, have staff available to do screening. These things work. What the studies have shown, there was a great paper that came out this week, this was in wisconsin, in mississippi, in north carolina. They were not seeing schools as a risk for transmission in communities. They were not seeing and in other settings, they have seen less tran mission than in the ongoing community. So teachers should be in the group of frontline workers that are given vaccines early. But you dont need to have that to be able to open schools very safely. Neil obviously teachers are concerned otherwise. They think that they might catch it from the kids. How likely is that . What are the odds that an adult, multiple adults could contract is virus from a child . Its possible. Its much lower than what we see with flu. If you ensure that staff and teachers and children are wearing masks, that youre able to identify quickly anyone who has symptoms and is sick, those things work. They do work. Its one of the things that i see as a sense of a Silver Lining in this pandemic. As a pediatrician, i know how important it is for children to be in school learning. I was very worried and i was early on in this pandemic, i was calling for schools to go to remote because of what we knew from flew, from the 1918 pandemic. School districts that closed early, they saw a decrease in spread within the community. But what were seeing here, the rate of positive tests in kids in school is much lower than what they saw in the surrounding community. So you need to make sure that teachers, especially teachers that are high risk of having severe disease, that theyre able to to their teaching remotely. For the majority of teachers and staff and students for inperson learning, you can do it safely. Neil got it. Thanks, dr. Richard besser. The former cdc acting director. More were following on capitol hill right now. Take you live to the house where theyre going through the motions and setting up for a vote on whether down the road whether marjorie Taylor Greene should be sitting on Key Committees. Kevin mccarthy, a republican leader, arguing that point back and forth. That will be coming up in the next hour. Were on it with senator john thune and the impact this is having on republicans after this. You cant plan for your periods. What the gush moments. But the right pad can. Only always Ultra Thins Have Rapiddry Technology and, they absorb 40 faster. The gush happens fast. Thats why always absorbs faster. 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You are looking live at the house floor right now where congress is debating the fate on marjorie Taylor Greene, the Key Committee here. We have senator dondero and with us, second ranking republican in the United States senate. He has criticized House Republicans conference for failing by choosing the q and on Conspiracy Theory over traditional conservative values. He joins me now. Senator, thank you very much. You were very passionate about this, you warrant the house and said they decided their decision on green, in other words, not to punish her, that the party of limited government, fiscal government and other conservative values should fall to Conspiracy Theories and qanon. Do you still feel that way . What i fundamentally believe was that we have to be a partys of ideas and principles and policies. I think thats why people across this country vote for us. They vote for us because we believe in economic freedom, because we believe in fiscal responsibility, because where the party of limited government, to maintain strength of a nation youve got to maintain strong defense. Fundamental core republican policies and ideas and too often lately we get caught up in personalities. We have gotten caught up in Conspiracy Theories, and i want to see our Republican Party that articulates a vision for the future that attracts people and is going to be politics of addition rather than subtraction. And i think the way to do that is to get out and talk about those ideas, about those policies that can make a difference in ordinary peoples lives on a daily basis. So that is what i was trying to get across. Obviously, the House Republicans have to take care of their own business. I do think its a bad press neil you ran into some heat back home. Im sorry, some heat back home in south dakota because you simply refused to challenge the elector vote when it came up in congress and for that, you suffer the wrath of a lot of trompe loeil lists, including the president himself who said it would be a good idea to primary you. Where are you right now . People in my district know me well and they know im going to speak the truth. There were a lot of people who bought into the notion that the election was rigged, the election was stolen and i said i know there are irregularities, there are irregularities in every election and they need to be investigated to the fullest and there are certainly things we can do and make changes at the level and ensure there is more confidence and trust in future elections but weve got to move on as a country. We had an election and it was investigated and there were audits and recertifications, and we should move on. That is all i was simply saying. At some point, even though it is uncomfortable for people to hear it youve got to give them the hard truth. Thats all i was doing, if that gets me crosswise with people, so be it but i love the opportunity to convince them and persuade them about the reasons for the conclusions that i came to and i believe they are the correct ones. Neil the former president , not able to testify at his own trial next week. Do you agree with that decision, very quickly, im sorry. I think its probably in his best interest not to testify and i think senators would like to expedite this on both sides in my view is the president of basras Legal Defense team will have to decide that. Im an impartial juror, i will have to look at the evidence but i wouldnt do that if i was him. Neil all right, senator, thank you very much. We have a lot of other issues, these other news items are suddenly dominating. Following the progress on the budget and the future of the congresswoman. Jesse hello, everybody, im Jesse Watters along with juan williams, dana perino, greg gutfeld, its 5 00 in New York City and this is the five. There is a fullblown revolt against Teachers Unions who are refusing to return to the classroom and harming kids. Accusing her citys Teachers Union of creating chaos for not taking a deal after the city bent over backwards to accommodate their demands. Watch. Cps had three weeks of successful implementation of the Mitigation Plans in