said heard immunity should be 60% and wearing double masks after being vaccinated -- >> this is remarkable. i want to talk with you about this as well because there are very serious questions we are only now coming out of the pandemic, we've got vaccine questions of course and yet this is sitting in the background as we wonder who funded this since we sent money and and can you've got fauci's comments about the benefits outweigh the risk. what do you say about that? >> i say that are on medical bureaucracy believe it or not played a role in the creation of the deadly virus. as you mentioned doctor fauci back in 2012 is advocating gain of function research despite the fact there was a moratorium on such risky research. what did we do? we taught chinese scientists how to carry out gain of function research in our own labs at the