Florence Shaw is easy to talk to. That may sound trite, but it’s the first thing I notice about her during our Zoom call—that despite the hint of nervousness in her voice, she’s chill and unpretentious, easy to get a laugh out of. Not that I expected a difficult interview, but perhaps her vivacious energy came as a surprise coming from the cryptic singer-songwriter I’m faced with when I listen to her band Dry Cleaning, a post-punk outfit out of South London.