Kudlow. Im larry kudlow. So President Bidens state of the union peach last night mainly vilified donald trump speech. Mr. Biden had some memory loss, he he thought it was the Democratic National convention instead of the state of the union, but he was standing at the end of the speech. We will have commentary from Vivek Ramaswamy and governor doug burgum about all that. Were going to ask our own steve hilton whos going to win the president ial election. Good question. Plus, todays jobs report came in on the soft side. Our own taylor riggs and breitbarts john carney will tell us why. Kash patel is going to try to explain how the u. S. Military can actually build a new mediterranean port in gaza, no less. But first up, lets head to washington d. C. Edward lawrence standing by with more from last nights to hangover. Edward, what can you tell us . [laughter] reporter well, you said it, larry. We heard one of the most partisan state of the Union Addresses that the i can remember. It seemed President Biden used to occasion to talk directly to his Democratic Base without much reaching across the aisle or unity in this speech. My predecessor, a former republican president , tells putin, quote, do whatever the hell you want. My predecessor and some of you here seek to bury the truth about january 6th. I will not do that. My predecessor is determined to see roe v. Wade overturned. Hes the reason it was overturned, and he brags about it. My predecessor failed the most basic president ial duty that he owes to American People, the duty the care. Reporter 13 times President Biden said my predecessor. The president tried to good a response from republicans g goad a response which largely failed, and he said israel has the right to defend itself and and then seemingly reached out to voters or in michigan and minnesota who have protested him on this. Israel must do its part. Israel must allow more aid into gaza and insure humanitarian workers arent caught in the crossfire. [applause] theyre announcing theyre going to, theyre going to have a crossing in northern gaza is. If. Reporter so the gop response alabama senator katie britt brought the debate back home, asking the ageold question america deserves leaders who recognize that secure borders, stable prices, safe streets and a Strong Defense are actually the cornerstones of a great nation. Just ask yourself, are you better off now than you were three years ago . Reporter and as you said at the top of the state of the union address, it could have been used as a convention speech. It looks like this president ial race is going to get nasty. Larry all right, edward lawrence, thank thanks very, very much. Just a couple thoughts from me on this story. Yes, yes, in last nights state of the union speech President Joe Biden had a whole bunch of whoppers and tall tales and fabrications that never if seemed to coincide with factual reality. The committee town leash prosperitys hotline reports on the budget deficit the familiar biden untruth when he says he reduced the deficit by 1. 7 trillion, and can thats a number hes carried on with for years. And the Washington Post gave him a bottom withless pinocchio for it. Bottomless. Mr. Biden generated about 6 trillion of red ink during his term so far, and the latest cbo base withline sew ises shows that federal debt in public hands is projected to rise to 48 trillion or 116 of fdp. Both unheard of gdp. Both unheard of numbers. Bidens most recent budget includes 82 trillion in spending, over 10 years, eclipsing 24. 8 of gdp which is 21 trillion higher hand the prebiden cbo projections and is 21. 1 more spending than the historical average of the past half century. Then, of course, mr. Biden gives the usual leftwing we will make the rich pay their fair share, which is always an amusing charge. Given the fact that the top 1 of earnings pay nearly half of the federal income tax. 46 , to be exact. Even though, by the way, they only earn 26 of the income, they pay 46 of the tax. Go figure. By the way, study after study shows that lower tax rates reduce tax sheltering and produce more tax revenues. Widen, of course biden, of course, with the usual farleft democratic class warfare promises to grow the economy, get this, with a soak the rich tax plan that will raise the corporate tax, nearly double the Capital Gains tax, quadruple the stock buyback tax, impose a new 25 wealth tax on unrealized Capital Gains on billionaires. But biden define cans billionaires as a defines billionaires as anyone with more than 100 million showing once again that he cannot count. Then, of course, he keep telling us that he inherited a terrible economy from donald trump. The only problem with that assertion is in the Third Quarter of 2020, trumps covid vshaped recovery produced a 3 3 growth rate, a 4. 1 gdp in the Fourth Quarter of 2020 and a 6. 5 growth rate in the First Quarter of 2021. And get this, that was an inflation rate of 1. 4 percent. Now, this is not an economy on the brink of disaster, this is an economic silver plater that trump handed to biden and then proceeded to slam it into the ground with a 9 inflation rate peak and two negative gdp quarters in the first half of 2022. So go figure. Now, one of the more troubles in the many troubles in the biden economy is the a affordability crises where typical working families is have lost money in the last three years because of high prices of essential goods and services and lackluster income. During the trump years, working folks got a 9 pay increase adjusted for inflation. During the biden years, they lost nearly 5 . The average oil price under mr. Trump, 53 a barrel. Under biden so far, 80 a barrel with. The average inflation rate under biden, 6 at an annual rate for three years. Under mr. Trump it was 1. 9 for his entire 4year term. Adjusted for the pandemic, trump created 6. 4 million new jobs and mr. Biden only 5. 5 million. And, of course, last night mr. Biden continued his freespending ways adding a new wrinkle this time. Now hes going to try to push out a 400 mortgage credit for everybody to deal with the mortgage Home Ownership affordability crisis where mortgage rates, with by the way, were 2. 5 during trump and now over 7 under biden. And, of course, mr. Biden wants to forgive student loans. Even though the supremes have ruled it unconstitutional. Plus, he wants to increase a refundable earned income tax credit and a refundable Child Tax Credit and a permanent expansion of supersized obamacare. Subsidies. And the biden climate war against fossil fuels continues while he does nothing to solve the open border war against Illegal Immigrants and the illegal immigrantrelated crime wave. Yes, mr. Biden was Still Standing at the end of his speech. But, no if, doesnt seem like hes doing a thing to make America Great again. And thats my riff for this evening. All right. Now well bring in the great Vivek Ramaswamy. Former 2024 president ial candidate. Vivek is, welcome back, as always. It was good to see you last night washington d. C. Let me play just a quick sound from mr. Biden. Quick sound from mr. Biden. Here it comes, vivek. All americans deserve the freedom to be safe, and americas safer today than when i took office. Larry well, thats my is, in your judgment, is america safer today than it was three years ago . Vivek ramaswamy . Absolutely not. Thats a lie, larry. And to the contrary, we have 10 million illegals who have entered this country and rising under bidens regime, thats what ill call it. Thats the Largest Scale violation of the rule of law that i think weve seen in modern american history. Many of those criminals, people whose first act upon entering this country breaks the law. It predicts theyre going to continue to break the law while theyre already here. Combine that with what were seeing in cities from chicago to new york, a wave of crime that actually even requires the new york governor to now talk about bring out the national guard, something President Trump said they would dismiss as dictatorial yet now they realize as potentially actually necessary. It veals that the state of the union we saw last night was orwellian in nature. Say one thing when, in fact, the opposite is true. And i do think the American People now are attuned to see through that smoke screen, and i think many of them especially in the cities, larry, will do just that. Larry i mean, i would have thought if he was serious about crime, first of all, he has a plenty of executive authority. You and i talked about that. Hes got 212f and 287g, both laws stop people from coming in illegally, work with the local police to deport criminals, okay . He could have used that. Those are laws on the books for years. He didnt. Point number one. Point number two, hes not going to oppose any sanctuary cities. Point number three, he has made no effort to defend cops. This is another thing. Wheres the blue line . In all these cities, new york and chicago and San Francisco and elsewhere, biden, you know, he never seems to want to defend the blue line, the police or the firefighters. And his supporters are often a on the wrong side of the blue line. I think that dose part and parcel goes part and parcel with the fact that we are not safer than we were three years ago a. Well, it does. I think 212f and 287g are excellent points, larry, because these are tools that the chief executive of the country, the u. S. President , already has. Biden tried to make the case last night that they need new laws. We dont need new laws, we need a new who enforces the laws that are already on the books. 212f basically says the u. S. President has Broad Authority to set the criteria that other countries have to meet in order to send migrants to this country. The Trump Administration [inaudible] certain other countries need to have data points they need to provide, and if they cant provide them, people cant come from those countries. A reasonable step to talk. 287g effectively says that the 6,000 i. C. E. Agents can use about a million local Law Enforcement to serve their own warrants. These are tools that dont require congress to act. It requires the president to execute the laws of the United States. Which, as a reminder as if we need it, thats exactly what article ii of the constitution says the u. S. President not only has the authority to do, but has the responsibility to do. To execute the already existing laws of the United States. Thats where this president has failed. And so i think it is a myth, and weve got to be careful not to fall into this trap, them saying that the republicans arent going to pass some bill for the border. The real problem is if you dont have a president whos endorsing the draw enforcing the laws already on the books, we have no reason to believe that same president is going to enforce any new laws on the books either. Its another bait and switch, its another smoke screen, and its up to us to explain to independent voters why they shouldnt fall for that trick. And if we do a good job of that, larry, were going to win. What we saw in that state of the union is theyre going to deflect, lie, create a false mirage that if we are just complacent in our own right, thats a real risk. Larry one last one, vivek is, on this point of crime, lawlessness and, of course, the border collapse, why not end sanctuary or cities . This was a very bad idea to begin with. Look, i think that there are easy steps we can take. How do you end sanctuary cities . No more federal funding for a city that is paying for and sanctioning a breakage of rule of law. Mayors in other cities across this country regretting those decisions that were made. So one thing we can do on the right is rather than to point out the fact that they were wrong when they did it, lets actually celebrate it. When you have even democratic mayors that would say that was a mistake. If somebody made a mistake, theyre willing to own up to it and at least correct their behaviors, we should always be the one to say, you know what . We will cheer you on as you do it. It creates the incentive structure for more of them to do the same thing. End sanctuary cities, end birthright citizenship for the kids of illegals, end federal funding for Central America until each of those countries has done their part to blockade their own boards borders, militarize our own southern border, finish completion of the wall with. Our border crisis is solved. This isnt the stuff of rocket science. The country that put a man on the moon can get this much done. This is a challenge of will, will power, and its not going to come from biden. Its why we need to elect President Trump as the next president. We saw what happened with four years under trump. You laid it out well. Now we have four years under biden almost. Compare and contrast, if it comes down to that, this should be a landslide election. Larry its great, i love that. Vivek, its like lets not make in any if harder than it needs to be. There are a series of simple, straight forward steps that can be take. Anyway were out of time. Vivek ramaswamy, thank you ever so much, as always, for your gracious time. Appreciate it. All right, folks, coming up here on kudlow, we are a business show. We continue with todays february jobs report which was soft, okay . It was a lot softer than people thought. And then President Biden spun a web of economic falsehoods last night. So were going to have a little discussion about that with two the experts, our very own taylor riggs and breitbarts john carney. Theyll make sense, or try to make sense of something or other. Im kudlow. Ill try to make sense. Well be right back. Well be right back. L money coach in the chase mobile® app. Use it to set and track your goals, big and small. And see how changes you make today. Could help put them within reach. From your first big move to retiring poolside and the other goals along the way. Wealth plan can help get you there. J. P. 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The january bulge, not all of it, but much of it was taken away. Can you give us a quick riff . Right. The headline number looks good. The problem is the downward revisions for december and january which wiped out 167,000 jobs. So a lot weaker than we expect. I dont think people want to say that we dont trust the day da data, but its hard when you get the data, you have to wait a month or two to understand what whats really going on in the economy. I think some of the good news here for the federal reserve, they want to cut rates maybe in june because wage growth is decelerating. And so that is sticky. Wage inflation that a looks like it is slowing down larry lets really i screw the work force, get those wages down. Pretty soon we can turn them negative again hike they were. John carney, do you agree with taylor, first of all . Yeah larry softish . If not collapsing. Its not a recession report. No, its definitely not a recession report, and i dont think it gives the fed any room to cut, because if you look at the 3month average, its still 265,000 jobs per month. That is a lot of jobs created. That thats not a, oh, no, we need to cut. Even the moveup in unemployment to 3. 9 , thats still a very low unemployment rate. Weve just gotten spoiled because weve been down at 3. 7 for a little while. I think that while this was soft and it was and they took away a lot, even when you take away all of the jobs, first of all, we dont know if theyre going to come back. Because one of the things these revisions go both ways. A month ago they told us the december number was too low and and they revised it up. This month, no, no, were going to take it back down. Larry on these points, why cant the government get it right . If i mean, i think i know why in a general sense. Ive been in and out of this business for a long time including in government, but i think a lot of viewers, ordinary if folks who do not have economics, you know, analytic backgrounds or degrees or whatever scratch their head and they say, whats up with this . You know, are they lying to us . Is it political . Take a whack at that. A big problem is the Response Rates from businesses has gone way down. It was headed down prepandemic. It crashed after the pandemic. And so theyre just not getting a lot of businesses serving in the forms saying heres how many people we have onboard right now. And what that means is when they come back to businesses, because they go back again when they do the revision and say, no, really, can you fillet out this time . They do, and thats why they end up with this wild volatility. Larry taylor, you dont think the bureaucrats in the bureau of labor statistics are, quoteunquote, rigging the numbers . No, i dont think so. I think its a harder and harder to gauge the data. I would also say there is a huge divergence between the hard data versus soft data, what were hearing from consumer sentiment, what were hearing from people on the ground about grocery prices, about inflation. Theres a big divergence there. Larry and i want to raise one other thing just to complicate it. The nonfarm payrolls, these are the large corporations with Human Resource departments that answer the phone and either tell the truth or they dont. But the small businessoriented Household Survey from which unemployment is derived, all right . If a lot of the newspaper reports and media dont do it. Now, that things down three months in a row. Households are are down three months and three of the last four months. And the yearly average, john, is only 56,000. Now, that number, it is hinting at a downturn. Yes. But that typically gets revised towards the establishment numbe [laughter] isnt this great . So you would not i trust the establishment number. I think the household number probably going to come up. Larry its not all bogus. Nobody knows what. No. Look, they go ahead request. Well, no, i only want to say my only worry a little bit about this, i know that were spoiled. I grew up with 3. 5, 3. 7 unemployment. 3. 9 looks a little scary. You had a few fed speakers saying 4 unemployment start ises to get to the level where we do think about cutting, so the increase in unemployment is something that were watching larry are you kidding in i think thats insanity. 3. 9 unemployment i know, im spoiled. That used to be regarded as full employment. I know. Larry look, i want as many people to work as possible, and and i want the work force to make as much money as possible with a zero inflation rate, etc. , etc. But i seem to say 3. 9 unemployment means the fed should start cutting interest rates. If they do, theyre going to create a lot of Election Year friction. Im just saying, im warning. So far the fed s done good, played it by the book not too too bad. But the inflation targets have not yet seriously been met. John, i just want to what was the most egregious economic falsehood you heard last night in a speech full of economic falsehoods in. Right. We went through all night long last night on breitbart, we just fact checked, you know, an almost unlimited number of falsehoods. The worst one was when he said he eliminated the trade deficit. Larry oh, really . We used to import goods and now we just with, port them. Thats not true at all export them. And if you look at the numbers, by the way, the trade deficit is much higher than it has been under any president ever. It went down a little last year, but thats just because we were at the record highs the year before that and the year before that. Every year of bidens presidency has seen the worst trade deficit that there has ever been, and yet he has the nerve to try to claim that he got rid of the larry the other is, i dont want to put taylor on the spot. I just want to say though he keeps telling us one of his accomplishments is he cut the budget deficit by . 7 trillion. Hes carried that for years 1. 7. The Washington Post gave a bottomless by pinocchio on it, and he repeated it again last night. I know. Larry its pa. Pat endly not true. The patently not true. The cbo just put out projection its bigger. Larry its going to come in over 1. 7. He keeps saying this number. And this is definitely, i mean, we are talking, like, genz, millennials, and theyre saying were9 now realizing how much we have to bear the burden of the dumb spending thats a going on in government. If you have tiktok influencers talking about how dumb the spending is larry do genz kids work hard enough. Were trying to push em, larry. Larry i gotta i should have never asked that. [laughter] look at manufacturing jobs last night. By the way, in february they shrank by 8,000. He is not adding manufacturing jobs. Larry were going to have this again z discussion another time genz. Right now, john carney and taylor riggs, you both terrific. Dont forget, catch taylor with Jackie Deangelis and Brian Brenberg with on the big money show weekdays every day, 1 p. M. Eastern right here on fox business. And, folks, coming up, were going to change subjects a little bit. Chinese spy cranes conducting espionage if in america. This is some weird, farout story. You have to watch the chinese every inch of the way. It is exactly what we do not need. Plus, there he goes again. President biden is going to grow the economy by taxing rich people and waging class warfare. What a fine, unfine, stupid idea. Well talk about it with north dakota governor with doug burgum. 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Just for some context, yesterday the house energy and Commerce Committee voted unanimously to advance a bill that could effectively ban tiktok. It doesnt target the app directly, but it would allow the president to classify apps that are under control of adversarial countries as National Security threats. So in that case, it would ban the app unless it cuts ties with the country in question. Tiktok, of course, is owned by bytedance. In response to this bill, tiktok said, quote, this bill is an outright ban of tiktok no matter how much the authors try to disguise it. This legislation will trample the First Amendment rights of 170 million if americans and deprive 5 million Small Businesses of a platform they rely on to grow and create jobs. But it went further. So take a look at this. The Company Began showing users this message warning the bill would destroy the lives of creators, it then charged users with calling their representatives to protest the measure which they did in droves. The phone was ringing off the hook. Now, law a makers say this is just one example of how china could weaponize the app against americans. China is at war withs us. And they use tiktok as a weapon, or at least they can. This is the a serious National Security threat to the United States and to the privacy of every american. And we cant ignore it. Reporter the irony though is the Biden Campaign is using tiktok to reach young voters despite the app a being banned on government staff devices. The president even to reportedly met with tiktok influencers ahead of his state of the union address. Representative Steve Scalise is vowing to bring the bill to a vote as soon as next week, so we could with see some movement then. Larry many thanks, kelly ogrady. Appreciate the rundown. Lets stay on this china story. China spy cranes conducting espionage in america. This is also part of the story. Joining us now to talk about this and a couple other things we welcome back north dakota governor doug burgum. Governor burgum, thank you, sir, we appreciate it. You know, i want to get back to tiktok in a moment, sir, but theres a story breaking now. China using, you know, cranes, construction craning but theyve got little cameras on them to spy, and it just so happens coincidentally right near if military bases. And i want to add, sir, that when i was in the government, we saw the same thing. The chinese telephone company, which has since been banned, huawei used to build those old wooden telephone poles. Yes, right near if military bases in Northern California and i think the dakotas. And theyd is have tiny, little cameras on these wooden telephone poles which the fbi finally discovered. Now, i would say its time for us to do something about all this, wouldnt you . Well, absolutely, larry. Were in a cold war with china, and part of that cold war with china is not so cold because its a hot cyber war right now. And whether theyre collecting information on all the goods that are entering our country and where theyre going through observing cargo coming in through ports or whether it is with tiktok infiltrate thing its way directly into and collecting information around all of our citizens and all that video, this is part of an active strategy on their part. And thenning, of course, were taking mass casualties because of the fentanyl coming in from china, and weve lost five vietnams worth of citizens to overdose deaths. Its hard to say. Were really at war with them now. It just isnt a hot war, its a cyber war and its a cybersecurity war, and its an intelligence war. And that intelligence war, were an open society, and theyre winning. Theyre taking advantage of our country right now left and right. Not a surprise to me. My first trip to china as a business person, i was a kid in 1989. I walked into a Street Market, and there was the software that we had developed that was selling at a Street Market for a buck a disk when back here it would have been 25,000 in software. So for 30 years theyve stolen everything ive ever made in the software business, and we shouldnt be surprised. Larry governor, is it, in your your judgment, worth the fight in the respect to tiktok, lets go back to that one. I mean, if congress were to force its not an easy thing to do. We tried it in the Trump Administration. But if congress were to somehow force bytedance to divest of tiktok, now, i dont know if that solve ises the information problem solves the personal information problem, the software problem. But is that a fight worth making, in your judgment . Well, absolutely. In north dakota we banned tiktok on state devices several years ago a because it was clear then that this was an informationgathering tool for the chinese. And i think that this time its time that the federal government does something as well. And the fact that this is being weaponized today to say, look, dont shut down our tiktok and weaponizinging americans, i mean, we look through the whole hamas attack on israel, you look at the algorithms behind tiktok, and theyre push out all kinds of prohamas, proterrorism messaging thats influencing debates in america right now. Larry one other thing before i lose you regarding President Bidens speech last night and so forth. If hes going to grow the economy, governor burgum i know youre going to love this by taxing individuals, taxing businesses, taxing wealth. He wants to now go back to the unare realized Capital Gains tax. Lets just grow the economy by raising taxes across the board. What do you think about that . Pretty clever idea. Well, i think every day that joe bidens in office is a day where hes hurting our economy, hes hurting our National Security with open borders, hes trying to crush the energy business, and weve just got to get President Trump back in. As you described in this hour, the President Trumps economy was booming, and now, you know, my kind of gdp growth we have right now is actually just driven by all the federal spending. Thats whats juicing it right now. Thats whats driving inflation. We just dont have high and americans know that. Joe biden convinced no one last night because if youre half of the americans who actually have savings, you know that inflation came like a thief in the night and stole 30 of what youd worked hard to save in your life. And americans understand it, they feel it. But weve got to get back to having President Trump in the white house. And ill tell you, this thing that came out today, larry, the86 pages of regulation 886 pages of regulation from the sec thats going the force all company reporting related to Climate Change . If all these things hurt investment in the things that would actually help the environment. I dont know that anyone if understands economics in the biden administration. Theyre going exactly the wrong way on the economy, on energy and on National Security. The things that would help every american. Larry thank you. Governor doug burgum, as always, sir, we appreciate your time and point of view. Talk soon. Thank you, larry. Larry all right, folks, going to shift gears a little bit. The latest from the state of the union message, we heard this rumor the night before, President Biden is now going to use the u. S. Military, get this, to build a new Mediterranean Sea port in gaza. All right . Hes going to pull this off somehow. No casualties, no military involvement, or so he says. I dont get any of this. Joining us now, kash patel, former Deputy Director of national intelligence. Author of the book government gangsters. You got to help me on this. Were now going to commit u. S. Military personnel to build a port or a pier in the mediterranean, in gaza, and somehow thats not going to cause us to get involved on the ground and somehow hamas and other terrorist groups sponsored by iran wont try to attack us . Would you walk me through this . Because i dont get it. Great if to be with you, larry, and ill try. Look, i think this gives new definition to the meaning too cute by half. So now were not going to have boots on the ground, were going to have boots on wooden planks and plastic pillars floating off the territorial waters of a sovereign nation . When we talk about territorial waters, legally, that means the mile markers extend miles and miles out into the sea for a place like israel and other countries, every country in the world. Would we, the United States of america, allow south asia or african nations to assemble docks and piers in a territorial waters of the United States to deliver aid to inner city children . It would be illegal. It is an overt act of aggression by a nationstate that the United States would not tolerate. Why would this administration break the law, violate International Authority just to stand up a post that floats with United States soldiers to accomplish a political objective . I think thats what bidens doing. Hes further if utilizing the military. And when i was chief of staff at dod for President Trump, we would have never doning Something Like this. We would have shut down the problem at the source, which is terrorism. Larry this is vote getting in dear born, michigan, more than anything else. The idea, kash, youve been involved in this stuff, so we would set up this pier or whatever its going to to be, and it will not with attacked . If be attacked . You think the terrorists would just let are us do this willynilly . I find that farfetched. Or i think the odds are one way or another we would be putting American Military personnel and related contractors in harms way. Youre absolutely right. Going in reverse order there, this is putting American Military personnel, men and women in yawn form, in a in uniform, in a active theater of war, make no mistake about it. You cannot say, oh, were floating off the coast. If youre floating off the a coast of a nation at war, you are participating in that conflict if you are actively engaging either the enemy or your ally. And, of course, the terrorists, hamas, flush with cash from joe biden are going to perform some sign of theft operation or some kind of harm to american interests, because theyve done that continuously in the red sea. We lost two navy seals in the red sea, we lost a number of american soldiers thanks to joe biden and lloyd austins weaponization of the department of defense. And now we expect to believe them that they are going to keep us out of war with this floating flotilla . It is a ruse, and worse than anything else it is going to endanger american men and women for another war that joe biden allowed to occur on his watch. [laughter] youre right, its an absolute lie larry youre right, its an absolute lie. Whatever he tries to put lipstick on this pig. And the other thing, kash, whos going to distribute this, quoteunquote, humanitarian aid . Have not we learned that all the a ngos and the u. N. And all this stuff, theyre all prohamas . Yeah. Its not going to go to where its intended. Thats the biggest thing. We are going to spend billions of dollars building this, billions of dollars pouring in aid, and we are going to have no oversight and no insight into where it goes because, of course, theres no inroads into gaza for americans unless joe bidens going to attach soldiers to this aid. Larry incredible. Carb papa tell, thank you, all right . If kash patel, thank you. I learn from your wisdom. I tell you, this is the dumbest thing the i ever heard. Thank you ever so much. All right, folk, coming up, were going to ask a very simple, straightforward, direct question. Im going to ask the great steve hilton and former congressman doug collins whos going win the president ial election. I know who they want to win. But i want to ask em who they think is actually going to win. At this point in time. All right . If im kudlow. Well be right back. Byebye. woman what if my type 2 diabetes takes over . What if all i do isnt enough . Or what if i can do diabetes differently . vo now you can with onceweekly mounjaro. Mounjaro helps your body regulate blood sugar and mounjaro can help decrease how much food you eat. 3 out of 4 people reached an a1c of less than 7 . Plus people taking mounjaro lost up to 25 pounds. Mounjaro is not for people with type 1 diabetes or children. 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Lets create Customer Service in service of customers, with watsonx assistant. Ibm. Lets create. Larry all right, having some fun on a friday afternoon. Direct question, who is going to win the president ial election . Not who do you want to win, but who do you think actually will win and why many so lets ask steve hilton, my pal, fox news contributor, and doug colin, former georgia congressman collins. Gentlemen, welcome back. Steve hilton, ill start with you. Right now, right now, whos going to win and why . The president ial. Well, larry, youre a numbers guy, lets start with the numbers. The polls are very clear, very consistent. A lead for President Trump from roughly 2 points to 5 points in all the polls. A lead on all the issues, a lead on all the characteristics you look for in a president and a lead in all the battleground states. And the further pointer that id make point that id make is that historically polls have undercounted trumps support. So this is, if anything, an underestimate of where he is right now. Now, of course, polls, as all the pollsters tell us, are not the election, theyre not predictive, they just tell you where we are now. And so the crucial thing is that as we go forward towards the election, the Trump Campaign and the president himself are very disciplined about making clear the positive agenda he has. I know you agree very much with this and the criticism of biden, and those two things have to go hand in hand. And i think if he does that, i think theres every likely hood that these polls will likelihood that these polls will prove to be accurate. Larry but, doug collins, listen, i like the swing state polls, theyre a little more convincing. 25 in the general polls are not convincing. I regard that as a tossup. But, doug, i think to make this strong the trump case, he must stay on message. Issues message, okay . Taxes, spending, deregulation, drill, baby with, drill. The border, of course, crime, the war against the woke culture and and improving americas standing in the world. You follow me . I think hes had a messagebased campaign for the past year, doug, and hes done better than most, you know, almost i mean, its been the comeback of the year. It may be the comeback of the century. [laughter] it may be one of the greatest political comebacks in history. Hes messaged on issues. Larry, youre right about this. Im going to agree right now the snapshot in time of poll, the battleground states are the most important where where the trend is a happening. But i think this is a 2016 election. It is the 2016 election, this is why i think Donald Trumps going to win. In 2016 the democrats were all about [audio difficulty] larry we lost doug collins. Wait in there we go. Larry all right, go. Youre on. 2016 was about this legacy of obama and Hillary Clinton was going to come in and democracy around the world, doves flying, and they didnt really drill down into peoples pocketbooks and peoples concerns. Donald trump did that. Immigration, economy, world standing, putting america first. Thats what won that election. Think about what happened last night. Joe biden was vindictive, he was mad but he was still all over the place with his message. Were about democracy and fighting these maga republicans and Franklin Delano roosevelt coming to the congress to get us all fighting against these maga republicans. This big issue stuff. And yet he never talked [audio difficulty] larry see, steve were having a little trouble with doug. Steve hilton, come back to you, if youre still there with me. Is steve still with me . Yes. Larry all right. Just want to make this point in the last seconds. What doug collins is saying is right. But, steve hilton, joe biden showed a lot of energy too much energy. Bellicose last night. But he did show energy, he was standing at the end of it, and he did hit on the democratic issues. I dont like their issues, okay . Ive said this a million times. I dont think you do either. But ill just say one thing, this elections not over yet. Biden in some sense last night, steve hilton, did what he had to do. Ill give you the last word. Oh, yes, he did. He dispelled the talk of replacing him which was very strong in democrat circles privately. Now, if you believe in the general election hes a fundamentally weak candidate, thats good news for republicans. But i want to really amplify what you said and what doug was saying, because in 2016 this is what people forget. They talk about trump trump the showman and the rallies and all the rest of it. It was an ideas and policybased campaign. Larry yes. The key messages, build the wall, china larry yes. No, no, gotta yeah. The the working man. 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