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Republican candidates apart from few headtohead explosions that we could have done without, there was more agreement on issues than disagreement, energy, inflation, over regulation, wokeness. China warnings. Biggest division was probably over ukraine. You could be unfair. And say there were no magical moments lines, but you know they are hard to come by, here is one memorable line from Ronald Reagan to remind everyone of what a memorable line sounds like. Governor reagan is against such a proposal. Governor, there you go again. Larry that one is still playing 40 years later. At different points in the debate, i think each of the candidates had their moment, i know that pundits are scrambling to pick winners and losers, but i dont think that anyone stood out, there may be some minor polling hiccups here and there, but the big picture does not change, former President Trump is still the overwhelming favorite to win g. O. P. Nomination. I dont think that debate last night, changes mr. Trumps front running status. I was disappointed that no one struck me as a real commander and chief for the economy. No one really blasted the Big Government socialism of bidenomic, nor did anyone make a clear case for a return to Free Enterprise capitalism as an engineer of growth and prosperity, no one called for an across the board slashing of marginal tax rates to grow the economy at 4, 5 or 6 , i was disappointed. I dont think that anyone convinced voters that the g. O. P. Will absolutely be the best stewards of growth and prosperity. There was snippets here and there, but no comp h comprehensive plan, no oomph. No medium rare stake that was so good i wanted to take home some slices and share it with my little doggy. I did have a couple of favorites to share, for example senator tim scott, bravely attacked Great Society welfare spending, he believes was so damaging to africanamerican families. Here is the challenge. Black families survivor slavery, we survived pole taxes and l literacy tests and discrimination woven into the laws of the country. What was hard to survive was jo johnsons Great Society where they decided to put money or they decided to take the black father out of the household to get a check in the mail and you could n measure that in unemployment, crime and devastation. If you want to restore hope, restore the family, restore capitalism and put americans back at Work Together as one american family. Larry wow. You know, i that is heavy stuff. I loved what tim scott did. I agree with senator scott, i think by the way that data expef expand evidence supports his view. That was a great moment probably no one will really talk about it liberal meadial hate it, kudos to tim scott for say that closest thing i saw to a comprehensive Economic Growth plan from Vivek Ramaswamy. We need to deliver Economic Growth in this country. Unlock american energy. Drill. Frack. Burn coals, embrace nuclear energy, put people back to work by no longer paying them more money to stay home, stabilize the u. S. Dollar, and rescind majority of the unconstitutional federal regulations that are hampering our economy. Larry that was well said and well packaged in a night brief moment, good for vivek, i dont think that others disagreed with him, he put it together in a strong, hardhitting fashion. Debates dont decide primaries, polls dont. Only Voters Decide primaries, and nobody has voted yet, were early in the nominating process, all right. Frankly, i dont think that last nights debate changed the fact that former President Trump has a very strong hold on the republican party. And that is my riff. That is my view. So, my brief thoughts but talk about it more. With our expert experts, they are not in california. Im very lonely. Ill get over it. Mark simone, wor radio show host. And john carney, breitbart economics. And joe concha, columnist at the messenger, fox news contributor. And his book, come on man. I love that. All right mark, you heard my thoughts. What did i miss, am i wrong, did last night change anything . Or are there hiccups or what . Im not as positive as you are about last night, you gave them the perfect setting, magnificent Reagan Library with fox business network, most classy network. And they were yelling and screaming and interrupting and jumping up up and down like bad game show contestants, nobody moved the needle last night, in anyone benefited maybe Vivek Ramaswamy because they kept hitting him, maki make it seem he was the frontrunner, Chris Christie has to drop that thing about trump say coward. We have watched what donald trump has gone through in the last through months few months, no one think hes is a coward. Larry nikki haley had good points, but she las a school marmish way of slapping down, she did it to vivek and a couple others. I dont know where that is coming from, i dont think that helped her. I think last night, probably hurt her position. She has a mine streak mean streak in her, she getting a great job from donald trump, then leaves and writes a book calling him a racist. The next thing you know she is his friend, down trust her i dont trust her, the fact that vivek is using tiktok on not most outrageous thing in the world, he has a point it is a great way to com communicate, there may be things wrong with him, but dumb is not one of them. Larry joe concha weigh in on how the saw the debate. Doesnt change anything, im in agreement there last nights debate felt like watching playing game to make it in ncaa tournament. Without donald trump there and were more than 3 months from iowa, there is a feeling of inevitability. Two polls came out this week, first one has trump up by 10 over biden, second from messenger with trump up by 5, and were seeing trump is now favors to beat biden in general according to real clear politics betting average, the trend is real, to your point, how do they stand out and draw contrast with donald trump, they agree with him on almost every issue on the economy how to lower inflation, and secure u. S. Southern border, get power back to parents in education and make people feel safer. There is no real contrast, and trumps base is so loyal, you cant use argument he is not electable and i am, how do you make inroads atthispoint. Larry they are great points, theyre go the common sense points, john carney. After the first debate, you wrote a great piece saying inflation was number one issue, but the republican did not talk about inflation, then you followed up with a f piece about the economy, how many times did you hear inflation or the economy . John, did they get to the meat and potatoes of why bidenomics is a total failure. They did a little better this time. Than last time. It came up, part was Stuart Varney began with the economy. Focus on something important. The candidates did an okay jojob, a couple of times. But they really should have driven home the point on inflation a lot more, there are so many issues that tie box to inflation ties back to inflation, i was reading Ronald Reagan from 1980, he explained to people very well, that inrates were so high because inflation was so high, housing was unaffordable because Interest Rates were so high, important points to draw the connection to voters, do you know why you cant afford a house . Because Interest Rates are so high, do you know why Interest Rates are so high . Because bidens inflation drove them so high, a point that a republican candidate could make, i did not her hear any of them make that point, you said, Vivek Ramaswamy did a good job of drawing together the plans but no one else did. Larry i agree with you, listening on your critique, i dont think they got to the Kitchen Table to the worrisome nature. The pocketbook issues, prices are rising faster than wages, that is what the uaw strike is about. That is a generic problem across the board, that is why joe biden has whatever 25 Approval Rating on the economy. Because people are getting killed. And gasoline and food and the rest, i just, they didnt get there, there were snippets. You know, vivek put it together good. But i also, you know, mark simone, i want a full blast, full bore bidenomics is Big Government socialism to use Newt Gingrichs phrase of a year ago, newt will be on the show a little bit later, a fullfloated support of Free Enterprise economic capitalist, go for it, that is why democrats are socialists, we want to know that republicans are will stay on the capitalism path because that is about what will restore growth, i didnt hear. I would like to pound it. I dont know, maybe im asking too much. You are not, you this is what you want in a debate, you looking for a big plan, you need someone big to do that. Donald trump said, he didnt see a president up there. They are not big enough president ial enough and frankly they are a collection of good middle managers, not a ceo in the bunch yet. Larry the commander in chief larry, my favorite line of the night didnt come from the debate stage, it was donald trump saying that in his administration the gas engine will be legal and transgender surgery will be banned. This was a great line it brought together the Economic Issues facic the facing the country and cultural issues. That is why he is frontrunner. Larry you are right, he does it in a way nobody else does, like the cnn debate he said drill, baby, drill. Joe concha, i like my debaters to really debate like oxford union in england or something, i like them to slam, bang, to really Slaughter Joe biden. Take no prisoners. Call him every name in the book. Show this and show that. That is what is missing. There is like this, like your book, the title three lines how bad biden is, that is they should have used the title of your book. Go ahead. Barborrowing from Ronald Reagan. I fought his line against thought his line against carter was better when me said are you better off when you were 4 years ago, america are you better off than you were 2 1 2 years ago, a overwhelming majority would say no, and then question do you think that joe biden will get better or worse with age into a second term, almost all will say no, ask those two questions that is an easy choice to make. It is. All right. Well, life goes on. Primaries, polls the first primary very first voting in iowa in 4 months, joe c concha thank you, mark simone thank y you. And john carney thank you. Well have more thoughts on the story from great congressman d Byron Donalds and the Oversight Committee is meeting. Well had byron that stuff when kudlow returns. Come out visit the Reagan Library, you will learn and you will read, you will think about the gippers. I am kudlow, im glad i served him just for a little bit. Three years. In just a few clicks. 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Talking about todays impeachment hearing, new evidence, money laundering, textmessages bank records what can you tell us about what popped up. Today we had organized on focus on information in congress, craziest thing is democrats didnt want to talk about evidence that we brought, they wanted to talk about everything else, that means they know this is really bad for joe biden. We believe we laid the foundation for going to get bank records and other Financial Information to now track the flow of money from the businesses to hunter biden and through hunter biden to family members of the biden family, in my view including joe biden himself. That is where going with this, if that where evidence leads us you have what you need are in grounds for article of impeachment. Larry one of the piece of the evidence coming out, bank records that were sent to joe bidens home in wilmington, delaware, when it was supposed to go to hunter biden but hunter biden was in the west coast in l. A. , they sent it to joe bidens home. To me that sounds indicting, but i dont know is that a big deal . It is a big deal. Larry, im 44 years old, i love my mom, if i had a wire payment coming in, it would not going to her in brooklyn, new york, i dont live there, that makes no sense to me, that is what is bringing up the issues, this stuff does not add up, well continue to do our work not like nancy pelosi and democrats not just rush to judgment. The evidence will dictate this, impeachment is so serious for our country that we have to make sure we have this completely right with all of the facts on the table. Larry 100 agree, byron. There is other stuff that has come out two more senior irs agents came out last week, they backed up earlier wiwhistleblower irs agents regarding Justice Department interference and other tax matters. And in wall street journal im reading, the woman who testified at your committee who used be to in Justice Department for tax policy said that hunter biden may be liable for all of the back taxes he did not pay and statute of limitations will not apply. Listen, i think she is correct, here is a question for the president. Why dont you care about your son paying his fair share, you are always talking about everyone else, he should pay his fair share as well and the fines and interest, this is how hypocritical this family is. Because they will lecture everyone else about taxes mean while they knew that hunter biden was skipping out on the tack man taxman they didnt care. Larry it may catch up to them, that story is not over, Foreign Agent registration story is not offer either, that will probably tie together with top joe, there may be an important vote tomorrow on funding bill. We had speaker Kevin Mccarthy on the show last night, i thought it was interesting he is tying Border Security with the funding bill, he spoke out on the catastrophe on the border. Do you support that approach during reckon a vote will pass or are we facing a shut down. I do support the approach, at the end of the day the southern border must be secured, we have not continue to fund a jackson government that will will not do its primary job, if we have a resolution where you are cutting spending in a meaningful way and securing our southern border, i could vote for that. What is the senate at prerogative, give 6 million to ukraine, that say joke, what is the white house promos alomar money out of the proposal, more money out of the door, not worried about the anon inflation, House Republicans are those with a solution, i support them, were still going to go through the process of passing appropriation bills here in the house, we have to klein clean up the rot that is in our forward agencies. Larry regular order, regular budget order 12 appropriation bills, you talk to me about need for transparency, the taxpayers can see what is going on. No big omnibus bill. So, you can get a cr, vote is tomorrow, 30 or 45 days that gives you time for the appropriation and includes board of securiti measure, can a cr pass. Honestly well see, i would not support 45 days, that is too long. 30 days is longest i will go, one thing that i been this town, you have to hold their feet to the fire to get stuff done, i think that 30 days will be enough, we have a ton of work to do were just getting started. Larry all right, congressman Byron Donalds thank ythank you always. Americans want to cut spending. Did we hear that last night . Not sure there was enough of that. Newt gingrich has written a strong oped piece about this, then well ask mr. Wonderful, kevin oleary if last nights debate was bullish or bearish for the stock market. How did tying those looseneds together, all that when kudlow returning from simi valley at the Reagan Library. Moving forward with node positive Breast Cancer is overwhelming. But i never just found my way; i made it. And did all i could to prevent recurrence. 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So when i first started golo, i was expecting to lose around 40 pounds and then i just kept losing weight, and moving and moving and moving in a better direction. With golo and release, youre gonna lose the weight. Larry all right, fiscal battles in washington, amidst debates americans want to cut spending, that according to Newt Gingrich in a oped piece, we ask real story of the republican revolution, more speaker, Newt Gingrich, first, your oped was great about cutting spending, did we get enough of that in debate last night, and i want to ask, i carried the idea of Big Government socialism, you unveiled i dont know two years ago, plus, i wanted too hear a fullflothroat e ed attack, you are started about these than i am what to you think. No, i had the same feeling. To be honest, i thought that trumps speech in michigan was more important than the entire debate. Because he had big ideas, he outlined a case, he made it in a convincing way. I think that part of our problem right now is that everyone floats on the headlines and they dont dig down into what is really needs to be done. We should have had last night, a talk about affordability, which is really what the average person experiences inflation has and a take about Economic Growth. Which is only way you can save Social Security and medicare, talk about about shrinking the government. Someone on the stage should have attacked this senate deal, i think that is terrible. For a continuing resolution that spends 6 billion on ukraine. Zero on controlling the border, and does not cut a penny. That is a total sell out. I think that the American People as you know from my article, we run a project called americas new majority project, people can find. In the web site, our data, we do every two weeks national poll, it is very 71 of country wants to cut spending to bring down inflation and balance the think about. The country over 55 is willing to have a government shut down if that is what it takes to cut and ending, the gap between the American People and the washington elites, may be as big as it has ever been in my lifetime. Larry you know, newt, regards last nights debate, to your points, you would hear snippets of it but not a fullthroated argument to restore Free Enterprise capitalism which is the engine of 4, 5 or 6 growth that would help solve the entitlement and reduce debt burden and whatnot. I kept waiting, really slam, you know bidenomics delivers to be slammed. I didnt hear that, it was there. Newt, but it was not full. They were too busy taking pot shots at each other. I dont know, i dont think it changed a thing. Well, in my mind, i watched both debates, our conclusion after last night was basically that is over. Now body will break out, nobody will be particularly aggressive. I think that desantis has a great story in florida. I think tim scott is a wonderful u. S. Senator. I think that nikki haley has a lot of good things to say. But you back out of, that you look at it, none of them will over take trump, trump will be the nominee. And i actually think this should be last debate just lets go on accept the fact that trump will be the nominee and figure out how do we meet biden and win beat biden and win senate and increase the majority in the house, i think wastes next 6 months dancing around makes no sense, hun hundred of them can 91 of them can breakthrough, if they are not prepared to look American People in eye and say, here is how sick of system is, here is what has to be done to fix it, if we fix it here is how your pay goes up, your future is better and help safe Social Security and medicare, well be stronger than china. If they cant do that, then the back and forth looking like 7th graders in a bad play does not help anyone it is demeaning. You know, newt, 100 . I wanted to hear more reagan, fullthroat reagan. You know, you i worked with reagan, you did in white house diaz a i did, as a member of congress, you never heard reagan try to be someones else. I want reagans ideas, we stood on reagans shoulder on the contract that something that reagan of for. That generation this generation needs its own new version of leadership, which is what trump has been giving it, and this generation needs to c to come to grips with the fact that the world as changed. If reagan were alive, and running he would have same core philosophy but applying it in a very different world. You look at flash mobs in philadelphia and fentanyl killing more people than vietnam war and borders that are a i think a deliberate disaster, an article, a town of 75 thousand made up in of Illegal Immigrants outside of houston. This stuff is nuts. And someone needs to be prepared to say, this is crazy. And this is how well fix it. Larry yeah. I agree, well said, newt. We could talk to you forever, but have i to jump out, ever so much, appreciate it. Up next, joining us my pal kevin oleary. Shark tank investor, and author of cold hard truth on business, money and life. So kevin, astute investor that you are, watching the Republican Debate did you buy to knows and tons of stocks tons of stocks or sell stocks. I am a policy guy, i look for policy, that is what i care about, that is how i invest, you never make money in politics, you make money on policy. I didnt get any policy im disappointed, i understand why. I dont think that anyone scored any killer punches in this. Im not sure polls advanced for anyone, i thought nikki haley had some interesting moments, but does this translate to into kind of delta in her polls . I dont know, i think you know, unless something happens over the next two debates, i think they will keep going. It will get difficult, basically, running out of time. January is not that far. And we dont have any momentum anywhere. There is no everyone is a critic of the next morning after a debate. Wow do we need some policy, like throw me a bone on policy, give me somet something gnaw on, i got nothing, wow. I have to to it got borin. Larry it did, you have to Committee New york, and sit with me on the set, so you can talk policy with me. I am in new york, where yare you. Larry i am in seem simi valley, california, were fly back tonight, well get together and talk polipolicy. I agree. Were close to 100 dollars a barrel oil. Okay . The longterm Interest Rates have been rising. The 10 year went through 460, yesterday i dont know if it is holding today. Interest rates up, stocks down. What do you think here about stocks and the economy and Interest Rates and oil prices . Lets deal with oil, two sectors of the economy that affect all 11, that is Financial Services and energy. Lets deal with oil at a hundred bucks or north. This is where you get concern that it is changes input costs for all sectors. Every sector that makes product or Services Needs energy. Some more than others, even pharmaceuticals need oil as input cost goes up it inflates the cost of making the goods and services that makes inflation sticky, that is the longterm problem, shortterm, any politician dealing with 4 gasoline a gallon is going to have a hard time, that is the trigger point, when voters go to pump see the price and get for lack i cant say, they get unhappy. That is basically bread and energy, if you play a lot for protein and food and your gas prices are high, ieveryone wants to spin this out of Inflation Numbers its not core, it is core, everyone fills up their tank, they get really mad it will happen in next 90 days. Larry oil prices permeate the entire economy there are like 300 different sectors that Refined Petroleum products affect that includes food and all that, you cant overlook, that economists are so wrong on that, you are worried about it . I am, i was in dc yesterday banging the drum down the halls of the hill, i do it almost every month now talking to any senator, congressman or woman what will talk to me, say were not doing to self this until we produce 18 Million Barrels a day, it is simple math, lets talk about what well do to fix this. Because it is the core of prosperity. And everyone gets it. It is not that hard to sell, i dont care if you are a democrat or a republican, they get the joke. And i keep saying, you guys write the policy, now right the policy. Lets get this thing going, and i have a hidden agenda, let me build my refineries and get going in north dakota and texas, i will bring you new stuff that works. Give my a permit, let me go, im just one guy, set me free. Larry liberate, it is common sense, the whole country knows this, honest to god out side of the administration and democratic party, 30 seconds, market Interest Rates are rising . Bond is up to 4. 60 and something will it go to 5 . What is the economic impact. Simply, rates look sticky, they are be higher longer and idea that fed will drop them, i dont think they, we have 50 bases points more, stocking cant move higher with this real trade in a range, you make 5. 25 on your cash that pretty good, i have a lot of cash making good interest while i wait the fed, everyone else. Larry y thank you, kevin oleary speaking good common sense. Thank you, larry. Larry all right, my last question about the debate. Where was t tax talk . Well talk with Grover Norquist, president of americans for tax reform when kudlow returns. Ive never been healthier. Shingles doesnt care. But shingrix protects. Proven over 90 effective, shingrix is a vaccine used to prevent shingles in adults 50 years and older. Shingrix does not protect everyone and is not for those with severe allergic reactions to its ingredients or to a previous dose. An increased risk of guillainbarre syndrome was observed after getting shingrix. 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Larry so republicans on oh, occasion talked about a growing economy last night in spirit of Ronald Reagan, what about cutting taxes . Joining me now, Grover Norquist, president of americans for tax reform, welcome back, we had a tiny taste of tax talk. Here is nikki haley with as much as i could find. Lets focus on going after Middle America and cutting tacts for Middle America and collapses the brackets get rid of unfair distortions like state and local tax they give to health i people in blue states and not and paid by rred states and make the Small Business taxes permanent. They made them temporary. Lets focus on about what it takes to get more cash in the pockets of workers. Larry all right. So grover, you know it was kind of there. Not exact pl plly there. You are the expert. What do you think . Well, since the republicans have an advantage on the economy, of 21 margin, greater than just about anything else, the republicans should have only talked about tax cuts and economy growth and deregulation, it should have been their goto position biden is proud of bidenomics, that is taxing things you want to do, banning things you want to have and s subsidizing things you dont care about, that is bidenomics, they put new taxes on life staving drugs and on energy. These taxes need to go away. The ones on energy. We need too take the corporate raise the down to 14 , and reason why 14 is important is europeans to say, no one should go less than 15 . Were not letting europeans tell us what our tax rate should be, he started shooting at them last time they did that in 1776, we set our own tax rates we should competeo low tax rates not low waged. Larry the whole personal tax rate, system, top rate still 37, you have 5 brackets, should we just have a clean up slam the rates down reaganstyle, consolidate the rates that supply side reform . I am not hearing that, not any of that. Here is what you are hearing it in the states. 12 states have a flat rate income tax, 7 are zero. 19 states that have a single rate tax. People like the flat rate, they trust it they think it is fair. The argument that we should be concerned about taking it nationally look, people are there is another 12 states moving to zero. So, the idea of takes individual rate down to top end rate down to a single rate tax, and moving that down, that is very popular state by state. I think that people would find it popular nationally. Larry you are right, all missed opportunities, last night, all of them missed. Grover, one of your articles, you are challenging desantis about taxes. I am sure he is for lower taxes but he let the Corporate Tax in florida go up. He had a chance to keep it down. But, he didnt take that. And it went to 5 at one point it was the low as 3. 5. The Corporate Tax is important. It is. It needs to come down, desantis shares an adviser wit romney, he is having similar success with it the thing he put out we should money maintain our low rates, i dont think that American People view our press sent tax rates higher, we have high tax rates that need to come down that need to be front and center by every one of our candidates, taking taxes off of the take table is one way to lose president seize. Are right. What the states are doing you are right. Missed opportunity on this last night. Absolutely Grover Norquist thank you. Wild get there. Larry ill be well get there. Larry ill be right back with my last word. My relationship with my credit cards wasnt good. I got into debt in college, and no matter how much i paid, it followed me everywhere. The high interest. I felt trapped. 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