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Coney barrett to the supreme court. With us tonight on all the major headlines, much, much more. Harmeet dhillon, ken starr, joe concha, Kelly Armstrong and acting Customs Border protection commissioner mark morgan. Here are the new developments of the day. Critics are slamming president for pressuring the attorney general to act on the hunter biden laptop email story. That story is getting hits from critics over credibility problems. Rudy giuliani says even more hunter biden documents will drop, as New York Post shows joe biden meeting with Hunter Bidens businessman in kazakhstan despite him saying he didnt know anything about his sons business dealings. 50 officials that suspect the hunter pien emails are, cant say either way whether the biden emails are fake. More on intercepts glen greened walled the Mainstream Media cone of silence on the hunter biden story. The media has a long time reporting that biden es leveraging greatest asset, joe bidens maim. That happened around the world from romania, ukraine. Well show you how that compares to the accusations of trumps family dealings. Also growing criticism of democrats ignoring how migrants lives are put in danger from illegal border crossings, put in danger by human and drug traffickers. Thank for joining us. Im elizabeth macdonald. The evening edit starts right now. Elizabeth okay. Look who is here. Look who is back with us harmeet dhillon, trump 2020 Advisory Board member. Harmeet, always great to have you back on. There is blowback against the president pressuring the attorney general to appoint a special prosecutor on the biden laptop email story before the election. Critics say thats wrong. Frank luntz, an election watcher. Says it is a mistake only campaign on the bidens. Other people say the Trump Campaign is not doing that. When you heard the headlines, what was your first response, what was your reaction . First i would say that the president is by far not only campaigning on the bidens, i would say it is not being mentioned enough. The president talking about his record. This is part of a referendum on his record. He has done a tremendous job growing our economy but the biden story cannot be ignored. It is not just because of the implications for the next four years. Crimes may have been committed in our country by the biden family and by his son pedaling access for whatever his reasons were. We know all the state, foreign oligarchs, kleptocrats you mentioned from other countries this is sell being access to our country and the white house. That could be a crime so that needs to be investigated for the integrity of our entire system of government. Elizabeth you know the debate is coming thursday night. The Trump Campaign objected about the mute button. Theyre objecting that the debate is not traditionally customarilily about Foreign Policy. It will be about National Security. Senators ron johnson and senator lankford said that the fbi should debrief the senate on the National Security concerns over the biden story. How should the president handle this at the debate on thursday night . The way that the entire debate situation has evolved this year has been very disappointing and i say that as a republican. I know republicans agreed to this format but never again should we agree to let the left and liberal reporters control this process. Cutting off the president potentially which is what the democrats apparently want to do during this important last debate is terrible. We need to be hearing from each of these candidates what their vision is. So in terms of that question regarding briefing the senate, yes, the fact that a person close to the Vice President was selling access to the white house and in fact we see photographs with some very shady foreign characters with joe biden in different locations, we need to get to the bottom of that, in terms of disinformation, yes, i am concerned that foreign governments are targeting family members of the, of the bidens, the potential future president. All of that needs to be briefed. If the debate moderator will not ask the important questions on everybodys mind, i am confident that the president is going to throw those questions and put joe biden to the test. Even though there is two minute clock. There will be six minutes of unclocked, uninterrupted discussion time where they hopefully can exchange views during each segment. Im pretty sure the president will ask some hard questions. Elizabeth yeah. We were expecting the president is going to say that voters have a right to know how, whether or not joe biden was ever compromised by the business dealings involving his family. It is not just his son hunter but his brothers and others too. Well dig into that in the next segment. When you saw that more than 50 former intelligence officials who worked for four president s including under President Trump, when you saw they signed a letter this looks like russian disinformation but then they admitted they dont know for sure, cant say either way, the question, anonymously sourced stories saying this is russian disinformation when there is no proof of that yet, when the Biden Campaign has not denied the laptop. They have not yet to deny the validity of the emails, when you see this coming from letter, signed by obama era intelligence officials like john brennan and james clapper, when you see those stories out there do you that there is any way the media will push further on this story to get to the bottom of what happened with joe biden and his family . Well, no, i dont expect the media to push harder because the media gets its talking points from the very people that betrayed their oath to our country. I say that not lightly but the very same people are saying oh, my god russian disinformation, they said the same thing about President Trump, they said it knowing that was not true. Why would he be surprised they are saying this . Im just a simple country lawyer, elizabeth in a courtroom, somebody coming with an affidavit signed like 50 people with no personal knowledge, the judge would throw that out as totally incompetent. It is not evidence of anything other than their bias and their support for joe biden and willingness to do it by any means necessary. But the most shocking thing here is how big tech has suppressed truthful reporting on this very scandal and it may be too late for this senate and this congress to do anything about it boy, what a missed opportunity if were not able to hold them accountable for lying to the American People that way. Elizabeth well, the question is, you know, the media including the new york times, Washington Post, the wall street journal, they have all been unable to verify the New York Post report on Hunter Bidens overseas influence peddling. The question how the social media handled that story but should journalists stop digging once they hear it is russian disinformation . Should you keep going . Because russian disinformation too is a crime. Shouldnt people try to get to the bottom of it just as journals tried to get to the bottom of the steele dossier and the general flynn story . Absolutely. Of course they should. In our proud history in the United States, im a First Amendment lawyer, journalists have been responsible for getting to the bottom of some major coverups in our country, major crimes, pollution issues, abuse of children, abuse of human beings in trafficking. Why are they abdicating their responsibility and their tremendous power in this critical time . Shouldnt we all like to know if there are members of any political family in the United States who have been compromised . If there are politicians running for the highest office in our country who have taken bribes . That is the allegation. Not to put a fine point on it. Has joe biden to benefit his son or himself financially compromised his position . Let thugs or criminals or crooks into the white house or into his orbit, done favors for them almost certainly seems to be the case for the burisma situation . People need to know one way or the other. If were a good reporter you wanted joe biden to win you would help him out and assuring that the emails are fake. That the people who are on them did not actually send them or receive them but theyre not doing their jobs. Theyre directly suppressing all of this information. By doing so theyre destroying their credibility as supposed objective arbiters of the truth and information. Elizabeth you know this story is not going to go away. Remember the Clinton Whitewater story, the rum trumprussia collusion story which has been out there for four years. This story will not go away. The republicans will go after it, right harmeet . Absolutely. Boy this story is just Getting Started liz. Well hear a lot more about it. Well hear shady characters come up over coming days. Harmeet dhillon, thanks for joining us. Comeback soon. Thanks, liz. All right. Elizabeth former independent counsel ken starr with more on this debate. The more than 50 former intelligence officials who suspect hunter biden emails are russian disinformation, they cant admit either way what it is and whether or not the emails are fake . Ken starr will take this on next. He will break it down. Stay with us. President trump did you see shifty schiff . We think this laptop was made by russia. Oh, owe, he is just said it was made by russia. Here we go again. Russia did it. Russia, russia, russia. You know, the head of dnjohn cat cliff came out and said that was false information. O, the only one of its kind proven to help you live o, significantly longer when taken with fulvestrant, regardless of menopausal status. And its the only one of its kind you can take every day. 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And i want more of them. Ask your doctor about everyday verzenio. Elizabeth okay. Lets welcome back to the show former independent counsel ken starr. Ken, it is always great to have your perspectives and insight. When you saw that more than 50 former intelligence officials, it is great to see you. 50 former intelligence officials, more than 50 who worked for more than four president s including President Trump, you saw they signed a letter, the hunter biden story, laptop email story looks like russian disinformation, but they cant say either way, they dont have evidence of that, they dont have h know if the emails are fake, is this throwing accelerant on the story . What was your reaction on the story . My reaction it was a political act. It was not really an act of professionalism objective. Lets analyze the documents. Now lets look at the Vice President s calendar. Ah, there is something here that just doesnt seem right and it looks like it is russian disinformation. So i think it was an act in the Political Campaign and they should be ashamed and they should simply say, look, lets find out. Lets track it down. There are ways of doing that. Lets get the job done. Elizabeth you know Glen Greenwald at the intercept, has been saying that the cia, nsa, are manipulating the American People, putting anonymous information, anonymously sourced information into stories saying this is russian disinformation when providing no proof of that. Dni ratcliff says no proof of that. The conclusion where the mind comes to rest. It is russian disinformation, lets not look into that. Lets continue to not verify the story. Is that looks what is going on . It appears to me. Dont bother me with the fact information. I see inconvenient facts or may be facts. The call should be lets investigate, lets find out, is it authentic or is it not . As it was just said if it is disinformation, there are people committing crimes. Certainly civil actions are appropriate but from what little ive seen, and we have not seen all that much, there are a lot of i would call it indicia of reliability. Im not saying jump to a conclusion but there are certain indicators this should be taken seriously. Instead of being dismissed out of hand. So i strongly disagree with the idea, well, it is russian disinformation. Lets bury our heads in the sand. Elizabeth yeah, because if you dont dig into it, if you dont you know, if it is russian disinformation thats a crime. That is election medaling. That should be pursued. If you leave it hanging out there as russian disinformation and you just let it go at that, then you can disis in the story as unverified, unproven and undercut it. We have obama officials john brennan, james clapper, they helped push the russian does say story. Isnt this sort of the same thing . It looks like it could be very close to that and instead of again shouting we dont want to look at this why dont we hear the shout, were interested in the facts . We want the facts to come out and lets assess the facts. We dont have to jump to any conclusions. We dont have to make any accusations against anyone but lets in fact take a profession attitude as opposed to a political attitude. But were in the election season. We need more professionalism and less politics. Were not getting it. There are truth seekers. Lets step back and say there are people on the beat, there are cops on the beat, i dont know what the fbi is doing, i dont know what the other parts of the Intelligence Community are doing but we do know in the fourth estate, in the media there are truth seekers. We need more of them. Elizabeth you know we, joe bidens tax returns, were still digging into them to see if there is any evidence of this. We do see that story about you know, hunter biden getting a deal with a former executives at china, nowdefunct Chinese Energy company where the emails indicated that 20 of that jointlyshared fund was going to be, 20 went for, punitively hunter biden and 10 for the big guy. We dont know if that is joe biden or not. Were digging into that. That is a may 2017 story. Right. Elizabeth i would like you to listen to former deputy independent counsel Sol Wisenberg with us last night on this. Listen to what he had to say about this. Watch this. I dont think he is going to do that. Im not sure he should. Im not sure the fbi should be involved in this close to an election in answering a specific question like that but you already had an answer from the director of National Intelligence which is very significant development, that is kind of being quasicensored by the Mainstream Press where he said there is no indication whatsoever this is russian disinformation. So im, im confused and im troubled by the outright censorship going on here. Where was the skepticism when the steele dossier came out in 2017 . And we heard about for years, about that when it was pretty obvious early on that it was ridiculous . Elizabeth ken, your thoughts on that . Bingo. Sol wisenberg just hit a proverbial home run. He is exactly right and everyone i think should listen carefully to what jon ratcliff, the dci is saying. Lets take this seriously. Lets find out. Elizabeth all right. Ken starr, thank you so much for joining us. Come back soon. You bet. Thank you, liz. Elizabeth next with us, you too. Next coming up the hill media reporter joe concha. He is going to take on this big story, the intercepts again greenwald. Glen greenwald said there is a Mainstream Media cone of silence around the hunter biden story or deny that the hunter laptop is false too. Well show you the long history how the media reported on the bidens leveraging their greatest asset, joe bidens name. They leverage it from around the world from china, to ukraine, from romania to iraq to costa rica and more. The story next. First of all adam schiff is seriously the most pathological liar in all of american politics that i have seen in all of my time covering politics and journalism. He just fabricates accusations at the drop of a hat the way other people change underwear. He is simply lying when he asserts over and over that the russians and kremlin are behind this story. He has no idea whether or not that is true. There is no evidence to support it introducing the allnew 2021 gla suv. Starting at just 36,230. Its the biggest thing that ever happened to small. Lease the gla 250 suv for just 399 a month at your local mercedesbenz dealer. Noand if youre troubledan a liby falls and bleeds,ners. Worry follows you everywhere. 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Were finding a long history of mead like abc, the new york times, Washington Post reporting on the bidens cashing in on the family name . Cone of silence. No, it is more like a pillow to the face, right . It is complete and total suppression, thou shall not even mention the story. If you share the story on social media, twitter and facebook made sure at least last week, that your account was locked out. Ask kayleigh mcenany, the White House Press secretary, ask the Trump Campaign. This is barely being covered there is no curiosity. Number one adjective to describe journalists in the past, okay, answering some very simple questions. Does the computer belong to hunter biden . Okay. Are the emails authentic . Because the Biden Campaign is not denying it. If they werent authentic, they would say theyre completely fabricated. That means joe biden lied he didnt talk to his son about any of his foreign dealings. Those are three very basic journalism 101 questions being asked at this point. But instead were seeing complete an total suppression of this. If joe biden is ever requested a question about it, sunday, he yells down the reporter and there is no condemnation from the media in terms of attacking the free press in terms of donald trump if he is unhappy with a question. Not just even suppression at this point, elizabeth. The boston globe has a headline out today, enough about hunter biden. What about ivanka trump . That is okay, the trump kids. In this case with hunter biden there seems to be pretty substantial evidence. I know it hasnt been verified. But isnt that the verify the information . I thought that is the job journalists are supposed to do, elizabeth. Elizabeth weve been looking into what the bidens have been doing. Not just hunter biden getting a consulting fee from mbna in early 2000s, while joe biden was helping mbna with consumer bankruptcy provisions, new laws that would stop consumers from discharging debt t has to do, with you know as nbc reported, you know, that hunter biden getting involved with a real estate tycoon in romania over a corrupt land deal. Construction deals in iraq. Land development in costa rica. The bidens cashing in on the biden family name has been a story that has been out there. How does this compare to the criticism that well, the president s family has been doing the same thing . It is interesting, right . Im old enough to remember the trump tower meeting that happened in 2015 that was reported a couple of years later. We were hear about indictments for donald trump, jr. And how that was the real smoking gun when donald trump, jr. And Jared Kushner had met with a russian lawyer who wanted to talk about adoptions but apparently that was something that dominated the news cycle for weeks. Suddenly journalists became very, there is this word, curious, everything that went on the meeting turned out to the be completely false as was the dossier as was mentioned on the show before. Important sounding dossier, sound like from a bond film. Without the dossier you dont have fisa warrants. The dossier doesnt even get into the Public Domain except the buzzfeed put whole thing out there without verifying as cnn that led to the special counsel investigation that ate up 2 1 2 years of this countrys time led to a show about nothing, like seinfeld. In terms of impeachment. Wasting all the time, instead of solving all the problems this country has and there are many. At this point huntington will not defend himself. He is told not to say a word. Joe biden is on a 96hour debate prep since sunday for a debate happening thursday night which you would think if youre in politics for 47 years you probably know your record by now where you stand on things but the Vice President hiding as well. You can say it is for debate prep. Sorry, it seems coincides with this story possibly getting bigger. Look, Glen Greenwald, elizabeth is exactly right. Lets be clear who Glen Greenwald is. The founder or cofounder of the intercept. He is not at cpac. He is quite to the left. Not just a complaining conservative about a story being covered he knows Good Journalism when he sees it. He says adam schiff is the most path lock logical liar in this country, hate to bring this up with the latest news cycle, adam schiff just in first year alone of Donald Trumps presidency, listen to these numbers, 227 tv interviews, 111 on msnbc,7 on cnn talking about russian collusion and proof he had. Have yet to the proof be presented, have we, elizabeth . He gets airtime and elizabeth i want to jump . That he is a pathological liar. Elizabeth lets listen to Glen Greenwald. You bring him up. He challenged journalists to say with a straight face, if you believe the emails of biden fabricated or otherwise fraudulently altered then say so. You know the bidens are staying silent about it. The fbi is staying aisle lept bit. Watch Glen Greenwald with Fox Newss Tucker Carlson saying here are basic questions that should be asked about this watch this. What makes it so much worse the reason the bidens are not answering basic questions about this story, basic questions like, did hunter biden drop that laptop off at the repair shop . Are the emails authentic . Do you deny that they are . Do you claim any are altered or any of them fabricated . Did you in fact meet with burisma executives . The reason they dont answer any questions because the media has signaled that they dont have to. That journalists will be attacked and vilified simply for asking. Elizabeth okay. Your final word, joe . If the president brings this up on thursday, joe biden will point to the press, say this has been disproven this is just aer. Campaign. Owe will run into a brick wall. Unfortunately unless there is a moderator to hold joe bidens feet to the fire when the president draws this out of him well be back. It is up to journalists to pursue the story. No one is up to the task, elizabeth. Elizabeth that is an important point about the moderator. Joe, great to have you on, okay . Pleasure is always on this side of the camera. Elizabeth sure. A special programing note were having on with us tomorrow night, the intercepts cofounder Glen Greenwald. He will be my special guest on the evening edit. Just ahead, Kelly Armstrong from house judiciary. Well break down the extent of the bidens leveraging their most important asset, their last name. 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This was all happening while joe biden was overseeing Foreign Policy as Vice President. So this is about he is basically the biden family getting money from people paying for a connection to the biden position as Vice President. Lets welcome back to the show congressman Kelly Armstrong of house judiciary. When you see all of this coming out now, this story keeps getting hotter. Joe biden is off the campaign trail. There was a time when media like the new york times, nbc, Washington Post, politico reported on all of this. Now there is silence about this. What is going on . There is a political story about Global Communications and james biden saying people all over the world were willing to cash in. This is why the computer and the emails between Vice President biden and hunter biden are so important because one, he lied he said he didnt talk to anybody about his global dealings, and two, this has been going on for a long time and it is shocking to me that nobody is doing more to investigate it. Elizabeth okay. Nbc reports in the final year of the Obama Administration, hunter biden goes to remain yaw. Meets with a wealthy romanian real estate tycoon accused of orchestrating a corrupt land deal when Vice President joe biden was pushing romania to crack down on corruption. There is no evidence of any improper activities but there is not enough reporting on it or intelligence officials looking into it. New york times, politico, abc looking into it. When you brought up paradigm, that was joe bidens brother taking over an Investment Fund called paradigm. Paradigm was starting to solicit, wait for it, money from unions, from labor unions and their pension funds. So he basically was quoted as saying, listen, weve got, also we have people, investors lined up around the world who want to invest in joe biden. Weve got 747 planes lined up filled with cash. Those, this is the type of stuff were seeing when we dig into the story. Are you seeing the same thing . Absolutely. We know at the very least, that hunter biden was trying to profit off of this. So what his father knew is a very viable question and again just from what we already know we know that joe biden lied when he said he never talked to his kids about their financial dealings because we know, i mean, veracity of the information on the laptop is still i guess somewhat of a question but the more and more we know from it we know the more it is being confirmed and nobody is talking about this and this is really, really important stuff. Imagine if it was, imagine if you flipped the coin across, i think i told you this before, liz, imagine if the names were donald trump, jr. And mike pompeos son . The media would go absolutely ballistic from one end of the country to the other. Instead theyre just avoiding the question. Elizabeth isnt it serious enough that you need to get to the bottom of the veracity of the laptop . Because if emails are true, indications that it is true, then this is basically the Vice President ial office being used and abused by foreign access, paytoplay. Absolutely. Elizabeth get to the bottom of it, right . The Vice President s family was definitely trying to sell access to the Vice President which is where you start first. I want to do something my friends on the other side of aisle didnt do under the mueller investigation, under the impeachment hoax, i want to give people benefit of the doubt, in order to get people benefit of the doubt we should investigate this. It is fascinating that the code of silence that exists across the spectrum regarding this issue because it is very, very serious. Elizabeth it is not just as Vice President. Is also when he was a senator and sat on Senate Foreign relations. We have hunter biden family, excuse me, joe biden family members with construction deals in iraq. Land Development Deals in costa rica. Weve got them reaching out to Union Pension funds to get their money into an Investment Fund that joe bidens brother ran. We have hunter biden doing business deals around the world, basically piggybacking on to air force two. Also Getting Secret Service protection for hundreds of trips around the world. Former acting dni ric grenell told us that he, is hearing from the Intelligence Community, from state Department Officials they were very upset what hunter biden was doing, using u. S. Embassies around the world to conduct business. Shouldnt we look into the calendars and see what is going on . Shouldnt the fbi and Intelligence Community be pointing on that . And how was Foreign Policy bent or shaped in any way by all of this going on . I agree and you dont even have to take it from my side of the aisle. Mr. Hines, john kerrys stepson warned him about it. The Obama Administration was worried about it. We heard from witnesses on the impeachment hearing they were concerned about his involvement. Not just republicans, democrats raised a concern. Two weeks before the most consequential election in my lifetime were not going to talk about it . That is fascinatingly, it is journalistic malpractice and it just really smells. Elizabeth all right. Congressman Kelly Armstrong, thanks for joining us. Come back soon . Thank you. Elizabeth sure, coming up acting customs and Border Protection commissioner mark morgan on growing criticism of democrats ignoring migrants lives, when the lives are put in danger, when they do illegal border crossings, put in danger by human drug traffickers and more. 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Elizabeth, we actually traveled the world, showcasing stories of migrants to america, coming illegally as well as the impact of illegal immigration on americans and one of the things that is so disturbing is there are lives lost on both sides of it. I think if were going to be humanitarian as a Democratic Party, we call ourselves the party of, you know, humane behavior, then what we need to do is truly understand the issue and understand that the messaging were putting out is actually killing people. It is not helping people. I got to tell you, that if youre a moderate democrat out there who is on the fence, please either watch this movie or go do your Due Diligence before you vote because where the Democratic Party is on illegal immigration is not a good idea. Elizabeth that was filmmaker namarata gujral. She is a registered democrat. She talked to us last night how she thought she would make a documentary sympathetic to illegal immigration. But after a year investigating it, she came to very different conclusion. She changed her mind. It is unsafe, it is dangerous and wrong for people to try to illegally cross the border. It can cost them their lives. She is saying that the humanitarian way is do it legally. Go to the ports of entry, you will be suck jibbing to human traffickers, drug traffickers and more. We have acting border customs commissioner, mark morgan. Always great to have you on. It is always interesting to hear people do 180 on their thinking when they find out really what is going on at the border. She thought the Border Patrol was bad. There are bad people. They are being awful to Illegal Immigrants. She said democrats are wrong. Were you surprised hearing that . No i was not, liz. Weve been saying that a long time. When xi says people are dying on both sides it is absolutely right. The smugglers are treating them nothing but a commodity. You have Illegal Immigrants dying on a regular basis. 5000 rescues last year by Border Patrol. Elizabeth you know, we just came up against a hard break. I feel so terrible. Mark, can you stay there. Well come back to after the break. I have to make a little money. Well answer the question which politician said we cant let people pour into the u. S. Undetected, undocumented, unchecked. That is after the break. Well tell you, dont cheat thats why were a fiduciary, obligated to put clients first. So, what do you provide . Cookie cutter portfolios . Nope. We tailor portfolios to our clients needs. But you do sell investments that earn you high commissions, right . We dont have those. So, whats in it for you . Our fees are structured so we do better when our clients do better. At Fisher Investments were clearly different. So youre a small bor a big one. You were thriving, but then. Oh. Ah. Okay. Plan, pivot. How do you bounce back . 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Ive been through the entire southwest border, liz. Again, again, im there where agents and officers talk about rescues they made, saved people. Countless lives saved. Countless rescues every single day what is happening. Just the other day, Border Patrol encountered, two fouryearolds, two fouryearolds, abandoned by the parents, given to smugglers, put them on a river to fend for themselves this is not a humane policy. This administration understands that . Is what we do to tackle this crisis. Elizabeth media critics there is not confidence in people covering the story, the Washington Post citing the president s executive actions, calling it antiimmigrant. The President Trump is not saying he is antiimmigrant. Many people in the country are proimmigrant. The country grew with immigrants. The point when you do it illegally you subject yourself to criminals, criminals are predators who prey upon the people trying to come here. One in three woman reportedly subject to sexual assaults and rape trying to come here illegally. Weve got you know, so many more crimes that go unreported with illegal border crossings. Is that true . It is absolutely true, liz. Look, that is another thing. I know this president. He is, he is far from what they are saying antiimmigrant. That is a false narrative that a lot of people are trying to portray. Youre absolutely right how you characterize this. Exploitation begins once they get into the United States. A lot of them become victims of trafficking. They dont even realize they were going to be a victim of trafficking until theyre in the middle of it until it is too late. This happens on a regular basis across the southwest border. Elizabeth yeah. In other words, you come here illegally. You could be basically pulled into the human and sex trafficking rings. That is what is going on at the border. It was Hillary Clinton who said a decade or so ago, we got to control our border. Chuck schumer said illegal immigration is wrong, plain and simple. Nancy pelosi said, a decade or so ago we certainly do not want anymore Illegal Immigrants coming in. Were talked about Human Trafficking and sex trafficking. We got to talk about the Drug Trafficking because massive meth busts, second biggest in dea history. Enough doses for every man, woman and child and mexico in the u. S. It is also the drug cartels are involved in illegal border crossings as well, right . That is absolutely right. That is another false statement out there a lot. All the drugs are coming through ports of entry. That is false. We catch a lot of drugs from interior ports of entry. Fentanyl seizures went up 71 . Meth up 25 . That is another real issue. Killed 71,000 people in this country in a single year. Thats a crisis. Liz, if i could say one more important thing really quick pause you mentioned it, we get chastised on this all the time as antiimmigrant which is false, we say not everybody coming across illegally are good people. That is the truth. Every single day were arresting gang members, pedophiles, rapists, murderers, that is the truth. Theyre endangering this country. Elizabeth mark morgan. Come back soon. Thank you so much for your insights and your service to our country. Im elizabeth macdonald. Thanks for watching us. We hope you watch us again tomorrow night. We hope you have a good evening. Dobbs starts right now. Lou good evening, everybody. President trump is demanding further investigation into the corruption of joe and hunter biden. He said his attorney general, william barr, needs to act fast and appoint a special counsel to investigate foreign payments made to the biden family while joe biden was in office. Weve got to get the attorney general to act. 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