First. It was too aggressive, it was too soon, and were paying for it not just in georgia, but were paying for it across the country x people are paying for it with their lives. But in georgia and nationwide, daily covid fatalities are nowhere near the spring pace. When it comes to closing schools, the doctors most responsible for saving the lyes of young people lives of young people represented by the American Academy of pediatrics are not for reimposing the lockdown. The docs understand that risks are relatively low, kids need education and also there are other Health Threats beyond covid. Economic shutdowns, high joblessness and personal isolation are not good for our health. Here in new york city where more than 60 people were hot over the july 4th holiday, even our leftist mayor bill de blasio seems to acknowledge the negative impact of our shuttered society. But we also saw too much violence this weekend, and its directly related to all that this location thats happened over these last four months with the coronavirus. President trump is correctly telling schools nationwide that they ought to reopen which is key to allowing many parents to return to work. The president is also urging payroll tax cuts to increase the incentives for companies to hire and for individuals to come back to work. The Unemployment Rate has declined since the spring shutdown but still remains above 111 , historically high 11 . Yet somehow stocks also remain historically high. In fact, the three month period ending in june was the best quarter for the Dow Jones Industrial average in more than 30 years. After plunging in march on pandemic worries, stocks have roared back with the nasdaq posting a series of record highs into july. But could the Election Campaign short circuit the rally . The New York Times reported this week that investors are starting to be concerned about the possibility of a joe Biden Victory in november given his proposals for higher taxes and more government regulation. And as you might expect, the president is plague on those fears tweeting if you want your 401 k s and stocks to disintegrate and disappear, vote for the radical left donothing democrats and corrupt joe biden. They make you very poor fast. Would a biden win really be that bad, and whatever happens in november, how can we restart the american jobs machine right now . Here to talk about the recipe for a rebounding economy is the director of the National Economic council, larry kudlow, who comes to us from the north lawn of the white house. Larry, thanks for joining us. Great pleasure, james. Thank you. James so i want to take you back to candidate donald trump in 2015. He said i will be the greatest jobs president god ever created. Now, some people may have thought that was kind of over the top, but two years and seven months later the United States hit an alltime high in the number of job openings in this country. Obviously, the covid shutdowns have disrupted that jobs machine. How do we reignite it right now and get more people back to work . Well, a couple things. Great questions. 2017, 2018, 2019 and the first two months of 2020 we had a 3. 5 Unemployment Rate, we had historically record low unemployment for africanamericans, hispanics, asians, women, people without High School Degrees and so forth. It was probably the best economy in at least a generation if not more. That was done by reducing marginal tax rates on corporations large and small, individuals, complete reform and simplification of regulations, rollback of regs, independent Energy Sector and fair and reciprocal trade deals, usmca just went into place july 1. We had the mexican president here two days ago. All those were big plus for the economy. We had record stock market for the economy. All that was terrific until the pandemic came. Let me just say two quick things on this point. Number one, we must, we must not go back to high taxes and high regulations. We must not do that. It defies common sense after this pandemic contraction. Number two, my view is right now the best path to opening businesses, to creating jobs and to rebuild a healthy economy is that folks across the country particularly in the hot spots in the south and southwest, some other places too, very simple guidelines. Lets go back to them, lets not forget them. Face coverings, social distancing, testing and personal hygiene. Four simple mitigating actions that will quell the rise in cases in these hot spot counties and areas. As you said, so far the fatality rates remain very, very low. Thats a good sign. But we must not forget, i cant emphasize this enough, you want a healthier economy . You want jobs to resume . You want businesses to reopen . Then stay with the guidelines that the president and the Vice President have put out and, frankly, most of the governors observe. Lets not forget that, james. Thats all i want to say. James okay. I think were all for observing the Common Sense Solutions to avoid spreading the virus. But as weve been discussing, key e to a reopening allowing people to go back to work is having schools open. We have pediatricians saying, look, these lockdowns have not been healthy for kids. But i think there is also an economic case here. We know that when kids arent in school, were essentially robbing them of future earnings because theyre not learning, theyre not acquiring skills. The pediatricians are saying its healthier, the goal should be to get kids in school, but is there an economic case here to say long term these kids are going to benefit if theyre getting that education . Well, i think thats right. Look, i think the pediatricians are right. President trump is pressing very, very hard to reopen all the schools, you know, k12. Frankly, i dont understand some of these colleges. They should be making plans, using these guidelines to reopen. In terms of your point on the economy, youre right. We dont want to slow or, you know, retard education particularly in the k12 area because this is the future work force, and they have stuff to learn. Basic learning. Its such a thing thats still possible in the United States. History, arithmetic, reading, you know, lets hope and pray that teachers teach, and lets hope and pray the students get to work. Get to school. Theres another thing here. Single moms, you know, single moms have to go to work. God bless em. But if their children are home, what are they going to do . Maybe they cant afford an au pair, a babysitter or some assistance on that. Thats another economic reason. We want to create all the jobs, get folks on temporary layoffs and furloughs back to work, but if the kids are home, that could be a great burden. I think particularly for single moms. Frankly, for traditional familyings as well. So there are a million reasons why getting back to school is absolutely crucial. Look, we will not, the president will not reshutter the economy. He will not. And, hopefully, the governors wont either. I think we learned our lesson. You dont want the cure to be worse than the disease. But again, james, i dont mean to beat a broken record, but its very important. The simple points of best practices guidance on face coverings and so fort and the distancing and the testing, i mean, were testing, i think, 700,000 per day now. All those things make us better than we were last march and april. This is very containable and manageable if people just exercise common sense and respect for others. James okay. Larry, yeah, please stay with us. 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You know, youve got a lot of Bernie Sanders people, youve got a lot of Elizabeth Warren people, a lot of aol people. Look, i respect them, and they have a right to do a what theyre doing. But mr. Binds going to be raising mr. Bidens going to be raising taxes across the board and then some. He said yesterday with, the day before, he wants to end something called shareholder capitalism. We used to call that the investor class. If you buy for the long run, you make a fortune for retirement. Hes going to raise taxes on big business, Small Business and individuals and investment, cap gains and dividends. Theyre going to go back to the Green New Deal james okay. But we want to know what is the trump second term agenda . Youve talked about how much success you had precovid with tax and regulatory ree form. Im assuming not the 4 trillion tax increase biden is suggesting. What are we going to get in the trump second term . Could we see e a lower Corporate Income tax rate . Well, look, were planning on all that right now. Weve got talks coming up on the hill. Weve got to get through that hurdle first, and then there will be we are also working on Campaign Messaging for the second term. James, we have a vshaped recovery. Assuming we get this pandemic down, were going to be in great shape. Employment, unemployment looks great, housing looks great, retail sales, car sales, housing, almost every indicator is showing a vshaped recovery. We could score 20 growth in the second half. Moving to 2021, good policies will give us a bang recovery. I think you will see additional tax cuts, all right . Thats the president s agenda. Hes already said he wont sign a bill with Congress Unless it has a payroll tax holiday in it, so thats a starter, a little appetizer leading into the campaign. There may be Capital Gains relief, there may be Capital Gains holidays. We will provide assistance probably for those at the lowest rungs of the ladder. Our policies help low wage earners, youre going to continue to see that. Much more reregulation james deregulation i assume you meant. Deregulation, i beg your pardon. Theres a spate of executive orders coming. James weve got to go, but you been wanting u. S. Investors in Retirement Funds about investing in china. Do you think it is just unwise for a u. S. Investor to invest in china right now . Well, look, i think it is unwise right now. For many years, not just our years, before president trump, the sec and the Public Accounting board have been criticizing china for fraudulent accounting, for weak standards, for a lack of transparency. And youve got to bring that to investors attention. And thats what we have done. National security adviser Robert Obrien and i, we did write letters to the sec, to the thrift savings plan and lately the Railroad Retirement plan. We have a working group going on that will continue to press these issues. Theres too much economic risk in these Chinese Companies right now. Furthermore, many of them pose National Security threats. I really dont want u. S. Investors to build up chinas military, for heaven sakes, given all the problems with hong kong, the South China Sea e and what not. So were just saying no fraud, more visibility. You cant report all your information to the communist government in china. Those things have to be solved before we can turn a green light back on for chinese investment. Its the Investor Protection if, james. Thats the key theme. James okay. Thanks, larry. Appreciate it. And up next, well be talking to one of the most influential women in the financial world aboutututut at Fisher Investments, we do things differently and other Money Managers dont understand why. Because our way works great for us but not for your clients. Thats why were a fiduciary, obligated to put clients first. So, what do you provide . Cookie cutter portfolios . Nope. 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Is this a reasonable judgment that long term the u. S. Economy is sound . Is well, i think the thing to remember, james, is that before the effects of covid, fundamentally the companies in our country represented in the stock market were in very good shape. The economy was in very good shape. And if as you said, weve taken a beaten as a result of covid19 and the shutdown, the intentional shutdown of businesses. We did see the worst stock market for about a month, and weve now seen the greatest recovery in the stock market since 1987. Pretty extraordinary. Right now the market, the market is always forwardlooking. The market right now is pricing in a fairly smooth recovery to the economy. I think its likely to be a little bit bump questioner than that. Were bumpier than that. Were seeing the effects of closing and reopening and closing the economy right now. And the stock market will bear that over the coming months. We feel that the recession that weve been in were coming out of, that the third and fourth quarters will be strong. Companies have got to figure out how to, how to forecast their earnings and what to expect in an environment like that. Thats a little more challenging. So its going to be a bit of a bumpy ride. James okay. I think some people would say that a big reason for this is the Federal Reserve has expanded its Balance Sheet of more than 7 trillion now. Thats a lot of money creation. A lot of that money may be going into stocks, and i think some people would say should we expect a reckoning at some point. Is there kind of an unreal quality that stocks have been sort of inflated in part by the fed . Well, im not sure inflated by the fed. I think that those companies in part because of their own planning, their own cost cutting and their own approach to reopening, some of those Companies Represented in the stock market are recovering quite well. And theyre reaping the benefits of that. And shareholders are reaping the benefits of that. There are some parts of our economy that are going to take much longer to recover. Entertainment, the cruise industry, those kinds of businesses that require people inside their doors are going to take a little bit longer to recover. James okay. Now as investors try to handicap the election, im wondering how much you think this should factor into their planning, longterm planning or maybe not so long term. President trump saying more tax and regulatory relief, former Vice President biden saying tax hikes. And as i read his thursday remarks, i think hes saying the trump tariffs are not going away if he gets elected. Do you encourage investors to pay e attention to that, or do you say long term americas going to be fine whatever happens in november . Well, thats what has been proven out in the past, james. We say dont play politics with your portfolio. 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As gerry reminds us, over the last century the United States, quote liberated half the planet from historys most dehumanizing ideologies, advanced a free market capitalism that led more humans out of poverty than any Economic System ever devised and given the world the richest bounty of intellectual, cultural, scientific capital since the enlightenment. Not bad. As we go forward, lets also remember the big advantage we have over the opponents of american constitutional liberty. Our ideas work and theirs dont. Thats it for us this week. For the latest show updates, be sure to follow us on twitter, facebook and instagram. Well be back next week right here at the wall street journal at large. Im james freeman. Thanks for joining us. Jack welcome to barrons round talking about where we get behind the headlines and prepare you for the week with ahead. Im jack otter. The nasdaq hitting record highs this week, the future of red hot tech stocks. 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