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Defund Police Departments is on. Now this, hundreds of convicted criminals freed from new york prisons since march, rearrested hundreds of types. Same thing happening in states like florida, hawaii, california. Were on that story. Gianno caldwell a how the pandemic and Police Reforms turned a harsh spotlight on painfully wrong decisions made by local leaders. They are making many of the most important decisions in the country having farreaching ramifications. Why defunding the police, gianno says, is not the answer. Rnc chairwoman, Ronna Mcdanielle now the Trump Campaign is calling Cnns Brian Stelter for his personal attack on Trump Campaign Legal Advisor jenna ellis. James lankford is with us. Sits on Homeland Security on President Trump declaring during the commencement address at west point were ending era of endless wars. As afghanistan releases from its prisons thousands of taliban fighters. Hands spa covey and lee zeldin is with us. What critics say is historic spying and sabotage of the Incoming Trump white house. Information is many dog light on president obama, the questions are mounting. How he may have put pressure on the Intelligence Community on the trump russia probe. Thanks for joining us, im elizabeth macdonald. The evening edit starts right now. Elizabeth thanks for joining us. Youre watching the fox business network. President trump planning to roll out his executive order on Police Reform tomorrow. While separately the District Attorney in atlanta, georgia, now says Police Officers involved in the death of Rayshard Brooks could face felony murder charges after the release of Police Bodycam video. Lets head to washington with Hillary Vaughn for the latest. Hillary. Reporter liz, the Supreme Court says they will not review a legal doctrine that Shields Police from being sued for misconduct just 48 hours after another Police Officerinvolved shooting where an africanamerican man died in their custody, sparking new waves of outrage around the country. This Police Bodycam and Surveillance Video shows altercation between Rayshard Brooks outside of a wendys parking lot in at lan tax minutes before being shot to death by police after he tried to escape their custody. Brooks is seen struggling, taking a taser from officers that was used on hill before the officer then shot him several times in the back. The medical examiner ruled brooks death a homicide. The Atlanta Police chief resigned. The officer that shot brooks has been fired. Atlanta mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms announced changes to their Police Policy today. If a Police Officer sees another officer using force that, which is beyond reasonable under the circumstances, that they are dutybound to intercede to prevent that use of force. Reporter local leaders weigh law Law Enforcement reforms for the Police Departments congress and white house is working on federal reforms. The president is expected to nonhis reforms through an executive order. The president gave a preview what to expect this afternoon. We want law and order. This is about law and order but it is about justice also and it is about safety. So i think were going to do a good job tomorrow. I think you will see some things that a lot of people thought would not happen. You wouldnt be automobile to get them done but well get them done. Reporter white house readies response, senator tim scott is working on legislation from capitol hill t could have money for body cameras for police and reports of use of force results in death or serious injury. Tomorrow the senate will host a hearing on use of force. Well hear from Police Chiefs from around the country. Liz . Elizabeth thank you, hillary, so much. Okay the covid pandemic, Police Reform protests all of this has suddenly turned a harsh National Spotlight on the failures of local leaders. They are making important decisions in the country, now having farreaching ramifications. This is whats now happening. 21 people are shot dead in the protests. More than 800 Law Enforcement officials assaulted or attacked, many injured. Also lots of Small Businesses have been slammed and buildings vandalized. Look at this, a 29yearold Police Officer shot in the head in protests in las vegas, now paralyzed from the neck down. The First Amendment to the constitution says yes to Peaceful Assembly but doesnt say yes to this. Look what is happening here. Protest leaders in seattle, nationwide other cities planning a summer of nationwide street action. The question is, will protesters try to take over other city blocks in other cities like they have in seattle . Seattles mayor, takeover of city blocks where no Police Officers are allowed is lawful and patriotic. Lawfully gathering, expressing First Amendment rights, demanding we do better as a society, providing true equity for communities of color is not terrorism, it is patriot ism. Elizabeth watch this footage of protesters in seattle going after a christian preacher. The question is, is that patriotism . Watch an msnbc reporter get totally shut down by a protester after that reporter said, what is going on there is like a street festival. Watch this. Has not been peaceful since monday. More than a week of clashes between demonstrators and police. You have seen essentially almost like a street festival atmosphere. No. Not a street festival. Very intentional purpose. It is not a street festival this is not a street festival. Do not say that. Shame on you for saying that. Learn, right now it is not a street festival. Elizabeth heres President Trump just earlier. Watch this. Seattles big stuff. That is a major city. We have a governor ho is a stiff. We have a mayor who said this will be a lovefest. By the way, these are violent people that took it over. These are not people that are nice people. I saw on your network today, john, i saw what went with hitting, punching, beating all the other things going on in seattle. You have a governor that doesnt do a damn thing bit, and you have a mayor that doesnt know she is alive. She is talking about it will be a lovefest this summer. If they dont do the job, i will do the job. Elizabeth joining me is fox news political analyst, gianno caldwell. Great to have you on. Are these peaceful patriotic protests. The mayor downplaying, saying its a block party, the summer of love. What is your take . She is incredibly inept to handle what is going on. I cant believe were seeing an American City where you have the headquarters of microsoft there, all these other major corporations has completely been taken over by folks who are beating up individuals late at night. They will go in, if a person goes in to take videos, you cant take videos, they dont want anything going on twitter or any other social media platform. They dont want police to keep order. What other American City is like this . This doesnt exist. My biggest concern there will be other liberal cities and other leftleaning groups, if they can do it in seattle, we can certainly do it here. This is where we lose as country because were not longer a country of law and order. That is where the problem starts and ends. Elizabeth yeah. You know, gianno, protests are happening at least 80,000 criminals according to ucla, 80,000 now released from prison due to covid19 fears in the prison system. 250 convicted and accused criminals freed from new York Rikers Island since march. They have been rearrested 450 times, 450 times for crimes. Now this, to your point, reports are coming in, protesters in seattle are spreading to the Police Precinct in the western part of seattle. Theyre calling themselves chop. That is short for capitol hill organized processes. One of the protesters outside of the Police Precinct in seattle quote, does anybody here know what happened to the people who did not get on board with the french revolution . Chopped, the crowd responded. That is the message we are sending. What is your take on that . Obviously individuals should have Police Controlling the area. There is over 12,000 complaints to the Police Department for them not doing anything about it. The citizens in this city, although this very liberal city, people are really fed up with this theyre truly fed up as they should be. This is the point for President Trump as he said if they dont do anything about it, that he would. We need to see what that action plan looks like because the federal government has to step in because the elected officials there have completely, totally lost their way. Elizabeth yeah. The moderate voice that is the most powerful voice in america, critics analysts have said. They have had it. Theyre done with this theyre done with what is going on how the pandemic, basically debt with by local leaders. How the protests, riot having been dealt with. We understand, you know, the Grass Roots Movement for reform. Thats duly noted of course, do it but you know, push to defund is coming as Police Budgets nationwide only represent 4 of spending. House minority leader Kevin Mccarthy says do retraining. Dont defund the police. What is your reaction what is going on . Philadelphia, 30 atms blown up with explosives in philadelphia. Molotov cocktails thrown at new york city Police Officers and explosives used and found in other states nationwide. Your reaction . I think, i wrote a piece that came out in the New York Post yesterday saying we need to fund the police. I had some interactions with Law Enforcement. Some positive. A lot positive. Overwhelmingly positive but i also had negative ones where they drove behind me for two miles, asked how i was able to afford the car i was driving in. First he put me in the back of the squad car and cuffed me. I have had negative experiences i know the police is not beyond reform. It shouldnt be defunded. That is ridiculous and stupid. I think back to my hometown of chicago on may 31st, where there was the most murders in one day in 60 years. We dont know how far back it actually goes because they have only 60 years worth of records. On that same day the city of chicago had 65,000 calls to the 911 center. 50,000 calls more than they usually have. Usually about 15,000. This, were at a fever pitch right now. As the country, we all have to come together. We have to unite and certainly we need to reform the police. Not defund. Elizabeth gee gianno caldwell. Great to have you on. Thank you. Elizabeth coming up, Hans Spakovsky and lee zeldin join us. Critics say are historic spying and sabotage on the Incoming Trump administration. New information is coming to light. Questions are being raised how president obama put pressure on the Intelligence Community about the trump russia probe. That story is coming up. For us but not for your clients. Thats why were a fiduciary, obligated to put clients first. So, what do you provide . Cookie cutter portfolios . Nope. We tailor portfolios to our clients needs. But you do sell investments that earn you high commissions, right . We dont have those. So, whats in it for you . Our fees are structured so we do better when our clients do better. At Fisher Investments were clearly different. Doprevagen is the number oneild mempharmacistrecommendeding . Memory support brand. 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I think you can make the argument for unmasking at other times but to unmask during this transition period, to me, is another level and really shows how the beginning of the excuse of why Hillary Clinton lost, how this was developed, they were so shocked that donald trump won, that it must have not have been because the American People just really chose donald trump but because of some other thing. And remember, we had 67 democrats refuse to come to the inauguration. Elizabeth lets welcome republican lee zeldin of new york. Great to have you on, congressman. Former house i impeachment memb. Food to be here. Elizabeth media leaks seven times greater when President Trump took over than under president george w. And under obama. So were talking like a leak a day. So that is he is talking about, media leaks there. Do you think, do you agree with Richard Grenell, that the Obama Administration both spied on and tried to sabotage the Trump White House . Youre certainly seeing through that fisa warrants which ended up getting extended, that process was flawed. We saw a lot of abuse as Ambassador Grenell was just pointing out during the transition, not just with the unmasking but then the leaking of classified information about those calls to the Washington Post. Then as you just pointed out, over the course of the first several months of the Trump Administration you have these leaks coming out and what was a greatly unfortunate, was that you have these major Media Outlets basing their stories off anonymous stories, often times those Anonymous Sources proved to be inaccurate, however once you get two or three years down the road and, whether it is ig horowitzs report comes out or the good work of declassification from acting dni grenell or current dni in ratcliff and other aspects were getting more facts, like, for example, that the nunes memo is accurate, not the schiff memo, you on fox business and fox will put out the rest of the story but unfor the senately these major outlets, whether it is other networks, of course newspapers, theyre not taking the time to correct the record after spending years dumping down their audience on this stuff. Elizabeth you know, congressman, former dni grenell also said, quote there were red flags, red flags from the beginning of the trump russia investigation that numerous officials at multiple agencies raised the red flags about the problems the fbi, what they were doing in the trump russia probe but they were pushed aside. Those red flags kept hidden, concealed from the public. Watch this. Look, what i will say, i really encourage people to read the footnotes. When you read these footnotes, you clearly see that the Intelligence Community, not just the fbi, but multiple agencies, knew that the charges were flimsy, or that the russians from the very beginning were wreaking havoc on the process by pushing propaganda into the steele dossier. People knew this, maria. There were red flags from the very beginning and those voices within the Intelligence Community were pushed aside or classified or both and most people never saw the warning signs and thats exactly the problem i think that we have to drop back and solve. Elizabeth okay. Congressman, heres the thing, by late 2016 the fbi officials led by james comey knew that the trump russia probe was falling apart. Comey, lisa page, peter strzok made statements to that effect. Heres the what were uncovering in the documents. That basically president obama wanted everything you have on russian influence put in the Intelligence Community assessment. So were going to dig deeper into that later in the show. How much influence did president obama have on this here . We dont have all the answers but we narrowed it down. Whether president obama and his closest associates at highest levels of the white house as well as the doj and the fbi, they knew there was no there there but continued to pursue it. Ambassador grenell has done a great job getting information out. That is why he was such a threat and dni ratcliff is such a threat. Theyre afraid of them doing their job. Not afraid of them not doing their job. Elizabeth i got to jump. In obama wanted steel dossier put into the file by Andrew Mccabe. Stay with us. Well have a lot more show on the other side of the break, stay with us im a performer. Always have been. And always will be. Never letting anything get in my way. Not the doubts, distractions, or voice in my head. And certainly not arthritis. New voltaren provides powerful arthritis pain relief to help me keep moving. And it can help you too. Feel the joy of movement with voltaren. Woi felt completely helpless. Hed online. Feel the joy of movement my entire career and business were in jeopardy. I called reputation defender. Vo take control of your online reputation. Get your free reputation report card at reputationdefender. Com. Find out your online reputation today and let the experts help you repair it. Woman they were able to restore my good name. Vo visit reputationdefender. Com or call 18778668555. Elizabeth welcome back. The president gave the commencement address at west point. Watch this. We are ending the era of endless wars. In its places a renewed cleareyed focus on defending americas vital interests. It is not the duty of the u. S. Troops to solve ancient conflicts in faraway lands, that many people have never even heard of. We are not the policemen of the world. But let our enemies be on notice, if our people are threatened, we will never, ever, hesitate to act. And when we fight from now on we will only fight to win. Elizabeth lets bring in senator James Lankford from Homeland Security. Great to have you on, sir. Your reaction to what the president just said . It is coming on the heels of afghan leaders vowing to release 5000 taliban prisoners including suicide bombers. What is your reaction . Reaction is pretty clear from the president. We dont need to be everywhere all the time but we need to be in a posture to be able to defend ourselves. What we found out from afghanistan back in 2001 in a faraway country, we feel like there is no threat there, they have the capability of bringing the threat to us, to kill thousands of americans. And so for the United States military to stay strong, to stay dispersed around the country to be able to act at moments notice. Be attentive, if you bring the fight to us, well bring it to you first to make sure we protect our people is a fair way to protect the nation. Elizabeth you know President Trump also revealed new details on saturday about a Hypersonic Missile that the u. S. Has been working on. He says it goes 17 times fastter than the fastest missile currently available in the world. Can hit a target 1000 miles away 14 inches from center. What is response to that news, dramatic increase in americas firepower there, your reaction . This is something china and russia both worked on a long time. They put high emphasis a long time. If we maintain a good deterrent with china and russia we have to have equal size and capability weapons. The president s statement wasnt well have equal capability. Well exceed their capability. Both their speed and accuracy. So the main focus is, if you plan on attacking us, know that we have the capability to get to you first around get to you more accurate than anything else that youve got. So that deterrence is a help to us because again, if something is coming that fast at us, very different cut to be able to hit, people need to know if you launch were able to get to you faster. Elizabeth sir, next story. A number of books coming out. John boltons book created an uproar in d. C. Claims that President Trump, it is ha about to be released, his book, President Trumps transgressions well beyond what happened with the ukraine saga. It went to his impeachment and led to reelection calculations drove the president s major decisions. Attorney general saying today, both did not complete the clearance process of his book. Needs to be deletion of classified information before it can be released. Reaction to john boltons book in light of everything we talked about . Not just john boltons book, the publisher is trying to make as money as they can. Shocking revelation any president during his four year term would think about reelection. This was constant statement from president obama as well, he did everything based on a poll how this would work for his election in the future. It is absurd to say the president was constantly thinking about elections in the future when he made decisions. Of course he did. Youre working for the American People. You have to have actually have the favor of the American People to do anything and be reelected to stay into office. So well see what the book actually says. Right now is sounds like theyre building it all up to sell as much precopies as they can rather than trying to get information out. If john bolton had something to say he is certainly not shy. He could have said at any point. He seems to be focused on selling the book right now, not getting Accurate Information out. Elizabeth we have another book, the art of her deal, untold story of Melania Trump by Washington Post mary jordan. That there is another book coming out the neas niece is one that helped New York Times look into president s taxes, leakerred Tax Information to the New York Times. What is reaction to that book coming out . Hard to be able to judge. Well see what comes out on facts and figures. A lot of folks will too to make money off the president at this point in the campaign, to try to distract the campaign. Get the facts out and than trying to sell the book to profit off the president. Elizabeth senator, thanks so much for joining us. Really appreciate it. 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When the world needed them most. Find and honor your ancestors who servered in world war ii. Their stories live on at ancestry. Elizabeth welcome back. The Trump Campaign is now calling Cnns Brian Stelters interview sexist. It is an interview that turned into a personal attack on Trump Campaign Legal Advisor jenna ellis. The interview was about the Trump Campaigns threat to sue cnn over a poll last week that showed joe biden 14 points ahead watch what happened. Some day you will reget this, right. 3 1 2 years. Some day you will regret this when kids and grandkids look back at this time and you use slurs. Brian, you cant even come on and talk. 10 or 20 years, you will recognize how damaging it was, how damaging it was, terms like fake news to attack journalist trying to do their job. In 15 or 20 years youre not trying to do your job. Youre not a journalist, brian. Youre act activist. Elizabeth welcome rnc chairwoman Ronna Mcdaniel. It got heated and turned nasty. What do you think . If youre a journalist you allow your guest to express their opinion without constant interruption. Brian stelter not that long ago had a guest on accusing the president killing more people than hitler and he chose not to interrupt or correct that guest. He is an activist. He doesnt like this president. His coverage shows that. And he wouldnt let jenna speak. He resorted to person that attacks talking about her future children and grandchildren saying that she would be an embarassment to them. That is why a lot of people in this country are turned off by the socalled news because it is not news anymore. It is a agenda driven and cnn has become a network that is very much antitrump. You can see it when you watch it night after night. Elizabeth you know, the Trump Campaign released a statement condemning Brian Stelter es attack saying Brian Stelters comments towards senior Legal Advisor jenna ellis were sexist and demeaning, implying that her children and grandchildren will be ashamed of her simply holding Media Outlets accountable. There is part of the story. Why sue cnn because after poll. The Trump Campaign is suing the New York Post New York Times and Washington Post. What is going on there. They are pushing back defense media that say theyre balanced but are agenda driven. Weve seen more and more with the administration. Give example of the refusal to cover the tara reid story. Allegations against joe biden, 17 interviews over five weeks where it was not raised. Why would that happen if there wasnt an agenda . Why are republicans treated differently than democrats . I think it is something the American Public really feel right now is that there is one set of standards for republicans and a different set of standards for democrats. Were seeing that with the rallies now. Were about to have a rally. Everybody is up in arms about the fact were having a rally and saying it is dangerous yet, when these protests were happening, you had Media Outlets saying this is fantastic this, is wonderful. They never talked about ppe and social distancing. So it is a totally different way the media covers republicans versus democrats. Elizabeth you know the president has been criticized for attacks on the media for calling them the enemy of the people. We have also journalists like glen green wall, matt taibbi, calling media out for acting like antitrump and change agents. Not staying neutral, calling balls and strikes. Here is what happened. President trump announced killing george floyd is disgrace and chokeholds should be ended and stopped. Cnn accused of editing backs sound bites that dont show the president s position. President still hasnt said which Police Reform measures he will back. He told fox news he is generally against police chokehold. Somebody in a chokehold, what are you going to do now, let go, say i will start over again, im not allowed anyone to be in a chokehold . That is tough situation. Elizabeth cnn Brian Stelters ronna, downplayed the seattle organized protests, happening in just a small part of the city. What is your take on all of that . I just think there is an agenda, activist mentality, you know what . , own it . Guess with were for democrats, be honest with the American People. When i come on your show. Im for President Trump. Im head of republican party. You will hear my viewpoints, coming through that narrative that im a republican, what you have is, with specific outlets, journalists saying were journalists were fair and balanced and they absolutely skewing the way they cover stories based on their dislike of this president. And i think enough is enough. American people are smart you have . To determine and digest the news and term what it means for themselves without having the media have to tell them what they need to believe. If they dont believe what the media is telling them, that theyre children and grandchildren will be embarrassed by them like they just said to jenna, which is absolutely despicable and out of line. Elizabeth give us an update, next case, can you tell us about the Campaign Fund raising . Where does it stand now for the Trump Campaign, amount of money being raised . Yeah weve been raising record money. Of course the president hasnt been out there fundraising which joe biden has had an advantage. He did 20 fund raisers last month alone. The president is focusing on governing. Youre seeing benefit of that as were seeing coronavirus cases go down and youre seeing the economy starting to come back. But he got on the road last week. We had two great fundraisers with him. Well see more and more of that. But we have a record day yesterday with 14 million raised online. Elizabeth Ronna Mcdaniel, thanks for joining us. Come back soon. Thank you. Elizabeth up next the Heritage Foundations Hans Von Spakovsky talking to us about the nations former top spy chief raising questions what did president obama know and when did he know it about the historic spy and sabotaging about Incoming Trump administration. New information coming to light how president obama put pressure on the Intelligence Community to acknowledge the steele dossier as part of the trump russia probe. That story next. An annuity can help your Retirement Plan ride out turbulent times. Learn more at protectedincome. Org. 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Raising this question, how much was president obama involved in influencing it, in influencing the trump russia probe . Lets welcome to the show, Heritage Foundation senior legal fellow, Hans Von Spakovsky. Great to have you back on. Government documents show, that fbi officials told james comey in summer of 2016 about the probe. Fbi officials and Text Messages and documents show he was keeping tabs on it. You see that from texts from lisa page to peter strzok. Your reaction . Look, the top officials working under obama, the head of his fbi, the head of his national intelligence, his chief of staff were all engaging in unmasking of intelligence intercepts of campaign personnel and people in the transition. We supposed to believe that they did all of this without letting the president know about it . That he didnt participate in the Decision Making on this . Thats very hard to believe. I certainly wouldnt believe that about president obama. So he was, i think, intimately involved in all of the wrongdoing that went on with this. Elizabeth you know, hans, it looks like president obama pressured the fbi here according to government documents. Right. Elizabeth former fbi official Andrew Mccabe tells the dojig, why did the fbi push to have the discredited steele dossier that had disinformation in it, russian disinformation in it, why did the fbi push it to have that put in the 2017 Intelligence Community roundup on russian interference even though the fbi knew it was discredited, it was not substantiated . Mccabe said, quote, obama wanted everything you have on russian influence. Fbi officials told the senate they would have a major problem if the steele dossier had not been included. What is going on here . Well, either mccabe is telling the truth, that that is the reason this totally discredited dossier was in there or you have to believe that the top officials in our intelligence agencies and the fbi were totally incompetent in their jobs and that was the reason they included this totally discredited dossier. I dont think theyre all incompetent. It sounds like in fact there was pressure coming from the white house and frankly, look, we know now this was a partisan use of both our Law Enforcement capabilities and the very powerful capabilities of our intelligence agencies. Something that has never happened, that i know of in the history of the United States being used against the opposition political partys president ial candidate. Elizabeth yeah. Critics have accused president obama and his administration of abuses of power. He literally, his administration literally spied on the media. They did wiretaps and seized phone records of people like Associated Press reporters, New York Times reporter james rosen, fox News Reporter james rosen. Irs commissioner visited white house under Obama Administration, the obama white house, nearly 160 times as irs was targeting conservative nonprofits for extra scrutiny. Is that an attempt to shut them down. Right. Elizabeth in order to get obama reelected or get democrats reelected. That was an issue too. You know, there has been dozens of problems with the abuses of power under the Obama Administration. Final word, hans . Particularly the spying on reporters. They did more of that than any other Prior Administration that i know of and they seemed to be totally unashamed about it. Elizabeth Hans Von Spakovsky, thanks for coming on. Come back soon. Thanks for having me. Elizabeth up kelsey bollar with the independent womens forum with us. 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Now this, at least 250 convicted, accused criminals freed from new yorks Rikers Island prison since march, rearrested, more than once for a grand total of 450 rearrests. Welcome independent womens forum senior policy analyst kelsey bollar for her reaction. Kelsey, your take on this story . First liberal politicians want to release a bunch of criminals into our cities and now they want to defund the police so there are no forms of Law Enforcement to respond to them. This is really a handful of stunning policies weve seen, these far left politicians respond to lately. I think it takes away from bipartisan efforts that weve seen the Trump Administration come out and support, advocate for criminal justice reform. Also for Police Reform but unfortunately when these policies get taken so far out of hand, it reduces the open students to have productive conversations about how to enact sensible reforms while also still protecting our communities from violent criminals who still do exist. Elizabeth you know, kelsey the mass release of convicted and accused criminals of new york, it is happening as Violent Crime surges double digits in places like new york city, also in seattle. Also major cities across the country. Bill de blasio, the mayor is saying he will cut the nypd funding. Now votes coming in billion dollars in reductions. Kelsey, your take on this, now the trucking industry, eight out of 10, eight out of 10 Truck Drivers we aint driving into cities where the Police Budgets have been defunded. Your take on that . Can anybody blame them . My heart goes out for all the families who are sending their loved ones who are Police Officers out into their local communities to try to prevent some of the violence weve seen break out from the peaceful protests. And of course this is all going to have a Ripple Effect much businesses and Industries Like truckers saying were not going into these communities if there is no Law Enforcement to support us. So it is, i have my deepest sympathy for these Truck Drivers and other businesses who need to come to cities from outofstate because it is going to have a huge Ripple Effect in our economy if we really do defund the police. Elizabeth you know, also when you have experts are saying when you have mayhem like this and chaos, you see problems popping up elsewhere. Look at the surge of human smuggling at the southern border lately. 40 rise, significant rise in both illegal Border Crossers and drugs now crossing the border. This is as of may. According to Homeland Security, a 40 spike higher in human smuggling. Your reaction . This is why Border Security is a Public Safety issue as well. We constantly get told you know, it is just a National Security issue. Covid19 is a Serious Public Health issue and it is yet another reason why we need to have tough Border Security including walls in places where it makes sense to prevent viruses including coronavirus from entering our country. Elizabeth kelsey bollar, thanks for joining us. Really appreciate it. Come back soon. Thank you. Elizabeth im elizabeth macdonald, youve been watching the evening edit on fox business. Thank you so much for watching. We hope you have a good evening and please join us tomorrow night. Have a good one joining us, lou dobbs tonight starts now. Lou good evening, everybody. Theres a small nationstate being constructed within one of the countrys large cities, and that city is redefining itself. Gaining National Attention and a i growing audience, the area in seattle once known as the capitol hill autonomous zone has been rebrand over the past week. It is now to be known as the capitol hill organized protest, or c. H. O. P. Well have a look tonight inside their borders and take a look at their numbers and what President Trump plans to do about it all here in just aew