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Elizabeth you know there has been debate about when the outbreak started. This is a mystery. The uk is saying, could have started going around the world last year, late last year. Sweden and france say it may have started in november due to infected travelers from china. This matters for immunity and antibodies. Florida, theyre saying maybe it started started in december here. So whats your take on that . Well it may well have started that early. Wouldnt surprise us. I dont think well ever be able to nail it down but i think what the folks in florida will discover as they do these Antibody Tests, that the large majority of the population is still susceptible. So that the coronavirus could spread widely in florida and in any other state in this country. So were going to have to keep our social distancing activities on for many, many months. There are a lot of people who are susceptible. Florida is the home for a lot of people who are retired, theyre older, theyre exactly the folks who may indeed get more serious infections, if they do get infected. So, take care. Elizabeth yeah. You know there has been a lot of complaints, how come testing is not up to speed. Again and again, we keep hearing from medical experts, this is a really complex test. You cant ramp it up in weeks times. Him iv is a rna virus. Cove2 is rna virus and cov1. Those took nine months. It is pretty stunning that the u. S. Government got tested up so rapidly. Ii want to move up to optimism. Uk is reporting a new drug. Called eidd2801. It is basically attacking the same type of viral enzyme that Gileads Remdesivir does. The thing with this, doctor, is , i. E. D. D2801, it sounds really good. It comes in pill form. If it is safe and effective, you can take it at home and attack it faster, than attack the virus faster which you have to take intravenously. It is already in trials in uk and u. S. What is your reaction to it . Very interesting. It is an oral drug, that means it could be given very early to abort infection after you get infected, after you get contact with the virus but this drug is now going into trials. Wellhave to see whether it works, how well it works and how safe it is. So lets wait for the trials before we get too exuberant about it, but it is a promising step. Long journeys, first steps. Elizabeth yeah. It took years to, when you talk about vaccines, it took years to get ebola vaccine or a mumps vaccine. Doctors recommend taking vitamind. It boosts your immune system. There is worries about japans flu drug, avigan out of fujifilm. It could create birth defects which we saw birth defects from solimid in the 50s and 60s. Final word . My in box is full of all kinds of suggestions that might work. What we say, in god we trust. All others must provide clinical data. Lets see Clinical Trials to practice evidencebased medicine. Take it easy, do it right, we can take the best care of our patients. Doctor, good to see you. Great having you on. Thank you so much. Thank you, liz. Byebye. Elizabeth this is a hot story. Its a hot debate. Look what is happening in texas. The Texas Attorney general calling on a judge to free a dallas hair salon owner. He put her in jail for seven days, threatened to, because xi defied orders against reopening. The latest highstakes, highdrama showdown to rev up the economy. We have former trump 2016 Campaign Deputy manager david bossie next on that outrage. At Fisher Investments, we do things differently and other Money Managers dont understand why. Because our way works great for us but not for your clients. Thats why were a fiduciary, obligated to put clients first. So, what do you provide . Cookie cutter portfolios . Nope. We tailor portfolios to our clients needs. But you do sell investments that earn you high commissions, right . We dont have those. So, whats in it for you . 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Watch the judge eric moyer ask Shelley Luther would make a statement admitting to the court she was wrong and selfish to keep her business open. She said instead, quote, feeding my kids is not selfish. Watch this. Sir, when you say im selfish, because feeding my kids is not selfish. I going hungry because they would rather feed their kids. So, sir, if you think the law is more born than kids getting fed, then please go ahead with your decision but im not going to shut the salon. Elizabeth the judge ordered her jailed for seven days. Texas ag saying stop that. Dont do that. Dont put her in jail. Your reaction to this . First of all this judge, he should be humiliated. This was an incredibly stupid and tin eared decision that he rendered. This, look, he put her in jail for seven days, fined her 7,000. There is no bail opportunity. No way to go home. She went to a jail cell. This is outrageous conduct, when dallas county, exact area where she is, is releasing hardened criminals back into society to protect them from corona but putting a woman who is trying to provide not just for herself, but for her employees families, she is letting her employees work. They werent doing it willynilly. They were not throwing caution to the wind. They were using smart, you know, procedures that the cdc, they were doing the right things but they were open. This is government run amok. And im glad that lieutenant, the Lieutenant Governor of texas offered to pay her fine, dan patrick. What a amazing guy to stand up to say that today. We hope she is better off when this is over. But what an outrage. Elizabeth put her in a jail system where covid19, there could be, flying all around that jail. Texas governor, said, open hair salons. Then the judge throwing her for seven days in a jail. I mean, let me back un. Weve got two go ahead, dave, take that on. No. The judge issues the ruling, within hours, the governor of the state issues a ruling to open all the barbershops and salons and a few other businesses. So the judge should have automatically let her out. Instead he is standing on his principle. I think it is outrageous. It shows what is wrong with big government. Somebody who never wanted to be a texan, i appreciate what she, what she did. That is a courageous thing for that texan to do. Elizabeth so there is two fights happening here. Weve got, lets go to michigan. The republicanled state legislature is suing the governor of michigan over the draconian orders, stopping landscaping and gardening. We see these fight breaking out across the country with these draconian orders. Then critics are attacking President Trump for saying yesterday, you got to reopen despite people possibly getting sick and dying. So you see that fight happening. People are asymptomatic for this disease, they could be incubating it for two weeks with asymptomatic. You see two fights. Take that on. Governor whitmer is doing the exact opposite of what governors are doing. She is doing a terrible job a horrible job, and i hope the people of michigan rise up against her. Every governor across the state has their own situation but numbers about cases in michigan have been going down and they have been going down steadily over the last many days. So it is not like they have a rising number of cases or a spike in deaths. They are on the downhill slide. It is when governors are saying we must open up, were opening slowly, smartly, methodically, not governor whitmer. She is none of those. Really republicans in, this becomes a political football. It shouldnt be. Look what President Trump has done through his leadership, working with governors on both sides of the aisle, cuomo and gavin newsom and others who are praising him and he is praising them. That is what should be happening. There should be no politics here. Governor whitmer is trying to become the vp nominee and i think this is backfiring on her. I think this helps President Trump wins michigan come back november. Elizabeth well see. You know, the governor of new york saying that the covid19 doesnt kill democrats or republicans. It kills everybody, if you get it, if you get really sick with it, you it cokill you. He is saying it is apolitical. Stop with the politicization of the virus. Dave bossy, thanks so much for joining us. Really appreciate it. Thanks for having me. Elizabeth next up venezuela arenting two american former soldiers on suspicion of getting into the country to try to overthrow communist dictator Nicolas Maduro. You can see them on the far left and far right, detained by soldiers. Were bringing in retired fourstar general jack keane on this story next im susan and im 52 and i live in san francisco, california. 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Two former u. S. Special forces soldiers associated with a florida based private Security Firm silver corps. They were served in iraq. Led from a fishing boat, being arrested. What is going on with this story . Why did they think they could go over throw the dictator there . That is a great question. This operation actually began last year when there was protested by the Venezuela Army members against the Nicolas Maduro regime. That was supposed to lead other senior people joining that, but never happened. It got into the mind of retired Major General akila, who organized a meeting in boeing ga to, colombia, where other former Venezuela Army leaders attended and jordan gudir, a head of a private Security Company named silver corpse. That is where the special forces got involved. He is a former special forces medic himself. Out of this grew an organization of about 300 strong. They organized themselves in Training Camps in colombia with the venezuela border. They were primitive. That is understatement. Lack of running water, ammunition, people using broomstick handles to simulate weapons. This was a group, the plan was to go into venezuela. Conduct raids on Venezuela Army barracks and bases, get the members there, once it was seized to join the movement and therefore create an insurgency and Major Military opposition to the reg dispeople. Eventually over time, depose the maduro and capture him. Now listen, that would be a formidable task for any military organization that had good leadership, a lot of people and a lot of resources. It still may fail. This thing was destined to fail from the beginning. It was overly ambitious, ill conceived. The plan is naive. It underestimates the cale of difficulty and underestimates the capacity of the Venezuela Army which policed these folks up rather quickly. Some within less than 24 hours of them stepping on venezuelan soil. So yeah, this is extraordinary how poorly done this was in terms of planning and execution. Elizabeth do you believe the administration when it stays it had no idea this was going on . Do you believe juan guaido is saying he had nothing to do with them . Maduro was saying they hired mercenaries that signed a 212 milliondollar contract with juan guaido using stolen money from pedevesa and there are stories that the leader of this is associated with President Trumps bodyguard . Do you believe juan guaido and president had nothing to do with this and didnt know about it . They are saying they have no u. S. Involvement. Listen the colombia Intelligence Service is certainly aware what has happened. They knew there were Training Camps in colombia, near the venezuela border. Liking knew the meeting where all the Venezuela Army leaders were gathering in their capital city. So if the colombian Intelligence Service understood something was happening, likely the u. S. Intelligence understood it. Once they understood it no way they would go anywhere near that. They knew it had no Political Support from juan guaido who is the president of venezuela in name only. One of his colleagues did attend that significant meeting that took place in bogota. He walked out of the meeting characterizing it as a Suicide Mission destined to fail. I think there is a lot of fake news out of here in terms of colombian involvement in supporting it. The United States involvement, no, there is none. Juan guaidos involvement at least on surface of it, there is none there whatsoever. I dont buy into any of that. However, here is something that is factual. Maduro is using this to strengthen his position which is likely to happen. He is showing himself as a power man, as a dominant force, that youre trying to invade his country. He is going to defeat you. He is broadcasting this out on his National Television every single hour, pictures that youre displaying here, the venezuelan people by now are sick of seeing. But that is, he is exploiting the situation to increase his status, certainly among his own people. Elizabeth when juan guaido is now saying he is now mass massacring people. There is some indication for them to say to launch such a naive endeavor, there may be some weakness on the part of the military moving away from Nicolas Maduro to even think they could venture out and do this . Well, i think they read the signs wrong last year. Obviously there was no outbreak by the venezuelan army. There was a small protest at one of the bases and some of the senior generals, if you recall that period were supposed to turn against maduro and that could have been the thing for all the cards to fall down and none of that happened. I think this guy, so our audience should understand, retired Major General is in a u. S. Prison, has been there for a month as a narcotrafficker. He is allegedly a smuggler of guns and weapons to the colombian farc, which is an acronym for the insurgent narco organization trying to depose the government in colombia. Listen the cast of characters we have involved in this operation certainly are in question and their military prowess and capability and abilities are certainly in question as well. Elizabeth general jack keane, we always value your insights, your perspective, always terrific. Which we thank you for your service. Great to see you, general jack keane. Thank you, liz. Elizabeth same here. Republican congresswoman debbie lesko on a new show showing joe biden is losing ground to President Trump amid allegations from former staffer tara reade who says that then senator joe biden sexually assaulted her in the early 90s. Weve got this story coming up next. Stay right there. Need help like never before and wells fargo employees are finding ways to do our part. 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And you know, the democrats are such hypocrites when Brett Kavanaugh was going through nomination hearings, they were ruthless. Democrats were ruthless. Believe the woman no matter what. As if women, women can tell the truth and women can lie, believe me, and so can men t was ridiculous back then when all of these democrats said you have to believe the woman and they went after Brett Kavanaugh and it was ruthless. Now for them to say, oh, you know, i believe in joe biden and you know, the main street media does the same thing. It is absolutely hypocritical. Nobody knows except those two what actually happened. I think there is a legitimate complaint, needs to be investigated, but you know, we dont know. We cannot say for sure, only those two know for sure, but, boy, the democrats sure are hypocrites. Elizabeth you know, there is, tara reade is one of eight woman that joe biden acted inappropriately around them. We dont know, there could be more beyond that. Critics say to your point the troubling hypocrisy media and the movement, but believe all women but not tara read. Watch House Speaker nancy pelosi, saying she is done with the tara reade story, wants to shut it down. Listen to this. Is this a closed issue and what is your response. It is for me. Im proud to support joe biden as president. I believe him when he says it didnt happen. I also believe him when he says let them look into the record. That is what they should do. I will not answer this question again. Elizabeth she says she doesnt want to answer it, doesnt want to talk about it anymore, your take. Of course she doesnt. She is all about politics and all about grabbing power. That is why they went after judge kavanaugh. They didnt want him in there. They knew he was a conservative so they ruthlessly attacked him. It as awful. It backfired on them. Now they dont want to talk about it. I believe joe biden. The hypocrisy of these people is just unending. We saw it in the judiciary committee, the impeachment, the russia hoax, they will nothing to take out President Trump and it is absolutely disgusting. The hypocrisy is unbelievable. Elizabeth congressman lesko, great to have you on. Come back soon. Thanks very much. I love being on. Elizabeth okay. Next up, Top Republican on the house judiciary jim jordan, he is saying fbi, investigate yourself. Answer just how you bungled the whole Michael Flynn fiasco. He is our guest after the break. Stay there. Tell me, what did verizon build their network for . People. And when peoples every day is being challenged. Thats when a Network Shows what its made of. Verizon customers are making an average of over 600 million calls and sending nearly 8 billion texts a day, every day. Businesses are using verizons added capacity to keep them connected with customers. And when people are depending on you for those connections. What do you do . Whatever it takes. 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You can count on us. Elizabeth lets welcome Ohio Republican jim jordan, Ranking Member of house judiciary and oversight. Great to see you, congressman. Your take on these newly revealed fbi documents showing that fbi officials debated whether to, quote, the goal was to get Michael Flynn to lie so we could prosecute him or get him fired, even for violating the logan act . What was your reaction when you saw it . They set up a threestar general. They set up a guy that served our country for over three decades, lieutenantgeneral Michael Flynn. Take it in context, liz. Remember what they did in the summer of 2016. They opened you investigation to then candidate trump. Spied on two american citizens associated with his campaign. Used famous dossier, salacious, unverified dossier, jim comeys words, not mine. The does say was false and paid by Clinton Campaign and christopher steele, the guy who wrote it, told the Justice Department he was desperate to stop trump. They used it as basis to spy on go individuals. They get into the first few days of the jump administration. They sneak over to the white house. Dont do proper protocol. Dont notify the white house theyre coming over. Sneak two agents in there to talk to Michael Flynn. When did chris way learn about this . Why did we find out about the work of bill barr and sidney p. O. W. , Michael Flynns lawyer . Why didnt bill barr send him a letter. We certainty him a letter . Why didnt you tell us when you knew about it . One of the agents, went the day, days into the administration we want to talk to the agent, to find out what took place in that interview. Elizabeth because people are saying, this is not the america we know. This is not east germany. Are you now demanding the fbi investigate former fbi director james comey and fbi teams handling of the flynn case . Well Elizabeth Sidney powell doesnt think Christopher Wray is the guy to do it. That is what john durham is doing. God bless Sidney Powell, bill barr and work of john durham. We wouldnt know about the situation of mike flynn if the attorney general doesnt put u. S. Attorney jeff jensen in the st. Louis area, tasked him to look at the flynn case. So look, that is for john durham. Well see what happens there but i do think jim comey, the guy who was in charge when all this happened, everything i just described happened, i do think they need to give him a hard look, see what went on there, youre right, liz, think about this. If they can do it to a threestar general, if they can do this to the president of the United States, imagine what they can do to you and me . Imagine what they can do to 750,000 people i get privilege representing in the Fourth District of ohio and any of the 330 Million People who live in this great country. Imagine what they can do. That is why this is so fundamental. Why we get to the bottom of it. Why we want the documents. Why we want the agents to get to mr. Flynn. Elizabeth look at timeline, it is astonishing, trump, flynn, comey, and you just look at what happened. The timeline is this. Chuck schumer tells Rachel Maddow, january 23rd, 2017 set of, you mess with the Intelligence Community they have six ways from sunday to get back at you. Then you have comey going to the white house basis saying, were going to talk to the president , yeah, then, he was just newlyelected trump, in trump tower and talk to him about the steele dossier which has been debunked. Then he gets it leaked to the media. Peter strzok, then they will shut the case on Michael Flynn. They dont have any use for him from the trump russia probe. Peter strzok keeps it open, 7th floor, powerful senior management, they set him up without even defense or lawyer present. They cook up a crime. They try to get him to lie without a lawyer present . This is, this is wild stuff. And if they dont investigate it, if the fbi doesnt get to the bottom of it, what happens . Well, lets hope john durham does. Youre right, liz, that 3 1 2 week time period, starting on january 3rd, Chuck Schumer says on the Rachel Maddow show, if you mess with the Intel Community they have six ways from sunday getting back to you. Look how they got back at him. The very next day two agents investigating general flynn said we should drop this case, there is nothing there. Peter strzok says no, no, hang on, january 4th. Peter strzok says hang on, we dont want to drop it, comey, mccabe, told me not to drop it. Two days later, january 6th, meeting you referenced at trump tower. They tried to set up the president of the United States. They briefed him on dossier that was false, briefed him on the Clinton Campaign. Russian disinformation. Two weeks later they set up Michael Flynn. That happens first few weeks of january 2017. That is how bad this was, how egregious this was. You know what else we want . We want the original 30. When they do the interview, they take notes. We want original one. Not the one peter strzok changed. So we want to know, where is that original 302 . We would like to see that. We would like to talk to again elizabeth say that again. Wait, saying that, because peter strzok and lisa page edited the original 302 Interview Form with Michael Flynn. Right. Elizabeth do you think it will say we found nothing, flynn said nothing wrong and then do you think they altered it and amped it up and is that a crime . We dont know what it will say. We havent seen it. This is something Michael Flynns lawyer, general flynns lawyer Sidney Powell is trying to get access to as well but we want to see that original document, we want to see how it was changed. We referenced the text message between peter strzok and lisa page where peter strzok said we changed it. Tried to keep it in the agents voice. We think that is mr. Pianca. We want to talk to him as well. We want to interview individual and original document and that is couple things we asked for in the letter we sent to director wray earlier this week. Elizabeth then susan rice unusual email saying everything under the Obama Administration was done quote, by the book. Your final word own that. I mean look, that was the day who they were leaving. Who knows why xi did it. That looks suspect, remember susan rice, this is the same individual, i was on benghazi select committee. This is the same individual who went on sunday show lied to American People five different times on five different sunday shows, tried to blame the benghazi attack on a video. It was a planned attack t wasnt a protest. It wasnt because of some video t was a planned attack by a terrorist group. That is the suzanne rise put that email together. We want facts if this can happen to the general and president , it can happen to us. Elizabeth got to go. Congressman, great to see you, come back soon. Thank you. 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