First appearance on any ballot had an absolutely dismal performance despite spending hundreds of millions of dollars on his own money on campaign ads. He dropped out the next day and backed biden. Another poor super tuesday performance with Elizabeth Warren she quit on thursday. Big reason for clarity in the race was a decision earlier by two moderate to left candidates mayor Pete Buttigieg and senator Amy Klobuchar to end their campaigns before super tuesday and like bloomberg, through their support behind biden. Former Vice President got orourke of texas. Now many see this as rising concern among establishment democrats, the insiders, socalled insiders for the nomination of sanders to be a crushing defeat. Absolutely dire consequences for down ballot Democratic Candidates facing tough fights and purple states. Meanwhile biden, who a few weeks ago was seen as finished following his lackluster showing to the earlier states, became the favorite once again afters blowout win in South Carolina last saturday which helped drive his super tuesday success that is now turned him into the clear front runner. So where do we stand . With the field significantly whittled down will we be seeing a mono on mono saunders biden right of way to the walkie convention . Most importantly whether dividing or sanders, what would he have to do to beat President Trump . He has to give us his insights into 2020 election of the democratic race is david. He helped orchestrate president Barack Obamas 2008 victory as Campaign Manager and later served as an advisor and the obama white house. He is out with a new book this week, the citizens guide to beating donald trump. David welcome thank you for joining us. Lets start with your book, its a funny character kind of a howto guide for voters who want to defeat donald trump after learning some of the lessons of 2016 a what went wrong from the democratic perspective last time, you make the point theres probably at least 65 million voters you say, who are committed to defeating donald trump. And to some extent the 2020 election will be chart determined by by how you get those voters out and how you grow those voters. Tell us kind of the advice youve given in the book. I think theres lessons or for any election. But given the president ial election is right in front of us a lot of people are focus on that, trump has a lot of assets, hes an incumbent president cummins got a lot of money, is that a very powerful infrastructure around them, we do not have a Similar Network and we are going to have a nominee who comes out with the partied thats not completely unified. So we need every individual american who wants to seed trump defeated to take ownership of that what your individual plan for action . To register voters, to create content, to use your social Media Networks in a more effective way to persuade people because this election it will come down to ten wheel register enough voters comically turn amount, kingly prevent thirdparty flight risk which happened in 2016 thats why trump was able to win battleground states we can have that happen again if youre a democrat. And there are real persuadable voters out there, the famous trump obama voters there some suburban voters who didnt vote for him that will vote for them because the battles doing well. The president ial election will be decided by a couple Million People tops. So the individual person if you can have an impact on two or three people who might vote who wouldnt vote or help persuade them to vote democrat, that in and of itself you think what does that matter. But if you have enough people doing it can make a big difference. Gerry you are famously as i said in the introduction one of the architects and president obamas victory in 2008 and again in 2012. You honestly admit in the book and youve admitted in the past, you got 2016 wrong. You really didnt think Hillary Clinton would lose. What are the lessons from 2016, the mistakes that hillary made, that the campaign made that encompass all frankly made purred what we get wrong . The biggest problem was underestimating, the models all got this wrong. There are counties that move 33 of iowas county obama won then trump won. They werent fivepoint clips they wholesale 2030 points. Almost like different elect oriole scenarios. We did not get turn out as high as we needed everywhere. Turnout was okay in philadelphia, is very poor in detroit and milwaukee. The other thing hillary lost economic battle on who can you trust to fight for you . That is something she actually won against us and zero eight so surprised to see that. Gerry was hillary a problem people were just not willing to come out of vote for her . Some of it was a lack of passion she struggled with young minority voters. Some might of been the sense she had in the bag. The complacency. And then they ran really strong campaigns in pennsylvania and florida where hillary actually got good turnout trump just got better. Obviously they did not put the kind of Campaign Together they needed detroit to milwaukee and they paid the price for that. Gerry the president is now the income it, thats a tremendous advantage coming with that. Got a strong economy, well have to see is going on with the coronavirus, but as we speak unemployment at 50 year low common flesh and his good people are content with the way the economy is. You also have a pretty divided Democratic Party the unified Republican Party united around a president has got a successful policy record if you like, for a lot of voters, that is suggesting the challenge in 2020 is going to be much harder for democrats that it appeared in 2016. I spent a lot of time on both of these issues, the economy and the unification of my book. The economy yes, we have a statistically healthy economy it may be tested by the coronavirus. A lot of voters still arent feeling great about wages. A lot of voters when they really learn the extent to which trumps tax cuts went, the companies didnt create jobs, we are already in a manufacturing recession technically in wisconsin there is an economic argument to made that he said he was in a fight for people hes done just the opposite. I know this, move into the reelection obama with 12 the stock market was resurgent that was not a reason to vote the present trade most swing voters dont see themselves in the stock market. Gerry but they do measure by the availability of jobs and income. Has ever been a time in history when unemployment has fallen steadily during a president s an incumbent president s term which wages have risen because most of her lower ends workers in the presence got on to lose election . Do most of those lower and workers feel like theyre making the shed . I do not. They filled the economies will too much inequality . Yes they do. They are not the way things are going. I think the greatest analogy may be 2000. Clinton did not run for reelection, but al gore watches the session election with unemployment under 3 . So unification, i think if we dont beat donald trump, the fact that we did not unify after the primary but with the top of the list, but we dont do it right its hard to build the foundation. So i talk in you happy cognizant of this. Some people are just an essay tough primary, my person didnt win, im ready to do battle. A lot of people be raw. The victor has to spend time, resources, lesage abided as the nominee. And you lived in michigan. You know the 20 name volunteers for Bernie Sanders community you need to reach out to them, have coffee with them, have a beer at them i mentally theyll say we thought you guys play dirty or wasnt there. You need to. You can unify. Gerry david stay with us, more on the 2020 race in a particular who the democratic nominee to take on President Trump in november. Stay with us. Im your mother in law. And i like to question your every move. Like this left turn. Its the next one. You always drive this slow . How did you make someone i love . 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This coming tuesday, we have another set of primaries. Michigan which i think biden might be favored to win now. But clinton lost it to sanders prayed lets say Bernie Sanders wins, delegates are roughly split. Biden is probably going to win mississippi by 30 to 40 points for his of his get annette a lot of delegates. Its about what if you look at their maiden contest, you only acquire delegates and a two or three person race if you are winning by huge margins. If you win the state comments bragging rights a lot of delegates. Florida, georgia, mississippi, louisiana, all Southern States were biden will probably rack up huge margins huge delegates. I think it is almost certain hes going to end the nomination of the delegate leader. Gerry what happened . A week ago just hold of South Carolina, we thought biden would win South Carolina, bernie was wellplaced or super tuesday. And suddenly in the space of a few days the reit embraces complete turnaround prayed what happened question works two so is important to remember politics, its always easier to get back voters and support you had the temporarily lost and you never had. Bloomberg spent 650 million went zero to 16 hard to go the rest away. Biden spent all of last year as the national pulido. In the 30s. He has some pork debates, underperformed in iowa and new hampshire. A lot of those voters had been with biden went under cited in sahl bloomberg. He had a good night South Carolina starts performing a little bit better, get those endorsements from rivals, it all came back. So, the thing that is remarkable to me, is he did it completely on the wings of momentum. He did not have money, organization or time. So the question is if he can combine some more money and organization, and Campaign Time in the upcoming states the rest of march, without momentum, i think hes going to continue to grow. This is all about in a twoperson race, who can consistently get more than 50 . Bernie sanders has not shown the ability to grow his current base. And biden didnt just rack up numbers of africanamericans yesterday, he did exceedingly wellin suburban areas and some bluecollar areas. Gerry Mike Bloomberg pulled out of the race and endorse joe her biden is at a. Well yeah, probably 75 to 80 of the vote bloomberg was getting ghost of biden. That will grow bidens number. We will see a bloomberg does, but we need Michael Bloomberg to beat donald trump. So maybe not today and tomorrow, but in the nottoodistant future, he will continue his Campaign Machinery aimed at trump. And actually, i would love to see some comparative as on trump and biden. I think that would help for the general, but also help biden look like the nominee. Kennedy s Democratic Party endanger making the mistake it made in 2016 which is nominating the traditional, insider, inside washington experienced candidate, doesnt really excite voters very much, looks kind of safe, and campaigns on that for the republicans have this whatever you think of him this varied symantec content dynamic. Theyre excepting that new candidate Bernie Sanders. I think it making that mistake again is a risk . We dont really have a party meters the voters that made the decision. I think in part, because they seemed biden is a person, and he does have the hasnt performed super strongly, he is not a young freshfaced compay doesnt create the kind of a doozy has been young voters. But they see him as steady. There are a lot of voters in these battleground states is sam inclined to vote against trump is theres an alternative i can live with. Thats biden. We do have to create more energy. Trump is going to create massive turnout. Anybody that looks like a mega voter he is fighting them, hes going to register them and turn them out. Im very concerned about that as a democrat. Secondly trump runs mad max rode the crazy move with fire and fighting, that his trunk. He is the middle of the circus. He is a social media first, blunt force of messenger. Joe bidens and come up with a policy, give a speech about doing an interview. So weve got to figure out how to deal with trump. The debate worries me the last assuming they will happen. Its the daytoday prosecution of the Campaign Work trump sucks up the oxygen. Trump also understands its memes and gifts and pictures, thats how we communicate today its intuitive to him. Gerry that he is very much a modern candidate. He got another take a quick break we come back we will look further ahead to november and see if the democrats can actually unite behind a nomination. Stay with us. When cravings come on strong, be stronger. With nicorette coated ice mint. 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But if biden really stumbles and bernie gets ahead, my suspicion is this is not going to go all the way to the convention. I think we will know who the nominee is by april. We made a lot of mistakes of last few weeks, what will he be looking for in a Vice President . I have been deeply involved in this before a pick somebody if you win you want by your side. By the way trump didnt take payments because he thought it would help in the election, some 90 of this is dont make a mistake. Dont play it too cute. Then in the campaign you want somebody who does not hurt you. I think it is likely, hiding or sanders you are looking generationally. Quite a bit younger. Maybe somebody with diversity, gender, though it be the list to start with. But for candidates its there and talk to six people and the only person i really jive with is this person, who may not fit that criteria but i think theyll optimize for that. Gerry Kamala Harris maybe. Amy klobuchar . You got to female senators in nevada, you got newly elected governor in michigan, was a woman paid there is some good talent you got val demings of the congresswoman theres impeachment manager, he started the decent list. I think therell be cement on it too, but i think you would optimize for a woman, and if you could, look for diversity racially. Gerry so if it is biden lets not get ahead of ourselves, you make this point in the book, party unity is going to be absolutely critical. In a divisive process, the Bernie Sanders supporters you know feel once again they have been slightly cheated so far up until now, theyre going to be pretty hostile. Can they come around, and can biden, if it is him bring those voters out . I think the majority of Bernie Sanders supporters will say they will be disappointed, but they will say okay i will support the democratic nominee. But not all of them and you need all of them. The biden campaign, fee is the nominee is going to be be very thoughtful about welcoming inclusive. I think you treat that campaign as intensely as you would winning wisconsin or arizona. If he not go through the motions . And make sure people understand even if you vote with your nose held, counts the same the tally is someone who has a biden bumper sticker. If its the only way to get rid of trump, we have to focus. Its going to take a lot of effort. I do think the fact that biden is doing really well, therell be less this notion that this was taken from bernie. Biden is doing well. Gerry do you think so . Theres been this sense that the establishment strikes back the death star strikes back. So ive worked in Democratic Politics for a long time id like to meet this establishment i wish we were that organized. He is doing this with africanamerican voters, he won College Educated women and tuesday states. The coalition is Strong Enough you hard to say all of those voters are somehow rigging the game. But the biden campaign, if again if they are the nominee, you better treat this unification thing deadly serious. Gerry finally your former boss could play a role in that. Do you expect him to come out soon and try to unify the party . So i think is handled is exactly right is the voters seem to make that decision for a whoever our nominee as they need to earn it fully. I think he can be helpful in the bakken on unification. But the most important part of unification, if you supported joe biden and eau claire wisconsin, you have a responsibility as a volunteered to say okay birdie people lets get together, how can wework together. Thats how its going to happen. I have no doubt that if joe biden is the nominee Bernie Sanders be standing right by him saying luster of the weekend to get rid of trump. But its on all of us to bring that altogether and it does not happen automatically. 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Two weeks ago he was ancient history, finished, deader than elvis. They gave them no chance the betting markets gave him a 9 chance of winning the democratic nomination for thats only slightly better than the odds of picking an ace from a deck of cards. Now since super tuesday, he is invincible. A brokered convention, forget about it. He could have this whole thing wrapped up next month. Now whether or not you like the sudden change, you certainly have to marvel at the ability of events to remind us in the words of a great screenwriter, nobody knows anything. Capacity to surprise, and confound people you want to tell them was going on is a simple joy to watch. It is after all, why we vote. But there is a message for us pundits here. The media these days is now full of socalled experts telling us not what happened but whats going to happen. Not finding out what is going on, but telling us what should be going on. If we all spend a little more time listening, and less time pontificating and prognosticating, we would all be better informed. Thats us for this week, for the additional updates be sure to follow me on twitter, facebook an instagram. I will be back here next week with more indepth interviewon t large, thank you for joining. Im check out or coming up our exclusive interview with New York Stock Exchange president Stacey Cunningham on the effective coronavirus on the markets, trading and more. But we begin with what we