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The attorney general William Barrs trip to italy amid the justice departments review of the origins of the russia probe. There is speculation that part of the trib concerned the man who mr. George papadopoulos says told him that russia had Hillary Clintons email as part often trapment. Also, china expert Jonathan Ward is here on how beijing is eying the impeachment inquiry what impact it could have on the upcoming trade talk set to begin on october 10 all that and a lot more here right now on sunday morning futures. And the white house is preparing to send a letter to nancy pelosi tomorrow morning, refusing to cooperate with the house impeachment inquiry, until the speaker holds a floor vote on the matter which is typical for any impeachment. Here is President Trump on friday. President trump well well be issuing a letter, as everybody knows, weve been treated very unfairly, very different from anybody else, if you go over not only history, you go over any aspects of life, youll see how unfarley weve been treated. Everything to me is about corruption. We want to find out what happened with 2016 and as you know, theres a lot of work going on for that. I dont care about bidens campaign, but i do care about corruption. Maria this as pelosi defends her decision to launch the inquiry over a whistleblower complaint on the president s dealings with ukraine. Some people say why are you doing this . Hes not worth it. To divide the country, so he may not be, but our constitution is worth it. Our democracy is worth it. [applause] maria and breaking news this morning, the attorney for the first whistleblower is now confirming that his team represents what hes calling multiple whistleblowers, according to that attorney, at least one of them has firsthand knowledge of the president s july phone call with the president of ukraine. This as we wait to find out when the first whistleblower may testify behind closed doors. Joining me right now is republican senator from South Carolina Lindsey Graham the chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee. He also sits on the Senate Appropriations Foreign Relations and budget committees mr. Chairman always a pleasure to eso you thanks for joining me thanks for having me. Maria so ive got to get your reaction to this week. It was an incredible week actually. The president is going to send that letter to nancy pelosi tomorrow. Basically saying you need to hold a house floor vote for impeachment. Whats your reaction to all thats taken place so far . Well, nancy pelosi mentioned democracy in the constitution. One of the most democratic things you can do in a democracy is to have the elected representative vote on issues important to the country, so its imperative that democrats vote to open up articles of impeachment inquiry, not just talk about it. Dont hide behind nancy pelosi. Its very important that the house vote on whether or not we should go forward on impeachment thats the democratic way of doing business. Its the most consequential two weeks of the 2020 election. What happened in the last two weeks . Joe biden who was leaking the campaign is just completely imploded. I think hes probably done. Hes the biggest victim of the whistleblower complaint, because now, we know, that his son was receiving 50,000 a month from the ukraine gas company, while joe was in charge of the ukraine portfolio, and 1 billion plus from a subsidiary of a china bank based on qualifications so i think this is a nightmare for the biden campaign. Bernie sanders has a heart attack, um, nancy pelosi is now trapped. She embarked on impeachment inquiry based on a transcript she hadnt read, and here is what i would like fox or somebody to do. Go to every republican and ask the question do you believe the transcript itself is an impeach able offense . What the president said on the transcript is that is impeach able offense . I think history dick you had us to say that the president did something wrong based on the phone call, and i think everybody in the media should go to the democrat and ask them why arent you voting to open up an impeachment inquiry . Its been a hell of a couple of weeks and the biggest beneficiary quite frankly has been Elizabeth Warren and donald trump. Maria and so walk us through the timeline and sort of how this played out. Hypothetically speaking lets say the house does vote to impeach President Trump. Where does the senate fit in and then what happens . Will the senate then take it up, right . Well theres two votes. You need a vote to open up an impeachment inquiry. In 1998 we voted to open up an impeachment inquiry against bill clinton, a month before the election with 31 democrats joining us, joining in. Pelosi is opening up an inquiry by herself. Every democratic member of the house needs to be on record. Do you agree with nancy pelosi that the transcript is enough to impeach President Trump . Remember when pelosi said that the transcript will show a quid pro quo . It does not. Theres nothing wrong with this phone call. It is okay for the president and others to look into corruption in the ukraine. Three Democratic Senators wrote a letter to the ukraine government asking them to cooperate with mueller and if you dont you may lose your aid. Its also okay to look into whether or not there was corruption in the ukraine going the other way. Theres a politico article january 2017, maria, that suggests that the dnc was receiving help from the ukraine. We need a special counsel to look at whether or not the dnc was working with people inside the ukraine, and somebody needs to look at the bidens and whether or not they violated the law outside of politics. Maria yeah is there any appetite for another special counsel here . We just came off of one with the Mueller Probe and you say that it is important to look at whether or not the dnc worked with ukraine against the u. S. Well lets look at it this way. Everybody said mueller would be an independent guy, and i think he was and what happened . He cleared trump. There was no collusion between the Trump Campaign, and the russians and why do we know that because mueller spent two years and 25 million looking at it. Has anybody looked at the dnc ukraine connection . No they have not and i love rudy guiliani. Hes a good lawyer for the president. Hes defending the president s interests, but the Mueller Investigation is over. Its not rudys job to find out if the bidens did something wrong. Id like somebody outside of politics to look at the bidens like mueller looked at the trump s. Remember the trump tower deal with russia . That was looked at by mueller. Somebody needs to look at the bidens regarding the ukraine and china. Maria maybe but thats not happening right now. In fact the president s skeptics are only ramping up. The president just tweeted this morning, about or last night rather about this second whistleblower and he writes this. The first socalled secondhand information whistleblower got my phone conversation almost completely wrong, now word is they are going to bench him and another whistleblower is coming in from the deep state. Also with secondhand, meet with shifty, keep them coming whats your reaction to the idea that there could be another whistleblower out there and the lawyer says no, its not one im receipting many whistleblowers . Are these all whistleblowers about one phone call that he had with the president of ukraine do you think . I dont know but remember kavanaugh . Remember kavanaugh that started with one complaint that wound up being unverifiable, a complaint against judge kavanaugh and a party that took place in high school 30 years ago, without any notice of where it happened and when it happened, and everybody described to be there said it didnt happen, and five more allegations came after that. What did we learn in kavanaugh . That they were coaching witnesses and they were piling on to try to create an impression that judge kavanaugh was a flawed human being. This is kavanaugh all over again the second whistleblower if there is one, are they within the Intel Community and what is it about the Intel Community and trump that is so off base here, and did schiff do with the whistleblower the first one what they did with kavanaugh witnesses coach them up . Maria well i think you make a lot of important points and i have to go back to one or two right now because first of all when you bring up brett kavanaugh, i actually had a similar thought last week when we learned that after adam schiff said he never spoken to the whistleblower, then we learned that no, actually that was not true that in fact the whistleblower contacted his committee first, and his staff or him did in fact meet, so why that . I mean was he coaching the whistleblower the way we learned later that the Intel Committee and adam schiff and the democrat s spent some 30 hours with Christine Ford before she made her accusations against brett kavanaugh. Well you had a witness in denver that they spent 30 hours with. You had a lot of effort by kavanaugh, people who came forward against kavanaugh i think were coached by lawyers who were out to get trump. Maria so is it possible this whistleblower was coached is what im saying senator . I dont know. Thats what im saying. You wont know until you ask schiff. Schiff made himself a witness. If he did in fact interview the whistleblower before the complaint was filed then he becomes the witness and i want to know what was said originally the bottom line here is it does remind me a lot of kavanaugh. The media, she had another accusation that wound up being fixed, two were out and out lies people are being investigated for perjury and one lady said she went to parties on nine or 10 occasions for being drugged and raped by with kavanaugh there i would think one party would probably be enough for most people so this seems like a political setup and it reminds me of kavanaugh. Maria bottom line, you have subpoena power, chairman of judiciary. Are you going to subpoena this whistleblower . Well here is whats going to happen. If the whistleblowers allegations are turned into an impeachment article, its imperative that the whistleblower be interviewed in public under oath and cross examined. Nobody in america goes to jail or has anything done to them without confronting their accuser so here is what im going to insist upon, but the whistleblower one or two, whatever, they come forward, under oath, inform so the public can judge her credibility. If that doesnt happen in the house ill make sure it happens in the senate. Maria okay because thats one other thing being criticized about this whole process. They are doing this behind closed doors. Well speak with John Ratcliffe in a minute and he was in the room, but the American People dont know what happened, even though theres a lot of commentary about it how he completely shot down any issues that the president did something wrong, in that meeting on friday , so you will put a spotlight on it if you see that it is only being done behind closed doors you will subpoena the whistleblower then . Yeah, ill use nancy pelosi s words. This is about the constitution democracy. The sixth amendment allows people to confront witnesses against him. There can be no valid inquiry, unless democrats vote, and once you vote, there can be no valid impeachment process unless the president can confront the witnesses against him, who are these people, where did they come from, are they tied to brennan at all . These are questions id like to know. Maria ive got to ask you that john brennan because he made comments this past week saying hes concerned about a non investigation that william barr is conducting. Well take a short break but when we come back senator you made a promise on this program a long time ago, six or eight months ago saying youre going to do a deep dive into what happened, the origins of the russia probe. 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I dont understand this worldwide effort to tray to uncover dirt, either real, or imagined, that would discredit that investigation in 2016 into the russian interference. Given that barr is now accompanying on this teens it really makes me think that the hand of politics and of trump are now being used to massage, so i am concerned. Maria wow that was john brennan the former cia director were back with the chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee South Carolina senator Lindsey Graham. Senator that was rich. Your reaction to john brennan right there . Okay, i remember very well when mueller was working with rosenstein he had to report back to the department of justice, but look at all things trump. So the investigation, mr. Brennan, was around whether or not the fisa court was lied to by the department of justice and the fbi, was the dossier credible enough to get a warrant against the american citizens . Has it been verified to this day once the Counter Intelligence investigation opened up against the Trump Campaign, legitimate or was it a way to get around the law to get into the trump world . Now, horowitz, the Inspector General, has been looking at this for months, and hell report back to me, im not going to do anything until he comes before the committee. He will tell us his view of the fisa warrant application, and whether it was off the rails, the Counter Intelligence investigation, whether it was on up and up and what is bar doing, barr is being the attorney general trying to find out how the investigation against the Trump Campaign began, that is the job hes doing exactly what he should be doing, horowitz is looking inside the system to see if it got off the rails and my job is to make sure it never happens again. Maria i understand but were going to be speaking coming up with George Papadopoulos, in a few minutes, and i want to show you weve got this timeline that were going to show on screen later but i will show a little of it to you, this is the entrapment timeline and all these International Diplomats who reached o utility to George Papadopoulos, people like someone from rome, and somebody else from australia, somebody else from ukraine, and so all of these internationals that have reached out to George Papadopoulos en one years timeframe from 20162017, which is why your question a moment ago, why is it always the intel agencies that are coming after trump, and is that something that the cia would put together, gathering all of these International Diplomats to reach out to Trump Campaign people, which was the case in 2016 . Well stay tuned. Thats what horowitz is going to tell us about and ill build on what he tells us. The dossier if you believe foreign interference is wrong in our election then you should be upset by the fact that the Democratic National committee hired a former british to investigate trump by getting dirt on him from russia, the steele dossier is a bunch of political garbage unverified to this day. Why was it included in the intel assessment . Did brennan have anything to do with that because it is selacious garbage. So were going to find out about all of this, and barr should be going to italy and the uk and australia, trying to find out if their Intelligence Services were working with the cia or the fbi, to investigate the Trump Campaign. Im glad hes doing that. He should be doing that. Maria so no wonder the president brings this up to the leaders of these countries to try to find out, you know, how this information started and given that it was the first two and a half years of his presidency that people were up in arms over collusion. Very quickly, sir, my viewers are frustrated. They want some subpoenas. They want to see you do that deep dive into what took place, when can we expect your subpoena in people and who are you going to get to come down and testify . Well im going to tell you ill do it the way i think i need to do it. Im not going to get ahead of horowitz. This man is independent of politics, is appointed by obama. He did a good job in the past. Im going to look at his report and then ill buildout on it and im not out to get anybody. Im trying to find out what happened so im not going to issue subpoenas because people are frustrated. Im going to call horowitz before the committee and he will tell us about the phase a warrant application and Counter Intelligence investigation and ill go wherever the facts take us but i do want every republican to be asked, would you impeach the president , based on this transcript, the phone call between the president of the United States and the ukraine president , because if you would, i think that is just in credibly bad judgment. I want romney to be asked that. As to having china look into this, i think thats a bad idea. I dont trust anything coming out of china against biden, trump, me or you, so the bottom line is i want people to do this the right way. The right way is for horowitz to come forward, to my committee, under oath, and tell us what happened, and i promise you, ill buildout on it appropriate ly. Somebody needs to look at whether or not the dnc was involved with the ukraine. Somebody needs to look into biden whether or not they violated the law. They sure as hell looked at the trumps somebody needs to look at the bidens and i want this to be done outside of politics and i want nancy pelosi to have the courage to vote on impeachment not just talk about it. Maria well be watching the new developments senator good to see you. Good maria senator Lindsey Graham the former u. S. Special en view to ukraine resigned after being named a whistleblower in the complaint, well have John Ratcliffe when we come back. Next up. Of a different kind. Adp helps canyon ranch place the right people in the right jobs, so employees like dave can achieve what theyre working for. Liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, hmm. Exactly. So you only pay for what you need. Nice. But, uh. Whats up with your. Partner . Not again. Limu thats your reflection. Only pay for what you need. Liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty 2,000 fence posts. 900 acres. 48 bales. All before lunch, which we caught last saturday. We earn our scars. We wear our work ethic. 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This is the attorney for the first whistleblower confirms he is now representing multiple whistleblowers. Joining me right now is republican congressman from texas, John Ratcliffe he sits on the house judiciary intelligence and Homeland Security committees a former federal prosecutor and he was in the room behind the closed doors on friday, with curt volkers testimony congressman good to see you thanks for joining us. Good morning, maria. On friday, the testimony friday just for the record is clear was Michael Atkinson, and i was in the room in fact i led the questioning for the first 45 minutes for the republicans, that was thursday. Maria thank you for that i appreciate that. Can you tell us about the testimony that you heard on friday, and tell us whatever you can, behind what happened behind closed doors, im looking at an article that says testimony from ukraine enjoy curt voelker directly contradicts the democratic impeachment narrative what can you tell us . So i would love to tell your viewers about everything about both of those interviews. The reason that i cant is because the person in charge of this investigation, adam schiff, has made the decision that he doesnt want those transcripts to be out there publicly. He made that decision because those transcripts arent good for the democrats and for the narratives. What i can tell you is that i promise you that the Inspector Generals testimony on friday will shock you with respect to his investigation into the context between adam schiff and his staff and the Intelligence Committee and the whistleblower and when you see the transcript and you see what investigation was performed i think any fair person is going to agree with me that adam schiff is a material witness, his staff are material witnesses and the only way we can get good answers is to put them under oath about the type of contact, the extent of which they had with the whistleblower. Bottom line is adam schiff is a material fact witness in the investigation. He shouldnt be running the investigation. Maria so do we know that he met with the whistleblower . Initially he said we havent spoken to the whistleblower, we want to speak to the whistleblower, but then we learned after that in fact his staff has met with him, and there are, theres speculation this morning that in fact adam schiff met with the whistleblower directly. Can you confirm that . Well, think about this maria the Washington Post of all newspapers had to give adam schiff four pinochios for when he said they had not had any direct contact with the whistleblower. That wasnt true so what i can tell you is that there was contact between the whistleblower and either adam schiff and his team on the Intelligence Committee and the details of that, we all, i think the president who is there, attempting remove from office on the basis of this impeachment deserves to know what type of contact there was between adam schiff and his team and this whistleblower and we shouldnt have to take adam schiffs words for it with a word smith press release or tweet. Theres not much and we dont really need to look at that. He needs to be put under oath. He needs to answer the questions , and again, that is the reason that he should not be allowed to run the investigation where he and his team are central fact witnesses. Maria so lets go through that, because House Republican minority leader Kevin Mccarthy responded pelosis refusal to answer questions about more information about this impeachment, and hes sending a letter, he sent a letter to her last week basically saying you need to get adam schiff out of that leadership position, and youve talked to me about several reasons why you believe adam schiff cannot run this investigation. One of them is the fact that this is being done in the Intel Committee, as opposed to the Judiciary Committee. Any impeachment process, the jurisdiction is judiciary, right in the 240plus years of our history, those rare times where we have had impeachment process its always gone through the how Judiciary Committee because the how Judiciary Committee is a committee of jurisdiction over the constitution and over impeachment. Its not the Intelligence Committee. Maria so why do mem go to the intelligence then that adam schiff runs . Well i think two reasons. One, i think nancy pelosi has so little confidence apparently in jerry nadler to run this the way that she wants it. The other reason is by moving it to the Intelligence Committee, she can accomplish what they did this week. Adam schiff can say gosh, this all has to be done behind closed doors. Unlike any other impeachment in our country which is public, hes conducting this behind closed doors being making up the rules as it goes, as he wants them, as it suits his purpose, and so you have a jurisdictional problem, a problem with transparency and worst of all the guy in charge of running the investigation is a central witness in the investigation something we dont allow anywhere in this country and never have. I mean, third world countries are shocked at the kangaroo court, Banana Republic make it up as you go impeachment inquiry that the democrats are running in this country. Maria which is why the wall street journal, this past week, did an oped in the journal, titling it what did the house Intel Committee chairman know, and when did he know it . Because as i just spoke with Lindsey Graham about, if he did in fact meet this whistleblower and helped the whistleblower craft the complaint, the way we understand he did with Christine Ford, there will be a lot of pushback on this. Congressman stay with us we want to take a short break. Ive got to ask you where this is headed stay with us more with John Ratcliffe coming up. Ah come on lets hide in the attic. No. In the basement. Why cant we just get in the running car . Are you crazy . Lets hide behind the chainsaws. Smart. Yeah. Ok. If youre in a horror movie, you make poor decisions. Its what you do. This was a good idea. Shhhh. Im being quiet. Youre breathing on me if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. Its what you do. 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Unprecedented with respect to any impeachment process, and again, the extraordinary set of talking about removing a president from office and were doing it in a way thats never been done before in a committee thats never been done before, with rules that are being made up as he decides them, we literally found out on friday, chairman schiff, what the rules were with respect to the interview of the Inspector General, and he had just made up his mind that morning on what they were going to be. We should be following the established rules in how this is and again, the most important point though, maria, is that he is a fact witness. Big picture on this. The democrats have decided that its not impeachment by collusion. Its not impeachment by conspiracy its not impeachment by obstruction of justice and it all fell apart the minute Robert Mueller said i never heard of fusion gps so theyve decided its got to be this whistleblower and this call that the president has and now what are we finding out . That the person in charge of running this investigation lied to everyone about his contact with the whistleblower and help ed start the process. This is as unfair as you can possibly imagine. Its worse than the russia collusion hoax and adam schiff and anyone on his team that has contact with the whistleblower needs to be put under oath. Maria and we know that adam schiff for two years told us that there is direct evidence in plain sight of collusion, between donald trump and the russians, which of course was completely debunked. Still waiting on that. Maria im going to speak with George Papadopoulos in a few minutes and weve got this timeline that i wanted to ask you about. This is the timeline that were calling entrapment timeline, where a number, i mean, several International Diplomats reached out to George Papadopoulos, some from australia, others from britain, others from the u. S. , italy, and i want to ask you about this one that he was invited to london by stephan halper, and he introduced him to hisassistant and at that meeting in september of 2016 they had a conversation and of course now we know that that he was a spy and he was wearing a wire, that conversation was halper saying to George Papadopoulos its great that russia has these emails on hillary clinton, you must be happy, trump has to be happy and George Papadopoulos answered and said this is told to me by George Papadopoulos, he answers and says thats crazy i would never do Something Like that. Thats treason and we know that that conversation was recorded. Is that the transcript that you and trey gowdy and others have suggested is exculpatory evidence not given to the fisa court . Well if there is a transcript i think everyone would agree based on what you just said if there is a transcript of what you just related that absolutely should have been provided to the fisa court and the good news is, well get a definitive answer from the Inspector General when this report gets issued in the next week or two, about whether or not that was done. Im just telling you, that ive staked my credibility on this that i think that the information that should have been turned over to the fisa court wasnt, and that the fisa process wasnt followed, and that when james comey and adam schiff and others say that the fisa abuse idea is a bunch of nonsense that theyre wrong but well find out, plus the other point that youve been talking about maria and are going to talk about, i mean, why is it okay for the Obama Administration to send people to fbi agents to rome and to coordinate with australia and Great Britain about foreign interference in our election but when the trump adminitration and department of justice and bill barr go to the exact same places , to determine the exact same type of things, foreign interference in our election, its all of a sudden political, and that we shouldnt be doing it and ill tell you what i think the answer is because i think there are a lot of folks that are worried about finding out who really interfered more or tried to interfere more in the 2016 election. The russians or the Obama Administration. Maria yeah, do you think william barr would put adam schiff under oath . Well someone needs to put adam schiff under oath. We cant remove a president in a whistleblower process where there are legitimate questions about the role that adam schiff and his team played in that and im promising you that when you read the Inspector General transcript from friday, youll agree with me that those are questions that adam schiff and his team are going to have to answer and theres no reason, maria that transcript cant be released tomorrow and it should be. Maria we will leave it there congressman always a pleasure, thanks very much. You bet. Thanks maria. Maria an Important Note that John Ratcliffe just said that the Inspector General report hes expecting we will get it within two weeks that is the fisa abuse report. It is now in the hands of william barr. Well see if we get that report that will answer a lot of questions. We are awaiting a report from the Inspector General on the origins of the russia investigation. He just said itll be out in two weeks. Were also learning that attorney general william barr met with intelligence officials in italy this past week, to reportedly discuss one of the central figures of the russia investigation, and that is joseph mifsid, former Trump Campaign aid gop said he met with the professor in 2016 after he offered russian dirt about Hillary Clintons emails joining me is the man himself, George Papadopoulos the aid from the Trump Campaign, author of the book, deep state target and george always a pleasure to see you thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me maria. Maria so george weve been looking at this time line that we put together based on our conversations with you, and based on the documents that we have. In one years time, you had all this outreach by israeli officials, you had diplomats from britain, from the u. S. , mi fsud obviously, claims that russia had the emails back in 2016 of hillary clinton. What were you thinking when all of these people were reaching out to you asking to do meet them at conferences . Yeah, thats a really great point that you made. So essentially within 48 hours of joining the Trump Campaign, something that not even the Washington Post had reported at the time, im being invited to go to rome, with a woman who i used to work for in london who i later found out actually had a working relationship with Robert Mueller after 9 11, so thats very suspicious, and im invited to go to rome at this university where im introduced to Joseph Mifsud by none other than the former Italian Foreign minister so this happened very quickly, within 48 hours of joining the campaign before not even the American Public knew i joined, so when i was being invited all of a sudden and wooed to all these cities and conferences, something wasnt adding up white frankly. Maria so, that first meeting when arminder invited you to go to rome and introduced you to Joseph Mifsud, lets just point out that when you first joined or were considering leaving your other job, you went and you got an out reach from somebody on linkedin to come work for the London Center of International Law practice, and arminder worked there and then you found out that she was actually a close associate or friend with bruce ohr who worked in the department of justice is that right . Thats what our reports have subsequently explained about her it was something of course i had no idea about in march or april of 2016. Maria okay so wow, so shes working at the London Center of International Law practice, and she tells you shes friends with bruce ohr, of the doj. She sends you to rome to meet with mifsud. Mifsud tells you that russia has Hillary Clintons emails. George we want to talk more about this because there is more to come with this ig report out in two weeks stay with us take a short break and come right back. groans hmph. food grunting menacingly when the food you love doesnt love you back, stay smooth and fight heartburn fast with tums smoothies. Tum tumtum tum tums were changing whats possible every single day. And if you run a business, that means a lot. We create Financing Options for your customers. To help them get the things they love instantly. Our data provides insights into what your shoppers have already bought. So you can offer them what they might consider buying next. Our technology and Financial Solutions are changing whats possible in all sorts of ways. So, how can we change whats possible for you . Maria im back with former Trump Campaign aid George Papadopoulos and george weve been showing this timeline of all of these internationalists who reached out to you between 2016 and 201r the Trump Campaign. I think its really interesting that just this week you learned new information that the former Prime Minister of italy is threatening to sue you. This is exitalian Prime Minister threatening to sue George Papadopoulos. What do you think this is all about, george . Well, i think obviously somebodys connecting dots and these dots are directly leading to rome, and rome might actually be the epicenter of this entire conspiracy, even more so than london which i initially thought look, attorney general barr was recently in italy along with john durham obviously looking into Joseph Mifsuds extensive connections to both the Italian Government documents, and italian Intelligence Services and they will probably be looking into this University Link campus, and who was the Prime Minister while all of this was going on . Now all of a sudden, they had some sort of meltdown a couple days ago, hes threatening to sue me, and he went on a rant about the president , so clearly hes feeling the heat. Maria and it feels like the cia among the agencies questioned as a result of gathering all of these people together which really makes it look like this incredible network of diplomats across the world working with the cia or the fbi. Well see, were getting the Inspector General report in the next two weeks. Let me ask you about that 10,000, also as part of this network of international to reaching out to you. One of them gave you 10,000, tell me about that and where is that money today . So there is a lot of discussion with the fbi during my first interview about the israelis and my connections and what i was up to and the Energy Business over there, which was all legal. And then all of a sudden as optimistic cooperating with the fbi this individual who describes himself as an israeli american businessman wants to talk to me about the Energy Business, in theory and i go to israel with him and all of a sudden, hes dropping 10,000 in cash in my hand, and with something i had no idea of really what he wanted it for so i give it to my lawyers after i leave israel, i thought there was something very suspicious about it and as im flying to back to the United States, im basically, you know, grabbed by seven fbi agents looking for money, so clearly when i was detained i thought it was about this money. I thought it was a setup, and im hopefully this money is going to be looked into very soon, because i think it might lead to directly to the treasury maria wow so you think those bills are marked, the bills are still with your lawyer, and so you never accepted the 10,000, you gave it to the lawyer and thats where the money is right now . Yes, thats absolutely right maria george good to have you on the Program Thanks so much. An extraordinary story George Papadopoulos. Thank you. Maria thank you so much well see you soon george. Meanwhile china, how is it eying this impeachment inquiry, here at home, the meeting of between the chinese and u. S. Officials october 10, were going to talk with Jonathan Ward an expert on china next. Maria welcome back President Trump asking china to investigate former Vice President joe biden and his son, over their business dealings in china, after hunter biden received 1. 5 billion from the chinese government. How is beijing eying all of these developments amid the ukraine controversy and impeachment inquiry joining me is Jonathan Ward the founder of the atlas organization, author of the book chinas vision of victory and jonathan good to have you thanks for joining us. Thank you. Maria what do we have like a week and a half before the important trade meeting happening between the u. S. And chinese officials on october 10, how do you think china is viewing all thats gone on this past week, in the u. S. About impeachment around this president . Sure, i think theres no question that beijing likes to see the United States struggling internally, i think its incredibly critical that we maintain bipartisan unity on the china issue and there is a bipartisan awakening happening in the u. S. Government, on china , as a problem and from both sides of the aisle people are getting the picture and we just have to stay focused on what this really means. This is the biggest challenge for our country in this century, for pretty much everybody alive today in the global arena. I think we just have to make sure that were still looking at it that way. Maria this is a very serious situation. China is what youre referring to this week of course chinese are celebrating 70 years of communist rules and they dont with military parades massive, weaponry, one missile has arranged to reach the United States, anywhere in the u. S. Another missile with range to reach the south china sea. What do you think this symbolize right so on one hand the military parade unveiled a whole bunch of new Missile Technology that was the 41 is a technology that can hit the continental u. S. Key thing is to understand how beijing really thinks about america. I wanted to read a brief passage from chinas vision of victory. This is not my words but their words and this is in 2013 well before the trade war before donald trump. Here is what they say. Because the midwestern states of the United States are sparsely populated in order to improve the killing effect the nuclear killing of u. S. Soft targets should concentrate on major cities on the west coast, such as seattle, los angeles, san francisco, and san diego. Maria oh, my god. The 31 a, this is an earlier version, is launched over the north pole it can easily destroy a series of large cities on the east coast and in new england such as ann ash or, philadelphia , new york, boston, portland, baltimore and norfolk. Maria oh, my god and that is one of the weapons that they were highlighting on the military parade. Real quick as all of this is going on youve got protesters in the street for the 18th weekend in a row this weekend, is that putting pressure on xijinping because we had jimmy lion the program, and he said look ever since xijinping was put into place and dictator for life, hong kong changed. Right. Maria these are live pictures in hong kong right now. I mean, i think these young people in hong kong are really the bravest people in the world right now. 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