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Escalating trade war sending stocks plunging with dow closing down more than 600 points friday following a barrage of tweets from the president threatening to retaliate against beijing attacking Federal Reserve Jarome Powell and ordering u. S. Companies to find alternatives to doing business in china. Lets bring in wall street journal assistant Editorial Page Editor James Freeman Allysia Finley and Columnist Bill mcgurn, james, your friend has a phrase he calls the edge of chaos with trade negotiation including china and the u. S. Where each side seeks to decide who can absorb the most pain. Are we there . [laughter] we should there, also said its like a drinking, you may win but you will get hurt too along with the other guy and thats where we are, you see that in the market reaction. These are taxes, the president interestingly acknowledging they are taxes in one of his recent tweets and big reason why we have seen reduced Corporate Investment in the u. S. And around the world. Paul bill, how big a problem do you think it is . Could we spin off into a recession . Manufacturing is in contraction mode for the first time in a debate. Right well, in the short time we are already escalating, weve escalated further than weve thought before. This is game of chicken, we think we can get off the tracks before china does but its a very dangerous route to go, also the idea that you can just tell businesses to relocate, its not that they buy from a factory, they built a network with supplies and so forth, you cant just move it somewhere else, these are relationships, they are contracts and so pricing. I also think xi jinping doesnt face an election. Hes relieved of certain pressure that donald trump has. Paul i want to ask you allysia a president uses i hereby order American Companies to find, to relocate from china, i mean, that isnt something american president s can do and since when do they its not what Bernie Sanders would do lets be honest . Right, i think joe biden has actually proposed imposing tariffs on businesses and just like donald trump that try to import goods from china to the u. S. , the issue is no, you cannot order them to. Theres no way to force businesses, some of them tried to relocate already to vietnam, malaysia, mexico, proving a lot more difficult than they imagined because as bill pointed out the supply chain, the local partnerships, highly or highlyskilled workforce in china makes difficult to replicate in any other country. In the president s defense, he was ordering them to look into this possibility and i think [laughter] fair argument that very few Multinational Companies had not been looking this since he started this spat. Paul well, i think the president has a point when he says somebody needs to take on china against the predatory practices, stealing of ip, cyber theft, so much, the thing is i wonder if he has underestimated the economic harm from these big trade shocks and the fact that what bill suggested and allysia suggested you cant do this overnight and so you have a big, big damaging impact on economics on the economy that you didnt anticipate. Thats a big question and you can say it does the chinese economy more than it hurts us, the power of trump tax cuts and deregulation have been larger than the drag of his trade fights, but we really dont know how long xi jinping has. He doesnt have to face an election but he also has to deal with a chinese population that likes rising living standards. We will find out. One thing with china, the president also said, first of all, he said before that we are winning from tariffs, no costs, he seemed to have walked that back by suspending some of the tariffs he was going to put in but he also said we can do without china, this is one fifth of the worlds population, we cant do without china. I mean, the idea that first of all, have a lot of dealings with its neighbors anyway. Look, my view is that for businesses, china definitely has bad behavior, but i think the businesses assume that risk. I mean, i wouldnt invest money there but if you do, thats your the businesses decided its worth the risk to be there. Paul allysia, the attack on Jarome Powell, compared who is the bigger enemy Jarome Powell, or xi jinping . Counterproductive attack, he actually revealed that the president is worried about the economy and i think china sees this as its gaining leverage, the president is actually on defense, hes worried and i dont actually thinks 00 basis point cut in Interest Rates as the president calling will do anything, the bigger problem is trade uncertainty, its not lack of credit. Paul thats the key issue, Monetary Policy that counter act policy act . Jarome powell acknowledging remarks, this is not the answer to trade policy, i think he knows the limits, he seems to be setting table to cut more on the basis of trade uncertainty, i think thats not his job, he should focus on stabled prices and when you look at this low stable inflation environment as hes acknowledged, i dont see the chance for a cut. Paul would help if some of the other countries decide to have progrowth policies, thank you all, when we come back joe biden makes his case in new campaign ad but electability can be enough to convince democratic enough to convince democratic primary voters or does the imagine traveling hasslefree with your golf clubs. Now you can, with shipsticks. Com no more lugging your clubs through the airport or risk having your clubs lost or damaged by the airlines. Sending your own clubs ahead with shipsticks. Com makes it fast easy to get to your golf destination. With just a few clicks or a phone call, well pick up and deliver your clubs ontime, guaranteed, for as low as 39. 99. Shipsticks. Com saves you time and money. Make it simple. Make it ship sticks. Paul former Vice President and democratic president ial hopeful joe biden launching his first tv ad in the 2020 campaign this week targeting voters in iowa with a simple message, hes the one to beat President Trump. When know in our bones this election is different, the stakes are higher, the threat more serious, we have to beat donald trump and all the polls agree joe biden is the and what we have seen from the crowds this week and last, paul, in iowa hes had 100, 200 people, theres nowhere near the enthusiasm that say Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren have in the first two primary states. Paul well, do you think bide season the most electable, first of all, as democratic analyst . Id answer it this way, if we could nominate biden with Kamala Harris and dispense with the primary, yes. [laughter] thats not the real world and to go through brutal primaries with the kind of gaffes weve been hearing him make about forgetting when he met the parkland kids, forgetting the locations of the tragic mass murders, im not sure joe biden has what it takes to last the distance and so im not sure, ultimately hes more electable but the polls now certainly suggest that thats the case. Paul all right, now, so lets turn to Elizabeth Warren, shes been rising slowly but fairly steadily in the polls, whats behind her rise . We is a candidate who has a program for everything. She is speaking fervently against basic capitalist principles even though she calls herself a capitalist and given the energy shes building on the left, she is generating a great deal of enthusiasm with small donors, no big dollar money, shs reality built the most effective Grassroots Movement in iowa and we are seeing enthusiasm being reflected in both state and indeed national polls. Paul is her big weakness on the flip side of biden where her weakness is the fact that a lot of democrats wonder if she could actually beat donald trump because of leftwing agenda . Yeah, i think and i think its a fair concern in polls where over 40 say joe biden now is the most electable, the number for her is, i think, somewhere in mid to highsingle digits, so i think with her the fervent ideological message is helpful in the primaries but i have trouble seeing when it comes down to the election in the 5 or 6 key swing states whether swing voters will respond to her message absent a severe economic downturn. Paul here is the other issue that i see in political tactual terms, she and Bernie Sanders are now splitting the leftwing progressive vote, bernie has his fervent partisans even if hes not doing as well in the polls as as he did 4 years ago but the problem is eventually somebody has got to consolidate the voting block if they are going to beat biden and so when are warren and bernie going to go after one another . Well, thats a very good question, the polling now shows warren has the slight advantage over bernie in iowa and some of the polling in New Hampshire shows sanders ahead, not only of warren but of biden too, so theyre going to have to go at it whether its the first two primary states, i dont really know or think so, but ultimately youre right, they cannot evenly divide the 35 to 37 that is progressive and hope for either one to win the nomination. Paul are there any other any of the other candidates that youre looking at and saying, you know, this person has a potential for breakthrough, andrew yang perhaps, the businessman, anybody in particular . You know, there are a bunch of attractive people Kamala Harris had her moment, mayor pete has probably raised the most in the second quarter, andrew yang appeals to those interested in technology and guarantied annual income, so i think we have a number of attractive candidates, but if you ask the ultimate question, paul, do i think at this point anyone other than joe biden could beat donald trump, my answer would be no. Paul wow, interesting, all right, we will see how it plays out and have you many more times, doug. Still ahead much more on the 2020 president ial race including growing talks of a primary challenge to President Trump and pushback from some of joe bidens democratic rivals on the electability argument. In every election since before carter we have never had someone leading in the polls that went onto be the president at synchrony, were changing whats possible every single day. With technology that helps you offer shoppers a better experience. 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Plus get 250 back when you buy a new samsung note. Click, call or visit a store today. The next leader of our party cant be someone that is a safe bet, lets just find the person that can get this done so we can beat donald trump, im running in this election because i know we could do more than that. Paul that was new jersey senator and president ial hopeful cory booker this week taking swipe at rival joe biden insisting that the 2020 democratic nominee must be more than a safe bet, we are back with bill mcgurn, Allysia Finley, wall street Journal Editorial Board member kyle peterson, bill, you know what do you make of cory bookers critique there . Im not sure cory booker is safe bet down in 1 range where he is. If i were a biden supporter, its feeling im a notre dame fan, youre going in fourth quarter, 6point lead and you know you are going to lose. Paul why . Joe biden isnt improving the numbers, sometimes improving the lead because Bernie Sanders used to be a closer second and has dropped out and basically those numbers are split by Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders and to some degree Kamala Harris, i agree with doug sean, i wonder. Its amazing to me that joe biden is the moderate, for years probably you would see the liberal joe biden in the senate, thats how we described him, hes next to running against the guy that wants to jail Oil Executives and so forth that he looks moderate. Paul can we get a defense of joe biden, please . Sure, anything can happen obviously but i will note that we have been hearing the same story for months that joe biden cant last, that when his stumbling performance in the first debate will take him down and yet there he is, chugging on, steady joe, third of the vote, do i think that the electability argument can be overplayed and i think but i think it resinates with people if they make it concrete and positive way so his wife jill biden was essentially saying this week, democrats you may like him candidate but you have to swallow doubt and vote for joe because he can win, that doesnt good in bumper sticker. Paul on the other hand, as bidens ad said, this may be for democrats an unusual election, in a sense that they so hate donald trump, they so thing think hes over the top and beyond the pail and hes maybe the like thattability argument this time has more salience. Top priority is beating donald trump but the question is the other candidates have run so far to the left and i think many even democrats moderate democrats and progressive democrats realized once Elizabeth Warrens plan starts to be discussed in greater detail, Bernie Sanders 16. 3 trillion plan for Green New Deal gets attacked, they can be more vulnerable than joe biden as he tries to position himself as more of a centrist. Paul Elizabeth Warren, i know that youre a big fan of her program, bill. [laughter] paul but i think you have to respect and be impressed by her her own progress in this race. Yeah, i probably dont agree with Elizabeth Warren in anything but im impressed on her campaign, she has put a good team in iowa, if you look at real clear politics average in the polls, the granted the polls are early, shes the only one of all the candidates that has been on a slow upswing for the most part of the campaign. I think she worked hard, i think she does excite a lot of the base, i mean, people they want to beat donald trump but they also want someone to be excited about to go into that and i think she has some of that with a lot can happen with some of the lesser known candidates, whether they have a good debate night or so forth. Bidens problem is people know him, wow, cory booker looked good, or castro looked good, are people going to say that about joe biden . Competing theories in the race, do you counter rightwing populism and leftwing populism, thats what warren and bernie, castro increasingly is doing or do you do what biden is trying to do, look, trump is aberration and we will return to status quo, normalcy which is the better argument, thats a fundamental difference in strategy in this case. Yeah, one of the things that makes it more difficult call is there are many people trying to do the first and only joe biden and trying to do the second, the issue here is Elizabeth Warren is rising in the polls but Bernie Sanders has a very hard core support, a lot of people who love his policies who love that he stands up and calls himself a socialist, i dont think hes going pack in any time soon and if he doesnt Elizabeth Warren never gets the head to head that she really needs. Paul allysia, will donald trump have challenge, former governor of massachusetts saying it is already in, are those serious . I dont think theyre be formable. Mitt romney would have had the better chance, i dont think he wants to divide the republican electorate and be blamed for if donald trump would end up losing election. Well, you know, i think theyll probably expose and maybe again bring out some of the divisiveness within the party especially on Donald Trumps temperament and they try to play that and remind suburban women voters just everything that he has said that has offended over the years. Paul theres a lot. Still ahead President Trump calls on other countries to take up the fight against isis after pentagon report warn that is the terror group is making a comeback in iraq and syria. Theyve been decimated by the way, badly decimated but all of the countries are going to have i saved hundreds when i switched my Car Insurance to geico. This is how it made me feel. It was like that feeling when you pull your green sock out of the dryer and then the very next sock is the other green one. And then you pull out two blue ones. And you keep going till youve matched every single sock in perfect order. And the owner of the laundromat is so impressed, he hangs a picture of you next to the dryer. Geico. 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All before lunch, which we caught last saturday. We earn our scars. We wear our work ethic. We work until the works done. And when it is, a few hours of shuteye to rest up for tomorrow, the day well finally get something done. you know, at a certain point russia, afghanistan, iran, iraq, turkey, theyre going to have to fight their battles too, okay . We wiped out the caliphate 100 . I did it in record time. But all of these countries are going to have to fight them, because do we want to stay there for another 19 years . I dont think so. Paul that was President Trump wednesday calling on other countries to take up the fight against isis after a report earlier this month behind the pentagons Inspector General raised concerns about the terror groups resurgence in iraq and syria. The president s remarks come a day after his secretary of state acknowledged that the Islamic State is regaining strength in certain areas. There are certainly places where isis is more powerful today than they were three or four years ago, but the caliphate is gone, and their capacity to conduct external attacks has been made much more difficult. Paul seth jones is director of the transnational threats project at the center for strategic and international studies. Seth, good to see you again, thanks for coming in. Its great to be on. Paul seth, so what do you make of this pentagon Inspector General report, and it you wrote for us many months ago, in fact, predicting this. How much strength is isis regaining . Well, paul, im just coming back from the syrian jordanian border, and after talking to syrian and u. S. Officials in the region within the last few weeks that theyre expressing very serious concern that isis has regenerated both east and west of the Euphrates River valley, and alqaeda remains in pretty serious numbers in syria at the moment. So these groups are not dead. They dont control much territory at this point, but they still have reasonable numbers of fighters, 1418,000 according to the most recent pentagon Inspector General report. The u. N. Numbers are a little higher at 30,000 isis fighters, but those still are pretty significant. Paul what do you make of secretary pompeos argument that because the caliphate is gone that is the territory that they control that, therefore, their ability to project terror is much diminished . Is that accurate . Well, i think the problem is terrorism is not linear. I mean, at this point we see limited efforts by the Islamic State to confront conduct attacks, external operations paul right. In europe and the u. S. But, actually, there has been some concern in an area of syria that alqaedas affiliate does have some external operations capabilities. And regardless, we see these groups over time rebuild their external operations capabilities, so id be more concerned about a year from now or two years from now than this week. Paul so we havent had a strike or an attack in the homeland for quite some time. Youre saying that that doesnt mean the threat has diminished. I think there still a threat. We have seen attacks in europe, and i think if you talk to the head of counterterrorism at the fbi, they have arrested a number of people this year for plotting attacks inspired by isis in the United States. So i think there still is a threat. Probably somewhat diminished from a few years ago but, certainly are, could rise at some point. Paul all right. So so what do we do about it, i guess, is the next question. The president wants to pull all the troops occupant of syria. Hes kept some there. He wants to get out of afghanistan. Are we going to have to just stay there in some force with special forces and intelligence gathering and the ability to strike with air power for many, many years . Well, i think the president s certainly right to ask for assistance from countries in the region, the afghans, iraqis, the turks and others. But i think of this counterterrorism like trying to eliminate ants from your house. Theyre never going to go away, but youve got to keep on them year after year. And in this sense i think from a u. S. Standpoint, this is really small numbers of special Operations Forces paul right. And intelligence folks to keep an eye, and when they need to be hit, they can be hit by us. If they can be hit by allies, thats great too. But if the threat really is to us, we need to make sure weve got the capability to do that. Paul can we do that from, say, outside of afghanistan, or do we have to have the actual troops inside afghanistan with the sort of closer to the Threat Intelligence capability . Or can we do it offshore . I mean, my own experience in doing this when i was in u. S. Special operations, its a lot easier to do it when you have assets in place in that country. Is so if we were to keep a small number of forces, for example, at bagram air base, able to fly intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance aircraft, that would be much easier. And then to strike those targets with limited assets in the country and try to bring them in and get permission to bring them in from the outside. Paul theres been a big debate over what to do with the imprisoned isis fighters who have been caught, captured by our kurdish allies. The kurds dont want to keep them in syria. They want them to go home, but the europeans havent been willing to take them and try them and contain them there. Is that are those likely to be released in syria if the europeans dont take them . I think they certainly are. There are 70,000 or so internally displaced persons at the camp in syria. Numbers of isis fighters there probably around 10,000 or so. I have talked to senior european leaders who dont even want them in their prisons even if they have enough information to convict them. I think unless the u. S. Can get other third Party Countries to take them in, i do fear that some of them are going to be released either in syria or potentially in iraq. Paul okay. Well, i want to ask specifically about iraq. Because thats where the caliphate, you know, created so much mayhem in mosul and so on. Have they been contained there, or are they in danger of rebuilding there too . Well, i think in sunniarab areas of iraq right now there are some concerns about potential reconstitution of isis. For at least two reasons. One is the Iraqi Government used a large number of shia militia paul right. To overrun areas like mosul, and that clearly has created a lot of unhappiness within the sunni community. The second is the pace of reconstruction in cities like fallujah and ramadi have been pretty slow and dispiriting for many sunnis in those communities. And when you have grievances, either sectarian or governancerelated, it does create opportunities whether its isis directly or some sort of future organization, opportunities for resurgence. Paul all right. Seth jones, thanks so much for being here, very informative. Still ahead, the ceos of americas Biggest Companies distancing themselves from shareholders in favor of stakeholders. So whats behind the change, and why is it coming now . Why is it coming now . All Money Managers might seem the same, but some give their clients cookie cutter portfolios. Fisher investments tailors portfolios to your goals and needs. Some only call when they have something to sell. Fisher calls regularly so you stay informed. And while some advisors are happy to earn commissions whether you do well or not. Fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. Maybe thats why most of our clients come from other Money Managers. Fisher investments. Clearly better money management. Paul some of americas top ceos distancing themselves from owners. The business round table whose members include nearly 200 chief executives said this week that it is redefining its mission, issuing a statement on the purpose of a corporation that no longer puts the interests of shareholders front and center, but instead stresses, quote, a fundamental commitment to all of our stakeholders. That list includes customers, employees, suppliers and communities. Were back with bill mcgurn, Allysia Finley and James Freeman. James, what do you make of this move . Its not good news for shareholders, not good news for workers, not good news for our economy. Obviously, any business that wants to thrive and bring profits for its owners long term has to take care of employees and have a motivated work force. You have got to obey the law are, youve got to take care of customers, make a great product. But its that commitments part where youre communities part where youre now saying communities vaguely defined, and theyre within this group of ceos they define that word differently. By the way, this didnt go to the lawyers of any of these companies. Paul i know. They wanted to keep the lawyers out. So they are not clear on what exactly has been promised here. But the big concern is for a lot of these companies, communities include nonprofit environmental groups that speak for no one. They havent been elected by anyone, they dont represent workers, they dont represent investors. And i think thats the dangers when you start Running Companies to please someone who has no stake in the business. Paul allysia, pretty harsh, tough by freeman. Do you agree with him in. Yes, actually. [laughter] i do think the language is very boilerplate, but i think the liberals will be emboldened by it. Paul thats interesting. The liberals are criticizing it by saying, you know, theres Nothing Specific here. You dont have any policy well, thats exactly it. Theyre going to push them to go even or try to attack the businesses and say, well, youre not doing enough to help these corporate constituencies. I think another one of ironies is, you know, jamie dimon has been posting to ease the quoteunquote reinvestment act which is the definition of forcing banks to serve stakeholders. Paul now, to defend jamie dimon if, he did call me after the editorials and said, well, they were a little harsh. But he said, you know, i take your point about shareholders. We all have to continue to serve shareholders. But look, he said, this isnt about selling out free markets. This is not us committing to the battle over the future of american, the American Economy and American Free enterprise and just telling not letting people distort who we help, pointing out that we do help employees and shareholders well, then its meaningless are, right in the fearful part of this is the Community Part because companies that do a good job, sustain business have to please their customers first of all and then have to please the employees to keep their talent. So the question is, as i think james put it, whos going to decide the Community Good . Is it going to be the sierra club, you know . I dont see the Community Good being determined by saying lets give money to a vouchers program, i dont see these ceos tying their compensation to community members, Community Ratings of the groups that they want. Also the fundamental problem with it, i think, is on the morality after of markets. Instead of serving the shareholders like a retiree whos counting on a good return. This implies what business does as business is not moral itself, like serving customers with a need, keeping your employees employed and so forth and providing a good product. That you have to sort of buy forgiveness and indulgence, you know, from the community or other stakeholders. And who, the big question is who picks the stakeholders who get to have a say how other peoples money is spent . Paul and just take General Electric for an example. A lot of retirees relied on its dividend for a big chunk of their retirement for decades. Then suddenly, when it went down, is it more moral because they failed, because they were worried about the community and the environmental interests . Right. And even for people that were in the business, i mean, if you think even the employee part, are you saying you keep paying people who dont produce and, ultimately, take that away from hair holders . Thats not shareholders . Thats not the way to a prosperous economy. Free enterprise has pulled millions of people around the world out of poverty. They need to affirm that, but i think the political issue here is theyre on defense because of this constant gripe that inequality is a huge problem, and its worse than its ever been. And so much of it is based on bogus stats. There was a famous book called capital a few years ago, largely debunked, but the myth persists. Paul thank you all. When we come back, the great student loan scam. A new report or shows the shocking cost to u. S. Taxpayer, why one 2020 president ial hopeful may have some explaining to do. Cancel Student Loan Debt for 95 of [cheers and applause] imagine traveling hasslefree with your golf clubs. Now you can, with shipsticks. Com no more lugging your clubs through the airport or risk having your clubs lost or damaged by the airlines. Sending your own clubs ahead with shipsticks. Com makes it fast easy to get to your golf destination. 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The report shows that not only are more americans defaulting on these governmentbacked loans, but that the Congressional Budget Office vastly underestimated the cost to taxpayers. Nevertheless, democrats like 2020 president ial candidate Elizabeth Warren have spent years demanding more and more subsidies and claiming that the u. S. Government would save a fortune. Heres the massachusetts senator in 2013. Lets all be clear about what the current student loan Interest Rates produce for the United States government. The cbo, the agency in charge of estimating these costs for the government, maintains that this year the United States government will make 51 billion in profits from the Student Loans. Paul were back with James Freeman, Allysia Finley and kyle peterson. Allysia, the senator saying Student Loans would be a Profit Center for the federal government. What went wrong . Well, they were basing this on some kind of Interest Rate arbitrage. The government would borrow at a lower rate than it would lend to students. What went wrong is, basically, the Obama Administration decided to implement these incomebased repayment plans, about 10 of their income, and forgive them forgive the remaining balance as somewhere between 10 and 20 years, 10 if you worked in the public sector. The result is that many students arent actually paying down their loans, theyre just making very modest Interest Rate payments, so their balances are continuing to grow. Paul so in ten years, im outta here, man, dumping it on the taxpayers. Thats exactly whats going to happen. Elizabeth warren is saying were going to cancel your Student Loans, thats going to happen anyway on the current rate. Paul on the current rate. So why isnt this a huge issue politically . I mean, basically we have, what, 1. 4 trillion 1. 5 trillion paul it could be that 1. 5 trillion, all of it, is written off by the put on the backs of taxpayers. Right. Well, i would say two answers to that. One is that thats a rounding errors when youre talking about these candidates plans. Elizabeth warn wants to write off about 640 billion, Bernie Sanders wants a 16 trillion Green New Deal. These plans seem very unlikely e to pass paul no, but even if those plans dont pass, as allysia points out, they are current law, the policy, the forgiveness plans, and those already have a builtin writedown of that kind of a magnitude eventually anyway. Sure. Well, i mean, students are sympathetic, and a lot of them in their defense were told to go to college and told it didnt matter, you could get whatever degree you want, and they are not having great employment prospects. They took out the loans, but with, i mean, thats part of the reason its not paul am i wrong about the magnitudes here, are they potentially that large . Right now the cbos projecting in the tenyear window using fair market accounting its going to be over 300 billion. Thats just the tenyear window. A lot of the losses are going to be far worse after that. Paul james, anybody who has repaid off their loan must feel like a sap. Yeah, its infuriating. Its a lot of money, and i dont think we should give senator warren a pass at all, especially since shes now saying lets forgive almost all this debt anyway. At the time she was claiming this was going to be profitable, she cited those cbo stats. The cbo was also putting out warnings saying, by the way, this is bogus because the accounting doesnt take into account the full cost of defaults. They put out these ridiculous warnings where they say heres our official estimate. Weve got this beltway fraudulent accounting, so were going to call it a profit, but we want to let you know if this was actually real accounting, it would show a big loss. She had to know that. So she was going on the senate floor talking about some big taxpayer profit, she had to know it was a fraud. Were now seeing that realized, and whos made money . Its the professors and add meres at administrators at all these colleges catching all of this money. Coincidentally, thats warren and her husband. Paul so she should have known it because you were writing it at the time even if she didnt read our paper, all she had to do was read the cbo letters saying, look, this is not real accounting. Were not taking in the cost of defaults. Paul so, allysia, any lessons here for those poor idiot taxpayers out there who are going to pay the bill . [laughter] the parable what happens with the democrats when they, quote, expand the entitlement state paul or republicans. Thats true. They always say its going to cost us a few billion dollars or itll save money. Thats usually what they say. And itll eventually be a much bigger deal. Paul when we come back, hits and misses of the week. Limu emu doug hour 36 in the stakeout. As soon as the homeowners arrive, well inform them that Liberty Mutual customizes home insurance, so theyll only pay for what they need. Your turn to keep watch, limu. Wake me up if you see anything. [ snoring ] [ loud squawking and siren blaring ] only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Paul time now for our hits and misses of the week. James . Paul, im not a new york mets fan, but i have to give them credit. Fifty years after their miracle season, they are pulling off kind of a modern miracle which is not tanking. When teams are having a rough first half, they trade away all their good players and then say come back next year. The mets decided after a rough first half to try to get better, now theyre winning. Dont know if theyll make the playoffs, but its exciting baseball. Paul kyle . Ill give a hit to greenland. President trump talked about buying it [laughter] denmark, which controls the arctic island, said no thanks, theres some tension there. Meanwhile, everybodys talking about how awesome greenland is, massive crust san exports crust today san exports. Paul and hes already got two tickets booked. Bill. A miss to Chicago Teachers Union that went to venezuela for inspiration. There they found a socialist paradise far superior to rahm emanuel. [laughter] the union says we didnt pay for the trip, but these people used the union name and so forth, and they were clearly acting on praising venezuela back in march. The Chicago Public schools are not quite yet at the desperate level of venezuela, but if this unijanuary has their way union has their way, theyre going to take them there. Paul if you have your own hit or miss, tweet us at jer on fnc. Thanks to my panel, thanks to all of you for watching. Im paul gigot. We hope to see you right here next week. Lou good evening, everybody. 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