Washington examist anderson and benchmark managing partner, look at him, kevin kelly, looking good because you have the light. I love it. Dagen whats it called by diva light. I go by divos. No divas or divos just common sense. Fox news contributor adviser and founder former economic adviser robert wolf, shape of the race for the democratic nomination for the presidency, we will talk to him at length, fox news senior judicial analyst judge andrew napolitano, Services Committee member sean and the now ceo herman cain and dr. Mikhail varshavski, dr. Mike, you dont want to miss any of the gentlemen, to the future this morning, 159 point loss after stocks soared yesterday after President Trump delayed tariff on certain chinese goods until december 15th delays include goods like smart phones, laptops, video games, the president commenting on the move some of the tariffs will have impact. [inaudible] the only impact that weve corrected almost [inaudible] dagen china feeling the impacts of the trade dispute posting weak economic numbers with its jobless rate reaching the highest on record, you also have other indicators, factory production, Property Investment much lower than expected. Try to answer my question earlier, so theres a trade delay on the tariffs on some goods, theres another meeting scheduled for is it next month in washington on the trade negotiations but is the World Economy slowing so much that our move with china dont matter at this point . Theyre very much is that danger right now and the reason the market is off today because of bad Economic News from china, the troubling news from germany, weve had negative Interest Rates in effect for quite a while in europe and yet the German Economy is contracting, thats scary. Dagen what do you make of this move, yesterday, i was talking to rachel, our producer this morning, oh, okay, delay in tariffs is now the is the new Interest Rate cut by the Federal Reserve, what do you make to have market now and maybe in the next 6 months to a year. Kevin we are heading to volatile stock, september and october tend to be choppy, the market is trying to get footing, outsize moves even in august as precursor, its important to know that germany has been slowing for 4 months, thats a troubling trend and especially with china coming out with the slowest growth in Industrial Production in 17 years, we have the Worlds Largest economies are slowing, even look at our gdp compared to last year, so i think the market right now has shown you where you need to be and thats in treasures, Asset Classes over the past 6 weeks, 8 weeks during the troubling time. Dagen can we take a look at 30year yield, i think, and i want to ask you this, kevin, you would still buy the 30year yield, i think that might be record of 30year yield. Would you still buy treasuries . Definitely, i think we will have the 30year yield go under 2 fairly soon and set new low for 10year treasury, thats heading to range to 1 and a quarter percent given the recent troubling news. You know whats interesting about the 30year yield, thats a 30year bond, the fed funds rate is overnight rate, fed fund is 3. 2 , thats telling me you have a lot of rate cuts in the pipeline. Dagen so essentially the federal government, they have to pay more you have to pay more to borrow on the very short, you have to pay to borrow for 30 years. And treasury bond market is making it loud and clear to Federal Reserve policymakers that its high time to begin cutting rates with aggressiveness. Kevin i had meeting with Institutional Investor yesterday and thats always been looks at the market, nobrainer trade, getting into the shorterend of the curve actually, hes not being compensated for that and thats the biggest problem, right, if we look at our 30year, you look at germanys 30year, the clear choice to be in the u. S. Treasury market. I will add something, as Federal Reserve cuts Interest Rates it becomes more attractive for Foreign Investors to put their money in u. S. Treasuries because as the fed cuts rate, cost of removing, Exchange Rate risk into particular move to dollar treasuries is lower. Dagen i saw this yesterday, broke while the protests were breaking out in hong kong, americans views of china are changing, new survey found that 60 have unfavorable opinion on china compare that to 47 last year. Dramatic increase there and its just its a number of Different Things and the unfavorable view has gone up, what do you make of this and politically as well . Well, i think its driven by a mix of Economic Security and cultural forces, hey, weve been getting a bad deal for them and began to resinate for folks that may not think about trade issues that often. Security issues and people begin to go think more about asia and the security in the region being in news more often, understanding increasingly among voters that china has to play a role and want to resolve the situation and finally things that we are seeing in hong kong, what we are seeing with the leaders in china, story about the Chinese Government not treating their people very well because does not sit with people as well. Dagen can i ask you a question about china and americans overwhelmingly agree in Pew Research Poll that chinas military expansion is a negative development for the u. S. , but where do voters sit and the American People sit, would they side with President Trump even in the economy weakness and i only point that the twoyear on the yield inverted and that historically, i think every recession since world war ii at least proceeded by inversion, again, that means 2year rates are higher, the yield is higher than tenyear, its been that way for 2 months, spring for the most part, before we move onto discussion of inversion, where do americans sit in terms of the tug of war between doing the right thing with china but also an economy that looks certainly slowing here in the u. S. Well, i think limits to the amount of shortterm paying pain people are willing to take on and longterm gain the president promises might be there. Typically if you ask the job that the president is doing, he does about 10 points better on the question of how do you think is handling of the economy versus handling to have job overall, so its starting to wonder what were the hypothetical situation look like where lets say the economy was doing worse, not doing as well where people do not give the president as much credit for the economy, overall job approval would be in the low 30s, similarly if you scale back on some of the things like the tweets, the things that swing voters dont love as much with an economy like this at the moment could job approval be higher, its interesting hypothetical. Dagen what do you make to have inversion . Yeah, i think its actually signaling worldwide problems and growth overseas, i mean, if you look at the u. S. Economy, Consumer Confidence is still elevated because look at the jobs market. Dagen focus on the positive. Right, 70 of Services Economy and people feel good, i think, one of the reasons the tariffs were delayed because latest round of tariffs actually hit the consumer side of the ledger. The first round of tariffs were more on enterprise, this would have hit the Christmas Shopping season, the Holiday Shopping season, goods would have been impacted. That would have hit Consumer Confidence because all prices gone up. Thats why you saw the delay. Dagen President Trump said essentially the washington editorial page call it trade wars arent free to consumers despite the messaging thats coming out. He loves them. Dagen right, i always point to that, trade wars are easy to win which is proving what i said earlier, we are not helpless in the treasury yield curve inversion, shortterm Interest Rates are too high, and the Federal Reserve can simply go ahead cut rates and get rid of that yield curve inversion quickly. How did did that in 1998 it worked. There was no recession. They took their tie, they tolerated, the longer they tolerate the inverted treasury yield curve, the risk of recession, we have an economic downturn. I will point out that was during Longterm Management collapse, also during the impeachment proceedings against bill clinton between between july and september, the s p fell over 19 and recovered and then some by the end of the year. Rate cuts were in the context of real gdp growth in excess of 4 . Dagen do you think the fed cuts 50 basis points in september . I think they might very well cut 50 basis points if we get troubling news, disappointed on jobs for september or august, that gives them strong reason to cut half percentage point. Dagen does it rescue the economy . Reduces recession risk, would it continue with economic recovery, thats problematic. You cant escape recessions, its only a matter of time. Dagen do you think we go to recession . Within the 18 months. 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Dagen breaking news right now, the yield on the 2year treasury and 10year treasury yield, that part of the yield curve inverted for the First Time Since 2007, so what does that mean, it means that the twoyear yield is higher than the 10year yield, that turns the world of banking upside down and also historically since world war ii, its been a pretty good indicater of recession, this happening this part of the yield curve inverting for the First Time Since 2007, that was right before the financial collapse. Thats taking the Broader Market down with it, joining us Global Investment chief market strategist, victoria fernandez, victoria, what do you make of this . We knew it was probably coming, but im not sure its a recession signal at this point in time, i know historically it has been but we are, what, a basis point inverted at this point in time, lets see if we get more relief coming, cpi numbers higher than expected, if you look at the trending cpi, 2. 8 annualized on the number, maybe that push it is longerend up a little bit going forward, i wouldnt make a recession call but definitely something the press will be watching. We talk about the Federal Reserve needs to act, needs to take funds rate 2, 2 ant and a quarter, 1. 6 , with the consumer crisis going up yesterday for the second straight month, thats the strongest 2month gain in more than a decade, so is the fed in a bind or not . I dont think people are worried about Price Inflation at this point in time, Inflation Expectations very well contained, if you look at treasury bond market, expected rate of inflation over the next year is running at about 1. 5, 1. 6 , this recent gain, i think its going to be a brief jump by the cpi is not going to prevent the fed from responding to increase risk of recession, thats on the front burner inflation way off in burner in some place. You know whats interesting in inflation side, healthcare inflation actually went up and thats a broad concern because we actually have an aging pop ulation we see housing go up in rate of inflation, i keep my eyes wide open with whats going on, not only the inverted yield curve but also copper has been exceptionally, coil has been exceptionally weak, would all the things in aggregate, i say, okay, i need to get more defensive, data centers, cell phone towers, Distribution Centers, thats how ive positioned portfolio, victoria, i dont know where you think investors should be, given the concerns, thats where i want to be. Dagen we will get macys earnings, walmart sales tomorrow, with that is the backdrop to kevins question, how are you allocating . Sure, consumer has been the key the whole year and we have been talking about that and obviously Department Stores are in trouble, talking to clients, they are saying lets find opportunities in the market, whether its a global dividend, whether using options to take advantage of volatility in the market, we are longerterm investors, dont trade on the headlines, longerterm outlook, put some more value, core positions in equity portfolio, i wouldnt go full on defensive because as we know it only takes one tweet, it takes one event to have market shift. Dagen this is something ive said before and i only acknowledge that i do repeat myself but the data the markets were already weak before, the inversion of the 2 and the 10year treasury, chinas jobless rate hit highest level ever reported, consumption, Property Investment much lower than expected. Germanys economy contracting, we are fighting the trade war, however b careful of us winning it because you have the entire world thats slowing down if not contracting and it will take the United States with it, yes or no . No, absolutely, thats why we are seeing rates move as low as they are, its importing that from the rest of the world, uk in contraction, germany, but as a whole we are importing that slowdown, thats what the fed is saying biggest reason for lower rates, im not sure at this point that lowering it another 50 basis points will help that Business Investment and cap x, rates were low and they havent been investing at this point, im not sure 25 basis points shift cap x. Dagen really quickly, kristin, Jon Hilsenrath had been talking about going through Conference Calls and comments from ceos being asked about how row repairing for a recession, what are they saying of potential recession, yesterday gm and ford at a conference were talking about planning for a possible economic downturn, maybe ceos are getting asked about it, but the more that people, regular folks hear the word recession, does that change their attitude about the economy . At the moment, voter groups, they feel personally, economically okay, they are not word about losing jobs tomorrow, something that they were worried about 10 years, it feels uncertain, fragile, a sense out there priced into a lot of the polling numbers that people i dont know that theyre going to stay good with one tweet, with one event around the world, all of that could change. Dagen market selloff, jon, you we wanted to say something. Lets not forget when we get lower Interest Rates, shorterterm Interest Rates almost guaranty longerterm Interest Rates and with that more refinancing activity, the month of august has been a typically strong in terms of Corporate Bond issuance, a lot of that to refinance outstanding debt, by the way, recently, applications for mortgage refinancings are running higher, 85 year over year, thats putting extra cash in savings accounts of household. Dagen i have pushback from stephanie from housing issue but you will have to wait for that, she was tweeting about it last night. Victoria fernandez, thank you for being here. My pleasure. Dagen hong kong may have more protests ahead, how the u. S. Is responding . Boeing sales lag, Worlds Largest air space manufacturer risk falling behind competition months after the max 737 max jets were grounded, the fallout ahead. For starters, we provide you with Financing Options for your customers. 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Because basically banks for the most part, its impossible for them to make money, lending money, again, you borrow on the short end and lend on the longer end, this disrupts Banking System and signals the fact that people are diving into 10year treasuries, symbol of economic weakness on the horizon, futures lower this morning and this moves into treasuries and the inversion in the yield curve pushing stocks down even further, 225point loss on dow futures after broad rally sparked by President Trump delaying china tariffs but, again, delay just does not get rid of uncertainty, we should point that out, apple adding 50 points to the dow because smartphone tariffs delays, new 10 delays until middecember. Checking on the Global Market action in europe you have losses across the board, selling picking up steam, germanys economy contracting in most recent quarter and dax in germany falling 1 and a third percent. The economists and the government blaming tensions between the u. S. And china as well as possibility of no brexit deal, speaking of china and asia overnight, markets were broadly higher following on the rally here in the United States, some weakness in chinas economy that we have been talking about as well and on to the turmoil in hong kong, on hold for now, protesters are still at the airport after flights were disrupted for 2 days in a row, we have the latest there. And more trouble for boeing, plane delivery falling and another airline to cut more flights as 737 max jet remains grounded. Music super star looking to tackle social issues after anthem protest and congresswoman alexandria ocasiocortez challenged on debate over unions, more on the spat with dave. Warning for streaming fans, bingewatching may be bad for your health, we will tell you why, when your bingewatching two seasons of the crown, just asking for a friend. Hong kong unrest, china denying request for two u. S. Navy ships to visit hong kong, protesters stretch through intense weekend and shut down hong kong on monday and tuesday, President Trump tweeting on this yesterday. , our intelligence has informed us that the Chinese Government is moving troops to the border with hong kong, everyone should be calm and safe. Joining me now retired u. S. Army, author of the book double cross fire. General, good to see you as always, what do you make of the situation in hong kong again and very precarious . Dagen, we have to remember that hong kong was under british rule over 150 years and in 1997 it was transitioned to the one country two systems rule under china and its a limited democracy and so with that background really what we are looking at is a free market democracy that is coming into clash with the communist in china and chief executive represented their governor, so to speak, introduced a bill that would extradite criminals to china and the people on the ground, the citizens of hong kong are concerned that this is a slippery slope and rightfully so that split call prisoners can be extradite today china and it would be the first domino, authoritarian rule coming to hong kong, thats what the led the people of hong kong, used to liberty, used to freedom, use today free markets that are concerned and you see the passion with which youre protesting and Holding American flags and uk flags in the streets and so we are a symbol of democracy and china sitting on the hill that president reagan talked about and china permitting u. S. Warships to coming into port, the u. S. Navy which has never been an issue before and i understand chinas concern about United States and ports, further appear hong kong appeared ally with the United States, so its a tense situation right now and chairman, the chief executive lam, she can stop this be withdrawing the legislation and becoming a leader of her people as opposed to a proxy for china. Dagen but china that would be symbol of weakness potentially to mainland china, to beijing, china, beijing clearly wants control of the Banking System in hong kong and the wall street journal called yesterdays protest a propaganda victory or beijing as it tries to turn the public against what would be overwhelming peaceful protests, to that point, do you think President Trump needs to speak out against this chinese crackdown forcefully . I think the president is walking the fine line that he has to walk in the middle of trade negotiations that impact the entire country and even the world and the protests right now that could be easily resolved and so what i would expect the president to do is support people in hong kong and also not burn the bridge with china, its a very delicate negotiation happening here and he should not be throw out the baby with bath water, should not be burned out to try to, you know, have a campaign on twitter with hong kong, people will forget about this in a week if its resolved peacefully . Dagen general, good to see you, thank you very much for being here this morning. More fallout from the grounding of boeing 737 max jet, Cheryl Casone be details there, cheryl . Cheryl air Space Company has basically down, global air bus on track to pass boeing as the Worlds Largest plane maker and grounding of 737 max at norwegian air, that start on september 15th. Nfl is teaming up with jaiz z, rapper helping the leagues smooth tensions with players over social justice issues, also help nfl entertainment and includes halftime show, rock nation to play a major role in that, jay z, and then bar stool challenging congresswoman alexandria ocasiocortez. Basically caused a series of tweet that is cause ad lot of interesting antiunion message on twitter, unionize, snapped back that he would fire anyone on the spot who contacts, the congresswoman chimed in said they could face legal action, trying to unionize, you are likely breaking the law and can be sued in your words on the spot, he likes to debate alexandria ocasiocortez, not accepted. Thank you, cheryl. [laughter] what do you make of this . The discourse on twitter . Yeah, she refuses to partake in any debates because i think shes smart, she doesnt want to be she doesnt want to fly too close and get burned, i dont think we should hold our breath to see the congresswoman engage in any thoughtful debate any time soon, she feels comfortable on twitter with her thumbs typing away and dave is trying to get her to engage in that debate and i dont think itll happen. Theres a strong incentive to be engaged to punch up people engage, its rooted in the economics of online publishing these days, so just earlier this week the ringer that i love reading dagen rewatchables. Very much. Go ahead. All the other sports and online publishing platforms, are they now facing pressure for their writers to unionize. Unions do not work, highly competitive evolving industries, its a big mistake and could end up costing jobs. Dagen i was in a union, a union related to a reporting job that i had and my issue always was last hire, first fired, so there was no incentive, you work hard and you try to move up and if there are layoffs doesnt matter how hard youve worked, your performance that was my personal issue. I lasted maybe a year on that job because i hated it. Coming up raising the smoking age, one city wants to do just that to curve teen vaping, that story ahead, plus streaming setback, why bingewatching tv shows could be hazardous to your health, dr. Mike here coming up. Wait, let me guess. Flea flicker. Yes howd you know . Studying my playbook . Yeah, actually. Mothat a handle is just a is jushandle. Ir. Or that you cant be both inside and outside. Most people havent driven a lincoln. Discover the lincoln approach to craftsmanship at the lincoln summer invitation. Right now, get 0 apr on all 2019 lincoln vehicles plus no payments for up to 90 days. Only at your lincoln dealer. 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Mikhail varshavski aka dr. Mike, please explain, bearer of bad news. I hate to talk about because i occasionally do bingewatch, we all have our shows, its not healthy for mind and the body, number one socially isolating activity, you are doing it without interacting with other people which is going to hurt you, number 2, at the expense of your sleep, staying up late at night watching the shows, obviously that hurts your mind and finally, when youre not moving increasing your Blood Pressure, youre adding those pounds, youre actually hurting the mind, so the solution to this is limit bingewatching, if youre going to be doing this, try limit the amount of episodes, netflix does a good job, are you still watching after a few episodes, thats medical advice right there, get off up the couch, move on some. The lawyers have something to do with that, netflix . The lawyers said we should probably put the disclaimer in there. Dagen is bingewatching that big of a problem . Huge problem, shows have become so addicting. They are trying to figure out how to keep you watching with the shows, made in such a way where theres little tieoff at the end that makes you want to watch the next episode, if youre not watching, youre not getting the hit. Based on what type of show it is, am i doing more damage to myself bingewatching a show little lies, than british baking show. [laughter] dagen so relaxing. The british bakeoff is most relaxing soothing Television Program in the history of television. I have to check that out apparently. Dagen the worst thing that happens that somebody no risk, maybe even hear people i think you guys are spinning it. [laughter] look, if we will be sitting for 4, 5 hours at a time, thats unhealthy, the new slogan sitting, smoking, thats some truth to it. I dont want to be right. [laughter] people stair at their device for hour after hour, thats got to be bad too . Equally as bad too especially the devices are hacking your mind even in a worse way, notifications, the likes, they condition you to want more of that and when you experience social interaction in real life outside of the phone you almost lose the sense of how to be normal in the social settings. Dagen i actually thought about this over the weekend just because of the outrage and the uproar that is you see over and over again on social media and the need for attention and people doing outrageous things saying outrageous things for that attention, was it just switched on by social media, do we all have that built into us or did social media create that narcism . I think the best answer to that socialism is a drug, when people use cocaine, they want more of it. Social media gives you the same dopamine hit that cocaine gives you and we want more of it and the problem is when we use too much screen time we forget that the outside world exists and lose the social interaction thats keeping us healthy. The validation part, the dopamine part . The validations, notifications dagen attention. You become addicted to the attention. Negative whats sad is we are learning our brains are actually hackable by other people and the companies doing best, google, youtube, facebook, all these companies are doing a good job at it. Dagen you will do a story of fitness trackers, do they improve your health . We have about a minute. Whats interesting in Health Trackers doctors got excited about them, patients will be in charge with fitness trackers but the outcomes arent there, they used the fitness tracker, may take a few more steps but in reality Blood Pressure doesnt change, cholesterol, maybe a few more steps here and there, we are trying to figure out how to use fitness trackers with certain apps, monitoring family physician in order to get health outcomes, so far disappointing. Dagen if you want to lower Blood Pressure, watch the Great British bakeoff, bingewatching, i dont care what people say. Thank you so much, mikhail varshavski, please come back very soon, breaking news this morning, a recession signal flashing, the yield on the 10year treasury falling below the 2year treasury yield for the First Time Since 2007, stocks melting down, this meltdown caught on camera, youtube apologizing for deleting the video of chris cuomo, more when we come back. Decision time. You need decision tech. 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Right now, we dont really have that but this happened early in the morning and it has every recession since world war ii, it has been preceded by this inversion, this yield curve inversion. The 30 year yield falling to a record low as investors run for safety and that is pulling down stock few churls, running out futures, running out of equities at the moment, 238 point loss on the dow future, this move in the treasury Market Driving futures even lower. This a after yesterdays broadbased rally sparked by donalbyPresident Trump delayings on some chinese imported goods. Its a perfect storm this morning. You have the inversion of the two and 10 year yield curve, you have concerns about the Global Economy, in europe we have new numbers out o yes, out of germag the economy there inverting the most recent quarter. You throw in signs of a slowdown in china, the jobless rate hitting the highest level on record, Property Investment coming in lower than expected. Markets, however, they are higher overnight after the tariff delay. Again, it is a Global Economic slowdown, you have this worry, this recession signal flashing in the treasury market here and its making for a perfect storm for stocks. Turmoil in hong kong as well, creating uncertainty, its on hold for now. Protesters are still at the a airport after flights were disrupted for two days in a row. We have the latest there. And then housing in america, mortgage debt hitting an alltime high, eclipsing the level even hit in 2008 as the financial crisis started. A look at why the numbers have gotten so high and is it worrisome or not . The dangers of texting and driving, the heartstopping video one Police Department released to combat the growing problem. Watch this. That was a crash caused by texting. Here to break it down with he me, moodys Capital Markets chief economist, john lonski, republican pollster, Christian Anderson and kevin kelly. Welcome one and all. Great morning. Yield curve inversion, the two year yield higher than the 10 year for the First Time Since 2007. What does that say . Its says the Global Economy is contracting. Weve seen that in the pmi, the Industrial Production, theyre in the low 50s. The trend is showing them shrinking. Why that matters is that u. S. Investors know that 40 of all revenues for the s p 500 Companies Come from overseas. So if that weakness is going to go into corporate america, you want to be in the treasuries over the stock market, especially heading into a volatile time of the year of the market which is september and october. So theyre going to want to see what the fed actually does in september. Dagen what does the fed do . What does it need to do and will it stabilize the u. S. Economy because thats really the question. I think the fed should provide a positive shock to the u. S. Economy and should bring the federal funds rate down to a level that is maybe commensurate with the 10 year treasury yield right now, thats 1. 62 . Thats a 50 basis point cut, perhaps they should have cut that much at the latest meeting. They didnt. I think that would, again, push investors into riskier assets, it would also promote refinancing as well as debt finance spending. Dagen will it do anything for the economy . I think it definitely will. Oh, definitely. I think its going to provide more liquid at this, liquidity, financial liquidity for the economy. As you hav liquidity, you reduce risk of seizing credit markets. The u. S. Fed cant save the world. The problem this time around is that the world could actually impact the u. S. Economy and weve seen it in our gdp, right. So the problem were going to have is that we cant evade a recession forever. Its going to come. Its just how deep and how much harm can it have in our economies is the real question and when will it come. So im seeing these signals over the next 18 months as they start to trickle into the real economy. Youre seeing copper showing it, youre seeing oil showing it, the treasury market showing it, the Industrial Production showing it. Investors do need to be wear. Ware. The World Economy is sl growing, believe it or not. Germany is slowing. China, Industrial Production is the slowest in 17 years. They constantly lie about their production. If theyre saying theyre at 4. 8 when it was supposed to be at 6, then how bad is it over there. Commodity prices are lower. Copper, whatnot, other base metals are lower, so is oil. Still, the Commodity Prices are well above the lows they set in 2015, 2016. And by the way, helping us get out of that slump in global activity, 2015 and 2016, was a drop by the 10 year treasury yield down to about 1. 5 , 1. 4 . 2015 is when we had our last earnings recession. Earnings recession. Be on the lookout for that. You have to be careful of the risk. Dont add on risk at this point. Dagen before we move on to john busy from the wall street journal, what about the consumer and the confidence there . If peoples confidence turns negative, that could be selffulfilling. Right now, people feel good. People feel pretty good. If you ask people about how things are going in the country generally, theyll be more concerned if had they begin factoring in the Global Security situation, et cetera. They feel like things are a bit unstable. The tariffs have been postponed so folks can get through the Holiday Season without feeling things are too unstable. Its imperative that china and the United States resolve this trade issue as soon as possible. Its inexcusable to keep this waiting out here. They have to come up with a compromise and get that out of the way given the fact we have a global slowdown that could lead us into an outright recession. Dagen that takes us to our the crisis in hong kong. Police storming Hong Kongs International Airport yesterday, clashing with protesters that forced the airport to shut down. The riots grounding flights and leaving travelers stranded. Flights are resuming today as protesters apologize for the violent disruptions. Joining me over the phone is wall street journal associate editor, former editor in chief of the Hong Kong Based journal regional edition, john bussey. Thank you for calling in. We need your perspective and the history. What do you make of whats happened in the last couple of days and what changes the situation on the ground in hong kong . For xijinping, i mean, the violence in a way is an an excue for him to rattle the saber a little more loudly and talk about, well, perhaps china needs to intervene here. But more broadly and sort of the Bigger Picture is that the violence though in inexecutionae at the airport inexcusable at the airport, its kind of a fringe group, and not a small one, of a much larger dissatisfaction within hong kong about chinas encroachment on the colony. This notion of one country, two systems, was very much embraced by hong kong and by the world, quite frankly, that the freedoms of hong kong and critically for american business, the rule of law in hong kong would be permitted to prevail for years after china got hong kong back from the british and that seems to be eroding and has been for the last several years and thats why you saw hundreds and hundreds of thousands of very peaceful hong kongers in the streets over the last few weeks, protesting, very concerned that chinas was bringing its lack of rule of law to hong kong. Dagen john, do you think, because, again, the latest issue that you were talking about in terms of the encroachment on the rights of people in hong kong and weve been talking about it, the bill that would a allow beijing to extradite anyone in hong kong to the mainland, carrie lamb had declared the legislation dead but refused to withdraw it. Do you think it ultimately gets withdrawn . That would be a win for the people of hong kong. Yeah, so she carrie lamb is playing to her minders in beijing and the people of hong kong feel that. And they feel her sort of incremental steps here declaring it dead, not with drawing it, as just an indication that shes waiting for accretion to play here, that slowly but surely chinas hand will move into hong kong. And again, thats why you saw massive protests. This was not a small gathering or a small disruption at the airport that we saw several weeks ago. This was hong kong turning out in a reputiation of china. For that, the u. S. Business economy and the u. S. Needs to very much awareness of the problem. The u. S. Has a very Large Business footprint in hong kong. It is because the rule of law prevails there. You can do contracts, you can do arbitrations, a lot of Regional Headquarters are based in hong kong. So this is a big issue not just for the freedom of people, but for the freedom of movement of commerce and thats whats at stake here for the world. The other thing thats at stake is taiwan. Taiwan is looking at this and thinking to itself, well, you know, all of the love and sort of embracement of china over the years about talking about finding some way of bringing taiwan back into greater china, theyre looking at the experience in hong kong and theyre saying youve got to be kidding. There were promises made and there is encroachment now. The way that china that hong kong is going, taiwan will follow unless we watch ourselves. Dagen does the president need to speak out more forcefully in favor of the people who have been peacefully protesting, the freedoms theyre fighting for essentially . Well, i think that the president might want to take a lesson from precedent. George Herbert Walker bush spoke out very strongly, george bush spoke out strongly, ronald reagan, obama, clinton, theyve always had to step forward and to express the u. S. s concern for the freedoms of people around the world and particularly in hong kong. He might want to take a historical Reference Point on that. Dagen john, good to see you or speak with with you, rather. My pleasure. Dagen we appreciate the time this morning, john bussey from the wall street journal. Lets bring in the Heritage Foundation senior analyst, olivia. What next in hong kong. The wall street journal edito editorial page, the opinion side, said that yesterday was a propaganda victory for beijing as it tries to turn the public against whats been overwhelmingly peaceful protests. And thats the important element that we have to emphasize, that the protests have been overwhelmingly peaceful. Now, unfortunately last night there was an a abbrgation from e norm as the protesters were encouraged not to enter the terminal and i think the u. S. Should be clear and vocal in its support for those who are acting in a peaceful manner. But more importantly, the u. S. Should be very clear in its condemnation of any hints that china might be considering some sort of intervention and i think that there need to be real threats put on the table, including any individual in china to makes the call, there should be an intervention, should be considered for global sanctions, a Treasury Authority that enables them to target individuals on human rights and corruption grounds. This is a serious concern and hopefully china does not intervene and hopefully if it does, its not in a violent way. This is Kristin Anderson of the washington examiner. My questions about sort of the pr side of this. Yesterday you could see some images of some folks at the Airport Holding up signs saying things like sorry for the inconvenience, were fighting for our country. How do you think the images that come from yesterday will affect the way sort of the world looks in on whats going on in hong kong right now . I think that hong kong protesters have to carefully manage their image. They want this to be one that is clear that hong kongers are certainly seeking reform. Theyre looking for a change in their political system that helps them to better communicate to hong kong authorities and i think something to watch in the near term is whether or not hong kong authorities are in fact responsive to the demands of those protesters and i think right now what were seeing is that the ability to communicate between protesters and government seems to be just completely malfunctioning and so we would be looking for some improvements in that regard. Dagen olivia, thank you for being here this. Morning. Im sure well have much more to discuss in the weeks to come. Lets hope for a peaceful resolution. Coming up, drivers be warned, a Chilling Police video proving why you should keep your eyes on the road and not on your phone. Yes, we will show you that. Plus, 2020 heating up, Bernie Sanders taking the lead over former Vice President jo joe bin in a key state, next. Have debt we might d ie with. And most of that debt is actually from credit cards. 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It shows you, it is not worth your life or somebody elses life to text. Dagen thats what makes me furious. I see it. Ive been doing 20 hour roundtrip drives to virginia to see my family and you watch that video and you think about, that is a very busy twolane road. What if that car swerved in the other direction and hit a car with a mother and her children in it headon potentially killing them. Thats what theyre doing. Youre not just putting your own idiot life at risk. Youre putting other peoples lives in danger. You should get thrown in jail for that. Cheryl i applaud the Police Department for posting this. Dagen coming up, immigration lawsuit, two california counties taking on the Trump Administration over the new green card rules, stricter rules to determine whether you will be dependent on government assistance in terms of getting a green card. The legal case on legal immigration. Plus, recession warning signs, mortgage debt piling up to levels not seen in over a decade. 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Right now, epstein as of four days ago, epstein was the highest profile person there. Everybody thats there is temporary, so a lot of movement in and out. A prison is where you go to serve your sentence, youre there for whatever time has been allotted by the court and the law. Youre here in this facility until your involvement with the court system is over. But it was known to everybody from the warden to the janitors that clean the cell, how high profile he was and how in danger his life was. An alleged pedophile if youre accused of something, in the prisoners minds, youre guilty of it. An alleged pedophile is the lowest of the low in a facility like that. With all of that as background dagen and he already tried to kill himself once in july. We believe. But with all of that as background, they have a person watching him who is not a certified corrections officer, meaning not trained in restraining people and in resuscitation and they have two people that probably fell asleep and falsified their records. You can understand the attorney general animous. The bureau of prisons is part of the department of justice. Youll see changes there and a major investigation. I think cbs reported they heard screams coming from the cell. Was there somebody else in there with him or was he screaming at the last minute after he decided to kill himself and it was too late to go back. Dagen that story was not wellreported, ill just leave it at that. I want to raise the issue of now the survivors, any inindicted uninindicted coconspirators, should all of these people who maybe committed crimes, maybe worked with epstein in whatever way, should they be quaking in their boots . Yes, they should. Dagen the pressure is on the fbi and the Justice Department. They should. I understand some of epsteins former lawyers have obtained criminal defense counsel, noncriminal lawyers who had worked for him. Heres the situation as the prosecution stands. Ordinarily, when the defendant is dead, thats the end of the case, cant prosecute a dead person. Cant prosecute his estate. But in this case, the indictment names three employees. Doesnt name them by name, employee one, two and three. And it names other coconspirators, known to the grand jury but not named here. Who are they . Were they the males whom it is alleged ebb stein provided the services of female children for . All of that is going to plus the animus of the attorney general is going to result in an enhanced prosecution of anybody that had anything to do with him. Add to that a new new york state law which took effect seven hours ago midnight last night, which says there is no longer a statute of limitations on sexual abuse. So anybody that alleged that anything that happened to them ithe epstein world, even the stuff that he pleaded guilty to and supposedly was exonerated for in florida, if any of those events occurred in new york, they could file a civil suit. Look for household names along with the estate of Jeffrey Epstein to be defendants in those lawsuits. Dagen judge, great to see you. Likewise, guys. Dagen judge andrew napolitano. Criminally you want to be the first person to talk and cut a deal. We know that. Thats the way the government operates. You cut the first deal, you get the best deal, especially when theres a long train of people behind you that theyre also after. Dagen recession warning signs, markets slideing with the two 10 year treasury yield inverting, so you have to pay more to borrow money if youre the federal government for two years compared to 10 years. Doesnt make sense. Every recession has been preceded by an inverted yield curve since world war ii. You see what its doing to stocks. Wasnt bullying, youtube taking down a viral video of Cnns Chris Cuomo and putting it back. So called him a word that he didnt like and he screamed obscenities at the other guy. Whats the fallout . We debate it later this hour. vo the hamsters, run hopelessly in their cage. Content on their endless quest, to nowhere. But perhaps this year, a more exhilarating endeavor awaits. Defy the laws of human nature,at the summer of audi sales event. Get exceptional offers now. But how do i know if im im getting a good deal . I tell truecar my zip and which car i want and truecar shows the range of prices people in my area actually paid for the same car so i know if im getting a great price. This is how car buying was always meant to be. This is truecar. Dagen welcome back. Im Dagen Mcdowell, in for maria bartiromo. Its wednesday, august 14th. Your stop stories at 7 30 a. M. Eastern time. Breaking news this morning, a recession signal flashing. The yield on the 10 year treasury falling below the yield on the two year treasury. Thats an inversion that investors have been worried about. The 30 year yield falling to a record low but again, right now the yield curve between the two and the 10 is not inverted but historically has been a signal that a recession is on the horizon. Futures are already were already lower because we got germanys economy contracting and then you had poor Economic Data including a high jobless rate out of china. They were already low this morning. There was already selling in the stock market but now a 266 point loss on the dow futures, losses across the board. Nasdaq 100 futures down more than 1 as well. This after yesterdays broadbased rally was sparked by President Trump delaying some china tariffs, now delayed on things like smartphones, toys until december 15th. Again, to benefit holiday shoppers. Concern about the health of the Global Economy hitting markets around the world. We are looking at the european markets, the dax in germany, again, that economy contracting in the most recent quarter. Those stocks down more than 1 andahalf percent. I told you about the signs of a slowdown in china, the jobless rate hitting the highest on record. Factory production, retail sales coming in lower than expected. There was green across the board following the rally in the u. S. Yesterday. And breaking news right now that im going to get kevin kelly to respond to. Wework filing for an ipo, it will list under the symbol we. Well talk about the 2020 race, a new poll shows former Vice President falling behind in one key state. Find out who is in the top slot. And the chris cuomo rant, youtube temporarily took it down. The fallout from the viral video ahead. Breaking news on this wework ipo, in the filing the company reporting a loss of 700 million in the first half of the year. Before this was filed, kevin said in the break wework files its ipo, that will be the top of the market. What trouble do you have with this ipo filing . This company is yeah, so soft bank put 10 billion so far into the company. Last year we highlighted 700 million in the first half. Last year they lost almost 2 billion. Theyre seeking to raise 3. 6 billion. They put a place holder for a billion dollars in this s1. Theyre actually really levered to the economy. If we get an economic slowdown, it should hit them first. They have shorter term Office Leases with small and medium size businesses, over 60 of their revenues that they reported. Theyre valued higher than the actual real estate theyre leasing. Theyre subleasing their space. If you look at a boston properties, theyre looking at a valuation that is significantly higher than their own landlord. Dagen i have said that it doesnt take much to cause a panic in a market that is overvalued and a world thats highly leveraged and this is kind of this is an overvalued, highly leveraged company. This is kind of the perfect storm. Its important to note that soft bank is under water on their latest round into uber. So thats actually pretty telling as well. Uber is actually under their ipo price and the price soft bank came in at the last round. Now, theyre still above theyre still ahead in their initial investment but thats pretty telling. Dagen thank you, kevin. Boom, mic drop. We move on to markets. More on the futures lower this morning as the 10 year and two year treasury yields have inverted. The two year yield higher, was earlier in the morning, higher than the 10 year. That hasnt happened since 2007, right before the financial collapse, right before the Great Recession in 2008. 278 point loss on the dow futures right now. Yesterday it was an up market across the board as President Trump delayed tariffs on certain chinese goods. Now delayed from september 1st until december 15th. That includes smartphones, laptops, toys and video games. Again, just in time for the l Holiday Shopping season. Joining me now, 32 advisors founder and ceo, former Economic Advisor to president obama, Fox News Contributor robert wolf. Robert, its just you and me, kid. What do you make of the market right now . Well, ive been listening to the conversation. Its been quite interesting. Lets just start where the Global Economy is slowing, problems in china, problems in the u. K. , problems in germany, u. S. Is the best. But our economy i think is chugging along. I dont actually see the u. S. In a recession but we are being pulled down by Everything Else going around us. I think the president s policies right now are ill logical. I said that for two years. These trade policies are not policies. Tariffs is a tax on us. It hits the consumer. Were 70 plus consumer economy. This on again, off again tariff, trade, its hurting us. Because companies have to get ready for the future. They have to do Capital Investment. They have to start looking at at business inventory. They have to start thinking about manufacturing, doesnt happen on a day, they build for the year, the second year, the third year. What were seeing right now is Business Investment and Capital Investment is slowing and i think its and its clearly by what were seeing around the world that this policys not working for anyone. And i understand the president saying he wants to hit china and thats all good. But were hitting us as well. Look at whats happening in farmland, that you and i have been speaking about, where weve had two bailouts and this can continue. So this is not great policy. Dagen robert, but there are talks scheduled on china. If we get i think its in september, in a matter of weeks, here in washington, i believe. If we get a resolution on that, will that ease any concerns . Will it revive Business Investment, giving them a more certain road ahead . I think that would be great. I think any time we have a situation where we can give certainty to companies and certainty to the investment market, those are good things. Weve been hearing that i think you and i had an over under that it was going to happen in march. Both of us took the under. Now were talking september. I mean, who could predict what is going to happen between china and the u. S. , its been so volatile for so many years. Dagen and goldman sachs, many people talking about nothing happening until after the election next year. But lets talk about the election and 2020 and the democratic candidate, Bernie Sanders has overtaken Vice President joe biden in a new New Hampshire poll, sanders seeing 21 support to bidens 15 , Elizabeth Warren with 12 , mayor Pete Buttigieg and Kamala Harris seeing less than 10 support each. The New York Times reporting that John Hickenlooper is considering ending his president ial run to seek a senate seat in colorado. So were a few days past the iowa state fair. What did he these early voting states look like to you . Who has the best ground game, say, in iowa and then New Hampshire . Yeah. Well, we got some interesting polls yesterday. Nationally it looks like about a third of the Party Supports what i would say the pop ha pop poput which is sanders and warren, and a third is with biden and the rest is split, with can cay kama feeling the best of the other group. With respect to the early primaries, feels about a third, a third and a third, the Vice President , former vice be president s looking good in iowa. Its not surprising that bernie and elizabeth will do well in New Hampshire. I mean, from where bernies from and where elizabeth is from, they corner New Hampshire. Its not surprising, theyll do well. Its not their home state but its pretty close. I think for the Vice President , he has to show obviously a good showing in the upcoming debates, as do others. We have th the debates less thaa month away, the third debates. It will be either one night if we stay at 10 or under or two nights and it looks like well probably get to two nights because it looks like steyer will be in and maybe a few others. I think right now we have to show that we have to whittle the field, actually. That would be the best thing for the party. Dagen do you think the candidates go after Vice President biden on some of the gaffes that we heard over the weekend. Simone sanders who works on his Campaign Came out with a passionate defense of the Vice President. But there is some question as to whether people try to take advantage of that in the debates. Do you think that happens . Can he push through . Again, its an issue. If youre going to be authentic, people are going to misspeak sometimes. Myself included, quite frankly. Hey, listen, dagen, when i was in college and all along, they used to calm them wolfyisms, they used to put phrases together and i used to make them up and i think ive done okay. I dont think these gaffes is going to be the reason why people vote or dont vote for joe biden. I think hes been having these gaffes for about 40 years. It hasnt really changed. That being said, i think hes going to have to exude a lot of confidence on the debate stage. They want to see the Vice President have his mojo back. I think thats what a lot of us are looking for. But i dont think that this is going to be about who has less gaffes. I mean, the truth is, if you want to put lies on one spectrum and gaffes on another, i think ill take gaffes all day. Dagen who are you talking about . Well, i think i was just reading the washington post, its over 12,000. So you can read it. Ill let you guys take it from there. Dagen okay. [ laughter ] dagen robert wolf, i learned something about you. I didnt know that. Ill be listening for that, what, wolfyisms, is that what theyre called . Those little gaffes. Its okay. Im trying to do a little better job with it. Dagen im working on three hours of sleep so it happens all day long. Youve been doing a great job, your interviews with kevin on wework and the judge on the epstein case, which is a whole different case, they were great. Dagen recession warning signs, mortgage debt piling to levels not seen in more than a decade. What you should know, next. Can the past help you write the future . Can you feel calm in the eye of a storm . Can you do more with less . Can you raise the bar while reducing your footprint . For our 100 years weve been answering the questions of today to meet the energy needs of tomorrow. Southern company fun fact 1 in 4 of us millennials have debt we might die with. And most of that debt is actually from credit cards. Its just not right. 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This is as a result of the drop in Interest Rates. Interest rates are under 4 , falling to that level in may. It definitely gives people incentive to go out and purchase new homes, if they can afford it to take advantage of the rates. Certainly, the numbers were seeing, that 9. 4 trillion, it is higher than the 2008 peak and some people are saying, look, mortgage debt is a very big components of overall Household Debt and is this a red flag that we should be concerned about . Its interesting, because during the housing bubble you had a lot of delinquent debt. Doesnt seem to be the case this time. Seems people are being more responsible with their payments as this is happening. Youre seeing refinances are going up. 17. 5 billion in cash was drawn out of homes as well. And that is higher than we saw in 2006. But again, some of the evidence shows that people are doing better with those payments and theyre being more responsibility. I want to being more responsible. I want to add one more point. This is interesting from the federal housing administration, a change in rules to stimulate the condo market, for first time buyers. New rules are requiring only 3. 5 down and lower Credit Scores than conventional loans if you get that fha loan for entry level condos and first time buyer, trying to stimulate things. Talked about this on monday, where certain pockets of the country where prices are up and inventories are tight but a lot of places are building as well. Seems that the administration is trying to stimulate those areas. But its something certainly to watch, not necessarily a huge red flag just yet. Dagen john, what do you say . I think youre exactly right. Its not a red flag. The ratio of mortgage debt to personal income is much lower today than it was back in 2008 and how interesting that we had to wait 11 years to return to that record high which tells me theres basically no growth during that period from 2008 to today. We had a housing bubble and it popped. It would make sense this would climb back slowly and it didnt do it in too quick of a time. Also, the average price of homes relative to personal income is, again, significantly lower today than it was in 2006, 2008. Nothing to become frightened about. But this relaxation of mortgage lending standards, if that stays around for a while and starts pushing home prices higher, then id become worried. Dagen final word, real quick. Between relaxing standards and covenantlight loans, i mean, this does feel eeriely like 2007, 2008. Im on the housing front youre getting carried away. Youre not getting carried away as far as leveraged loans are concerned. Dagen its never going to be the same crisis back to back. Thats why the currency problems last week kind of freaked people out. Jackie, thank you. Futures sliding, near the lows of the morning, 355 point on te dow futures. The two year yield higher than the 10 year yield earlier. 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Dagen youtube temporarily deleted a video that showed cnn anchor chris cuomo confronting a heckler after being called the word fredo from the godfather. Youre a more reasonable guy in person than you seem to be on television. If theres something you want to say about what i do on television, say it. Listen youre going to have a big problem. Whats the problem. Its different on tv. Dont insult me like that. Dont call me fred. Dagen youtube released a statement saying this, with the massive volume of videos on our site, sometimes we make the wrong call. When its brought to our attention that a video has been removed mistakenly, we act quickly to reinstate it. We also offer up loaders the ability to a appeal removals and we will rereview the content. Joining us now, the cyber guy, kurt knutsson. Why did the video get taken down . Egg shells, theyre walking on egg shells is why. Were talking about youtube, not understanding what position they should take on this one. At first, it looked like the video did contain what looked like at least a very abusive, hateful context to it. You would watch the whole video and probably say yes again. If you look at the context of the video, you find out the youtubeer behind this is a massive jerk that goes about trying to instigate these kinds of things from people and putting it in context, does the video belong there. If i were youtube, i might err and say it has hit one of the check boxes that cause people to have videos removed from youtube list is hateful or abusive content or harmful, dangerous acts, list goes on to hate speech, harassment, cyber bullying. Clearly, anyone can see this video and say either one of the parties in the video is at least checking one of these boxes but should it come down . When it becomes so public like this, theres another thing i think youtubes thinking about which is do we want to be seen as the censor of a video and stop it from going out and does that create a bigger problem . At this moment, theres not one thing they can do correctly with regard to this video. But we as americans can say this is garbage. Its all garbage. And put it into context. Dagen yeah, public figure and no actual physical violence. There it is. Kurt knutsson, thank you so much. Still ahead, futures in a freefall, recession warning signs. More ahead. Your daily dashboard from fidelity. A visual snapshot of your investments. Key portfolio events. All in one place. Because when its decision time. You need decision tech. Only from fidelity. 2,000 fence posts. 900 acres. 48 bales. All before lunch, which we caught last saturday. We earn our scars. We wear our work ethic. We work until the works done. 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Investors running for the safety of treasuries and selling stocks, we now have a 370 point loss on the dow futures after the rally yesterday. The treasury market, the treasuries out of stocks, its fueling kind of market volatility. Right now we have earnings from macys, we will see how this changes Investor Sentiment if at all, Lauren Simonetti has the numbers. Lauren. Lauren right now not at all, dagen, macys shares are tumbling in premarket, they just reported earnings, first of major Department Stores to report, when the stock is down 12 on the news, you know the news is not good, big miss, coming at 28 cents, expecting 45 cents and that expectation was a decline of 35 . So this is much, much worse than expected. As for revenue, a slight beat here, 5. 555 billion in the Second Quarter but this report not what wall street expected from macys, when you look at the Stock Performance on the year, it is down 35 , it is the fifth worst performer out of the entire s p 500, the good news for macys came yesterday about tariffs on clothing and shoes, for instance, would be delayed until december 15th, however, 345eu macys does sell a lot of furniture and furniture has been exposed to tariffs already. And as you know macys coming to this report was already struggling. Dagen thank you very much, Lauren Simonetti, kevin, look at the stock reaction. Yeah. Dagen premarket, the stock is down 11 , your reaction to macys, again, we get walmart tomorrow overall retail sales, is this just a one of off if you will, a Company Problem . No, i think its a Company Problem, its emblematic of retail space, they have to focus on experimental, this is just emblematic of the tough times in retail, its always been a doggy dog world in retail environment and you have to focus, not only physical store but also online, you have to have that complement, 95 of overall retail sales are done between omni channel players and macys has to win in in the online game and that is the most competitive losing game, hurts their margins the most, thats why you can see a company like macys miss because if youre going to try to win in the online game, thats a loss for a lot of companies. Dagen i want to talk about inversion to have yield curve, did i explain it correctly to the viewers properly why this is a recession signal. We keep saying historically a signal for recession but what why is it moving the way that it is, why is more why is the yield lower on the 10year at this point. Every recession in recent memory was proceeded by an inverted yield curve and so thats reason enough to worry about the possible end to this recordlong economic recovery, that being said, not every inverted yield curve has been followed by a recession, so i think we still have an opportunity to try to do something with Monetary Policy to eliminate the inverted yield curve, and as you stated what youre noticing here is that investors are losing confidence in the future, they are getting into treasuries, they are getting out of equities, they are getting to very safe treasury securities on the basis they think that theyre going to be protected from lower equity priced at the same time perhaps realizing capital gain and increase in the price of Treasury Bonds as the 10year treasury yield falls even further. Dagen i want to ask you this, kevin, lindsey bell sent this, lindsey bell sent email this morning and we were discussing, the fed needs to get ahead of this, the market and treasury markets, you need to cut rates dramatically in september because, again, when you look at the 30 basically the 30year yield is right in line with where the fed funds rate is, its overnight lending rate, thats a 30year loan, thats how upside the world is, makes it difficult for banks to make Money Lending and lindsey points out, in 1995 we faced a similar situation with manufacturing slowing, unemployment at lows at the time and the yield curve was flatting, the fed started rate cutting psych that will outpaced markets expectations and market able to rebound with the economy avoiding recession, the wild card remains trade. So the market is anticipating two more cuts, total of 75 basis points cut during year of 2019. Weve gotten 25 basis point cut, in september theyll do 25 or 50 and they wouldnt do anything in october or theyll do 25 in 25, first of all, the fed needs to focus on the messaging, we saw after last cut market went down because chairman powell said dont expect us to have cut after cut after cut, that may be a oneoff situation or maybe choppy when we get to cut. Market sold off because of that. Dagen real quick. Kevin is exactly right, i just looked at fed funds future and thats sign, only 15 probability to a 50 basis point rate cut at the next meeting on september 18th, id like to see that. 25 basis points is the anticipated they havent changed their mind. Dagen i will make a prediction by the end of the day if this holds up, those odds will be the expectation will be much higher for 50 basis points. Real quick, i want to make the point that serve worried about recession because the last one was so deep and hurt so much, the Great Recession, the next recession shouldnt be as bad because weve got fiscal banking side on the private side in Better Health right, so banks wont be wiped out, we dont have to worry thats a great point, banks are much more capitalized today than 2007, they are better able to withstand loan losses. I dont want people to panic. They made a case for ratifying the u. S. Mexican ood trade deal, listen to this. I see them empty and i see jobs going to other countries and i just never understood why the politicians didnt do anything about it but now we are doing it and by the way, the usmca, thats mexico and dan canada, thats a fantastic deal and good deal for unions, we have the farmers, the unions, the manufacturers, its good to get everybody, we have to get democrats to put it up for the vote and most democrats will vote for it too, that replaces one to have worst trade deals ever made which is nafta. Dagen well, speaking of democratic congressman, sean, unions, manufacturing and farmers, that sums illinois, congressman, are you going to vote in favor do you think it comes up for a vote usmca and vote yea on it . The usmca is needs improvement, in my ideal world the best Case Scenario improve and the best case keep nafta and worst case to get them all away. What i told ambassador lighthizer is theres 3 problems, pharmaceutical price and extended generic protection, labor issues that makes it far too easy to send jobs to mexico that we didnt fix from nafta and real enforcement problems that are basically drafting errors that allow any party to a dispute to essentially block the arbitration process. Any normal process, those would be fixed by trade ambassadors and mr. Lighthizer is working in good faith on that, what i have said with him given that the president s discomfort with the truth, a word from the president that he will change this after we approve i have to assume is a lie and so i said to mr. Lighthizer, to have my vote, those things will be fixed before we vote on it not not that we vote with a promise that they will fix afterwards, thats very tricky, but unfortunately, you know, our job as congress is to approve trade deals with the information we have and i have to look under the assumption that needs to be getting at the point signed, not on the promise that it would be fixed later. Whats your assessment of how the rest of your conference feels on this issue . Do they have similar concerns or do you think that yield position is perhaps more open to hacking usmca than many others in the democratic conference . Well, we had very diverse caucus but i think my views are consistent with the majority of the caucus, theres real concerns, i mean, a lot of us ran on Prescription Drug pricing and provision that we will extend generic patent protection for additional 2 to 3 years, thats a problem for a lot of us, we have a lot of us who care deeply about Labor Protections who watched us ship jobs to mexico because factory in el paso paying 7 and Ciudad Juarez paying 80 cents. And i think, again, the challenge a lot of us have is what the president up to 11,000 lies, you cant take him at his word, thats a real problem for me as a legislator because i i need to know that what im signing is binding and i cant take that assumption and i will tell you that the overwhelming majority of my caucus doesnt not trust the president s word and that makes more challenging than it should be. Dagen i wont get you to comment on the stock market, we are watching the futures and the picture worsening this morning, dow futures down more than 400 points at the moment, again, you have a signal in the treasury market where the yield on the 2year higher than the yield on the 10year and inversion to have yield curve particularly in this part of the yield curve has historically been a sign of a recession on the horizon, whats your biggest economic concern of your constituents . Frankly the biggest economic concern is the republicans tax bill, this is a district that got really hosed by the salt cap deduction and that is the number one issue right here all of the time, thats why ive introduced legislation with congresswoman underwood to partially restore some of that pain, that is the big driver right now. Its having a hugely depressive value on home values in the area and thats thats hitting people. 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China trade tensions, President Trump delaying part of the next round of tariffs on some products until december, middecember, some companies are waiting to see the impact of potential currency manipulation by china, joining us now senior strategist wolfgang, what do you make of where the trade negotiations stand right now with china . Well, i think we will keep seeing negotiations on its part and creating volatility and for the investors whats important is to see what companies are going to be impacted by this more or less, who will be the winners and who will be the losers, this is going to continue, this isnt over yet and probably going to go right to the elections. Yeah, wolfgang, we saw technology do very well, there was because of the reprieve, you know, technology tends to get hit hardest because of supply chain and especially the costs coming from overseas, so one of the things that im worried about is the Technology Investors not only the currency war but also mutually assured disruption, we saw intel actually had to sell 5g modem business to apple because it was losing money for so listening and they couldnt compete against qualcomm, how should you position portfolios especially technology because i see the infrastructure side as great way to get reprieve but still get growth of technology . Youre absolutely right, what you need to do as investor, you need to look at companies that are revisiting entire supply chain and say can we really continue to take the risk about everything being sourced out of china or im going to start looking at producing vietnam or in mexico, malaysia, et cetera, whats the best thing to do to diversify supply chain and continue to on and the winners the ones who actually understand that this is not something thats going to go away overnight and adjusting accordingly, so those are going to be the winners and those are the ones that you want to look at and i agree with you 100 on that. Wolfgang, im concerned about if china decides to allow currency to fall further, this implies further depreciation and that will make matters worse, am i correct of that assumption . I think you are, i think that we will be very careful assuming that people are just going to have this as ive turned it for years now race to the bottom on the currencies, at some point this is going to be creating, obviously we have currency manipulators and theres lots of countries on the list since 2015, but at tend of the day you have to go back to what Companies Understand how to manage this properly as investor so if im worried about general motor who is has 20 of their sales in china, more actually, 40 of sales in china, what is General Motors doing about it and how do they communicate that to investors but until General Motors is stronger about relating that, its an issue, but i think from a repatriation of the dollars its an issue. Thats what ive been saying wolfgang, be careful of the u. S. , quote, winning, unquote the trade war because of the damage it will do to companies not just into the u. S. Economy, not just the global slowdown but it might throw fuel log but also the companies doing business there whether its a tesla thats building a giga factory there, heavily highly Indebted Company and what does it do to its ability to pay the debt back, General Motors, for example, we simply dont know yet how this plays out. I just do want to point out that General Motors pointed out it has 18 billion in cash with potential to pay 2 years worth of dividends from chief, great to see you. Great to see you, thank you. Dagen hostility in hong kong, clashes erupt at hong kong International Airport crippling the airport for 2 straight days, the latest as flights begin taking off again. July imexport prices due out moments from now, any sign of inflation . We are watching the markets, almost 40point 400point loss. Obviously. Retirement, were going with a longterm play. Makes sense. Pet insurance, wait, let me guess. Flea flicker. Yes howd you know . Studying my playbook . Yeah, actually. 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We are talking about what weve been watching all morning is a recession signal flashing, the yield on the 10year treasury earlier in the session had fallen below that on the twoyear treasury, historically this inversion yield curve, remember, weve been talking about this all year long, the 3 has been higher than 10year, this is a critical part of the yield curve where earlier this the 2year was higher than 10year and this is a sign of recession historically indicater but right now inflation, july importexport prices are out, Lauren Simonetti has the numbers. Lauren its showing up, imported inflation for the month of july, increased and we were expecting no change, import prices, goods coming to our shores rose 2 tenths of 1 in july from june as for export prices they did rise by the same number, also two tenths of 1 , dagen. Dagen export prices were also up as well. Lauren exports up as well and same expectation there unchanged. Dagen thank you very much, Lauren Simonetti. Core Consumer Prices for two months in a row, strongest twomonth gain in more than decade, little inflation, maybe, what do you make of i dont find this to be alarming, i think what we will find out is that consumers will resist higher prices and thats going to be costly to real consumer spending, retailers, macys, macys revenues beat expectations but the earnings per share were well under expectations that can mean only one thing, costs are rising rapidly and eventually the inventories build up and the prices will settle down. If this is really a problem, problem with inflation, we would see that 10year treasury yield moving higher, instead its been moving lower. Very good point, macys lowered guidance, 2019 guidance earnings per share, if you take a look at the stock premarket trading at macys, we are watching the futures, the futures are off their lows in the morning, futures down more than 400 points earlier, macys shares plunging more than 4 in premarket trading earlier. Its down more than 13 right now and we are talking about these futures and inversion of the yield curve between the twoyear yield and the 10year yield, Dierdre Bolton in the floor of new york stock exchange. The inversion between the 10 and the 2, that hasnt happened since july 2007 and thats marker that obviously upsets many people and, of course, when people talk about this inverted yield curve as youve been doing with your guest on sentiment level it makes people worry because they say, okay, when this happens, recession often follows, i want to call your attention as well to financials, i heard you talk about retails and from what we are seeing here as well, they are down but the financials also moving lower on this inverted yield curve, the idea being all of the businesses, the banks, all of the names that we know harder for them to make money when they are borrowing long term, lending shortterm, that does not bode well for the financials in todays session, i want to mention the 30year too, dagen, a lot of strategists that were emailing us, calling us, when you see the 30year be this up, investors are buying longterm debt, thats another sign of fear in the market, all of the entire yield story no matter what you pick are leaving investors with very little alternative in stocks, if they dont like stocks where are they going to go, great piece by colleagues, but in the meantime, dagen, we are seeing inverted yield curve to affect futures, im looking at them down 400 points right now, so open in the red at least thats any opinion. Back to you. Dagen thank you so much, dierdre, i just got on email from andy, guest on the Fox News Network over the years, bonds are screaming that the Global Economy is going under recession, german gdp confirming that with a negative trent and with the inversion, the 10year hit new low today of 1. 57 , joining me watch the last 2 hours, thats all weve been talking about. Dagen yes, exactly. The banks we will get to herman cain, i want to say this really quickly, but the banks were screaming this last week, you had a major selloff in financial stocks, and 15 trillion in debt globally, it really turns the entire Financial System and Banking System on its head and when you have inversion of the yield curve, its very difficult to make longerterm loans at rates that are lower than what youre paying to borrow money shortterm. Its called the net interest right. The essence of banking. Exactly. They are getting hit hard and youve seen the most pessimistic ceos on the streets are the bank ceos. Dagen good point, right now we have this is a normal as much as normal as these days, the normal yield curve, the 2 years below the 10year, john, i will get to you in a second, i want to get to herman cain, herman, youre a businessman, you were at least your flame was being thrown out there as being on the Federal Reserve board, what do you make of this market and the economy at this point . First of all, Global Economy is complex and i dont recommend anyone reacting to one single metric, but what i believe that all of these metrics and all of the movement and this inversion it suggests that the Federal Reserve should act sooner rather than later, they have a history of acting later than sooner, before things get really, really bad i believe that they should be more aggressive, thats what it says to me and if i were on the Federal Reserve board, this is what i would be screaming to the rest of the Federal Reserve board governors. Herman, this is Kristin Anderson from the washington examiner, you know, in addition to the issues regarding Interest Rates and what the fed should do, you also have the issue of trade moving out there with even with today, look, we are going to suspend some of the tariffs on china for a couple of months still trade dispute with china in place as well as questions about whether usmca will get passed. What is your outlook for whether this economy a year from now will, you know, we know that the president right now does pretty well in polls when asked about how the economy is doing, whats your outlook for political implications for all of this looking further down the road . I dont believe we will be in a recession a area from now, i really dont, secondly, what the president is doing is negotiating with china, china has been a difficult for years, they have gone back on some of their agreements, but chaos, we have seen in hong kong, its not about airplanes, its about a 1997 agreement with the Chinese Communist government that they made with the United Kingdom and that Chinese Communist government went back and broke it. Thats what the demonstrations are all about and what the president is doing, hes demonstrating theres a new sheriff in town. We previously had had too many president s and too many administrations that would just roll over whenever china wanted to do something, here is one other point, Business People will adjust to these variations and prices whether they abroad or here at home. Thats what they do, they adjust, im not that concerned that this will spiral out of control. Dagen politically herman, you ran for the republican president ial nomination, the president is in a tough spot and i want to bring kristin back in here because, again, the american view of china has has worsened, 60 of americans hold negative view on china at this point unfavorable opinions hitting 14year high, they seem to be based on the Pew Research Poll with the president , but if the economy weakens going into a president ial year, that leaves him in a vice . I think it will leave him in a vice but here is the thing, i believe that the American People reflecting the statistics you gave about being more unfavorable to china, they are figuring chinas modus operendi, what the president is doing leverage trade talks maybe to get 3, 6 or 12 months from now, that i believe the American People see whats going on and they are on his side, many of them know that he has to play hardball with china if we are ever going to get anything and in the past weve never got anything substantively. Dagen herman, i want to bring kristin, kristin in here about the president has he he is a master at communication, like it or not, and the president has been since last year really setting up jay powell at fault, does that work . Overall president ial job approval numbers are by the strong economy, if we get to a year from now and the economy is not doing as well, what impact does it have on his reelect and by being able to say, look, people always give president s more credit and more blame for the state of the economy than probably warranted but by being able to say, look, its the fault of china, its the fault of congress, its the fault of the fed that the economy is not doing what it should be, dont look at me, look at them, hes trying set up a situation where he can divert blame for some bad Economic News if thats what we are looking, 12, 18 months from now. Dagen herman, yeah, continue. I wanted to add one other point to what she just said. Dagen yes, sir. Politically, the president has been beat up, challenged, lied on in every which way you can from a political standpoint but here is why i believe that the American People are hanging in with the president , he just continues to do his job and people see that. I believe that thats one of his greatest assets, he is not deterred or slowed down by all of this rhetoric and all of these attacks that are coming from the president ial democratic wannabes as well as elected democrats. Dagen i want to ask you this herman, the nfl and social justice, the nfl has is bringing on jay z to smooth over issues regarding social justice and expand the nfls Entertainment Offerings like making the halftime show better, i would suggest never, ever have maroon 5 back, thats coming after the anthem protests from colin kaepernick, where does this go from here, you think . I think that you have two different cultures, you have the culture of the nfl organizations and the players that may bring tensions that most of us dont even know about, then you have the general public, we dont see all of this stuff that maybe they are feeling and seeing other than seeing people that want to kneel during the national anthem, so jay zs impact, i cant predict whether its going to be positive or negative and for the nfl organizations and nfl to say that we want to do a better job at half time shows and entertainment and all of that, sobeit, you know, it doesnt impact the general public, the general public still wants to keep politics out of sports, thats how we relax, they want to just keep it out. Here is an impact i really cant predict what is really going to do longterm. Herman, great to see you, thank you so much for being here. Thank you, dagen. Dagen we are watching the markets, of course, recession fears escalating with the twoyear yield this morning topping the yield on the 10year and inverted yield curve, this is recession signal, has been going back to world war ii, Stuart Varney will weigh in and hong kong crisis, police storming the International Airport yesterday clashing with protestors, force today forced to shut down terminals, the latest as flights resume. Fun fact 1 in 4 of us millennials have debt we might die with. And most of that debt is actually from credit cards. Its just not right. But with sofi, you can get your credit cards right by consolidating your Credit Card Debt into one monthly payment. You can get your Interest Rate right by locking in a fixed low rate today. And you can get your money right. With sofi. Check your rate in 2 minutes or less. Get a nofee personal loan up to 100k. Mothat a handle is just a is jushandle. Ir. Or that you cant be both inside and outside. 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I dont know whether the inversion right on clear line of inversion and noninversion, i dont know whether thats going to lead to recession, but i think ive got a good idea as to why Interest Rates are tumbling whether they are long rate or short rates, they are tumbling because america has strong economy, america offers a rate of return, most of the rest of the world does not, we received word this morning that germanys economy actually contracted, most of europe is at or close to recession, china is slowing down, we, on the other hand, have strong and growing economy at 2 rate per area. We also on interest if you invest in american treasury bond or security and american treasury security. You get a rate of interest, you get no interest in europe or japan, in fact, they keep some of the money that you have given to them. Thats why money is pouring into america that drives up treasury prices and drives down treasury yields. Thats my opinion of whats going on. Its actually a sign of strength of america. Now, why its leading to this downside move in the stock market is because conventional economic say that is when you get this inversion short rates higher than longterm rates like in 2007, short sign of recession, thats maybe, but im taking it assign of strength that money is pouring into america. What do you say . Dagen i cant wait for the next 3 hours on Varney Company first and foremost 9 00 a. M. And noon eastern, but theres definitely a worry among stock investors that the u. S. Economy will continue to weaken but potentially the treasury market is clear i will saying that the Federal Reserve is behind in the rate cuts that they need to do more, bring down shorterterm Interest Rates, i tried to point out that banks cant make money on your Net Interest Margin when shortterm rates are higher than longterm rates, to put it in perspective, stuart, if you look at the 30year, what the 30year treasury is yielding, thats right in line with the overnight lending rate is. Yes. Dagen hes thats not a word where bank can make money and thats a concern of the u. S. Economy. Stuart here is another area of analysis, surely the Federal Reserve is going to lower rates to the tune of half percentage point next time they meet, they are going to be stampeded into it, arent they, i would have thought supposed to be good news for the market but perhaps this time around its not, dagen. Dagen stuart, thank you so much, vuk Varney Company 9 00 a. M. To noon, thank you, mr. 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Consumer is continuing to spend. Whether we like it or not, the World Economy now depends on the continued growth of Household Spending in the United States. Today we did have a little bit of good news that was overlooked. Home buyer Mortgage Applications were up from the previous week, up 12 from a year ago. Moreover, applications for mortgage refinancings up 37 from the previous week, up three times from where they were a year ago. Dagen kevin . 40 of the s p 500 earnings come from overseas. That could mean that margins could come down, you could see earnings take a hit. I would stick with the great real estate names that have performed. Its the Distribution Centers that get you packages, revenue up 26 this past quarter. Stick with the Distribution Centers as well as cell phone towers, data centers, because we all use the internet. This mornings yield curve inversion, if we start seeing more and more signs that are potentially foreboding for the economy, expect to see messages from the president like the fed, like congress, that are standing in the way of better growth. Dagen what can the president do to kind of settle things . Call a truce in the trade war. That would help. Dagen from your mouth to the worlds ears. Great to see you all. That doies it for us. Varney company starts right now. Stuart . Stuart good morning, dagen. Good morning, everyone. Please look right off the top at this. Huge selloff this morning, wiping out most if not all of yesterdays gains from the rally. We are down bigtime. The dow industrials will be off well over 300 points. The s p, about 1. 33 . The nasdaq over 100 points, 1. 5 down at the opening bell this morning. Heres the backdrop. Longterm rates are now below shortterm rates. Actually, they are right about even right there. We had an inversion earlier. That inversion is considered a signal of a coming recession. As our rates fall, so does the stock market. Go figure that one. Look, in my opinion, longterm