Mcshane. Glen hall. Independent women forum had hadly heed manning. What time frame were looking at. Looking like it is going in his direction. So much hundred unusual that whether it would get done minutia. They want this thing finalized by today. You start debates next week. Midweek the plan still is to have the president signing into law which is interesting because once you get to the end of next week, it is not talked about as much today, again were talking about all the details of getting this particular bill passed, you run up against the other deadline, making sure the government is funded, not shutting down next friday. Still trying to get you will of that done before then seems to be the rule. Neil i hear you. Glen, one thing you immediately hear of, as soon as one concession to made to senator to keep him in line you tick others off, right. You will hear others how we pay for it. Neil corker, why he was a no vote going in. Might remain a no vote. That is the challenge. They have to keep it under the 1. 5 trillion cap. That is the budget bill. Those are restrictions that are real. That said, this new move up to 1400 per child from 1100, crosses that 55 threshold that marco rubio tweeted about this morning. 70 of the old number which was 2,000. If he is in, wonder, they to the two votes to work with, right . In terms of losing anybody. Neil who are the two votes . Susan collins potentially. Not just those. But also the risk from john mccain and Thad Cochrans illnesses whether they can vote as well. Neil hadley, we dont know how we got up to the 1400 credit both these gentlemen referred to. Is there any other news were missing here . Either the top rate wont go down to 37 or the corporate rate wont settle at 21, maybe high, do we know . Well it will have to be one of those options or some other creative solution that we havent mentioned yet. I angles are the political one and policy one. From the political perspective i think senator rubio is negotiating in good faith. Another issue to be a no vote and another issue to have an issue what it takes to get your vote. This is political win for him if he get this is. Policy side is different. More than one way to do tax relief for low income families. Child tax credit may not be best way to do that. Tradeoffs are involved. Well see what ultimately republicans interesting point that hadley make. At this point the bill is closed off. There wont be more changes to it. Neil i would think. If we dont know the tradeoffs now, someone opposed to tradeoffs, correct me if im wrong, wouldnt know either and wouldnt have a chance neil theyre votes on blueprint of something, right . This is what we agreed to . This is Conference Committee bill. They are putting it out there. Members of the Conference Committee signing off and intend to release it by end of the day to keep the timeline intact. Neil senator johnson wanted better treatment of smaller businesses passthroughs et cetera, i find out it came out of my hide or changed well find out until the last second . You are going to change your vote then. Neil i see. Hadley, i dont envision any of this happening. I think there is such enormous pressure right now to get this done, that you know, each side will argue those, you know, who pushed for concessions got what they wanted. What do you think . Yeah. Ultimately republicans i think have learned a hard lesson from the debacle was their attempt at Health Reform this summer. They understand ifer this a no vote on this, making perfect enemy of the good. Dont think about the tax reform bill be all, end all, comprehensive sy reform. We can look at Capital Gains tax reform or removing unfair treatment Green Energy Companies enjoy. This current bill doesnt take those things on. Neil you cant take them on if your majority is whittled down or you dont have a majority. That is the real fear. They need a win, neil. That is why they need a win. Twovote majority slims to one vote come the new year. Neil that alabama timing of election and doug jones coming in. Chad pergram talked a lot about this, Government Shutdown deadline being next friday. So then congress, you know, supposed to go on their regular christmas recess after that. Say the government, it is not out of the question it would shut down that is thornier issue getting votes for tax cuts. Do they come back to work on that the week after, by that point, day after christmas, the result in alabama would probably be certified. Doug jones could theoretically be sworn in, which would take to your point one vote off the margin the republicans have 5149, instead of 5248. Neil part of the complication of tax cut would be help republicans beg legislative victory and wind at their back and they feel it. What if they dont . Big tax cuts historically gone to votes with minority the americans liking them. At least going into them. They appreciated them after the fact. Ronald reagans but this might not be felt by november. One obvious way the big personal deduction. It will simplify tax code for many people. They have itemized options. Neil but you dont take that deduction until doing taxes after next year . Thats right. They will not know it this year. Neil next year youre going through the midterms. In other words i understand your point. Neil im not trying to trivialize the argument, when do people feel it, net in paycheck. It will be in the paychecks. If they can see the paychecks going up a little bit. They will feel satisfied. If they dont see that. If it takes longer to implement. That is a whole big challenge itself that could delay. I think they feel it in their paychecks before we get to voting season. Neil within usually six months after a tax cut, it depend to all our points when certain things are phased in, but we do see a smile on a lot of peoples faces. Hadley you hope a lot of people are smiling but what if theyre not . I ultimately i think this is going to come down not just changes in individual tax code but changes on corporate side. People arent wrong saying biggest change in the tax code will be reduction of corporate rate from 35 to 20, 21 . We dont have the advantage living in alternative unpercent we see what happens if the tax reforms end up failing. There is expectation built into our markets and built into our businesses well see some kind of tax reform. And republicans are going to have the make the case this is beneficial not just to shareholders and people who have pensions and people who depend on those invests but to workers themselves. We know Corporate Tax rates are cut in other countries, workers see increased wage growth. We want that in the u. S. As well. Republicans have to make that happen. There so no agreement that might happen. He said making a trillion dollar mistake, largely based on the fact corporations dont, quote, unquote, need the money. So if they were going to spend their money on their own businesses to hadleys point raised wages they would have already done it. There is a lot of money already on the sidelines. He says adding more money to that doesnt necessarily agree they will do that there is no incentive. Neil what if the worse they do plow back into the stock. Exactly. That might, shareholders neil cynicism what we feared. Weve seen in the market. When they looked like the tax bill was under threat, we saw it hit the market. We see it going back up because it looks like it is coming through. That translates into the economy writ large. If that momentum continues i think you see positive impact. Strengthening the financial picture for big employers like big businesses, this tax bill would include changes for Small Businesses that could be beneficial as well. If you ask majority of americans if they would rather work for employer in good financial shape or a poor financial shape, they would say the better financial shape is the place where they want to be at work. That means more security their employment. Neil that is a very good point, if they had their druthers would i like my boss financially stable or not. That is interesting way to frame it. The left is going to pull the you know Political Class warfare card as soon as this bill gets signed. That will be the number one talking point. Neil people on the left do like working for a boss who is fiscally sound, whether boss is conservative or liberal. Well watch it closely. Hadley, connell, glenn, thank you all very much. The dow is up 350 points. Were 340 points from 25,000. This is incredible. Charlie gasparino, speaking of incredible, breaking news on Justice Department suit against at t and time warner. What did you say, bud . You say my taxes are going up, that is class warfare argument . Neil just you. Everyone elses are going down but yours is going up. Go ahead. The time warner at t, opposed by government. The government is comprising a witness list. The witness list is comprised Major Telecom companies, disney, dish, cox. Here is one other name that may appear on the list at some point, not on now. Twentyfirst century fox. Why is this important . It is important because these companies, the government will rely on these companies as expert witnesses. Also these companies are involved in mergers. Disney just bought foxs assets. Here is where it gets interesting. If disney does become a witness, they are on the preliminary list now, if fox does agree to be on the list, it is not on it now, there will be a case made by at t that these companies are trying to curry favor with the government to get their deal approved which needs approval by going after this deal which is the at ttime warner deal. The governments attempt to block it. We should point out this is a developing story. It is going to be very controversial. We have a writeup on foxbusiness. Com, should be posted imminently. We should point out press officials from the companies had no comment. Twentyfirst century fox has no comment. The white house has no comment. Sources close to the Justice Department antitrust division are telling fox business they do have this list. It is comprised of Major Telecom and media Companies Involved in these mergers were reading every day. The list includes disney, dish, cox. Comcast on the list ironically. They did a similar deal to what at t wants to do, and it was approved. Government will put them on the stand because they believe they have data proves the opposite that such deals are not good. That is irony fully explained in my story. Neil this will be pretty controversial story once the government compiles the final list. We should point out that companies have been contacted. The government feels they have gotten favorable feedback from them. That doesnt mean ultimately they will all agree. This is not final. Well note the final list the government has in a few weeks. Industry experts. Academics and rifle companies. Where this rival companies. This gets interesting notion you have merger in the medial telecom industry. You have sales. This is a big story. We sold our assets to disney. That needs government approval. As the sale is going on, the Government Asks disney. Disney on the preliminary list. We are not. They are asking us to help them scuttle the at t time warner deal. It is pretty fascinating story the well see what happens. This is developing. Nothing set in stone here. But the government is reaching out to these major media players. Back to you, neil. Neil at very least sounds like the thing could be dragged out long. I dont think so. They have expedited trial date. The trial is set for march. I could wrong about that. They want it done sometime in april. The witness list will be out there. I hear free market guys say it is not compelling. There interest smart people on government side putting it together. At t says it is vertical merger, unloo like fox and disney which combines two similar entities, right . Disney is buying similar entertainment assets. This is vertical. It is two different assets. Government saying even if it is vertical, guess what, given changing media landscape, when you combine that much distribution and that much content, guess what, you can jam consumers. So i would read my story on foxbusiness. Com. It is up. Gives you all context. Neil weekend thing to do, you know. Thanks, buddy. Charlie gasparino. Meanwhile the president at the fbi. The same fbi that had a lot of questions over its credibility. The president didnt miss that. He actually talked a lot about that, after this. Traders theyre always looking for advantages. The smart ones look to fidelity to find them. 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Middleclass americans will see tax relief. And they will be better off with higher paychecks because now American Companies will be able to compete with anywhere in the world including home. Highlights or anything like that earlier in the day . Is there any way we can get information let us look at that. On priorities there. Well be briefing our members as well throughout the day, and so again, it will go live at 5 30. Thank you. Neil all right. Kevin brady man runs house ways and Means Committee. Instrumental in the house. Part of the Conference Committee thrashing differences between the senate and house package. One meant to accommodate, accommodated concerns that senator marco rubio had about cuttings downsize of Child Tax Credits down to 1100 when they got high as 2,000 in the senate. Back up to around 1400. That seemed calm senator rubio down. No guarranty he is a yes vote. Not looking so much as a sure thing of a no vote. Theyre keeping track of that they hope to have this all sorted out and settled early next week on the president s desk, sign, sealed and delivered. Kevin brady we joined that mid progress. Theyre making great progress. Keeping eye on that. Keeping eye on this. President trump talking to Academy Graduates saying he will help build the fbi to better fbi. Blake. Reporter couple different messages relates to the fbi today. He was at the National Academy speaking to graduates where he was highly complimentary of their profession. Did not take any swipes whatsoever at current leadership and past leadership. Before he boarded marine one to head to quantico, the president suggested that the fbi needs to be fixed. Its a shame what has happened with the fbi, but were going to rebuild the fbi. It will be bigger and better than ever. It is very sad, when you look at those documents and, how they have done that is really, really disgraceful. You have a lot of very angry people that are seeing it. Reporter moments later after that i asked the president if he feels the special counsel is biased . The president did not engage on that possibility though he did use it as a launching pad to tear into the fbis investigation into the Hillary Clinton email. Whatever you want to call it, you will have to make up your own determination but they found tremendous things on the other side. When you look at the Hillary Clinton investigation, it was, you know, ive been saying it for a long time, that was a rigged system, folks. That was a rigged system. Reporter what you have here, happening here, neil, white house trying to build up the argument that the rankandfile within the department of justice and within the fbi are sterling professionals. However they also very clearly take issue with some of the top level investigators and also clearly jim comey. Neil . Neil blake, thank you very, very much. To Washington Examiner commentary writer right now, emily. Jashinsky. Mueller will have a report. He might be done at least at interviewing stage. No way to know that for sure but what do you think . Were seeing this progress continues to be made. What we saw with paul manafort. What we saw with pop. We heard Jared Kushner might be next with charges being filed. Difficult to know where this is going. This is something that bothers the president and bothers the white house, probably understandable. That is something that where you see a lot of republicans questioning the scope of the investigation, questioning where it is going, trying to throw maybe a little bit of more, tougher questions likes we saw just this week when rosenstein testified before congress. Neil do you think there is any possibility mueller could be fired . Its a tough question. I dont think so. I think that would set off just unimaginable fury in a way distracting and damaging to the president. People understand that. They probably learned the lesson from james comey. I wouldnt expect he would be fired. I do think we can expect to see especially what happens this week with the text messages. Republicans in congress continuing to attack perceived bias of the special counsel investigation. Neil so that whatever decision comes out of that investigation they can go back and say especially, if it is unfriendly one to the administration about this pattern deceit and clear biases, right . Yes, that is exactly it. Public opinion is going to be key to whatever decision Robert Mueller makes. If the public already perceives this some sort of illegitimate investigation because of bias, thats a huge problem for him because people are not going to accept the results of the investigation. Now to be fair, so far we havent seen many complaints about republicans about charges filed against paul manafort, rick gates or michael flynn. But if something touches president or popular figure in his administration, the perceived bias in the public where there is lacking, obviously there is some credibility this fbi needs to rebuild with the public, that will be a serious problem. Neil yeah. All right, emily, thank you very much. Thanks, neil. Neil Speaker Paul Ryan going to Great Lengths talking about. His dismissals, we got the reporter who broke the story after this. How can i download an efile . Virtual tours . Zipfile . Really big files . In seconds, not minutes. Just like that. Like everything. The answer is simple. Ill do what ive always done. Dream more, dream faster, and above all. Now, ill dream gig. Now more businesses, in more places, can afford to dream gig. Comcast, building americas largest gigspeed network. Thank you very much, everybody. Appreciate it. [inaudible]. Neil you heard there paul ryan dismissing, had to do this a lot speculation he is leaving. Here is woman who started speculation going, two political reporter rachel bade broke the news. Very good to have you back with us. He is dismissing it. I distinguish between that and denying it. What are you hearing . Listen, we went into this story knowing full well that there was going to be some public pushback on this story. Speaker paul ryan cant be seen as a lame duck right now. He has a bunch of negotiating to do with democrats and coming weeks. That would undercut his hand if he committed to be retiring at end of next year. Not only that. If he wants to do entitlement reform like he is talking about right now, cant acknowledge that he is leaving that really undercuts his political capital. If you look at statements coming from their office. Look at comments coming from him, theyre very much not deny ing this. Speculation and saying the speak sister not going anywhere right now. Our story does not say that. It says he is going somewhere at end of the year. Neil would that mean he is still runs for reelection to his house seat . Yes. Neil next year. That is exactly. That is exactly right. From our understanding he is going to run. He will help the house try to keep the republican majority and try to get a bunch of stuff done this year. The question i have is, can he do that . Right now he will be doing deals with democrats in the coming weeks on spending, on immigration. What to do with the dreamer population. A lot of people think he is going to strike a bipartisan deal. That is going to potentially really anger his right flank in the house already itching and talking about potential motion to vacate the chair, what they used with john boehner to push him out. Neil i remember that. Is there any, question that he steps down from the speakership but stays a congressman . I very highly doubt that. Neil really. Sounds like paul ryan wants to go home and spend time with his family. Hard to sigh how you stay in congress and after being speaker. The big question here, if the conservatives move against him, does he just step aside earlier . I know there are a lot of people on the hill both very high up in leadership but also down to the rankandfile, who are wondering if they say were going to motion to vacate the chair . Does he retire in january . Well be watching closely for that. However i think he has a lot of stuff he wants to do next year and will stick around and then resign in perhaps december of next year. Neil you know i always thought he was a riddle lost in a conundrum here. He was mitt romneys running mate. He didnt expect and often spoke out early on about the emerging donald trump candidacy, some things, policies, words that questioned criticized. Like the good party soldier, you work with your president and party winced the criticism he was hearing from the white house over himself. Certainly mitch mcconnell, maybe he, is that eating at him . What do you think . It is really interesting. Just a year ago i was writing stories about how conservatives were trying to look for a smoke signal from the white house whether President Trump even wanted to work with speaker ryan. They had such a tense relationship. Neil right, right. On the trail. Paul ryan used to call him a joke in private. He talked about potentially withdrawing his endorsement at one point after the access Hollywood Video came out. From what we understand, and from what weve seen, the relationship has gone a lot smoother than a lot of people anticipated, such that after the story came out yesterday, we understand President Trump called speaker ryan, said are you leaving right now . Speaker ryan said, im not going anywhere right now. The white house basically said that the president would be quote, very unhappy if paul ryan were to retire sooner. So that is like a huge difference in their relationship. I actually wonder if it might protect the speaker for the next year from a mutiny on his far right. Neil that is very interesting. Rachel, would be remiss if i didnt get your take where the tax cut battle stands and where the spending battle stand. Both are kind of joined at hip of late. What do you think . I think they get tax reform done. I think rubio, marco rubio, has obviously come out said he is going to oppose the tax plan in recent days because he wants a bigger Child Tax Credit for your average joe families. And i think he is going to get something for that. I think that this is someone that leadership believes they can win over. I do think that well see a tax bill signed into law by christmas. Spending is totally different issue. Republicans are focused on tax reform right now, they are not talking about the other piece of this. Neil yet, that is so crucial pretty much all over the board. Neil think about it, rachel that is so crucial, many deals with wink and nod to get tax cut done were done on promise of addressing senators concerns. John mccain about military spending. Susan collins about doing something to protect people by losing the individual mandate, about those whose premiums might go up. You know . That last one you mentioned, i think could be particularly interesting next week. You are talking about the obamacare subsidies. Mitch mcconnell promised Susan Collins if you vote for this bill, we will enact obamacare subsidies into law by the end of the year. Now the house, republicans will go absolutely nuts over there if speaker put as bill like that on the floor. It will be really be bad. Mcconnell, ryan will have to have serious conversation about how do they do this. What you might see is sort of everybody, there is some sort of goodwill agreement privately that were going to address all these things in january. So, a lot of us thought december would be this aweful, horrible month of breaking news, deal this, here and there, but i think a lot of this is kicked into january, both on spending, both on perhaps csr payments, obamacare subsidies, definitely on dreamers it sounds like. I think january is now where were all going to be focusing. Neil amazing. We kicked the can for two weeks. Now coming on the vern of an agreement that will kick it for another couple weeks. That is when you get serious. Sounds like one of my diets. Rachel, great seeing you again. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me. Neil rachel bade, incredible reporter for politico. Those are nondenials. I dont know about you. But i parsed language here. Looking at socalled Net Neutrality repeal been portrayed in the media as the end of the internet as we know it. Really . Really . And i take trulicity once a week to activate my body to release it, like its supposed to. Trulicity is not insulin. 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Until these new rules were in place the internet was doing just fine. Each and every year after was building and expanding at rapid pace. Oddly enough started slowing down that building, slowing down expanded after this became the law. Why should i trifle with facts. Deirdre bolton getting into all the backlash and fallout and details. What do you have . Neil, remember yesterday i said we vote the was just the starting line. I should have said the vote was finishing touch on boxing event, long story short, fight is it just beginning. Nearly 20 states attorneys general lining up to sue the fcc, calling the agency move a violation of the law and serious threat to Free Exchange of ideas. So that is the map. You can see it there. Tech community, also going bonkers. Facebooks cheryl samburg, microsofts brad smith, execs from google, airbnb, the whole list speaking out in fact netflix tweeted this statement. I will read it directly. We are disappointed in the decision to gut Net Neutrality protections that ushered unprecedented ear of a creation, civic engangment. This is beginning after long legal battle. Netflix stand with innovators large and small to oppose this misguided fcc order. Other companies are taking stand against the vote on principle because as Service Provider such as verizon or comcast or at t charges netflix more money because netflix using more internet capacity when we all bing watch our shows, it doesnt matter. Netflix has the money and can pay. The reason big Tech Fighting fcc decision because it says vote kills innovation. Tech Companies Say if there is future competitor to google, amazon, facebook, netflix, trying to build it sell up right now, a Fledgling Company would not be able to get off the ground, would not be able to afford the fees vote would permit, verizon, comcast, at t the power to demand. Now the fcc chairman, ajit pai he says Silicon Valley are a bunch of hypocrites. Here sort part of his argument. Companies like facebook and amazon, netflix, google became global giants precisely because the government wasnt involved. Part of reason why this so much hysteria is simply misplaced. Well see going forward, getting this regulatory system rights means better, faster cheaper interaccess for all americans across the country. So the fcc chairman, a known libertarian, less regulation for him equals better. Probably, neil at the end of the day, long story short if the vote stands well pay for tiered Internet Service a lot like people used to pay for tieredded cable. Back to you. Neil deirdre, thank you very, very much. In middle of all of this media hype, handwringing. Neil editor, free marketeer Jonathan Hoenig says repeal will help not hurt. Good to see you, my friend. What did you think of all the dustup on this . This is real positive step. Internet is not a free right. It was not a public utility. It was created by private companies as fcc commissioner alluded to. Companies that spent billions of dollars not only creating it but now maintaining it. It is theirs to control and price. What you will see is more innovation, tiered options as alluded to, makes sense, neil. Why should netflix which uses 33 of all internet traffic pay the same as individual who only uses a tiny bit . This is step forward, not only for Property Rights but see more innovation for consumer, ultimately lower prices as well. Neil you heard the argument doing this now, means netflix role as dominant player is assured. It cries crocodile tears is feels for smaller up start players it can well afford whatever excess fees it might pay as result, what you do you think of this. Fa if we dont have government control monopolists take advantage. Think of Something Like telephones. It is in at ts interest to call tmobile subscribers or verizon sub desires. It is in countrys interest to have happy customers. You wont see type, not surprised netflix is for this type of regulation. It prevents competition, neil. If fcc go whole hog, they should not just get rid of Net Neutrality, get rid of regulation on telecom, cell, cable. You will see real competition and lower prices across the board. Neil big worry is, isnt so much what is going on now, but i think addressing your point, jonathan what could happen down the road, if you treat the internet like you do your utility that provide your gas or electric, first of all theyre very, very different. Secondly you do by almost definition take out a lot of innovation, zeal to expand and operate. Weve seen in the last two years these Big Companies cutting down and cutting back. Some cases dramatically on their internet infrastructure. Yeah. Neil, the real golden age of internet came before so many of these regulations, that were put up not just during the obama years but even some during the bush years as well. Lets get back to the sphere of innovation. What the internet look likes five or 10 years ago, it will look completely different especially with mergers in the entertainment space and experience for consumer, neil, has gotten better, more choice, more options, lower choice. Getting rid of regulation will continue that trend. Neil when it really got big and explosive in the late 1990s to 2015 when they slapped these rules on, internet was doing pretty well, you know . Yep. I mean, as you said, so much for the innovation occurred before the rules. Neil, this is real step forward because so often once we see regulation instituted, it is just impossible to get them removed. What you will see, even something benign when bill clinton deregulate ad lot of investment banks neil in the mid 1990s, you saw tremendous innovation, more recently with cannabis, that industry being regulated. Neil very good point. Same thing here with telecommunications and internet as well. Neil thank you very much, my friend. Jonathan hoenig. Merry christmas. Neil to you as well. Some of you might have heard new star wars movie is out. You believe this, a lot of lightsaber action. That i didnt see coming. It will light the fire that that neil all right. This is a very big weaken for christmas shopping, travel, airlines. Are prepping for at least 51 million passengers. That goes through january. Today a Free Shipping day for some, not all retailers. Shoppers look at spending more than they have since 2011, you would like to probably get an idea what are they spending all the extra dough on . Jeff flock in chicago with some of those shoppers. Hey, jeff. Reporter neil, they say it is the most wonderful time of the year. Look at these people all adorned in santa claus costume. This is the Marshall Fields, legendary windows at Marshall Fields. Marshall fields is now macys. Tremendous news. Retail sales up yesterday. About 6 . Department stores like macys up, big time, also. And this is Free Shipping day for anybody who is not coming to the store but wants to shop at home. Take a look, it is 965 different retailers today alone offering Free Shipping. Most of them with no minimum. Actually amazon, walmart, are two big ones have a minimum. Most of the stores on the list dont have a minimum. Its, you know, its a big day for shipping. Why is this going to be such a big Holiday Season . Well, i think it is bus unemployment, number one. Take a look. This time in 2009, unemployment was almost 10 . Were now down, half a percentage point in the last year as well to 4. 1 . The dow, obviously has had a big run. People have money in their pockets. And Department Stores like this, look at, i have to show you the legendary clock here at Marshall Fields now macys. Macys in the last month alone up 25 , the stock. Obviously things are going well. The other big thing at holidays, travel. We think that travel is going to be alltime high. It has been for every other major holiday. Despite the fact gas prices up about 20 cents i think compared to this time last year. So on the rise but, still, people apparently have money. I leave you, neil, with a look at one of these legendary windows. Looks to be, what do you call that . A, i dont know what the heck . Im trying to say, pinball, pinball. You get old these words go right out of your head. That is the ferris wheel in chicago and the great Christmas Tree at Marshall Fields, now macys. Oh, to be a kid again. Neil. Neil huh . What is that you say . Jeff, thank you very, very much. Little old joke there. There could be competition for shoppers though. Like movies, like this one. Latest star wars flick, bringing in 45 million in the first debut night. Thing looks stupid to me. Apparently a lot of people who like the whole star wars franchise. I see a lot of light sabres that has not changed since 1970s since jimmy carter was president. Fox news contributor, kevin mccarthy. Much hipper. What do you think of it . I seen the film. Lukewarm on the film to be honest. Ive been a star wars fans. I loved the force awakens opened up two years ago, brought in 2 billion at box office. This particular version of the franchise, this is number eight now. I liked this film but i did not love it. I have a lot of reasons for that specifically the tone. Unnecessary comedic quality of some of the scenes in the film. Its a little too long, a little too slow in the beginning. On the Positive Side though, the action scenes are absolutely incredible. Mixture of effects are amazing. Performances are fantastic. I love how they honored Carrie Fisher as well. Its a good Star Wars Film, but not overall a film i loved in the star wars franchise. Neil theyre clearing the decks for this. Any other moves attempting preview, that isnt happening. Disney extracting big demand. You have to keep it there in the theater for a while, right . Numbers are insane. 45 million is what the movie did last night, thursday night previews. Compared to 57 million two years ago with the force awakens. I will say this. I dont think anybody expected this movie have a big opening as the force awakens, there was so much build up. 425 million is around the box office for the last jedi. Big number definitely. Two years ago the force awakens made 500 million in worldwide opening. That is interesting perspective. It will make a ton of money. Merchandising will be huge. I dont think the film will ultimately reach 2 billiondollar mark that the force awakens met. Neil looks like a mess. Thank you, my friend. Great job. Thank you for letting me wear a r2d2 suit. Neil i didnt want to comment. Disaster, is it . More next. Im confident at the end of the day that the senate will approve this Conference Committee report because no one should be defending the status quo in this horrible tax code, americans have had to live with for too long. Neil tax cuts happen, will they . [laughter] neil a lot of angry people do not like my views on star wars. I havent begun, folks. Stocks at record high. The star wars controversy exists only in my head not with standing, tax bill change promise apparently for marco rubio, maybe enough to seal the deal. We havent gotten an automatic yes from him. What was done to sort of cater to him and does he like it . Well, we are told that what they did was boosted the Child Tax Credit from a thousand dollars to 2,000. Officially, we havent heard from rubios office saying im in but kevin brady, the chairman of the ways and Means Committee had all the signees, everyone expects to move through the Senate Without any problems. One to have biggest issues that theyre looking at, though, whether or not everyone they need to be in the Senate Next Week will, in fact, be there. They are looking at john mccain, they are looking at chhocre, in that the house house of representatives should go back and come back to house of representatives for a final vote, but this bill is done. Its closed. They closed the text last night. They cant amend it on the floor, they cant change it or open conference report. Thats the state of play right now. Kevin brady, the chair of ways and Means Committee, they will file this on the house floor at 5 30, the house comes into session at proforma session. Could be later to make sure they dotted all the is and crossed all the ts, people are able to look at the text and see whats in the final bill. Neil but they cant change it at that point . No, they cant. Neil how it was paid for to accommodate marco rubio and you dont like those allow answers or allowances to satisfy him. If youre kevin brady of the ways and Means Committee chair, speaker ryan and mcconnell, make sure that you have everybody on board that you have something that you believe can be passed. I talked about this a couple times before. An energy bill back in early 2000s, senate pass the bill, they merged them together in conference report and they had trouble passing the final conference report. You cant reopen a conference. You can go back and put the genie back in the bottle. They ultimately didnt have to do with the energy bill. The bill is edged in stone. Neil wow. Sounds like a star wars movie. Do you Like Star Wars movie or no . Absolutely. Neil really . I havent had a chance to go yet. In particularly i like rogue 1. Neil okay. Im done with you. This place is like the bar scene in star wars. Neil thats the kind of guy you are, thank you chad, thank you very much. Trump hispanic advisory steve cortez and finally dagen mcdowell. Dagen, on star wars most importantly, are you a fan, is it indicative . Im a star wars fan. I would much rather have a drink with any of those aliens in the bar than marco rubio at this point. Neil whoa, oh, no you didnt. Dagen yes, i did. Neil on the tax cut, it does look like they are trying to get this whole settled and done, i am wondering, though, whatever allowances were made to get marco rubio to be a yes, vote, some one somewhere is going to be ticked off or no . Well, perhaps. Look, i dont like us that he took us to the praecipes. I do like that he was advocating for child credit. Having children is very expensive. I have four of them. Thiel neil Child Tax Credit is going to do that . Its part of the equation, sure. Expensive to have children. Dagen can i neil if youre debating of age and having kids, honey, i dont know in the last great recession. Dagen neil, i have to stop you both. This is not about the Child Tax Credit. We knew that it was going to be doubled to 2,000. This is about making more of it refundable to individuals, going from 1,100 refundable to 1,400. Lets be clear about something. Thats welfare. Its social engineering through the tax code and quite frankly i think steve you should be ashamed for yourself that you are advocating for that. This is for people dagen, hold on. If you get a personal exemption, why wouldnt you get a personal exemption for dependents as well. It just makes sense, its not welfare. By the way its not welfare to take care of children. Its not welfare for individuals who are investing in children and education. Neil lee if you can pipe down here a second. Where do you think this is going, dagen, thats an interesting point. Fact of the matter is that this child credit whether youre afford or against it its off of payroll taxes, if you really want to address tax burden, you might have gone to payroll tax but i do see the ideas behind it. What im wondering about is whether the votes are there to get this wrapped up as the president hopes and keeps saying before christmas because you carried this into january with, you know, one less republican senator, you got some diceyness ahead. Well, first of all, i love dagen, but i dont consider this welfare because these are people who are working and weve had all of the Income Growth over the past decade gone to the top 1 of the country and a lot of that is due to atrocious trade deals have made. You can look at this as trade deals which have collapsed wages at the bottom in addition to costing jobs. Im all for the refundability. Adding a couple of 300 to that, im sorry, its not a big deal. I wish they had not lowered the top income tax rate, given how well im a free market guy, i love rich people that invest and and help make the economy strong. Neil you could lower rates to everybody without adding guilt but dagen, they did not do that. Dagen no, they didnt do it. Neil, i will point out that Richard Ruben is the tax reporter for wall street journal who has done an amazing job on this. Hes reporting that they basically paid for this by applying it to children under the age of 17 instead of under the age of 18. That was the change that they came up with this. Im just talking about social engineering through the tax code where its haves and have nots, i cannot fathom how you call this tax reform when they keep incentives. Its Like Washington is telling us how to behave, you should have children, you should buy 750,000dollar house, listen, people in the northeast are taking it on the chin with the state and local Tax Deduction going away. Thats fine, but i want some of the other handouts to go away and they are not, in fact, marco rubio pressed for an increase in this refundable Child Tax Credit and dog on if he department get it and i dont think he can call himself a republican. Neil the argument for this and hes prowork. Thats very republican. Neil steve, do you think in the end that the argument for this, all the criticism, a lot of individuals polled on this dont like this, the corporate rates are permanent, ours are not. Youve heard that and we heard this typically in other prior tax cuts that they go out the gate not very popular, Ronald Reagan was less popular than these going out the gate, do you expect that this tax cut once its passed, if its passed, its going to enjoy popularity later that hits it . Yes, absolutely. Im glad you mentioned the reaganageology, they werent popular at outset. They were popular once the fruitions in america. Two things neil he didnt rock it in the midterm elections because of delay in that impact. I mean, republicans lost a couple dozen seats. Right. Im not so sure. The economy is accelerating economy mainly based on what President Trump is doing with regulatory relief and confidence that taxes and growth are going to come. Neil do you agree with that, lee, that they can obviously you know, hes quite right about that, what steve says about the market running up in anticipation of this, maybe reflected in a lot of the shopping numbers and all, do you see that continuing . Well, it looks like it. Im no better as an economic prognosticator than economists that get paid a lot of money and get it wrong every time. President trumps dramatic rollback in regulations, with the tax reform it element almost, i like helping passthrough business but they have done a terrible job of telling a story about tax reform, bad story because the middleincome tax cuts expire which is ridiculous and what they ought to do pass this thing and conference cant be reopen as chad said, if i were President Trump, i would impose 10 trade tariff on goods, import in the country that would yield over 2 trillion over the next decade and congress immediately pas a change to this tax bill that ends at sunset so all middleclass tax cuts neil thats not happening. Its not going to happen. We do see and i understand your point but they will never let the cuts expire, its easier said than done. They just did this for budgetary purposes right now to make this fit. So i cant imagine when we get to that point, five years from now when the first wave of them expire. Dagen they will end up expiring they were taken away. Neil after more than ten years. Dagen theyll take away any benefit thats socalled rich people got and thats my issue with marco rubio is it plays into the class warfare language of the left. They lowered top rate to 37 . Dagen higher earners in blue states are getting it to them. I agree with you. Dagen i want it and i want it now. If you dont give it to me, i will not vote for your bill. Thats what we have. Neil a character like that in the latest star wars movie. Very unusual for george lucas. They are punishing the republicans who didnt vote for hightaxed policies, they are punishing them by lowering the salt deductions so i agree with dagen on that, what they should have done cap all deductions at 30,000 and let individuals determine neil would have, should have, could have. It is what it is. Guys, thank you all very, very much. I thought it was a good impression, obviously dagen doesnt agree. Why i hate it so much, why i fear it is ruining society whcold sore. Et you . Grab lunch . Cold sore. When a cold sore takes over, campho pheniques topical anesthetic plus antimicrobial action soothes pain fast. Whats for dinner . Meat loaf. Camphophenique on, cold sore pain gone. Or a little internet machine . It makes you wonder shouldnt we get our phones and internet from the same company . Thats why Xfinity Mobile comes with your internet. You get up to 5 lines of talk and text at no extra cost. So all you pay for is data. See how much you can save. Choose by the gig or unlimited. Xfinity mobile. A new kind of network designed to save you money. Call, visit, or go to xfinitymobile. Com. There is absolutely no collusion. I didnt make a phone call to russia. I had nothing to do with russia. Everybody knows this. That was a democrat hoax, excuse for losing the election and it should have never been this way, they spent all these millions of dollars. I was at one point a lone voice in the wilderness calling mueller to be fired based on conflict of interests, evidence to me several months ago and now a chorus of republicans that seems to see more evidence of this bias. Neil no doubt from congressman that there are more republicans right now and a couple of democrats who dont go on the record on the subject that at least some of muellers people investigating donald trump had a distinct bias against them. One of them was let go but how many others might still be there, attorney and former Missouri State senator, senator, if i could begin with you, its very clear that the president believes that hes getting treated unfairly, do you . Absolutely, i think the whole thing was based on a false premise from the getgo. Its ridiculous. This needs to end. Neil okay. Paul, take it from your perspective here, you can argue that fired this guy, moving on with the team that might or might not like the president , we hear from judge napolitano that they dont get that stuff get in the way, but how can it not . Well, it hasnt for the entire history of the fbi. Fbi agents are people too. This agent in particular, he didnt like anybody. We are now reading neil thats a really good point. He thought Bernie Sanders was a moron. He hated Chelsea Clinton and Hillary Clinton. Neil i do get your jest. Its all over the top, but, you know, hes a man who is bantering with the woman who he is having an affair, the thing that he should be most critiqued for, a senior fbi agent who is having an an affair, that would be my reason for firing the man. Whether or not that he has bad judgment, that doesnt have anything to do with investigation being done by professionals who have done it and brought forth indictments and convictions guilty pleas that implicate the president in some form actually the president s campaign, let me be accurate, the president s campaign in coordinated activity with the russian government. Neil the interviews stopped and they do stop around those officials who might lead to other officials, i guess, but is your concern, john, that they are doing with distinct bias that might be use as counter argument whatever judgment is needed by bob mueller later on, might be soon or not soon, theyll go back to that, well, you have a pattern of going far field here . Well, think about what the core of this issue is called justice. Its not gotyou, we shouldnt be looking to find anything, any charge, any accusation, any process crime you misled we dont want top officials in our government to be taken out because they said one thing to one fbi that wasnt exactly the same thing neil all investigations are on track, who would have imagined that ken stars investigation would morphed into an intern relationship, right . A lot of us cheering for ken, getting nailed for something neil but my point on that, im not picking sides, that had nothing to do with the original intent. You have to accept wherever an investigation might wander, right . Yes and no. Neil well, you were happy with the way that one wandered into an intern and and i was probably wrong. Neil okay. I was probably wrong. Neil paul, where do you think this goes on . This has to do with business transactions that im not aware of, but they do go often times far field, what is your sense of this one, where its going, if we were right in interviewing is done, what does that generally mean . If we are right that its done and not just pause, then, i think that a lot of the wandering of field pieces is is just fantasy. It seems to have been a pretty tightly focused investigation, the papadopoulos plea, the flynn plea both tied to efforts to obstruct that investigation, the investigation of contacts with russia. We havent gotten to the bottom of that yet, i have no sense of whether or not when we find the bottom of it, we will find actual collusion or not but thats the thats the charter and seems to me that they are focusing on it pretty quickly. I mean, to put it your comparison to the stern investigation that i served on, useful one, the stern investigation ran for four years, the Mueller Investigation is now is still less than a year old and they are kind of reaching point where they are starting to to issue judgments and show the evidence publicly. Neil near the end where we are, immersed in the beginning of this . Well, i think we are not at the beginning, i dont care we are near the end, for one thing, the investigation is not going to end until the manafort case is revolved and his testimony is taken. And, you know, whitecollar criminal trials like that, big ones with 73 billion online, thats going to not come to trial at six months at a minimum. We are not going to see the end of this tomorrow. Neil all right, but, john, your point is that you do not think given the tone more difficult for people to get a sense on substantive investigation is going more than the tone and some of the dismissiveness thats been reported, albeit a couple of people that there might be a builtin bias against the president , thats your concern . My concern is not only that theres a builtin bias, they want to get this guy for something. I mean, the fbi is part of the resist movement. Its terrible. The credibility is shot so badly. We need a president focused on doing his job, we need the people around him focused on doing his job. How many hours a day are each one of these people that are leading our country stopping their their actual work and meeting with lawyers to plan their defense of what might come next. This mueller thing, if we had if we had one smoking gun, if we had an election, if we had a state that was swung because russian operatives were were manipulating voters in that one state, then we might have a crime thats worth this kind of effort and this kind of distraction from the presidency but we dont. Neil paul, the only thing that we have to go on who did what for the election, but who did what to to obstruct or possibly, possibly toward an investigation of that, right . Thats right. That means that theres something to floor. I have to smile when i listen to the senator that was the exact same statement that was made by every democrat that was opposing the clinton investigations, its distracting, we need a president thats focused, we dont you know, the situation emphasis here is unfortunate, we should all want the truth to come out and we should all respect the process that that brings us the truth, involves criminals investigation and the chip wills fall where they may and part of where they will fall is people trying to obstruct the investigation. They will get indicted for that as much as anything else. Neil or those who tilted it. We will see. Guys, thank you very much. In the meantime, we are getting word here from the wall street journal that, you know, the president wants to reformulate how they take on iran and treat iran. Well, it could empower a very big deal that weve seen a big, very big deal involving boeing and the sales of planes to that country. Its a little too early to tell whether thats going to dramatically affect the stocks, we dont see it certainly at boeing. When the president cracks down, the stocks could get cracked. A little more after this. i used to have more hair. I used to have more color. And. I used to have cancer. I beat it. I did. Not alone. I used to have no idea what the American Cancer Society did. Research . Yeah. But also free rides to chemo and free lodging near hospitals. I used to maybe give a little. Then i got so much back. I used to have cancer. Please give at cancer. Org. Welcome back to cavuto coasttocoast, im Nicole Petallides on the floor of the new york stock exchange. Heavy volume, heavy trading, and a record day again on wall street. The dow and the s p 500 have broken out to new intraday highs, likely where they would be, yet another record close. The Dow Jones Industrial average up 140 points. The s p up 22. Taking a look this week, you can see both nasdaq and the dow up more than 1 as the s p 500 up nearly 1 on the week. Some of the best performers are names that are hitting alltime highs. Take a look at these names, that is mcdonalds, united technologies, boeing, all with up arrows, alltime highs, a lot of optimism on wall street as it looks likely the tax overhaul is under way. The child credit under way to satisf syators rubio and lee, and looks like well have fou weeks of gns for the dow and the s p straight. Neil . Neil nile, thank you vy, very much. To the progress were making on tax cuts, setting sights on 2018 and maybe the next battle royale, infrastructure, and where they could get a lot of bipartisan support. Republicans and democrats keen on that. Were told a trillion dollars over ten years. Lets get the read on former undersecretary for transportation ray lahood. Thank you, neil, good to be with you. Neil let me get your sense on the infrastructure thing, you can make the argument they should have started with it, it would have promised some bipartisan support. That was then, this is now. Were told infrastructure will be the next thing teed up now. What do you think . I think it probably will be particularly if the tax cuts passed. They spent way too much time trying to get away with obamacare. I agree with you. Were looking for a new year and with the new year theres optimism. The infrastructure bill needs to be bipartisan because infrastructure is bipartisan, it needs to be big, it needs to be bold and needs to be paid for. And if it is, a lot of americans are going to go to work and america gets back to being number one in infrastructure but takes time to do it. Neil it is going to take money, to your point, secretary. One of the issues i heard bandied about when you were in office and when president obama was in office the idea of making it a private partnership. It was very close or akin to a sallie mae deal on the educational front and the lending front in real estate where it would be a partnership between the government and private enterprise. Im not quite sure thats the thinking now, but what do you make of that approach to this . Yeah, neil, look, i think thats a good idea, and i think the trump people are thinking along those lines. There is a lot of money thats ready to be invested. A lot of infrastructure opportunities, but it will take more than that, neil, it takes increase in the gas tax which hasnt been raised since 1993. And if we do that, we get back to a big pot of money, the infrastructure needs a big pot of money, publicprivate partnerships will help. Tolling helps. Although people dont like tolling. The Infrastructure Bank will help, but in order to really send a message, i think ten cent a gallon increase in the gas tax while gas prices are low. 25 states, neil, in the last three years have raised their own gas tax, theyre not waiting for washington to do it, and nobodys been thrown out of office as a result of it. And some very conservative states like wyoming all republican. Utah, all republican, iowa, all republican. Neil in new jersey, with governor christie. You are right about that. I always worry and raised it last time when you were here, thats the way to go, thats fine. How do you police that the moneys are going where theyre supposed to be going . You slap a tax on a gallon of gas, half the states have done it at the local level. How do you make sure its going to that intended focus . You know, neil, that is the problem. The American People are worried if they raise the gas tax, theyll spend some of it on deficit reduction and some of it on maybe salaries for Law Enforcement or Something Like that. Neil its happened in my state of new jersey. I know it, and happened in other states and people become very disillusioned. Politicians need to bite the bullet, raise the gas tax, and then the people in charge like at d. O. T. And in the administration, need to spend the money on infrastructure so people see results and people go to work. There just has to be that commitment to do it. Maybe you put it in a trance portationinfrastructure lockbox where it says this money cannot be spent for anything other than transportation or infrastructure. That sends the message its used for what it was intended for. Neil others have mentioned the idea of the modernday equivalent of the war bonds. There are a lot of possibilities out there. You raised just a few. Ray lahood, thank you very much. Thank you, neil, merry christmas. Neil to you as well. The former secretary of transportation under barack obama. Is the new Star Wars Film getting way too much hype . I say its got to stop. I say they need to just clear the path so other promising filmmakers can come forward and see the sabre thing, because that technology itself featured prominently in the movie i havent seen but going on reliable authorities who tell meet promos indicate as much. Its time to update this. But theyre not. So goodbye. After this. This is not going to go the way you think. [vo] when it comes to investing, looking from a fresh perspective can make all the difference. It can provide what we call an unlock a realization that often reveals a better path forward. At wells fargo, its our expertise in finding this kind of insight that has lead us to become one of the largest investment and Wealth Management firms in the country. Discover how we can help find your unlock. Neil all right, id have to ask my colleagues here, the reason for stocks moving up are indications that marco rubio has been satisfied here, that changes have been made in the tax measure, in that conference report, that will come out later on today. About four hours from now. Accommodation that will switch him from what seemed like a no vote to a yes vote. Stocks are racing on the idea the tax bill is happening. Not everyone so happy when it comes to boomers, always bitter, always angry, always searching for the milk of magnesia. That would include charlie gasparino, steve leeb, charlie grady. Charlie want to end with you, you are the numbers svengali here. Everyone keeps saying the numbers are racing ahead, if the tax cut goes through . Yeah, seeing record highs today for the dow, the s p, the nasdaq, you know broad Market Indices hitting highs. Neil that continues after the tax cuts assuming they do get done. What you see with the tax cuts finally getting done, this happens the day the editorial came out talking about dow 24,000 and the trump effect and how that was a great opportunity when it fell, what this indicates is the next time we get a dip and certainly will be done, it may be a buying opportunity because of the tax cut reform and all that at the back of the market pushing it. Neil what do you guys think . I well, couple of things, one, i dont think trump was elected to make the market go higher. I think thats great and im very, very happy that its happening, but he was elected because you had a lot of disaffected people in this country. And they are not really receiving any of these benefits. Now there is a hope, there is a hope, neil, in the tax bill, theres a hope by cutting the Corporate Tax rate to 21 , is that the latest number, 24, 25, right around there. Maybe well get the kinds of Capital Expenditures in Infrastructure Spending that trump ran on. He wasnt allowed to get any of that in, but if we do get that, i think we could have a very happy country. Im not betting on that. Neil what do you think . I think steves right. Im for a lower Corporate Tax rate. If youre at 35 and the rest of the world is at 25, you got a problem, and thats kind of where we are right now. Now, lets be real clear, this is not a panacea for all our ills. If you cut it to 20, 21 , i dont think factories are going to start cropping up in upstate new york and the depressed areas across the country. Not initially, we were going to get massive stock buybacks which is why the market is going up. Some of it is good for the economy but doesnt directly affect the base trump voter. Heres where i think the problem gets into that trump could face and republicans. Okay, so theres a tax increase embedded in here, too. There are average people that live in hightax states, if you make 200 grand in new york, it doesnt sound like average for the rest of the country, its average here. Its below average. Especially in manhattan. Long island or families in california, those people are going to get hosed on this. Theyre going to get a huge tax increase. And the people on the low end that are getting the tax cut, i keep getting them on my facebook page, twitter page, 20 a week is big for me. It is. But its not enough no, it isnt. Neil but its obviously to i think when grady started out on this that the idea its obviously proppelling the markets, takes a while for a tax cut to be filled. Ronald reagans was far less popular coming out the gate than this one is, but you got to see the return on that immediately, right . This tax plan seems to benefit Companies Much more than individuals. This is what were seeing. People who dont pay taxes, it benefits a lot. They pay payroll taxes and corporations, its an odd plan in the sense that, you know neil do people feel grateful if it comes next november . Reagan lowered it for everybody. Neil keep in mind, he lost a lot of seats in the midterms, in the first wave. Do you think this will have an impact . I think it could have a big impact, but ironically neil you have your doubts . Ironically, neil, the reason it may have a big impact is because how poorly a lot of this country is doing. Some of the most striking statistics that ive seen recently have been comparisons, and i did this myself, and i may be wrong, but i compared how people were doing in lets say the year 2000 with how theyre doing today. I dont care what other numbers tell me about median income. Neil enough to make a dramatic difference. Right. People today are eating less protein than they did in 2,000. Neil tell me where youre anything. What . Neil please tell me where youre going. People are so depressed that the point, they cant afford to buy cars. The millennials eat a lot of oo dong. Neil i want you to stop and think about star wars. Another one is out. And when we were kids, we were all roughly the same age, the first one came out when jimmy carter was president. Nothing has changed. Its the same show but a little more as you recall, i thought you were making an analogy. Neil please lets go back to taxes. You are okay with this . The star wars are redundant but you are okay with it . Yeah, im okay if you Like Star Wars, totally okay. Neil same thing . Its an excellent franchise. Neil you dont think its getting long in the tooth . No, they do freshen it and keep it alive. Wait a second, wait a second. Neil wait a minute. You have a hidden bias and youre not disclosing it. Neil i just disclosed it youre a trekkie, trekkies hate star wars. Neil a human being, you guys seen the saber thing . Its not a dance. Youre a trekkie, they want to hurt star wars people. Neil trust me, i have no agenda. Can we bring james bond into the argument. Thats a franchise thats been around as long as i have, which is forever. Youre a peppermint spiced trekkie. Neil youre okay with it . Great entertainment, i plan on bringing the kids around christmastime. Neil really . It is great entertainment. I dont like the fact that youre not disclosing the relevant parts of this that should be disclosed about it. Neil not on corporate deals, mind you. As im watching my 12yearold daughter not cringe. Neil there is that. Can they still do star wars . Neil highlights here, guys, the sabers. I understand that. Will you just try to stick to this [laughter]. Neil they are great guys, all my friends, and weve all lost our minds. Well have more after this. Cannot live without it. So if you cant live without it. Why arent you using this guy . It makes your wifi awesomely fast. No. Still nope. Now were talking it gets you wifi here, here, and here. It even lets you take a time out. No no yes yes, indeed. Amazing speed, coverage and control. All with an xfi gateway. Find your awesome, and change the way you wifi. Those on the other side have literally nothing to peddle other than hysteria and fear for the light touch approach weve had for the internets existence. I hope the people focus on the facts, again, given whats transpired over the last several week, not surprised at all. Neil that is fcc chairman ajit pai to end the Net Neutrality. The impact really is drastic says some of these media reports claim. Former fcc commissioner says consumers are not at risk or the internet itself being destroyed as some of the papers seem to indicate especially in cover stories like the one you just saw on the daily news. Robert, i do remember the internet alive and thriving up to 2015 when Net Neutrality came into being, and i remember since it coming into being, all the big boys start cutting back on irastructurend the like. Building and ireasing every ere, sin then its been going down, why is that . Thanks for having me back on the show. Neil good to have you. The title 2, the Communications Act called title 2 brings economic regulation primarily, and every independent wall street analyst ive walked to, marcy at wells fargo, Craig Moffett and many others and have no dog in the fight, theyre just analyzing, that damocles of economic regulation over broadband providers did curtail investment, if you look at wireless broadband, the Fastest Growing segment of the broadband market, just that in the past two years since that order, capex declined 17 almost 18 . That is significant as we try to jump to the next generation of 5g wireless technology. Neil this is the reason . Thats the argument. This is the reason. But i always think the consumer argument has been, well, now the government cant shield us from these guys trying to gouge us, you say what . Thats a big myth, it makes for great click bait. You have three strong federal statutes, one on the beat, the federal Commission Act puts the federal trade commission on the beat. Neil the ftc would rule this activity, if you try it, youre in big trouble. The federal Communications Commission now the ftc is back on the beat. Plus the d. O. T. With the clayton act and the sherman act. The parade of horribles, every component is illegal, the blocking, the throttling, all of that would be illegal under a variety of statutes that we could cite if you want me to. Neil the proponent of doing things said you have to go through hoops to prove that case, lets say you are trying to stream a service that isnt available because of a company you use for Internet Service doesnt own it. However business relationship with it, and the mysteriousness of it is getting slowed if its coming to you at all. How do you act on that if you see it . Right, and thats one of the common arguments. Neil right. Which is it didnt happen, no systemic market failure when title 2 is imposed, as you pointed out in the lead. What was the Legal Framework that worked . And some say its expensive for entrepreneur startup to bring a lawsuit. They dont have to. The chair said it has 640 lawyers and 70 dhp economists and they look for things like this in very complex corners of our economy. Thats number one. Number two, the d. O. J. Does the same as were seeing in a big lawsuit right now thats kind of related to this in a way. So there are a lot of cops on the beat and thats why it worked so well. The clintongore commission that we were defending, which is light touch regulatory framework, and we defended it because it worked. Gave us the wonderful internet echo sphere that we enjoy today. And title 2 was a stark departure from the unanimous neil what happens now . The death nell stories, the end of the internet as we know it. I know theres a lot of hyperbole in the press, what do you think happens now . I think youre going to see a great explosion of entrepreneurial brilliance, we need to spend about 300 billion over the next decade on the next generation of wireless, which will be faster than cable speeds are. Cable is very concerned. But youre going to see that unleashed in a more robust full throated way rather than a tentative way. That means mobile future faster. Youre going to see the hd movies downloaded to your mobile devices more quickly. More choices. The average American Consumer or actually 9 out of 10 American Consumers have a choice of four mobile broadband providers and theres a licensing spectrum as well which helps to remain a competitive threat against the big carriers, so prices are falling, innovation is increasing, content is increasing. Neil see what happens. Produce more content. Its going to be exciting, its going to be good. Neil robert mcdowell, former fcc commissioner. Just another view, markets still ahead here on indications that marco rubio will indeed be a yes, for senators flake and corker still undecided. Its getting really tight. More after this. Neil so much we dont know but Ashley Webster knowing everything about it. He is in for trish. Ashley thank you, neil. Finalized version of republican tax bill a few hours from now. Lawmakers making last minute changes, specifically the Child Tax Credit, following senator marco rubios to vote no on the bill if the credit is not expanded. It is unclear if this is enough to secure a yes vote from rubio. Well talk about that. Uncertainty over tax reform having little impact among the markets. We have a nice rally. Dow up 156 points, 24,664. Remarkable. Good afternoon, everybody. Im