Titanic because the corporate rate would slide from 35 to 20 whose right to Charles Payne . Charlie gas and weve got kennedy here along with ben stein and adam leshinsky. Charles payne . Clayton i dont know why he made it either or proposition. Competition drives cost and goods like that but every Company Struggles and looks for the lowest tax domicile. Even amazon is looking for someone to give them 10 billion in tax breaks, lower taxes dont mean anything to Corporate America or the bottom line and to the economy. Neil and obviously companies rich with this stuff. I mean, apple comes to mind. They certainly seek out low taxes. Listen i like mark cuban, nice guy. Its funny that he earned his billions or billion or whatever hes worth 2 billion and now he wants to deprive other people of potentially earning a billion by listen, the bottom line is this. Innovation does occur no matter what the tax code is like generally, as long as we have a generally free market but youve got to look at it this way. If you do give people an incentive to save and invest with lower taxes generally innovation grows from that and i think thats what hes missing here and by the way a great debate would be tim cook versus mr. Cuban because tim cook is liberal on most issues would argue with his analysis of that. Neil kennedy . Kennedy well why not a Good Environment creates freer markets why not have a great market create even freer markets because not only does that benefit corporations it benefits workers and wages go up and theres also more room to invest in innovation and hire more people, so lowering this Corporate Tax rate does more than just cushion what we think of as these corporate fat cats that people like Hillary Clinton have always played to. You know, smaller corporations are still lumped into that and those are the ones who will hire more people and pay them more money and then the money theyve got left in their pocket with all due respect this tax bill, listen, he would have been on firmer ground if he said this tax bill didnt give enough benefits to the Small Businesses which it doesnt. He would have been on much firmer ground if he turned around and said lets be clear lowering the Corporate Tax rate kennedy and that the the Senate Version of this bill doesnt do enough. Theres a lot of stock buybacks at first but the bottom line is lower the Corporate Tax rate generally companies will stay here instead of going away. Neil and by mentioning some of these off the chart Type Companies like amazon theyre very different than some of the other companies more standard for the rate reduction of this magnitude would make a difference . Adam if what youre saying neil is they have such complicated Tax Departments that can go all over the world in search of the lowest tax rate thats absolutely true. Neil i dont think thats what i said but sure ill go with that. Adam [laughter] anyway, i think the political point that charlie, that everybody is missing and cuban is making we know cuban cant stand donald trump is that people are going to be disappointed if they think oh, lets lower this tax rate, thats going to solve everything and excuse me charlie got this right. Its no panacea, and people will be disappointed if theyre hanging their hat on this. There are way more important things. Adam thats not the argument he made. Thats the problem. Adam i agree. Neil ben stein what do you think of this back and forth the corporate portion for which you were in favor not so much the individual stuff but that diminishing expectations here for that and that if companies dont hire more workers or investment plant and equipment you could make an argument that better than full employment and Balance Sheets is clean and thorough as theyve ever been there isnt much more room for that and they might just plow it back into their stock or buying outcome petty fors and temporarily cutting the number of Jobs Available what do you think . Ben what i think is i dont understand why mr. Cuban a smart capable guy said were shifting around the deck chairs on the titanic. This economy is not heading for an iceberg or sinking. This is an incredibly Strong Economy and prosperous economy. We have a labor shortage which is a sign of a very very Strong Economy and by the way, i would be fine if corporations used the money that they give back from the tax cuts to buyback their stock. That means the stock market will go up, that means Peoples Pension plans will go up, University Endowments will go up , hospital endowments will go up. Neil fair enough. Ben we dont have a sinking stock market but i recent calling economy the titanic. Kennedy the economy will do even better if republicans are finally capable of cutting spending. Thats where youre going to be. Neil theyre not capable of it. Kennedy but that would create the most hospitable market that charlie is talking about. Ben nobody can cut spending. Part of this is the president listen, it is fashionable at this network to say oh, its all those swamp dwelling guys in congress but lets be clear about where they go. They generally go where the leader of the party takes him. The leader of the party basically said lets do the tax cut, the personal side is insane youre essentially raising taxes on middle class people in new york and new jersey. Neil youre just angry theyre raising taxes on you and youre taking it out on the president. In california, i just talked to ben about this hes not so happy and the Small Business tax is negligible and by the way the notion of spending cuts generally comes from the president and does he ever talk about cutting a program . Neil well they cant do that well explore that on the cost of freedom but i mean youre right. They may never make progress on that but i am wondering about this view of the tax cut portion of this. I mean remember charles when all this started, that was where and i could even pre date this administration that was where the Obama Administration of congress was cooking up maybe a middle ground sort of a corporate relief that would be transformational and never got to that but keep to that, in fact the only part of it was going to be corporate really now weve got the corporate relief. What do you expect from it and we dont have it yet. Charles bottom line is ive already seen enough evidence that the wheel of commerce have begun to move in this country because corporations have got back to the natural knitting and thats grown their business, expanding building better mouse traps. Neil but will they continue doing that . Charles its already begun. After eight years of being in a foxhole Corporate America is back and eager to get going and they hire it and build factories but they could do more with lower taxes. I agree i wish it was lower taxes for Small Business which create most of the jobs. Kennedy amen. But you remember what trump did brilliantly and this is the best part of the trump economic plan so far is hes deregulated the economy. I spent some time with tim scott the governor from florida one night. Neil who . Very impressive. Governor of florida and he ran a Healthcare Company back in the day, and he basically explained how deregulation is a tax cut. Sure. Kennedy thats also critical to healthcare because you have to get more drugs to market and more cancer treatments and other innovations that will help people live longer, better, healthier lives the fda has to get out of the way one thing the president does understand and that also un shackles the economy and businesses and its that feeling that the government is getting out of the way that i think is bolstering a lot of this movement on wall street. And now if you could have ben feeling is a lot of it. Kennedy you could have the actual companion they could walk hand in hand into the sunset of glory and prosperity we would all win. Neil what . Ben feeling is a lot. The business doesnt feel it if the government is trampling on them any more. Feeling is a lot of it. Ive been told to shut up. Neil really. [laughter] not the first time im sure. Neil forget coming together. Is this the new theme at thanksgiving dinner . You might want to look at the extra stuffing. Do you want clean, stain free dentures . Try polident. The four in one cleaning system kills 99. 99 of odor causing bacteria, cleans where brushing may miss. Helps remove stains and prevent stain build up. Use polident daily. I am totally blind. And non24 can make me show up too early. Or too late. Or make me feel like im not really there. Talk to your doctor, and call 8442342424. If they knew just howers rich they were. Ed the average American Home value has increased 40,000 over the last 5 years. 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That politics could be ruining turkey day, politically divided families cutting thanksgiving short but get this, an average of 20 to 30 minutes in my family that would be the entire dinner they wouldnt have it. Kennedy what do you think . Kennedy this is a great rou se. So if you cant stand your family for nonpolitical reasons all you have to do is cut the evening short and say to yourself how great is america, whose sick of winning at the table . Its going to be done in 15 minutes. Go ahead and schedule your tinde r dates now. Neil ben stein, i cant imagine that this still exists a year later but i guess it exists ben i, your humble servant who loves you and is your servant, lost my two best friends in the whole world who live in san mateo, california because i voted for trump. They were my thanksgiving companion for decades and they dont even speak to me now because i voted for trump. They wont even speak to me and it breaks my heart and this is typical on whats happening all over the country. I have so many friends and relatives that dont speak to them. Neil can you say their names and well pay them a visit . Ben i better not say their names, but theyre dear friends and i see it happening all over the country. You know, its a very very sad thing. Trump is a great guy. I dont know why people get so upset about him. Yes you can disagree with him boheas a great guy. Neil but you know im wondering i wouldnt have called him a great guy. Ben but adam most families, you know, cut both ways politically and my own that way. We all just get along and just eat food and even if there are arguments that ensue, fine. I even have family members who watch cnn. Wow. Ben oh, though dont say that. Dont say that. Neil but my point is, yes, my point is that is it really that bad . I mean cant we handle our differences a little better than just opting to leave . I mean, i think so. Im extremely thankful. Im extremely thankful every thanksgiving. Neil so is president trump. You do that every year. What a great country we live in and how great our country has been for my entire lifetime and yes, i think that we need to avoid certain topics to have a nice day. We deserve one. Neil i agree with all that. What do you think . Charles yeah, i agree with it. Neil not the way you answered. You immediately said i agree with it. Charles i love talking politics with 25 and under. Once you get above 25 particularly north of 30 forget about it because it will never be a good conversation. Everyone is already has their own neil thats a crucial demo for us. Charles i thought we were going for the 25 and under. They dont buy it. Neil [laughter] kennedy and gold. Neil [laughter] stop it. You never know. You never ever know. I love having this conversation with younger people because they are open minded and it is refreshing. You know, my family neil is it a large group . Yeah, and its my brotherinlaw generally has thanksgiving, and you know, here is the interesting thing. Ive always grown up this way and my brotherinlaw is mostly thanksgiving is playing football , watching football and playing football with the kids, and you know, we stayed away from politics. Neil do you really target the kids or try to hurt them in Football Games . By the way, my nephew is no one to mess with. Neil is that right . But, even my niece, we throw the football around we have a good time and try to do that but my brotherinlaw did pass like judgment last year and said listen, no politics, just in case because we do have some radical trumpkins in my family. Neil i kind of hate that though when you cant argue or discuss things. Kennedy can you imagine where everyone has a really strong opinion and theyre all interrupting each other and they all want to Say Something . Neil but has it gotten to the point though that we just rule out conversations . No talking politics because we might hurt each other . Thats sad. Kennedy but people feel that way they will physically hurt each other if they disagree so thats why its best to but why cant you have one day where you focus on not the stuff that we argue about all day here and focus on hanging out. Kennedy dont want to fight neil but the cavutos were debating money supply at thanksgiving. Its the most boring thanks give on record. Kennedy one year we had a one very station what do you want your future to be like and its fascinating because when people talk about that you dont talk about politics and you think its uncomfortable but when you overcome those, then you can get into politics. Neil lets move into funeral s in the meantime mac and cheese, ritz crackers you name it, i call it my food pyramid but it looks like walmart is raising its online prices, and get this the retailer thinks that this is going to help sales and guess what . It already has. Ill explain, after this. 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Neil you know, less than a week away from black friday, walmart already looking to get shoppers back inside the store by raising prices online. Charlie, will that mean you go to walmart or just shop online somewhere else . Their theory seems to be with certain brands certain items it will actually increase traffic at the store, while other online sales are going. Charlie i dont shop much online. I dont shop really. Neil i kind of admire that. Charlie it seems like its stupid. Neil you walk by the outside of the stores . Charlie thank god theres a Clothing Program here at fox. Kennedy you and jeff bezos. Charlie wont you just go to another online thing and buy it from them . Neil amazon is lowering the prices on these items. Charles but they have to do something to get people in the stores and theyre doing a lot of other things with grocery delivery so on certain things people will be drawn by the fact that you can save money. Ultimately the walmart shopper is about saving money. Neil walmart and amazon at these levels right now, with the broke undown money one or the other which would you pick . Charles im in amazon still im not in walmart i missed the huge move. They bought jet. Com and i didnt think it was a big deal. Neil dont you dodge my question. Charles at the very moment id stick with amazon. Amazon is smart enough to undercut walmart online and people who are savvy to shop for their stuff online its a different level of consumption. They are going where the bargain s are and theres not enough brand loyalty at walmart to go the mac and cheese is 0. 15 a box more on line. Neil what do you do ben stein . How does this idea look to you . Ben it looks ridiculous to me because of the amount of savings that you get by buying for something for a few cents less as kennedy so happily said compared to the value of your time is trivial, so much much better to shop online, get it delivered to you just open the door, let the mailman and step on your dog and get bitten by your dog and just be happy that you saved the time. Time is money. Time is money, neil. Neil you sound a little eliteist there. Adam what do you think of this . Adam i think its a head scratcher. Walmart has done a good job of make long Term Investments like raising what they pay to their employees. This strikes me as a shortterm move of shifting people into their stores where they have such a big investment. Neil guys, put you down as a maybe on that plan. In the meantime, i want to thank kennedy, i want to thank charlie , meanwhile here is a wake up call total u. S. 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Neil ben. The spdrs, stick with the index. Neil you see the indexes doing well . Over long, long periods yes. If Warren Buffett thinks its right, its right. Neil this warren thing is borderline fixation with you, im just saying. David asman nothing borderline about it, all right. [laughter]. Neil here is david. David House Republicans just passing tax reform, Senate Republicans adding a big bonus to the package. A repeal of the Obamacare Mandate. So, will all republicans buy into it . The vote is set for just after the thanksgiving break and someone here says that americans are finally going to get the break they deserve. Hi, everybody. Im david asman. Welcome, find out which, bill ball, john tamny and rich, is this a smart move . Yeah, i sure hope the republicans in the senate line up together like people like