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Almost exactly to a t the instructions that isis has put out in its social Media Channels before with instructions to their followers on how to carry out such an attack. Paul judge Michael Mukasey served as the 81st attorney general of the United States, and he also presided over the criminal prosecution of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing suspects. Judge, good to have you here again. Good to be here. Paul you heard john miller. This is the kind of nightmare scenario for people who are trying to prevent this. Somebody selfradicalizedded here, very hard to stop. Well, selfradicalized is one of those phrases that, frankly, id like to bury because he didnt invent the doctrine, he didnt create the videos, the support system and Everything Else that goes with it. He was alone, in a sense, but somebody who had passed through the radar before. Paul what i mean by that is there is not links that would have shown him to have popped up on the screen where the fbi or nypd could say, aha, hes somebody we need to watch. So he just pops up when he murders people. Right. Paul so how do you prevent that . One way you prevent it is its hard to prevent, obviously, somebody whos already here whos intent on doing that. Its not impossible, but its hard. The if you have to get into the support system that he may have had, likely did have, you have to monitor web sites that do this, monitor them aggressively. And in part, we have to figure out what, for example, what extreme vetting really means. What are we vetting for . What were vetting for is to find people who cant support either the legitimacy or the supremacy of secular law, which is what we have here in this country. Paul very hard to do, though, when youre interviewing somebody at the border. In this case, this guy seems to have been just a regular person in uzbekistan. And it isnt one of those countries that has been at the top of the list. I understand that. And he may not have betrayed this when he first came into the country, it was a long time ago. But we need to find people who will not create insular societies to have people live apart and get radicalized. And there are, by the way, techniques and technologies for checking that stuff out. One of them was developed with a grant from dhs, and they refused to implement it because it unduly invaded the privacy of people being questioned. Poole paul it seems to me that thats what you have to do though sure. Paul because the border vetting would not, in this case, have worked. Or in some of the other cases, the fellow in san bernardino, that wouldnt have worked. He was an american citizen. So youve got to try and get these people when they seem to be interested in this radical doctrine. Right. And it takes, it takes active pursuit, and it takes acknowledgment and knowledge of what it is youre pursuing. Paul okay. He was read his miranda rights and processed in criminal court right away. Mistake . Yes. When you have somebody like that in custody, his principal value is not as a defendant. Theyve got a ton of evidence against him. They dont need his statement. His principal value is as a possible source of intelligence. If nothing else, at least to find out what he looked at, with whom he looked at it if there was anybody else and so on. Thats what should have been the focus, not getting him into the criminal process. Paul did you have a protocol when, in the bush administration, for handling cases like this with interrogation . I think the protocol was pretty much to get intelligence first. They had, we had a system of, essentially, a clean team paul right. Going in and conducting questioning. But even that, i think, was somewhat put together ramshackle. Paul okay. Lets turn to the Robert Mueller probe. You saw the indictments this week of Paul Manafort and mr. Gates and the plea deal with papadopoulos. What do you make of them . Well, there are, they are a nice beginning, i suppose, if youre a prosecutor. But they are a beginning. And notably, the deal with pap adopt louse that has papadopoulos that has everybodys eyebrows going up and down did not charge him with anything like collusion. He was charged with making a false statement. Paul which is kind of the lowest level of prosecution theres no such thing as collusion as a crime. You will look in vain in the criminal code to find a crime of collusion. Conspiracy, yes. But not collusion. Paul why do you think they didnt charge conspiracy . I guess maybe they didnt have the evidence that he was conspiring with anybody . Correct. And what they advanced as the at the same statement of the crime or the statement of the criminal background shows that this guy was kind of a lowlevel climber who was trying to push his way to the top, talking about how wonderful it would be if donald trump went to russia and a talked to putin. And theres a little footnote in there that says that d. T. , meaning donald trump, doesnt do these trips, and we ought to tell whoever this guy is talking to, we ought to turn him off ask do it at a low level so that we dont send a signal. That looks like it was something that they thought was a heirbrained harebrained scheme. Paul in the manafort and gates cases, it seems to me if those two guys were going to cooperate, they would have cooperated already to get a lower, some kind of plea deal because muellers throwing the book at them. I mean, these are, you know, serious charges with a lot of prison time. Hes throwing a book at them but not necessarily the book. It doesnt charge, i mean, he talks about a fraudulent scheme, but he doesnt charge bank fraud which carries a 30year penalty. He labels it conspiracy against the United States. Theres no such crime. Theres either conspiracy to violate a statute like the bank robbery law or whatever, or theres conspiracy to defraud the United States. Theres no such thing as conspiracy against the United States. He made it sound like treason. Paul he did. Thats the heavy hand and the empty holster. Tulle. Paul so you think there may be less here than meets the eye . There may be more, i dont know. But certainly, whatevers there wasnt uncorked in this indictment. Paul all right. Thank you, judge, appreciate it. When we come back, in the wake of tuesdays rampage, President Trump vows to shut down the visa program used by the terror suspect, saipov, to enter the United States. But will an immigration crackdown prevent future attacks . Our panel weighs in on that and the latest in the mueller probe, next. 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Paul that was President Trump thursday calling on congress to end the diversity visa lottery. The state Department Program admitted new york city terror suspect psi fallow saipov into the country in 2010, but would an immigration crackdown have stopped tuesdays rampage, and will it prevent future terror attacks . Lets ask columnist and deputy editor, dan henninger, mary kissel and Columnist Bill mcgurn. So, bill, you heard judge mukasey. Right. Paul how would, how worried should trump be about these indictments . About the mueller indictments . Paul yeah. So far im not so sure he has to be worried. Theres no mention of trump or collusion in these indictments. Look, the big question is, is this the tip of the iceberg . Or is it the iceberg . And we dont know. [laughter] i think this is one of the disadvantages of leaving these things to a special prosecutor rather than congress which kind of airs them in public, and you get the information. Paul yeah. Mary, do you think that the Robert Mueller is going to investigate the other side of this . Which is the, how the fbi which he ran for a dozen years handled the Christopher Steele memo which is that memo, that dossier full of what seems to be discredited information about donald trump that was put together by fusion gps, recruited Christopher Steele, the former british spy, to put it together. And then the fbi, according to reporting, used it as part of its own investigation. Well, he certainly should investigate it, paul. Weve also learned, of course, that the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National committee funded that dossier, used it to smear paul through fusion gps. Used it to smear the president , and the fbi also used it to some extent. We dont know if the fbi, for instance, used that dossier to obtain a court order to surveil the trump campaigns. There are a lot of questions here, paul, and i would hope in his position that, yes, he would investigate it. Paul and if he doesnt do it, do you hope that the intelligence committees do on capitol hill . Yeah. And i think they do intend to. I mean, the question about mr. Mueller is he is a former fbi director, and he was also paul 12 years. For 12 years. And hes Close Friends with james comey. Now, nobody questions mr. Muellers integrity. And if anybody could overcome a conflict like that, perhaps it is him. But under normal circumstances, the appearance of a conflict like that would cause a person presumably to step back. Its just normally not the sort of thing you do. Paul right, exactly. I dont think you can say just on its face credibly say, look, i can investigate this body that i ran for 12 years. Its very hard to do. Right. The fbi is now an issue in this investigation. Its not just did they use this. At one point they were trying to put Christopher Steele on the payroll. And the question is, why . How does, how do you go from being an Opposition Research person for one campaign to a paid fbi agent, fbi informant or something with information . So the fbi question is sort of coming to the surface higher than many of the other questions in terms of actual evidence. Paul all right, mary, lets turn to the terror attack. What do you think of trumps initial response immediately right out of the box, boom, kill the Diversity Visa Program . [laughter] is that an appropriate response . Well, its a political response because he referenced Chuck Schumer who was one of the cosponsors of the bill. Of course, it was a bipartisan bill, it was signed by the elder president bush. So not accurate there. Paul to say that its a democratic program. Exactly. But i think it would be more constructive to try to unify the country after an attack like this. I mean, this is really a shocking event. An isis attack in the heart of manhattan in the shadow of the freedom tower. I mean, killing eight people, wounding dozens more. And also i think, paul, theres a question about when this guy was radicalized. Its unclear given the information we have so far if he was radicalized before he came into the country or if he selfradicalized after he came into the country. If the latter, then the visa program has nothing to do with this. Paul right. It seems that, certainly, we didnt when we vetted him, we didnt ask him enough about what his terror beliefs were. But it seems that from the early evidence it was here when, that he became radicalized. Thats the nightmare scenario. It is, for sure. But, you know, we had the attempted bombing in chelsea, new york, downtown new york a couple of year, that person is now on trial. Paul right. And he had assembled a lot of bombmaking materials in new jersey, ball bearings, fertilizer and so fort. Now, you know so forth. Software Data Analytics is getting to the point where theyre able to assemble a lot of these data to have Predictive Value about people like this. I mean, look, amazon, google, theyre all doing it in our own lives. Data analytics is everywhere, but its now being used to predict, say, diseases, mass migrations. And the defense Science Board has proposed doing this for terror, the cia is already using it, and i think theyre just going to get better at it over time, but there will be privacy questions raised about whether, you know, we should expose ourselves in this way. We do it every day. Paul and just briefly, bill, the interrogation side of this, he seems to have been processed right away, moved right through the criminal justice system. They didnt pull him aside 30 days, they read him his miranda rights. It seems to me the judge call it a mistake. This is my constant refrain. When an attack occurs, we say no one connected the dots, and after it subsides, we do everything to prevent it. Big data can do a big part, but a lot is human intelligence and interrogation citizen mr. Knew as mr. Mukasey said. There are whole groups of people in the United States that dont want us to find this information whether its a Police Report on radicalization or the interrogations under the bush administration. Paul all right. Thank you very much. When we come back, calling them the most transformational cuts in a generation, House Republicans unveil their longawaited tax plan. So does it live up to the hype . Find out next. This plan is for the middle class families in this country who deserve a break. It is for the families who are out there living paycheck to paycheck who just keep getting paycheck who just keep getting squeezed. By listening to an thiaudiobook on audible. Ame and this guy is just trying to get through the day. This guy feels like he can take on anything. This guy isnt sure he can take it anymore. Unwavering selfconfidence. Stuck in a 4door sedan of sadness. Upgrade your commute. Ride with audible. Dial star star audible on your smartphone to start listening today. With this bill, theres relief for real american families. Theres relief for American Workers, and theres tax relief for hard working job creators of all sizes. And with this bill, we will grow our economy by delivering more jobs, fairer taxes and bigger paychecks to americans of all walks of life. Paul that was house ways and means chair kevin brady thursday unveiling the longawaited details of the republican plan to overhaul the tax code. The plan, released after weeks of internal negotiations, cuts the Corporate Tax rate at the top from 35 to 20 and reduces individual income tax brackets from seven to four, maintaining a top rate of 39. 6 for couples earning more than a Million Dollars. Here with a look at what else is in the plan and who stands to benefit most, scott hodge, president of the tax foundation. Welcome, scott, good to see you. Thanks, paul. Paul looking at this bill overall, what do you think of the proposal, the reform . It reflects all of the compromises and all of the tradeoffs that you have to make in coming up with comprehensive tax reform given the politics, the budgetary constraints they were under and, in many cases, the economics. Is and so on the one hand on the individual side of the ledger, they made some huge tradeoffs, giving a lot of tax relief to the middle class, sacrificing lowering top class rates so they get no Economic Growth from the individual side of the ledger. They do get a lot of Economic Growth from the business or corporate side of the tax code by loring that top rate for lowering that top rate for corporations. We estimate that that alone will actually lift the size of the economy by about 3 over the next decade. So thats great news. And perhaps on that point, no country on earth has ever dropped the corporate rate so far so fast as is proposed under this plan. Thats really good news. Paul all right. The other thing on the business side, two elements, and i want you to talk about those. One, expensing 100 immediate for five years for businesses. Yeah. Paul thats big progrowth, i think, if i read your literature correct. But the other thing is Small Businesses, the socalled passthroughs, most of them Small Businesses but some somewhat larger, that rates going down from 39. 6 to 25. Those are big progrowth as well . They are. They would have been more had the the expensing provision been made permanent. Thisll be somewhat like the cash for clunkers approach to tax policy where theyre going to get a rush of growth up front, but thatll taper off over time, and they wont get the growth over the long term that they might expect. So thats more of a budget gimmick in some respects. On the business side, thatll be interesting to see because they are exempting an awful lot of businesses from that 25 rate because theyre afraid of people gaming that system. Transferring what is, essentially, a wage income into business income to game the system. Theyve got a host of rules on that, theyre going to make that extremely complicated. Itll be interesting to see how much growth you actually get from it. Paul well, if youre a Hardware Store owner or a franchisee of a mcdonalds or Something Like that, youre going to qualify for this. Absolutely. Paul the people they want to make sure dont game the system are the big tax lawyers or the consultants who can turn wage income and, oh, hey, i qualify for this lower rate. And if that happens, look, then theyre paying 25 or as wage slaves like you and me and most of america are still going to pay at the higher rates. You dont want that. No, thats exactly right. And thats why they built in these very, very tough rules. Now, theyre going to add a whole lot of complications to that, and i think were already seeing some of the kickback from the Small Business groups because of that complexity and fact that so many of their memberships will not be eligible. Paul all right. You mentioned this socalled tax rut for the middle class. Theyve done it through, theyre changing the rates and in some cases people are getting rate cuts at the middle or lower income levels, but theyre also including increasing the child credit by 600 per child and adding a parental credit, a nonchild dependent credit. Thats very expensive. 640 billion over ten years. But you suggested thats not going to help the economy much. Explain. No, it really doesnt. Its really more of a transfer program or a gift to people who have children. It may be good social policy, but its not good tax policy, and its not good economic policy. It does very little to stimulate Economic Growth because its simply cutting peoples taxes without encouraging them to work any more or invest any more or save any more. So from all the economic standards that we use, it really does nothing for growth. It just becomes a big budget item. But it was, apparently, necessary for the politics of this, because they had to show that they were cutting taxes for the middle class. Paul right. Well, the danger there is you end up with and its basically a form of social engineering policy and it complicated the tax code, makes it harder to really reduce rates in the future at all. And we know theres an immediate cost because they arent reducing the rates at the top. So does this suggest to you that were, the 39. 6 rate which is really higher because you have that surcharge for medicare as part of obamacare, that were talking about, you know, tax rates on people of means, you know, the affluent that are going to probably never fall below what they are now . Thats probably right. In fact, theres a little kicker in here, paul, where they have what they call a bubble where theyre recapturing the benefits that a high income person would get from the 12 tax rate, and theyre taking that back at incomes above, say, a Million Dollars or two Million Dollars. So the rate will actually be closer to about 44 rather than 39. 6, and then as you mentioned, itll have the obamacare surtax on there. So were looking at tax rates in the mid 40s for those people who earn more than, say, a million or two Million Dollars. Paul even in the upper 40s perhaps for some folks. Right. Paul all right. Thank you, scott hodge, appreciate it. You bet. 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Well, i think scotts exactly right, that were looking at a major progrowth cut on the business side and nothing on the individual side thats going to make it meaningfully better. The house narrowly avoided sunsetting the corporate rate cut in years nine and ten which is a huge relief because Companies Make Investment Decisions longer than ten years. Now, to make the math work for the budget, they had to make other things temporary like the new parent credit, but that does nothing for growth and could be extended if congress decides. Paul and the expensing provision, five years as scott said. But i think therell be pressure to extend that after five years. Thatd be my guess. Oh, absolutely. Well just do this every five years if we have to. Paul okay. So, dan, the business side seems to be the best. The business side does, indeed, seem to be the best. Cutting the corporate rate from 35 to 20 . And let me address one issue here which is that the democrats and some in the media are highlighting the fact that the big cut ising for corporations. Cut is coming for corporations as though theyre something out of a Science Fiction movie where they just sit there in spats running the world. [laughter] corporations, the idea is to create more Capital Investment which expands jobs, which the last time i looked is the way most people support their families, and to allow wages to rise over time. Thats a bigger deal than getting a small tax cut for most people. A real job with a higher wage. And that is presumably, surely what will happen if you cut that 35 rate down to 20. Paul and, james, making us more competitive with the world. You wrote for years in the Obama Administration about these inversions. Yeah. Paul where businesses would say i cant take the u. S. Rate anymore, im going to move to london, ireland or even canada, for heaven sake right. Paul and this would be making our code much more competitive globally. Yeah. So weve got the highest tax rate in the industrialized world, and now this is going to bring us when you throw in the state taxes back to average. Were going to achieve mediocrity with this cut, but thats fine. Paul its still a little bit below. Its 24 for the oecd average, i think. Right. So if you take the 20 federal in this bill, you add the state taxes, youre roughly in that ballpark which is good enough because there are so many other reasons to invest in the United States. If we can finally now get competitive on the tax side, you can really see that growth kick up. We got a couple of good quarters now, maybe it keeps going. And thats whats really exciting. But keep in mind there are tons of individual tax cuts in here. I know a lot of folks in the media want to talk about the corporations and we love that that rates getting competitive, but the 10 rate at the bottom end is now zero. So huge tax cut for individuals, for families. Paul kate, take that on. We dont want a tax code that takes millions more people off the rolls and relies on a smaller pool of taxpayers to fund the government. And i would also note weve got things like state and local deduction which right now is still eliminated paul which you think is good. Which i think is good, but will it raise taxes for individuals in some hightax areas. New york and California Republicans have been won over by this compromise that theyre working on. But anyway, weve also got a mortgage Interest Deduction cap paul 500,000. For new homes which thats being treat as a tax increase on the middle class paul but it isnt. Its ridiculous, exactly. Paul were going to take away, which is the whole point of tax reform. What you want to do is take away the special breaks for certain kinds of behavior to be able to reduce the tax rates for everybody. True. But i think House Republicans deserve credit for capping the mortgage Interest Deduction, because their original blueprint left it untouched x the realtors went wild and said this would be a tax increase on the middle class, which is ridiculous, and the House Republicans said, okay, if youre going to be greedy, well cap the deduction. Paul what they disliked was the doubling of the standard deduction because they said, oh, fewer people will itemize, dan, on their taxes, but thats okay. I mean, you want the similar siy for most people, if possible, just a postcard on tax reform. And thats a benefit for a lot of taxpayers, will be simplicity. The problem i have is youre not cutting any rates, you know, very much at all. Yeah. And the question is why not. Something we should make clear to our viewers as they try to watch the tax bill move through the sausage factory over the next month is that the republicans are constrained by something called the byrd rule in the senate, rule set up by senator robert byrd which means you cannot increase the deficit over ten years paul after ten years. They have to squeeze all of this tax cutting into that window, and thats why you see all this manipulation of math inside the tax bill. If that didnt exist, youd be able to get a much simpler, cleaner bill. You also have the problem in the senate that they dont understand the way the house does how the economy works. So the house, theyve got a lot of these individual cuts, but they understand youve got to get that corporate rate down immediately. Unfortunately, marco rubio doesnt really get economics, its not his strong suit, so theyre pushing for more and more on the individual side that doesnt grow the economy. Paul thank you all. Still ahead, President Trump embarks on his First Official trip to asia amid growing tensions in the region. What to look for as the high stakes tour gets under way, ne paul President Trump departed friday for his First Official visit to asia. The 12day, fivecountry tour includes stops in japan, south korea, china, vietnam and the philippines and comes amid growing tensions in the region. Including kim jong uns Nuclear Provocations in north korea and xi jinpings tightening grip on power in china. Were back with dan henninger, mary kissel and bill mcgurn. So, mary, what should we look for on this trip . Well, i think his itinerary shows the priority. First, to japan and then to south korea south korea. Obviously, the focus is to show solidarity against north korea. And then he goes to china where hes going to exert, i think, more pressure on beijing to tighten the financial strings to the north. The southern leg of the trip, when he goes to philippines and vietnam, that is all about china because those countries are important allies in terms of our containment of china. Hes trying to reestablish u. S. Deterrence in the region. These are important priorities. But my fear is, paul, that he might go and talk about a trade and what he calls fair trade, focus on trade deficits instead of talking about free and open trade. Kind of liberalization that we need to emphasize. Paul on that point, mary, if he goes to south korea and japan, heres your priority, and then you say, oh, and by the way, folks, you need to make sure you make this trade concession to us and the following trade concession to us, that undercuts part of his message. Yeah, it certainly does. By the way, its tough for japan and south korea to be friends in the first place given paul their history. Their history together. One other thing that id note, President Trump has not spoken very much about human rights and democracy. Hes going to many countries on this trip that have a terrible record, including china, including vietnam, including the philippines. One of the briefings this week noted that trump has a warm rapport with rodrigo duterte, not a good look for the administration because it sends a message to the people of this country, not just the leadership. Paul dan. Well, i think one thing youre seeing here is what we might call a pivot to asia, remember that . [laughter] Barack Obamas famous pivot to asia, except that obama pivoted to iran to do the nuclear deal for most of his presidency even as north korea was continuing to develop thermonuclear weapons, lobbing missiles over the sea of japan. And this has gotten the attention of the American People. North koreas clearly a threat. These other countries other than china that hes visiting are worried about china pushing into the south china sea. And what hes going to do something that the National Security Council Adviser general mcmaster really wants to do, and jim mattis, the defense secretary, is reconstitute our alliances over there and get a sort of broadened Security Network that doesnt rely solely on the United States protecting the region, but has pulls in all of these other countries in an alliance that will push back against north korea and china. Paul bill, i was in tokyo and singapore last week, and the message that i heard consistently was that they want from the president reassurance of the u. S. Commitment. What they fear is that trump is not something distinctive, but that hes a continuation of what obama started. Right, right. Paul and obama withdrew us from that part of the world, notwithstanding the rhetoric of the pivot. There were no resources he put behind it or very few. And they see china on the ascendance filling the gap left by american retreat, and they fear with trumps withdrawal from the pacific trade deal, for example, that hes going to continue that. What theyre looking for here is him saying, no, were not. Right. Look, the reality starts with the postwar experience of American Leadership in asia. Help these countries democratize, helped trade, helped enrich them, and its been very good for the United States paul and i should just tell people, you lived in hong kong for many years. Right, right. And its been very good for asia. And for the most part, who are the two people opposed to that . China, because its a big country and it wants to dominate its own region, and north korea because theyre just a belligerent, nasty little country. [laughter] and these are the two issues for donald trump. North koreas his red line, right . Donald trump seldom gets to play the good cop, but h. R. Mcmaster just came out and said that if north korea, you know, acted aggressively, we would use all capabilities, and i think thats a good message in his press conference yesterday mcmaster said the current policy is the en is the end of the beginning of their policy. In other words, impose sanctions and they clearly have a set of plans that they intend to implement paul regarding north korea. The second thing is that donald trump has been worried about china, it was part of his issue in the campaign. Unfortunately i think the lack of a trade agenda, the countries in asia are either going to be dominated economically by the United States or by china. And when you withdraw that way and when you suggest to suggest your leadership minot quite be there, youre elevating china. Paul thank you all. As polls continue to tightennen ahead of tuesdays vote, the Virginia Governors race takes an early turn with democrats you might take something for your heart. Or joints. 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Those who have had a drug or alcohol problem may be more likely to misuse lyrica. Now i have less diabetic nerve pain. Ask your doctor about lyrica. Retail. Under pressure like never before. And its connected technology thats moving companies forward fast. Ecommerce. Real time inventory. Virtual changing rooms. Thats why retailers rely on comcast business to deliver consistent Network Speed across multiple locations. Every corporate office, warehouse and store near or far covered. Leaving every competitor, threat and challenge outmaneuvered. Comcast business outmaneuver. Paul with polls tightening ahead of tuesdays vote, the race for Virginia Governor took an ugly turn this week with a group called the Latino Victory Fund launching this ad attacking republican candidate ed gillespie. Run run, run, run come on. Is this what don disprump ed gillespie mean by the American Dream . Paul the ad was pulled following the halloween terror attack in new york city, but its not the first time the left has tried to link gillespie to white nationalists. Former Clinton Campaign spokesman brian fallon tweeted a picture from charlottesville with a caption live look at Ed Gillespie Campaign strategy meeting. Were back with dan, Kate Batchelor odell and bill gun. So, dan, whats the thinking behind that ad, and is it working . Well, the thinking behind the northam ad is that theyre trying to appeal to immigrants and so forth. Theyve replaced that ad, the one thats currently running Associates Ed gillespie literally with donald trump, shows them standing side by side. If you vote for ed gillespie, youre voting for donald trump. So northams strategy is to try to associate him with trump and make it an election about donald trump rather than whats going on inside virginia. Look, this is a turnout election. Northam has been having some problems animating minorities. Hes got to have their vote. He needs the vote of people in Northern Virginia who did not vote for trump, and gillespie needs the people in virginia who did vote for trump. Paul but is it working, bill . Probably not in the way it was intended. Id say its not just to associate ed gillespie with donald trump, but as youve seen, with the White Supremacists that marched on charlottesville. Its really an obscene ad and should be thought of the next time people complain about divisive g work p politics. Gop politics. I think eds handling it wisely. His contributions online have increased because he has an ad attacking northam for this ad, and he says its not just that Ralph Northam disagrees with ed gillespie and his policies, its that he disdains us. The big problem that the democrats have in virginia is that the Obama Coalition sometimes doesnt turn out for anyone but barack obama. And theyre trying to mobilize them. Thats the question, whos going to mobilize these people. And i think a lot of people in virginia may be thinking theyre tired of being called racist and white supremacist. Paul kate, this would normally be a victory opportunity for democrats, right . You have a republican in the white house as president , that often helps turn out in the next year after that Victory Drive to the opposite party. Thats been kind of the history in places like virginia. But if and then the democrats think, well, boy, if you can just associate gillespie, as dan said, with trump, thats a sure winner. Not turning out to be. No. I think people watched that ad and even people who are politically unaffiliated say, oh, thats what the democrats think of me, they think im a racist. I think them can accurates are democrats are so hungry for a victory gauze the ba because the gop has more than 30 governors across the country, and they are so desperate to hold onto this governorship. One thing were going to have to watch is how these suburban districts where trump is really unpopular, if gillespie can outperform trump. The facts on the ground here should favor the democrats, and if they cant pull this off, this is going to be a major defeat for them. Paul and gillespie is focusing on virginia issues, the economy, tax cut proposal is a big, big issue, but some people would criticize him for focusing on this gang, ms13, which is the Central American gang that murdered some people in virginia, and gillespie ran an ad about it saying, linking northams opposition to a bill banning sang chow ware cities. Sanctuary cities. And barack obama said, see, gillespie is playing to fears. Yeah, and also for running ads in which he says they should not be taking down all of the monuments such as robert e. Lee. Paul but is that the politics of division as well, or do you think those are legitimate issues . Theyre obviously legitimate issues in virginia, people are talking about these things. The latin american gangs have been killing people. God knows the monuments are an issue [laughter] and both of these candidates are trying to turn out votes. Its politics, for heaven sakes. This isnt kindergarten exercise. Paul bill . Yeah. I was going to say, look, the monument issue is a big issue in virginia which is chock full of [laughter] confederate monuments as anyone thats lived there knows. Paul and gillespies view is these are part of our history we can have a plaque that puts them in context, and were not just going to tear them down willynilly. Guess what . Thats the view of the overwhelming majority of virginians. They have a right to know with where their governor is going to stand on sanctuary cities and so forth. Paul we have to take one more break. When we come back, hits and misses of the week. Paul time now for our hits and misses of the week. Bill, start us off. Paul, a miss to the American Bar Association which seems to be up to its old to tricks. It gave a notqualified rating to steve grants, Donald Trumps nominee for the eighth Circuit Court of appeals. The aba says its worried whether he would be able to detach himself from his deeplyheld social beliefs on issues like abortion. It twisted a law review article from 1999 that suggests he doesnt believe a lower court should follow a president. The best act of revenge is to confirm this man, which i is going to happen. A hit to American Workers who did a fantastic job in the Third Quarter creating more goods and services, productivity finally rising again, up 3 . Lets hope this is the beginning of a trend. Paul thats after a long,ing long trough of really mediocre productivity results, and good jobs report on friday as well. Thats right. Paul kate . This is a hit for Epas Scott Pruitt who this week said that scientists who get grants from epa cant sit on Advisory Boards that advise the agency on scientific decisions. This is being treated as a war on independent science, but for years the agency has been stacking these panels with people who rely on the agency for funding and rubber stamp whatever epa has to do. So this is great for Good Government and other agencies like the food and Drug Administration should do the same thing. Paul bill, briefly, good week on judges. Very good week. We had four Appellate Court judges confirmed, thats more than president obama had his entire first year, so theyre churning them through. Paul all right, thank you. Thats it for this weeks show. Thanks to all of you for watching. Im paul gigot. Hope to see you right here next week. Tonight on war stories. He was a texas school teach chore became a washington power house. Johnson is a mixture of huge achievements and tragic failures. 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