75 million funneled through offshore accounts, manaforts share, 18 million. A former policy advisor to the Trump Campaign, unpaid volume ear, George Papandreou dolous, pleaded guilty. Were getting to the bomb of bottom of this and more. We got an allstar lineup tonight, including legal eagle and author, Alan Dershowitz, economist bernstein, Mike Huckabee and former david bossie. The dow did turn south on the news that the trump Corporate Tax cut may grabbed allly phased in over five years. The dow slid 100 points on that news, despite the gradual phaseins are practiced in overseas countries. Countries in europe do it all the time. President trump and republicans want an inimmediate Corporate Tax cut. The phasein would drop the corporate rate five years out to 2022. Latest on charges against pal manafort and his associate of rick gates and George Papadopoulos. Lets get to blake burman live at white house. Blake . Reporter federal judge set Paul Manaforts bond at 10 million. Five million for his business associate rick gates. This 31page indictment lays out 12 different counts against manafort and accusing him of the following first off, essentially tax fraud. Money landerring to the tune of 18 million. Lying as well to the department of justice and not registering a a foreign lobbiest. Manafort pleaded not guilty to all charges. The indictment doesnt mention whatsoever President Trump as it lays out manaforts business dealings before he joined the Trump Campaign. To that end the president sent out a couple tweets which went as follows. Sorry, this is years ago before Paul Manafort was part of the Trump Campaign but why arent crooked hillary and the dells the focus . The president foes on to write there is no collusion. Earlier at White House Press briefing. Press secretary Sarah Sanders tried to put a gap between president s campaign and manaforts business ties. There are no activities or official capacity which the Trump Campaign were engaged in these activities. Most of them took place well before the campaign ever existed reporter for the special counsel to go on forward and do it independently and here is Chuck Schumer speaking a while on the senate floor. Night is critical that we need to get to the bottom of this. That is special counsel muellers job, and he must be allowed to perform it without interference. Reporter now the special counsels office announced former Trump Campaign advisor George Papadopoulos admitted to lying to federal investigators about his contact with a russian national. Liz . Liz thank you, blake. Lets recap the grand jury indictment. Alleges Paul Manafort funneled 18 million through shell companies. Used it to buy luxury cars, real es state and more. A separate indictment unsealed against George Papadopoulos. He was unpaid Trump Campaign advisor. He pled guilty to the fbi for links to individuals. As democrat power lobbiest, tony podesta is stepping down from his lobbying shop after coming under investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller. Look who is here. Harvard professor Alan Dershowitz. Nice to be here. Liz it doesnt include russian meddling and Trump Campaign. By the way you predicted all this would happen. I did. Liz your book came out in september. You come on the show. You said this was coming. What is, what is the aim of Robert Mueller here . Is he trying to flip Paul Manafort to get to bigger fruit . Oh, of course. The object of going after manafort for crimes that have nothing to do with his mandate to look at russian collusion is to leverage him into testifying against the next domino and then the next domino. Ultimately mueller is going after the big domino in the oval office. It is a tactic often used against organized crime, sometimes corporate crime, sometimes terrorism. Rarely but sometimes against political figures as well. But its a dangerous tactic because the cooperating witness knows that the better his testimony, the sweeter the deal. Cooperating witnesses tend to exaggerate or lie. Instead of siging, they compose. They make up stories in order to get themselves is a better deal. This is not something that we ought to immediately say this is a wonderful, wonderful, development. People who care about civil berths and rule of law are long concerned about flipped witnesses. The implication this is fallout, the charges brought today, fallout over president firing fbi director james comey. These charges cover events that occurred before manafort was running trumps campaign. Your worry manafort could start embellishing things. He could. Liz the mueller team, do they have down the middle integrity to stop that . If they know about it, they will stop it. If his lawyers know about it, they will stop it. Smart defendants sometimes figure out a way of exaggerating, just putting a little bit more spin on the evidence to make it more pa palatable to prosecutors. In 53 years practicing criminal law, ive seen enough of that when you it is done to your political enemies you love it. When it happens to your friends you hate it. I care deeply about rule of law whether it impacts Hillary Clinton or donald trump. That is what i called it in trumped up. We see it on both sides, lock him up. Lock her up. Liz i have retirement from retired lieutenant ralph peters. I love your reaction to what colonel peters says. Roll tape. Whether or not Vladmir Putin has undue influence or has had undune influence on president ial administration. Let us hope with the Mueller Probe, Mueller Probe is done, that well find that President Trump has no involvement. But weve got to pursue it to the end and every american, right or left should want to know with certainty that Vladmir Putin has no influence. Liz trey gowdy said the same thing. To get to the bottom of it. The best argument against having special counsel. Liz why . Special counsel is looking only for crimes. There are no crimes in collusion. Take the worstcase scenario. Liz is there a federal criminal statute that says collusion . No. Take worstcase scenario, this never happened. President trump calls Vladmir Putin. Vlad do i have a deal for you, you want to get rid of sane shuns, you help me be president , i will get rid of sanctions. Terrible the horrible. Not a crime. There is nothing in the criminal statute book against that maybe there should be but there isnt. We should never have special counsel. We should have a bipartisan or nonpartisan independent Commission Like 9 11, like the warren commission, looking into the relationship between russia and american elections, whether it impacts democrats or republicans. Thats correct. In other words both sides of the political aisle . Correct. We want to get to the bottom of it. One thing about criminal prosecution, doesnt get to the bottom of it. All it does is prosecute people based on proof beyond a reasonable doubt behind closed doors of grand juries. Exactly the opposite liz a great point. Bipartisan commission would have been transparent. Thats right. Liz so heres the bottom line. There is corrosive alleged influence by russia through social media. Right. Liz poisoning basically what was going on last year, via false advertising, to maybe suppress the vote and divide people, right . Is that the worst thing . Doing this for years. They have been doing it in all countries of europe. They have done it in south america. Look, our cia did it a little bit in south america and iran. Were not blameless on this but russians developed it to an art. Theyre still doing. That is why we ought to get to the bottom of it. I dont know if they want to help clinton or want to help trump. That is the not issue. The issue is trying to tamper with an american election. All americans, democrat or republican, should be concerned getting to the bottom of that. Liz professor makes an important point, we have to get to ben stein. Russia has been in and out of recession for 20 years. Theyre basically a third world economy. Of course they do things like that. Yep. Liz get his book trumped up. Alan dershowitz said this would happen in the summer, back in september. Buy his book, trumped up. Lets get back to the Corporate Tax debate. Talk of a fiveyear phasein in Corporate Tax cuts. This is going on now. Markets took a hit, went down 100 points. Well stay on that story for you. By the way, chill out, europe does it all the time with phaseins, not a big deal. President trump and Republican Leaders were hoping for a immediate rate cut. Bring in ben stein, author of the capitalist code. Honor as always. Liz what do you think about what theyre debating in now with the Corporate Tax cut. I have no problem with the phasein, doesnt have to be more immediately. I think more thought fully gradually anything we do with the tax code better off we are. Liz the housing industry is in uproar. We want housing tax credit to build properties. If you build mortgage interest deduction. Bottom line, ben, you said this, we do have the best tax system money can buy right, with all the lobbyists out. Well we have a very good tax system, even not counting what money can buy but the idea eliminating deduction for state and local property taxes is very bad idea. That is proven true by political scientists by history that societies which a large number of people own their own homes are more stable societies. We want to encourage people to own their own homes. That means allowing to deduct state and local property taxes they should by all means be able to do it. No amount of savings or recoupment of taxes is worth destroying that incredibly important piece of social foundation for this country. Liz ben, were coming to the wire. Well see the tax plan i think wednesday. You know, you and i were talking on friday about the problem with the republicans messaging. They should talk about reagan, talk about broad tax cuts, broadbased tax cuts, helping all income classes. Nancy pelosi saying assault on middle class. You and i were talking about how that were true, al gore, joe biden, john kerry should not have voted for reagan tax cuts. They voted for same thing, right . We want to talk about i think as republican and conservative is, who do you want to have your money, you, your pham i also, your grandchildren, or the government. Who do you trust more with your money this we want to say we know the government has certain indefensible functions, especially defense, we dont begrudge them a single penny there. But we want a very cold eye if you are taxed we want the money spent very, very carefully and very, very well. If you do not spend it that well. Not give it to you in the first place. Let the people keep it. Ii want to go back to the household property tax credit. That is a property tax deduction, that is extremely, extremely important part of the social fabric of america, not to be done away with lightly at all. Liz what do you think, ben . Do you think you get tax cuts by thanksgiving, do you think well see it . No, i dont think so. Liz by the end of the year . Possibly but mr. Trump, i like him a lot but he is skating on such thin ice in terms of his own party and democrat party, it is very difficult for him to get everything done. Well have to as usual look to our ownselves and look to our own, i may say so, our own Investment Priorities and skill and intelligence and spending to get us through. I dont think we can look to government to bail yous out. Liz ben stein, author of the capitalist code. Pleasure. Liz netflix will end house of cards after six season amid claims against star kevin spacey. Lennar will create the largest homebuilder in u. S. Lennar closed down. Cal atlantic closed up 20 . Do you taking dip over Corporate Tax cut concerns think could be phased in. Here with more is lori rothman on the floor of new york stock exchange. Stocks are on track for pretty solid gains for the month of october. Halloween is the last trading day of the month. The dow on track as of today, up 4 for the month. Now, stocks came under pressure late this morning when reports came out that the house was considering a fiveyear phasein plan for Corporate Tax cuts, to bring Corporate Tax rates down to 20 by 2022. At closing bell, the dow was off 85 points to finish at 23,348. Notable movers, amazon added 1 after last weeks best performance in 2 1 2 years. Liz, back to you. Liz thank you, lori. We have a new report says the Obama Campaign may have a connection to that refuted antitrump dossier. Well show you how. We have this story for you, the Paul Manafort charges do not mention word russian meddling, russian collusion or the Trump Campaign at all. Sources say more individuals are likely in the sites of special counsel Robert Mueller. Governor Mike Huckabee will weigh in on that next. Six in the morning. She thought it was a fire. It was worse. A sinkhole opened up under our museum. Eight priceless corvettes had plunged into it. Chubb was there within hours. They helped make sure it was safe. We had everyone we needed to get our museum back up and running, and we opened the next day. The flu, and its complications, needs to hear it. Can be deadly. Especially for those with a chronic medical condition. Ask your Health Care Provider for a senior flu shot. Do it today. Before the flu becomes an emergency. Or a little internet machine . It makes you wonder shouldnt we get our phones and internet from the same company . Thats why Xfinity Mobile comes with your internet. You get up to 5 lines of talk and text at no extra cost. So all you pay for is data. See how much you can save. Choose by the gig or unlimited. Xfinity mobile. A new kind of network designed to save you money. Call, visit, or go to xfinitymobile. Com. Liz as weve been reporting former Trump Campaign chair Paul Manafort and his associate rick gates pleaded not guilty to 12 counts on Money Laundering dating back to 2006. Manafort bail set at 10 million. Five million for gates. President trump tweeting about these latest developments. Sorry this, is years ago before Paul Manafort was part of the Trump Campaign. Why arent crooked hillary and the dems the focus . There is are is no collusion. Does he have a point . The indictment doesnt mention collusion, or trump or the Trump Campaign. Mike huckabee is Fox News Contributor and host of the new tbn show, huckabee. Good to see you. Thank you, liz. Good to be here. Im glad im not under indictment today. That is good news for me today. Liz why hire a Paul Manafort, rick gates or George Papadopoulos in the first place . Why have them near your campaign . Paul man fort was a good choice, worked in the gerald ford, ronald reagan, and george w. Bush 41. He understood the how to get to the convention t was logical choice, given that donald trump didnt have political experience. He was worried making sure some of the republicans who didnt like donald trump were kept from stealing the nomination from him at the convention. So that is why paul was brought on. It was a good choice. How would donald trump know something that Paul Manafort might have been in . If it was hidden from the irs and fbi from all those other people . I dont think donald trump would have knowledge of it. I think that is what the president was making his point today in his tweet. Is that this happened before Paul Manafort came. Had nothing to do with the campaign. Nothing to do with donald trump. The two things that it reveals, number one, there is real good money in lobbying for foreign governments. And the second thing it reveals, if you do make that kind of money lobbying for foreign governments, it would be pretty is that right to pay taxes and report it and register as foreign lobbiest. Liz the indictment shows for now that Paul Manafort did not commit any crimes on behalf of the Trump Campaign. Senator dianne feinstein, james clapper, even president jimmy carter does not think there was collusion. Both democrats and republicans got help from russia, right, in some way . You had the fusion gps payments via from that law firm. That basically had a dnc counsel, a guy known in democrat circles who ran that law firm. The sad irony, issue here, democrats were as willing to work with russians to get information and they were slicker about it and used middlemen and now hid the payments. It is coming to the surface now. Go ahead, governor . You made a very important point. The the per perkins cois law firm. This is important point i hope mueller was going after. Was the fake dossier, a totally false document. Was that the basis for even looking into phone calls of manafort and other election people, campaign people, in the Trump Campaign . If it was, then i think somebody has got to answer for having created a false basis for surveillance. Because that might get all of these people off the hook, if the basis opinion which they were surveiled turns out to be utterly phony and bogus and dishonest and illegal. Liz governor, we just had Alan Dershowitz on. He was talking about how Robert Mueller are trying to get man that for the. Maybe gates and papadopoulos flipped on others in the campaign and go after trump. To your point the russians are playing both sides of the political aisle. The real story is russian activity on social media, poisoning the voters thinking about the campaigns. Go ahead. Well, i think thats true. They play all sides. Theyre looking at it from their interests, not ours. There is no indication, no evidence at all, that russian involvement changed one single persons vote or had any impact on the outcome of the election. That is very important to keep in mind. The second thing is, i think americans need to be a little careful about getting too high and mighty about foreign involvement. The Obama Campaign spent several Million Dollars and sent their best obama operatives to try to get Benjamin Netanyahu defeated in the for Prime Minister of israel. To prevend were too pure for that and not only hypocritical but laughably off the mark. I hear people beating their chest how terrible the russians are trying to get involved, and i agree it is terrible. It is also for america and the u. S. Government over self hundred thousand dollars of taxpayer money, several millions of dollars private money trying to influence the Prime Minister election in israel back in 2014. Liz that is really important point you just made. I quickly, i know we have to go to break. Governor, mark elias, he is a partner at that law firm, that took that money from the dnc and also now the Obama Campaign, well get to more on that in a moment. The Obama Campaign gave this law firm money. Dnc, Hillary Campaign gave this law firm the money. Mark elias, he was general counsel for the hillary for america campaign. He has a long pedigree in democrat circles. He is dnc, was counsel there. He worked for john kerry, al franken, on and on this. Is a law firm that was middleman digging up dirt with the fake, refuted, with the salacious claims against President Trump t has been called by fake by people on republican side. Go ahead, governor. Proctor gamble doesnt have enough soap to make it clean. Lets face it, politics is a sleazy business and a lot of sleazy people get involved. There is some really nasty, dirty stuff that goes on and that is why im saying there is not enough soap in america to wash it off. Why a lot of people hate it. And frankly, if the one thing that could come from all of this is maybe just a cleaner approach, that would be great but, dont bet on it. Liz well were talking soap and politics with governor huckabee. Good to see you, governor. I love your analogies and metaphors. So visual and please cam back soon. Catch governor huckabee on his new talk show on huckabee on tbn. 8 00 p. M. Eastern time. Seven central time. Good to see you, governor. Come back soon. Thank you, liz. Liz were in 8th week of the nfl protest. Players on the Houston Texans protesting after the owner made negative comments. We have that story for you. Again were getting to the new report that the Obama Campaign now has a financial connection to the refuted antitrump file. Well have that story for you next. Often reveals a better path forward. At wells fargo, its our expertise in finding this kind of insight that has lead us to become one of the largest investment and Wealth Management firms in the country. Discover how we can help find your unlock. Youre searching for something. Whoooo. Like the perfect deal. On the perfect hotel. So wouldnt it be perfect if. There was a single site. Where you could find the. Right hotel for you at the best price . There is. Because tripadvisor now compares. Prices from over 200 booking. Sites. To save you up to 30 . On the hotel you want. Trust this birds words. Tripadvisor. The latest reviews. The lowest prices. Liz got this story for you. According to the federal election commission, former president Barack Obamas official Campaign Organization directed nearly a Million Dollars to the same law firm that funneled money to that firm that dug up the negative antitrump information in that famous antitrump file. It is called fusion gps. They were paid by this law firm. This basically, this file was filled with unverified and salacious comments about President Trump. President trump tweeting today, report out that Obama Campaign paid 873,000 to fusion gps via the law firm. The law firm got 12. 4 million, really . From the dnc. Nobody knows who okayed it. Mere is the timeline. Obama for america paid 972,000 to perkins coie. They then retain fusion gps to dig up dirt about then candidate donald trump. They hire former british spy, christopher steele. Steele builds up the refuted antitrump file. Lawyers for steele admitted that the work was unverified, never meant to be made public. Comey briefed trillion about the comments, even though the Obama Campaign, Hillary Campaign, paid for it. We have president of Citizens United david bossie. What do you think for all of this . Now the Obama Campaign linked to this report . It is an amazing day. On both sides. Paul manafort, rick gates indictment and continuous roll out of information who was paying the Perkins Law Firm and what money of that, that they were getting was being used to pay fusion. Now what really is interesting is that the dnc and the leadership of the dnc today and in prior chairman claims no knowledge. No one inside of the Obama Campaign has any knowledge. It is just, no one knows who did it but we do know it was done. Liz so the democrats seem to be slicker than the republicans about stuff like this. Well liz you have worked on political opposition. I remember you when you were working on whitewater. You had the whitewater document. Sure. Liz about Hillary Clinton. Hillary clinton said you reported out a vast rightwing conspiracy. Were these payments legal . First of all, there is nothing that in their appearance that makes them illegal. It is what the democrats were doing and of course, mark elias, who is one of the partners at the Perkins Law Firm, was sitting with john podesta when john podesta was asked about these payments. And he claimed not to know anything about fusion. So mark elias is in the room when that is being asked. Obviously he is is a lawyer in the room but there is more questions about the democrats and about the democrats intentions. Liz that is not just any lawyer. Mark elias worked for the dnc as a counsel. He worked for the Hillary Campaign as a lawyer. He worked for john kerry and al franken. He is known in democrat circles, right. He is well, highly regarded across all Party Platforms and been used by everyone. And so its a little surprising he seems to be mixed up in this. We will learn in the coming days exactly what the Perkins Law Firm was doing, and maybe not in the coming days. This may take congressional investigations, unless there seems to be any criminality. And if there is, then of course the department of justice or mueller could do it. Liz hang on a second. We dont know, again, we dont know whether this file was used to do surveillance on the trump tower and trump team. David, boys sy, we have to leave it there, good stuff. Anytime. Liz this story for you. Tmobile shares and sprint falling because the softbank pulled the plug of a merger between the two carriers. According to japanese yaw report that they could have created a stronger competent for tore verizon and at t. Basically whole spheres of telecom. That looks like it could be in abeyance right now. Well have more after the break. Dont go away. Youll get clear, actionable alerts about potential Investment Opportunities in real time. Fidelity. Open an account today. 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Secretary of state Rex Tillerson and secretary of Defense James Mattis testifying before the Senate ForeignRelations Committee and military strategy and authorized use of force in light of all this lets look at how defense stocks. Lockheed martin ended day in the green. Raytheon, l 3 tech ending in the red. We have former congressman retired colonel allen west. Good to be with you, liz. Liz mattis and tillerson gave opening statements, 2001 and 2000 two authorization of military force said it should not be repealed. What do you think. Well, good to be with you again. I think when i listen to those senators, maybe they should be not taking 30 to 40 day vacations in middle of summer or take Christopher Columbus week when it is oneday holiday. They should ask the generals and those Combatant Commanders to come brief them on these things. If you sit on Armed Services committee in the house, you should know of all the military operations going on. Shame on the senators for not knowing. As far as the authorization for use of military force, it needs to be expanded. It needs to be reviewed. It needs to have a new one because, when you look at battle field now, global Islamic Jihad movement, first and foremost this, is not just about al qaeda. We have al qaeda in the mag greg. We have the Islamic State and boko haram and al that bab. All new machinations of she haweddest groups not present 15 or 16 years ago. We need the opportunity to go back to make sure we understand the battle field and how were authorizing and allocating our forces. Colonel, you made a good point about the members of congress seeming surprised by the level of military commitment in niger. We have 800 people in niger. President Obamas Administration authorized that. First off, do we need that many . Some of these elected officials have oversight of the military. How come they didnt know. Well that is my point. Like i said, i sat on the Armed Services committee in the house. So those senators that sit on the Armed Services committee, they should have their staffers making sure theyre wellbriefed on these things. When youre off on vacation all the time, youre not getting appropriate amount of briefing. Same on them for that. The other thing is, we have so start understanding what the battle field layout is. When you start going up against we cant continue with strategy of playing whackamole, liz. We have to be able to go to be proactive, denying the enemy the sanctuary they are seeking to have. Look what is happening in iraq where iranian general is leading the iraqi army and Shiite Militia against the kurds, who help us defeat the Islamic State. I wouldnt be surprised to see a senator come up and say they didnt know about that this battle is changing. We need our troops in the right locations to deny the enemy ability to move freely. Liz colonel west, thank you for being here. My pleasure. Liz a montana company, Whitefish Holdings was rewarded with restoring power after two destructive hurricanes. The deal drawing scrutiny despite having only two workers from the same town as secretary ryan zinke. Fbi is investigating. 70 of puerto rico is still without power. Next up the president and first lady will be participating in the white house halloween celebration in a few minutes. We have it covered for you. We are in the 8th week of the nfl protest. The majority of Houston Texans players took a knee during the National Anthem to protest comments made by the teams owner. Well have that story for you next. Dont go away. beeping were on to you, diabetes. Times up, insufficient prenatal care. And administrative paperwork, your days of drowning people are numbered. Same goes for you, budget overruns. And rising costs, wipe that smile off your face. Were coming for you too. At optum, were partnering across the Health System to tackle its biggest challenges. Liz now to the nfl anthem protests. We are now in the 8th week of these protests of the latest Houston Texans players kneeling for the National Anthem ahead of its sunday game against the Seattle Seahawks. Marks the first time texans have protested as a team. This after the teams owner, Robert Mcnair causing a firestorm of controversy for saying quote, we can not, we can not have the inmates running the prison. Now on the opposite sidelines, several members of the Seattle Seahawks could also be seen sitting on the bench during the anthem. Now this, nfl beat reporters, guys, reporters and journalists that cover the nfl, noting lack of game attendance again, posting pictures of twitter of empty stadium seats during this weekends games. One reporter saying, cincinnati you have halloween figured out with all the fans dressed up as empty seats. Lets bring in patrice lee from the independent womens forum, we have democrat strategist danielle mcglocklin. Will 2017 be the year as the nfl an them protest. The left has done a good job of using race in sports to divide the nation. Keeping people in always state of looking to be offended by something. You know certainly the owners comments were regrettable and unfortunate but at the same time this, is a man who certainly worked towards uplifting poor communities. Spending tens of millions of dollars 30 years over his foundation. I think a lot of players need to put their money where their mouth is, rather than continuing to push away people who are paying their paychecks. Liz there is a bottom line implication. Espn insider writing in the hollywood reporter, that some espn executives are considering letting espns contract end with the nfl in 2021. Disney closed down the red less than a percent. Danielle, would that be a good move or bad move for espn . At the end of the day, liz, this is all about money. It is up to espn to figure out what the shareholders want to do, what is the strategy going forward. James murdoch said recently this might be too much football. Supply and demand issue. Were seeing yearoveryear decreases, more in ad revenue, maybe there is too much out there sitting aside issues with political protests. Carrying over controversy with Houston Astros first baseman given a fivegame suspension in 2018. He made a racist gesture in the dougout friday night. What is your reaction to this. This, he was using childish antics to get back at another player who happens to be japanese. This guy is coming from cuba, where apparently this type of behavior is usual. This would be real funny to rile him up. A lot of people didnt think it was funny. A lot of people of asian descent, it is part of the game. It is, sad that he is doing it but it is not a big deal. I think again, just example how race is dragged back into sports as a way to divide people. As a way to divide fans. Liz patrice, danielle, youll be back with us. Were taking a live look at the president and first lady hosting a halloween event at the white house, opening south lawn to children from 20 schools in the d. C. , maryland, virginia areas. Those from military families and Community Organizations for trickortreating. The president and first lady handing out treats like president ial m ms. Staying on the story. Cute stuff at the white house. This story for you. Political correctness gone haywire again. Now a church in virginia removing a black honoring George Washington. Well get reaction on that next. Lan and see what we can do. Ok, so weve got. Well listen. Well talk. Well plan. Baird. I had severe fatigue, went to a doctor. Became diagnosed with hodgkins lymphoma. I had to put my trust in somebody. We recommended chemotherapy, and then a stem cell transplant. 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Liz the swamp may not be drained or may be drained by the president but the white house is strewn with spiders, bats and cobwebs. President and first lady giving out trick or treats. Not even hollywood yet. President and Melania Trump giving out candy to children dressed up for halloween. Liz leaders of a Historic Church in the building, removing two plaques, one honoring George Washington. The other honoring robert e. Lee. The reason . They say it creates a distraction in the space. This on the heels of protests removing confederate stout tuesday from around the country. Former nba Charles Barkley says outrage over statues and plaques is waist of time. Im not going to waist my time trying to worry about these statues they have got all over the country. Im 54 years old. I have never thought about those statues a day in my life. I never, i think if you asked most black people, they are being honest, never thought a day in their life about those stupid statues. Liz back with me, the political panel. Patrice lee and danielle mcglocklin. Youre a democratic strategist. What do you think of his comments . I think i understand what he is saying. A couple plaques were there almost since the end of the civil war. The question of the statues not when they were put up but why . Liz why take down George Washington . Taking George Washington off the dollar bill . I dont think that will happen. They were put up to celebrate and memorialize war dead. It was not reinforcing idea of slavery or trying to revisit civil war. Happened in the jim crow civil rights era. We can get a bit crazy here. Liz what do you think, pat trees . It is ironic. He was one of the founders of his church. His money spent on a pew is being tossed out of window. I wonder for the people claim they are aggrieved, are they there for religious experience or safe experience . Or are they there because they want to try to stir something up . I mean i think, it is hard to say it for us to just remove all the statues and al these plaques that will remedy past ills. Like surpassing a bad memory. It doesnt deal with the underlying issue. We need to teach lessons, learn from the past than try to erase as it didnt exist. Liz these plaques are more than history. President washington frequently attended mass at church as did lee and many others. Money was donated to the church to help begin the parishs endowment fund. Does this change the argument about these plaques . They should have been removed, historic figures went to this church, danielle . They were congregants. These plaques were put on at end of civil war. I think they were there to memorialize these two important historical figures, however you feel about them. I think is is overreach. Up to the congregation i think this taking it too far. Liz President Trump asked the question where does it stop removal of confederate statues. Where does it stop . I dont think it does. Continue to look through history to find president s who have, are unpopular, particularly those who are republicans. And i think that is where it is going to to continue to go. At end of the day it does no one good, especially young people that need to learn from the past or remedy issues or injustices that have been done to people. Liz pat trees, danielle, thanks for your time. We appreciate it. Well have more news after the break. Well be right back. Dont go away. Whoooo. Youre searching for something. Like the perfect deal. On the perfect hotel. So wouldnt it be perfect if. There was a single site. Where you could find the. Right hotel for you at the best price . There is. Because tripadvisor now compares. Prices from over 200 booking. Sites. To save you up to 30 . On the hotel you want. Trust this birds words. Tripadvisor. The latest reviews. The lowest prices. Chevy, chevy, chevy trucks. 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