Island. A lot of people, jeff, are on the move and trying to get somewhere. How are things where you are . Do you hear me okay . I can tell you are on the line with us. How are things where you are . Geoff are you talking to me . Connell we had him, then we lost him. Florida braces for the storm. You are with us, right, scott in jeff, tell us about the evacuations. I know they have already begun. Are there any issues coming up . How are things going . We did it systematically. Monroe county went first and dade second. We are asked if people refuse to vac wait will they be arrested or forced out much their homes. Nobody is going to get arrested and we wont force anybody from their homes. The wind speeds consistently at 45 miles an hour, we wont be dispatching firefighters or Police Officers and we wont be answering calls. Well put our folks in danger of any more than they are already. At 45 miles an hour its not safe for them to drive. They could get injured. If you dont want to be a victim, dont behave like a victim and evacuate. Connell do you see this latest track of the storm . To see it now, it looks like the entire florida peninsula is in the track. It seems like it leans to the left. The last briefing i had, thats what was displayed. Im not a weather person. At this point i dont think it matter. South florida will be impacted. We should have broken the huddle. Get children where they need to be. Know what we are going to do with our pets. If we are going to evacuate we should know our loop. The plans need to be in operation. All the best to you, thanks for checking in with us tonight. Let me go with jeff flock who covered so many of these hurricanes. Hes traveling tonight and does join us by telephone. How are things where you are. Does this one feel different . Geoff well, its still a ways out. We still dont know exactly where its going to go. It seems certain it will be until. Im traveling on 1. The one that goes from the keys to maine. The problem is people getting enough gas to go where they need to go. A lot of gas stations are shut down. If you dont get gas, you dont get out. There are a lot of people in south florida, some would like to leave, and have yet to leave, and other people say they are going to stay. Connell no matter what you say and no matter would you do, as big as this storm is, there is always people like that. So many times we have erred in the past when we talk about the storms that dont come to that. You look at a week out. The forecast errors are huge at that level. So people maybe have been inconvenienced. But when a big pun comes along. Maybe you make the wrong choice. Connell how is the traffic where you are . Its not bad. I am pretty far south on route 1. Reporting from day tona tomorrow. Its rough up that way. Connell well see you from there tomorrow. The mayor is coming up to join us as well. What about the issues that have come up. Whether its gas shortages or people trying to do the same thing. We do not have a gas shortage. We have plenty of petroleum to service our residents in Broward County. The issue we have is the complacency. People feel like the storm is not going to hit us. And some are not taking this seriously. This storm is larger than hurricane andrew and wilma and they caused severe devastation to the state of florida. Im urging all residents who are in track was zones to please leave now. We have people evacuating from the florida keys. There is approximately a million cars in addition on the roads. We are asking our Broward County residents to get where they need to to be safe and do it now. Connell are you running into resistance . Yes. People are watching the predictions and thinking they can get on the road saturday and thats not the case. Connell there are not many ways to go north in florida. No, there is not. We are having difficulty getting our taker trucks to our ports because people are waiting until the last minute. This is about protecting the public from themselves at this point. They need to follow the directions, heed the warnings. Evacuate the way we asked them to. This is about being calm and preparing. People want to wait until last minute and we are saying please dont do that at this time. Appreciate it this evening. We have another big story we are covering and its President Trump and the democrats. But we have new comments. They are just in a brandnew interview with mitch mcconnell, the speaker of the house. Martha where was it you were furious . Im not furious. I think for the credit markets we need to have longevity on these things. But i understand why hes doing what hes doing. Martha are you concerned when he talks to senator schumer about doing away with the debt ceiling vote that hes looking for a new coalition. Hes frustrated with the Republican Leadership and says im going to look around the room and see who i can work with. Its natural for the president to be speaking with leaders from other parties. Connell that entire interview will air on her program the story in the next hour on the fox news channel. But lets talk about it with ned ryun. Paul ryan is the subject, but do we believe hes not frustrated with the deal the president cut with the democrats . Ned the gop leadership has shown itself to be legislatively incompetent this year. Trump had to assert himself. I kind of like the move, connell. I think its telling when mark meadows, the leader of the Freedom Caucus essentially gave trump a pass to trike a deal on the debt ceiling saying its was he believes in trump wants to focus on tax reform. Hes realigning the legislative agenda between now and the end firefighter year. They are going to get tax reform done then deal with the debt ceiling in december. These profiles in political courage. They wont want to debate and vote on raising the debt ceiling 2018. They are going to want to deal with it in 2017. They may not want to debate that ever again. I have always wondered this. A lot of people have. Even covering financial news. Why do we even have a debt ceiling. Its a dance we go through every so often. Now Chuck Schumer and the president are talking about getting rid of it forever. Ned that makes me nervous. I hit my debt ceiling before. Connell my point is we already spent the money. We have to raise it and Everybody Knows that. So yes, of course we want to control spending. But this isnt the way to do it. I understand your point. I know every year we hit the same battle. We have to be realistic. We run checks and balances. I dont trust the government to have no debt ceiling. It makes me really nervous. I agree with you. You have to have something in place to remind people we dont have unlimited resources. At some point i understand that. We are also dealing with the big problem. When you have 20 trillion in debt its a spending problem. Connell a company equifax, a consumer Monitoring Company reported a gigantic cyber breach. We known gigantic. 143 Million Consumers in the United States might have been impacted. Social security numbers may have been exposed. Quick reaction on the phone. When you have a country of 320 mill people and 143 million may have been impacted you wonder how that happened. This is not the first warning shot we have ever heard here. Its reminiscent of 015 when the opm was breached where you have security clearance and other information. To me a breach like this is about the quality of the data that was potentially breached as well as the quantity that make it powerful. Connell requires unbelievable. Its just break. It will impact the stock and maybe much more. I know when i hand them the keys to their first car its gonna be scary. 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A dell advisor can help you choose the right products with powerful intel® core™ processors. Connell back to Hurricane Irma for a moment. There is a briefing in florida featuring the governor rick scott. We were talking to officials about the evacuations. Our producers in the control room will keep an eye on this. But lets get to the track of the storm. A little over an hour ago we saw a change in that. Rick reichmuth is all over that. Rick we did see a shift in the track a little bit west. Just because we saw that doesnt mean it will stay that way. All of south florida is under a hurricane watch. There is a lot of population in this area. In the short term the turks and caicos getting pummeled by this storm heading into dark. They will have the storm come through in the dark. Well see probably a complete washover of a lot of these islands with waves 45 feet on top of a storm surge. Rainfall, take a look at this, the storm stays organized the next 36 hours or so. It will go over really warm water. The warmest water it will have gone over in it lifespan. So the temperatures in the upper 80s, pushing90 degrees. Thats a lot of fuel. The euro model made a big jog to the south and then west. Out of deference to this model it stays on the peninsula of florida. Bad news for florida. But with all the models that came up, the forecast was moved off to the west. We have a lot of confidence. But when you have a reliable model shifting to the west, they Pay Attention to it a little bit. We generally say dont look at the center of the track. Anywhere to the right of it is where the worst of the conditions will be. If this model verifies. That puts a lot of water into the miami area and homestead, fort lauderdale. This would be the worse case scenario. Other thing i want to tell you about. Yesterday cat 5 storm irma went through the Leeward Island of the islands. The forecast right here in the cone is barbuda. So insult to injury in a horrible way. Carroll how far behind is jose . Rick five days behind it. That island that just got devastated. All that loose debris in the area, homes and trees that are weakened. Now another hurricane going over that same spot. All of that wind with all that degree is a frightening situation. Connell there is new developments on russias involvement in the election. Well tell you why facebook is coming under fire. Well be right back. Push High Commission investment products, Fisher Investments avoids them. Some advisers have hidden and layered fees. Fisher investments never does. And while some advisers are happy to earn commissions from you whether you do well or not, Fisher Investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. Maybe thats why most of our clients come from other money managers. Fisher investments. Clearly better money management. Dicaller my husbandhescy. Having trouble breathing. First responders hear it a lot. And everyone age 65 and older needs to hear it, too. 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It shows i guess that russia was willing to try to influence the election, it does not show whether it worked. But what about facebooks side. Did they have responsibility to know who wants to bite advertising . Nothing so far has shown russia was able to influence the election except after the election russia has sown discord. An ad buy of 100,000 is bad news for facebook. This bad for facebook because it shows russian involvement in 2017. But the problem with facebook is when 100,000 in ad buys get by you you dont mind because a monopoly. Connell if i wants an ad on my Facebook Page i put one up myself basically. I want to show some numbers so people know why what story like this is important. Facebook in particular, pew came out with these numbers today that show the majority of adults get their news from social media. A little bit higher than it was last year. Facebook is the behemoth. Its much bigger than twitter, instagram, snapchat, linkedin. Facebook way above twitter. They are influential. It creates issues whether this is real news, fake news, whatever it may be. Anyone out there watching know if you spend 100,000 with facebook you will have a hard time getting them to return your phone calls. They are a monopoly. But 100,000 wompt a worth of as know you have to hit someone 5, 6, 7 times for a few weeks influence them. But facebook controls so much information that they can change what you get to see as a news consumer. Connell so sit could goat other way. Some of you may have seen this online. There are reports of price gouge. Some severe price gouging in some cases in the state of florida ahead of irma. Ah, my poor mouth breather. Allergies . Stuffy nose . Cant sleep . Enough. Take that. A breathe right nasal strip of course. Imagine just put one on and pow it instantly opens your nose up to 38 more than allergy medicine alone. So you can breathe, and sleep. Better than a catnap. Shut your mouth and say goodnight, mouthbreathers. Breathe right. 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People waiting to last minute, wont have a problem. Roads are open. Gas stations are shut down. One or two you find a little bit of gas of the for the most part those are done as well. A lot of people here for andrew, few still around, they will tell tough decision whether or not to stay. Take a listen. Probably one of the largest ones weve seen a long time. Those that you worry about. It is good everybody took time to get away. Not everybody is stuck and has problems. Reporter business side of things we havent heard any pricegouging. Its a Small Community in the keys. People know each other. We ran a couple places where credit card machines worked fine. They are only taking cash. People were frustrated at gas station. Everyone that wanted out, did get out. People are still here, that are, again waiting to the last minute waiting for last track. Connell always a few wait to the last minute. The pricegouging issue has come up a lot, maybe not there, across the state of florida, a number of complaints about pricegouging. Amazon denying claims it is gouging online. There are customer reports of packages, water, 25 bucks, buying it in florida. 18. 50 in the northeast, so higher. Airlines, some capped their costs on flights in the area. Other carriers are coming under fire hiking prices big time. Jetblue, delta, frontier made headlines for cutting prices, so people could evacuate quickly. The Florida Attorney general has been all over today, pam bondi, was on with us earlier on fox business. Setting up a hotline going hard against anybody caught pricegouging. It may sound familiar. We heard it from Texas Attorney general ken paxton. He joins us right now. Good to see you again talking about your state but also about florida. Could you do me a favor, give us a Legal Definition probably differs state to state, what pricegouging is, when it is a crime . Well, so, in our state it is civil penalty but it is will vary from state to state. Texas very similar other states, were looking for 10 price differentials. There are Natural Market fluctuations with gas. Were trying to, were legitimate when were looking at this stuff. If we see hotels triple in price, we know that is pricegouging. We see water go up five or 10 times that, is pricegouging. We see obvious ones. Were about to File Lawsuits in several cases. Connell you are . Which industries to do you see it most, abused the worst . We had 3,000 complaints. Well have different types of pricegouging as re tore race of homes comes on line. Were looking charitable contributions. Water, fuel, food, generators, linings like that. The ones were pursuing are obvious. Most people agree it is pricegouging. Connell not so obvious chairmannable contributions what are the issues . Not so much pricegouging. Were interested in false charities. Not pricegouging, Fake Charities coming on board. Giving to the wrong charities. Connell a huge issue, isnt it . A lot of attention, Great Charity from all we heard from the j. J. Watt thing. Got a lot of attention. That looks great where some other dont. Were encouraging people before you give, check them out. Make sure theyre legit. They existed for a while. You have a reference that makes sense. We dont want people giving to something that is not legit. Connell let me ask you this finally. If there is issue prices go up, gas prices for example. You have to have a little leeway for supply and demand if they cant get product . Absolutely. Were not being ridiculous here. Were talking about going after gas stations that maybe raised it to 10 a gallon. That is not normal price fluctuation. Based on we have plenty of supply, that is pricegouging. If it went up 2. 39 to 2. 75 that were not pursuing that. It has to be significant price fluctuations. Connell good luck to you. We appreciate you coming on. Ken paxton on texas. Appreciate it. Connell the Associated Press is reporting on this u. S. Appeals court, ninth circuit rejecting the Trump Administration limited view allowed into the country under a travel ban. That is a loss in the ninth circuit for the Trump Administration. Goes back to the hawaii case had been debated out there towards end of last month. Josh black man, Southwestern College law professor, Cato Institute adjunct scholar. Your thoughts on the breaking story. It has been a while. Your thoughts on the travel ban. Thanks for having me back. This is not much of a surprise. I dont think anyone in the ninth Circuit Court of appeals would rule in favor of Trump Administration. They havent yet. They cant deny entry of grandparents, brotherinlaw, sisterinlaw of u. S. Persons. Additional refugees, have assurances from various settlement agencies have to be allowed into the country. This is defeat for the Trump Administration. The only question how long the defeat lasts. Next month we go to the Supreme Court. Connell if you can go backwards a little bit on. I said it has been a while since we talked about the travel ban. There is a limited ban, right, in place . Refresh peoples memory on that. There was a request here for exemptions to that. Can you explain it a little bit further . Absolutely. Back in june and july, Supreme Court ruled that the Trump Administration can not enforce the travel ban as to close relatives. Connell right. The Supreme Court didnt define who a close relative was. So the Trump Administration came out, said that applies to mother, father, sister, brother, son, daughter, right, close relatives. But grandma and grandpa were not covered. The plaintiff notice hawaii case challenged that, saying grandma, grandpa, aunt, uncle, those are close relatives. They appealed up to the court. The courts in california and hawaii said thats right. That a grandmother, grandfather, brotherinlaw, sisterinlaw, aunts, niece, nephews cousin are all close relatives. If you have a grandma and grandpa in syria, she can not be subject to the travel ban. Connell whatever you think, your political point the ninth circuit has never been a friend of the president. That is a fair point. Well be right back. More coverage. Breaking story out of the ninth circuit out west. We have more on it when we come back. Up, insufficient prenatal care. And administrative paperwork. Your days of drowning people are numbered. Same goes for you, budget overruns. And rising costs, wipe that smile off your face. Were coming for you, too. For those who wont rest until the world is healthier, neither will we. Optum. How well gets done. Its time for the biggest sale of the year with the new sleep number 360 smart bed. It senses your every move and automatically adjusts on both sides to keep you effortlessly comfortable. And snoring. Does your bed do that . The new 360 smart bed is part of our biggest sale of the year where all beds are on sale. 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Im talking obviously about gary cohn and other people. If you dont like what he is doing, you dont agree with it, you have an obligation to resign. So gary cohn should have resigned . Absolutely. Connell there you go, steve bannon with charlie rose in the interview saying the president s top Economic Advisor should step down, gary cohn. The question for us what would happen on wall street if he did do that . Steve cortes, fox news contributor. Spokesman for the hispanic 100. Steve, there was talk about when gary cohn was thinking about stepping down, he decided to stay on, that might upset the markets. What do you think . It is possible, colin, the more important point or couple of points, one it is very clear, steve bannon made it very clear he intend to support the president from the outside. This isnt a renegade. This isnt somebody left the white us engaging in kissandtell by any stretch. Quite the opposite. He wants to promote the president s agenda. With gary cohn to answer your question, everyone that serves the president , this is a principle. Everyone has their lane. Only the president occupies all lanes no matter what the policy. When i come to gary cohn i have a lot of respect for him, his lane is tax reform. What he says about other issues, charlottesville, supports independence from the white house or even veiled criticism of the president , im not sure that matters a lot as long as connell here is what i would say. It could matter in couple ways. One i already mentioned, you could disagree, it could affect markets, if it did, im sure it would be short term im sure. It could affect mr. Cohns future, if he staying there, wants to be fed chairman, that seems less likely, right . Thats possible and frankly im not herbert of that decision. But what i do know is this, his major task, he said this publicly, his major task is to get transformational tax reform through congress. Connell youre right. If he does that, the rest of it becomes noise in my opinion. Connell same for the president , if he does that, a lot of people forgive a lot more. That is the big thing now so. By the way to the president s credit, donald trump gets criticized so unfair so often by the Mainstream Media and particularly by the liberal media, he is known as a man that doesnt tolerate dissent, gary cohn is exhibit a he encouragings a team of rivals. Again i dont care a ton as ardent trump supporter, i dont care a ton what gary cohn thinks about daca or other issues. I care that he marshals, gets tax reform over the goal line. If he does that, if he does that he succeeds and the country succeeds. Connell thanks for coming on tonight. We have to get back to the hurricanes. Irma is working its way through the caribbean. It is bearing down on florida. This track we received earlier today. It tells us as much. Well have more on the Weather Center next. So we need tablets installed. 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Our job is to decipher this, which models we like, they dont all behave the same. Show you another one in a second. Here is irma, south of turks and caicos. That is kind of the worst side of this. Were getting the worst of the storm surge. The waves on top of it has to be scary, scary time. Last time i was on i showed you european model, which is model we like bet unfortunately than the american model. The american model not quite as good in its model as european very often but latest run has come in, since i was on last. Take a look at this, this model has made a shift to the west. So that is boding worse, i will tell you here for south florida. We had been hoping it would take the track just off of the eastern shore. Still will be bad but maybe a little bit better along this coast here. Not saying this is what will happen. This is one of the model runs. But shifting farther towards the west. Potential hi bow well for georgia and carolinas if it stays over shore. If it stays on land, much worse news for pretty much all of florida. These are kind of grouping of models. You still see there are big variants here. The fact, two of our major models we look at, shifted farther to the west, why the National Hurricane center shifted to the west. If this comes across the keys here, if this does verify, it is going to push incredible amount of water here up in towards miami. Well see incredible flooding. That is flooding from the storm surge. If we still have the wind at cat4, maybe cat5 strength, it will cause a lot of problems. In short term, turks and caicos throughout the day in the bahamas, future radar, it sees incredibly organized. We would like it disrupted by something. The water here is incredibly warm, connell. It will take Something Else to disrupt this other than warm water. Were not seeing that. Connell we wait an hope for something, it is not coming, rick. Ii want to check in with juan perez, Miamidade Police department. I dont know if you listen to ricks report. These models could change, i hope everybody is listening to you and getting out of town, right . We hope for. This storm is scary. When we look at it i have never seen anything like it. It broke record on number of hours sustained 180 mileanhour winds or greater. Gusts up to 220. Weve been advising the mayor, been advising, mayor Carlos Jimenez is advising people evacuate certain areas vulnerable to the surge. Tonight and tomorrow will be a big day norfolks to evacuate out of miamidade. We expect this thing obviously right now. Were, hoping for the best, preparing for the worst. It looks like coming straight at us. Connell as a Police Department what do you actually do . How do you prepare . Where will you be . How long can you be operational for . What is your plan as a department . Weve gone through hurricanes before. I was, been on for 25 years. We were here in andrew. Learned a lot of lessons. Wilma took out power a lot of time. We prepare based on Lessons Learned but expecting the unexpected. The right now, way it is coming, whoever is working during the storm, once it impacts, they are on for quite some time. We expect 18 hours of hurricane winds. However is out this during that time, we will shelter them. We will mobilize. Well have plenty of personnel out there, but once hurricane storms hit, have to find shelter, bunker down and wait for winds to die down from the hurricanes force winds. 18 hours, plus Tropical Storm wind before, were expecting a, very long days and, you know, all hands on deck for us, for our Fire Department and our partners, other partners in haw enforcement. Connell all the best to you, obviously. Stay in touch, keep everybody updated. Talk to you again juan perez, miamidade with the Police Department there. President trump was today asked about north korea, and what he refused to say when asked, that ended up being headlines. Well talk about that next. Fisher investments avoids them. 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Can we accept a north korea that has Nuclear Weapons but is to the point of Major Garrett who asked the question contained . What is the nature of that containment . That is the issue. The u. N. Is talking about freeze, freeze. Kind of absurd moral equivalence. But on one hand theyre saying in the North Koreans can control all of the testing that would be one kind of freeze. Connell right. On the other side of the equation the United States would not engage in any kind of militaristic activity. That is kind of absurd. Connell how would you define it then . We heard containment for years in other contexts but is there a way to contain north korea . Only if there is appropriate verification. One of the difficulties you have for 25 years the North Koreans have been building tunnels under the ground. Connell right. Even with the recent launches that occurred, these were mobile launchers. Suppose you fire your tomohawks, do you know whether in fact you could reach the launchers . It is not at all clear. Connell no. Whether there is appropriate verification, investigators were permitted on north korean territory it is not likely. Connell say it is not, it probably isnt likely. Give me a better option. No one of the things you will do freeze all financial assets. Since were dealing with dollardenominated fund through asia, a lot of banks dealing with north korea will be frozen. In addition to that connell what will he do then, he being kim jongun. He will be strange you lated. Connell the guy on his last breath, he will not give up the nukes, is he. You cant be entirely sure of that one thing you deal with someone erratic and iraqal. Connell i dont know about that. You may be right. There is this also school of thought that he is quite rational, what happened to moammar can gadhafi or what happened to saddam hussein. That will be me no matter what. That is one scenario. The other scenario the chinese will decide well not provide food and fuel in this country, how do you set off nukes and dont have electricity and computers at your disposal. That is another interesting scenario. Connell because your back is against the wall. Very difficult to say. Connell why it is so complicated. Boy, i dont know. Your best bet what is next real quick . Best bet the United States will apply as much pressure as possible. There will be a lot of negotiations within the u. N. I think one dimension of this free is possible. Very fact that the russians and chinese can at least talk about that side of the equation is interesting. Connell good to talk to you tonight. Herb, thank you very much. Pleasure to be with you. Herb london on north korea. Thank you for all of us joining this evening. Connell mcshane reporting from new york on making making money. Well follow all the breaking news. Lou dobbs tonight on fox business is next. Lou good evening, everybody, were following two breaking news stories tonight. What may well be the storm of the century, Hurricane Irma, churning towards south florida with sustained 175 mileanhour wind, gusts reaching it 215 miles per hour. Irma approaching the tuesday, and Caicos Islands with full force after battering barbuda, the u. S. Virgin islands and puerto rico. Well have a full report on this deadly category 5 hurricane in just