Is called a dangerous separatist for some reason. Inhwat would like to ask you to describe the situation described above now. Yes, you are right. Unfortunately, for some reason beijing did not like the inaugural speech of the new president , exactly as you called him, called him. A separatist, because in fact china believes that the elections are new elections, as such, they can support them with this kind of intimidation, to actually start some kind of aggressive action, and of course it doesnt matter what our president says in his promo speech, its just that china is so determined, they want. China to join mainland china, and so they dont care, actually, who will become president. We would like to ask you about the situation that is happening now, after this inauguration took place, certain military maneuvers of china have intensified, and we actually understand that china very differently, sometimes declares its intentions, as he is going solve the socalled, socalled taiwan question, it can be initially. As well as his political statements, he does not rule out, i mean the head of the communist party xi jinping, he does not rule out any military attempts to solve this issue, how do people in taiwan react to such statements and how are the authorities preparing for a potential such a threat . Actually voted for the new president and this is already the third time, the third term, when a representative of this party actually becomes the president , i. E. The third such has not yet happened, i. E. Usually after two terms the people get tired of a particular party and vote for another candidate, but now it is clear that. Taiwanese people, they are satisfied with the government, that is, but all this also indicates that taiwanese people do not want any unification with mainland china. Taiwan must certainly strengthen its defense industry. Of course, just as the predecessor of the president started this initiative, they will, the current government will continue these. Peace, because peace cannot come, for example, as in hong kong, it is not exactly peace as such. Yes, we know that is the experience of hong kong, yes, which fell into the hands, so to speak, of the chinese communists, dear inhwat, we would like to ask you about chinas military maneuvers, this intimidation, how serious it is, and whether, for example, there is a feeling that beijing is preparing to possible. Serious military attempts to intimidate taiwan . As i mentioned, xijin ping, he has already repeated, repeated this narrative of unification with china, thats their goal, and he wont actually go off that track, because he thinks its a generational thing, and they even put some kind of framework until 2027. But the representatives from the us side say that they are really determined to move in this direction, so the threat is extremely great, but again, it cant be. Only xi jinping can decide everything, right . We know how important his relationship with putin is, but you see that even in this case, what one person wants does not always work, so we just have to prepare, prepare to coordinate our efforts together with our friends, so completely with you we agree, well but you mentioned putin and we understand that putin recently went to a meeting with xi jinping, yes in china. We understand that when russia launched a fullscale invasion of ukraine, moscowbeijing consultations were also taking place, and going back to the story about possible escalation, military escalation on the part of beijing, we understand that there may be some, i dont know, peaceful beijings plans or force whether there is diplomatic coercion to dialogue, but another story is the military scenario, how seriously. They are discussing the prospects a military force decision on the part of beijing, well, in particular, when we talk about different environments for taiwan . How seriously are the prospects of a possible military scenario considered in taiwan, so we understand that before the fullscale invasion of the russian. Federation into ukraine , consultations took place between beijing and moscow, but now, just a couple of days ago, the big tour of putin and his assistants to visit xi jinping ended , and we also understand that they could talk not only about russian aggression against ukraine, they could to try to reconcile their common vision, in particular with regard to taiwan, and thats how seriously prospects are discussed in various taiwanese circles. God forbid, of course, but a military scenario on the part of beijing, i want to say that of course there is a great deal of anxiety regarding the reaction to such meetings between putin and sisimpin. Yes, there are two countries in the world that are unhappy with the status quo, and they just want to change that status quo, so when they. Work together and rally together, its actually a very powerful threat, generally, to peace, not not only in the region, but also on a global scale, and that is why we clearly speak about it, as the position of, for example, our former president and the current one, that is, it continues, in particular , that china should support ukraine, maintain its solidarity. , because it is a threat, the threat of authoritarianism, yes, that is what taiwan is facing now. Mrs. Yeni, i also wanted to ask you about the role of the United States of america, because for us, for ukrainians, it is now our main donor, which helps us resist russian aggression, well, we also understand that taiwan has the support of the United States of america publicly, and how the government and people of taiwan are in general now. Refers to possible, i dont know, intervention or help from the United States in case china does dare to some military aggression against taiwan. Certainly taiwan would greatly appreciate any help we could get. Yes, unfortunately, we do not have such defense. Countries at the legislative level, so of course agreements that would be concluded with others are certain prescribed acts regarding mutual relations and military assistance to taiwan from the us, and i m sure youve heard about the Actual Development of these exercises, military exercises between the us military and the taiwanese military, but as i said, we understand that in this case. It is about a political decision, whether the us will intervene in any conflict that may break out in taiwan, in particular with its troops, or maybe in order to defend the taiwanese population, so we will welcome any help from the us, and in particular those decisions that congress and the president make, yes, i know that the people america, they want to support taiwan. Therefore , we will not only rely on our strength, yes, well, the key story, unfortunately, is not only the willingness of the American People to support taiwan, yes, well, but also the willingness of the american administration. And to do it in a military way, as far as we understand, during the inauguration of your president , the american representation was not too powerful, is it possible for us to do it like that in ukraine . Yes, of course, even if this delegation was not so big, we are in the garden we welcome such a delegation. Present during the inauguration, the people in taiwan are satisfied with the actual preservation of tradition, in particular the tradition, when the informal delegation arrived, of course we do not want somehow taiwan said that they can cooperate together in order to. Change the current the status quo, and i would also like to clarify what the situation is in the South China Sea, such as what, for example, the chinese navy is, how active they are, and when we talk about certain military provocations in air space . When we say, you mean , of course, china is provoking the situation in the strait between china and taiwan, so china has its territorial. And encroachment, they want to control the whole South China Sea in general, so in the last 20 years, china actually builds some artificial islands, is building their military bases there, and now they have actually built such a military force, and they want to show how aggressive they are, they are also encroaching on the philippines for. Threatening them in various ways, therefore, i think that they can deploy the same scenario in relation to taiwan, so they are moving in this direction in a certain sense, they are changing, unfortunately, this current state of affairs, yes, well, we understand that when the chinese do not only the chinese are trying to build artificial islands in such a way that they want to change the territorial waters. Yes, and as far as we understand, well, the situation with the philippines has its own specifics, but do you think the philippines are ready, for example, to support you, in particular, if they can start tensions or escalations . We know that the philippines is very clearly cooperating with the United States, they have laid new foundations. To the actual access, so that the American Army had access to them, and but they are quite so careful, especially when it comes to some certain promises or some clarification of the situation, unfortunately, it needs details, yes, australia, Great Britain are those countries that are increasingly involved in military exercises, together with the commonwealth. We thank her for the opportunity to communicate, to learn more about the situation, so close taiwan. How china is behaving, and actually, what taiwan is counting on in the event that china does dare to take any aggressive military actions towards taiwan. We are now going on a short break, after which we will return to our studio, so stay with espresso, there is a lot of interesting information ahead, i advise you not to miss it. Gasoline trimmers are so heavy, loud and inconvenient, and you really want to have a beautiful one. 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Escalation scenario, well, we wanted to ask you about the current constellation of what is called the readiness of the peoples republic of china to use force against taiwan, and to what extent the World Community will be ready to try to defend this not just a small island, well, but a certain example of what is called an asian democracy, westernized, with appropriate technologies, and here the question is not only, so to speak. About chinese ambitions, but also about the willingness of the west not to allow one or another state to cross red lines by force. And i want. So that we all understand that taiwan for the west is an appropriate, you know, ah, caveat to the chinese global dominance that beijing is striving for and doing everything to make this Global Economic expansion happen. China threatens taiwan. By the use of military force, china is doing everything to sow fear and uncertainty about the future in the people of taiwan, it is another matter whether china succeeds in this, how effective are all these attempts to patrol the taiwan gulf with ships of the chinese navy. Or air force planes from china, i think that it is unlikely that china will dare to go to war over taiwan in the coming years, or even at all. I understand that the desire to unite into one big country. To the centenary of the founding of the peoples republic of china, there are only a few years left there, 30 in all, it encourages leaders of china, and especially xi jinping, who completely turned the page that was started by denopin several decades ago. And uh, these constant statements that china will not stop before the use of military force, nevertheless , are exposed to the corresponding determination of the chinese population itself, and countries that support taiwan, without going beyond the official attitude of their official position. Which in 190 two countries of the world is expressed in the fact that taiwan is an integral part of china. The United States, despite even the law of 79 year, which testifies to the fact that, after all , they left a certain, you know, trump card up their sleeve. The United States still recognizes taiwan as a part. But for the United States, it is the same lever that can be used, and it does so all the time, to contain the global expansionist intentions and aspirations of the peoples republic of china. We have to note, look, its just interesting to understand, when we analyze the situation with china and russia, the way china helps. Has russia and what is the role of china in the fact that russia continues its aggression against ukraine, knowing how is it before, how does china help russia circumvent certain sanctions, secretly supplies it with this or that surplus, and so on. We understand that if ukraine somehow loses this war, then either russia will get what it wants, and these, relatively speaking, negotiations and the result of these negotiations, they will still not be more in favor of the russian federation, so this will be a direct push. To china so that he, well, he will look, russia managed to do it, why can china not do it, if russia managed to do it . That is, dont you think . Do you think that the outcome of how the war in ukraine ends could become one of the key factors in how china might behave towards taiwan . I believe that this can be a factor, but not the key, my one caveat is lets not compare china with russia, and besides. The relationship of china with the leadership of russia, if we have pure gangsters in russia, who did not care about their people and for the whole environment, then china is a completely different country and a completely different, lets say, geopolitical substance, the chinese leadership set itself the goal of making everything is appropriate and everything is possible for the Chinese People to feel happy, for them to live in abundance and for them to have. A gorgeous future, and he, i mean the leader of china xi jinping is trying, even somehow. To make this future more attractive, talking about the fact that taiwan will soon be ours, our integral part, which it actually is, but considering the election of a so called separatist, like laitzinde, who is calling for china to stop these very threats and political and military, he is trying. To do in such a way that everything the Chinese People believed. We have that there can be no comparison between the chinese leadership and the leadership of the russian russian federation, socalled, for purposes that cannot even be parallel. Absolutely, mr. Ambassador, with you, well, this is rather, so to speak, a rhetorical figure, but who knows, lets say so. How much beijing will be ready to play sharply when we talk about a possible escalation with regard to taiwan, and the key story, this is the triangle of interests, that is, we would like to simply understand, on the one hand, we understand that taiwan is for the United States needed not only as an islet in the literal sense of democracy in the South China Sea, but as a very specific island with its own territorial waters and so on and so forth, well, an island that in. Basically controls the key approaches to the chinese coast when we are talking about the South China Sea. For us, for ukraine, taiwan is also extremely important and interesting, as a workshop for the production of modern technologies, chips, and taiwan also demonstrates that it is interested in supporting ukraine, because we understand how difficult it is for taiwan right now, how right it is for us, for example, to strengthen singing. Work with the same taiwan and how can the United States behave in the event of a serious escalation . And i repeat once again, i am not a supporter of the theory that some kind of military action will take place on the part of china regarding the seizure of taiwan, the annexation of taiwan, etc. Tension can be. Yes, as for the position of the United States, everything is clear here. So it is possible that it is considered even as a conditional, lets say, a fortress, so that china does not dare to take any very aggressive actions, that is why taiwan is being pumped up with american weapons and not only american weapons, some money is given so that it is clearly understood in beijing that it will not work that easily, and here you have another example. The example of ukraine, which concerns ukraine, our attitude towards taiwan, of course, we are interested, like the rest of the world, in having good relations with manufacturers, that is, semiconductors, and we can do this only by clearly adhering to our position regarding the fact that, in our understanding, taiwan is for china, it is an integral part of china, we admit it and we never do not. Recognize any sovereignty and independence of taiwan, we can only be, lets say, in economic, trade, humanitarian, sports, any kind of ties, but not in state ones, we cant even open any representative offices there, except , lets say, business or interregional, thank you, ihor litvy, ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of ukraine to the peoples republic of china in 1999. In 2001, the cochairman of the ukrainian Chinese Business council was in eterispress, we are now moving on, we pass the floor to our colleague iryna koval, who has already prepared with news editorial office, relevant and Fresh Information for us, so iro, we pass the floor, and we ask you to briefly tell what we managed to find out about. Thank you marta, well, in just a moment i will talk about the situation in vovchanka and robotyn, and i will tell you in more detail about the explosion in luhansk, wait. Its 4 p. M. In ukraine, for your attention a news release on the spresso tv channel, in irynas studio