Transcripts For ESPRESO 20240704

Crimea in the focus of attention of the Russian Special services called and their followers in the peninsula now representatives of the crimean tatar people religious leaders in particular mrs. Lariso, do you think they have intensified this pressure now and doesnt it look somehow you know especially cynical after one of the authoritative between. Peoples courts actually admitted that there is no pressure on religious or ethnic grounds in crimea solely because of political views, this can happen, and after that these three crazy waves, there are people arrested, there are people whose relatives are still looking for them, because they did not understand where they are are located, thats what this story is about, friends, in my opinion, this includes the issue of war, because for the russians it is absolutely. It is clear that a possible ukrainian offensive on crimea will be accompanied by uprisings, support actions, and such actions to meet to the ukrainian army, the occupiers understand this absolutely obviously, that is, to them, this is not the territory of the occupied donbas, which they cleaned there for three years, where there are, of course , partisans, there are people who are waiting for the ukrainian army. I do not doubt it, but these people are disunited, they are not united, because they are each in their own house. And what is the crimean tatar people . This is a nation that had structures, structures of the mejlis, all National Structures of unity, which continue to function in principle today, theoretically, every crimean tatar knows every crimean tatar, thats how it is, and it is obvious that this is happening, including around certain. People religious leaders, around religious authorities, that is, now they are trying with all their might to somehow remove or take control of what we call the Crimean Tatar National solidarity, in order to reduce the factor of what they call the fifth column in crimea, and Pay Attention now the pressure has gone again, the pressure has gone on the crimean tatar lawyers, luftiye zudieva, a woman who, even before this, constantly, she never she did not hide her position or anything , she spoke on international platforms, every time she returned to the territory of the occupied crimea through ukrainian territory she was controlled, she was constantly searched and interrogated, but nevertheless, somehow. They did not allow themselves about the woman, but now here they are already simply removing activists and those people who are respected in the crimean tatar community, well, in general , the situation is really terrible, and you know, larisa, i would, in principle, if i was honest, call on all the people who are being hunted by the russians there, to simply leave to any what is the way to get out of there, but at the same time i know how it will be with. That is, people do not want, crimeans do not want to leave their homeland in spite of everything, and this is such a trap , in fact, for people who risk themselves, having no weapons, nothing , having only the dignity and yes, yes, different political views , that is absolutely true, but what a threat, what kind of regime is this, for which the threat is imagined by people who have different, different political views at home, i think that. That and where does it know, you know what, about the fact that they want to create such an atmosphere that as much as possible, well , that as many people as possible leave, just to replace them with anyone and eh. This trend will continue throughout the entire war until its end of our victory, but they will try to simply clean up as much as possible, then even at the last stages to say no, well, you see, there are no Indigenous People here, there is almost no one left here, here are the unfortunate russians, Yulia Navalna navalnaya will come to their defense, i dont know, khodarkovsky will say that the rights of military pensioners must be taken into account, so what, thats why, what is the end, is it just. This , that is, they cant live otherwise, yes, no, no , pressing, not oppressing, there, not repressing, is it really such a strategic , some, maybe not as i said, you can Say Something differently, meta, just sometimes we it seems to us that they just do something automatically, just because they are lazy, in fact, often in the end it turns out that there was such a strategic plan, the point is that what we. Call russians, well, russians , it is not a nationality, it is not even a political identity, it is what erich fromm called a totalitarian collective personality, that is, it is such a transformation of a person under the conditions of a totalitarian regime, when a person becomes in fact the personification of this regime, a person has to give up everything personal and to merge into some kind of community, it is, as you know, in. That is, some, and here is a russian now under putin, it is just this community, and that is why anyone who carries a National Identity , some cultural identity, that is, is a threat to them , because it is a hostile element, i agree that it is special in crimea, because it is important for the russians to show that this is russian crimea, here i want to remind you that it is not the trump factor, we constantly. Talk about the fact that the arrival of trump is for ukraine is threatening that trump can force ukraine to sit on negotiations with russia, thats all lala, but we have to understand who donald trump is . This is a person who repeatedly expressed himself so casually, not as statements, but simply he demonstrated his worldview, saying, well , listen, well, crimea is there, it is russian, the russians are there, and it should be so that trump and everyone else, who will support there was no trump, there were russians, so the russians, by the way, recently i have been watching the promotion of videos with crimean, allegedly Crimean Tatars, who say that they are fighting voluntarily in the russian army against the juntafascists, and how they are defending their native russian crimea, they can now see that these videos are to be filmed, well, it is obvious to any media person that they were filmed, there is a good thing. Damn, this is staged , and it spins , and the faces are covered, then we dont know who the Crimean Tatars, chechens are, who they are, maybe its a resident of the rostov region, but here they are and there are a lot of such and such videos, right now its allegedly Crimean Tatars who tell , as the poundfascists here are going to destroy their native russian crimea, thats about it, thats all, it s still a message to trump, and when we talk about the threat to trump, i want to remind you that trump has no problem taking and recognizing russian crimea, but in general he doesnt care about international law, yes its just as if putin doesnt care , he can do it alone , because he wants to, thats why when we say that he can put a transition on the table, on russian terms, we say, no, he can recognize russian crimea, and for this the whole this performance is considered, thats what its for is being done, therefore. We are, of course, in great danger. I believe that ukraine, the ukrainian state should now, again, as it was in the 14th year, when the russians tried to show that crimea is a conflict between ukraine and russia, and crimea has always been russian, ukraine took over, began to support the Crimean Tatars, their subjectivity, their right to selfdetermination, and in fact, in the international imagination, crimea became equal to the crimean tatar Indigenous People and its territory, its history. Residence, but now ukraine should once again strengthen this, this, this narrative regarding crimea, again start to demonstrate crimea as the territory of Indigenous People, Indigenous Peoples, which are crimean tatar, ukrainian and kremchak, and that what russia is doing is ethnocide, instead we see that somehow we are playing the wrong game regarding crimea , and we have, i will remind. Even the mezhaliz of the crimean tatar people in legal terms, at the state level , is not marked enough, and this is a big question for the ukrainian state, which we will definitely raise in our next ones. Joined the joint project of the tv channel and atr, together beraber. Thanks to Ayder Muzhdabaev for his work. Thank you, christ. Thank you all. See you next saturday, stay with us. There are 20 discounts on aquaspray oxy at the psaryznyk vam and oskad pharmacies, there are 10 discounts on valeriana bolgarska at the psyasnyk pam and oskad pharmacies. Rose b. Rose b. Professional hair care at home. Roguzb. Buy plantain in pharmacies, save money. There are discounts on maridoza of 15 in pharmacies psarynyk vam and ochadnyk. 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Premium sponsor of the National Team presents united by football, stronger together greetings to all, this is a football format, 2 3 of the championship is already behind us, lets tell you who is the leader, whom Serhii Rebrov called for the match with bosnia and herzegovina, and also, while such shevchenko years continue in to ukraine, football. To ukraine, the shevchenko days are going on now, and i suggest to remember that Andriy Shevchenko and Taras Shevchenko are our most outstanding compatriots. I, oleksandr vashchuk and andriy melinovskyi are with you. Hello, andrew. We are trying to establish a connection with andrii, i think we will succeed there. Therefore, lets move on to the fact that 20 rounds of the Ukrainian Premier League have already passed, and expectedly, unexpectedly, shakhtar finally came out on top, they are in the lead, there the truth divides and. Points with kryvbas, they have the same, and, lets say yes, it is still spinning, because both dynamo and dnipro1 also have ambitions for the championship, and we move on to the match that was shakhtarkryvbas, the central match of the 19th round, where it seemed that yuriy vernedub knew such keys to how to outplay donetsk shakhtar, and , lets say, up to a certain minute, until the 60th minute before the relegation, it all worked out, but then shakhtar suffered the relegation, scored and that was it. Go ahead, im oleksandr vashchuk, i remind you once again that andrii malinovskyi is with us, andrii, if possible, can you hear us . We are establishing a connection with andrew so lets move on to the game that ended in lviv. Shakhtardonetsk, kryvbas 5 2, we have such and such a box score, which is called who scored, who did not score. And, well, it was a benefit match between Dmytro Kryskiv and Artem Bondarenko, because Dmytro Kryskiv also scored a lot of goals, one goal in particular by him, which. Caused such a huge reaction throughout ukraine, and Artem Bondarenko also looked interesting, and we have a comment from the coach of kryvbas, yuriy vernedub, and therefore. Lets listen to what yuriy vernedub talked about the game itself and about the championship, whether kryvbas has ambitions to continue to fight for the championship, the question rather surprised the staff that zadyrak, kozhushko, bezkarvainy are now not in the base, as well as tatarkov, what is this connected with . Lets put it this way, when the team wins, then the team wins, and when it loses, then the coach loses, i decided that way, in my opinion, those players who are already playing in the second round, leave. The poles are a little better prepared, thats why they go beyond the start, maybe not related to damage, no, i will decide with the coaches and they became, i consider that we did not agree with the squad, the only thing that interfered with us, the game was until the 57th minute, until it was removed from ours, this episode with the second goal, that the players made such gentlemanly movements , this is their right, this will once again be a. Lesson that not everyone plays fair play, some play, others dont, thats all, so let them learn and not make such mistakes again for the rest of their lives, but this result does not override krybass ambitions, but why should he, i apologize, everything can be in life, real also loses, thats why barcelona loses, thats why we also lost, we lost to the team that is the leader of ukraine. Championship for many, many years, so i dont think that something terrible happened, we will continue to prepare, we still have 11 rounds. So, we heard yuriy vernedub, who nevertheless believes that kryvbasreal is somewhere nearby, and you can lose one match there to win the championship. Andriy, finally we are joining you, andriy malinovskyi is with us, what do you say about these personnel decisions, and about kryskivs goal, because the whole of ukraine is talking about it for a week. The referee should have intervened, it was not necessary, the players should have stopped, what did it look like from the outside . Well, hello everyone, first of all, secondly , its great that we started with yury vernedub, because he is an indicator of adequacy, and now we see that, since he is quite calm about this decision of the arbitrators, he understands that according to the rules , everything was done correctly, yes, that is, kryiskyi did not object to anything. There to play with bondarenko and score this ball, however, it is definitely necessary to mention human qualities anyway, because we live in such difficult times, because we constantly talk about the fact that we should unite, we should be together, but still, i think that the Football Players of kryvbas absolutely rightly went there to learn about the state of zubkovs health, because it seemed that the death was serious, but it turns out that the purely human qualities of dmytro kryiskyi themselves are causing some questions, as far as im concerned. Although again we are talking about football, about the result, about ambition, and this match was a test of ambition, first of all, for kryvbas, which, after all, continues to claim the championship. We see that the vernadub team is significantly strengthening, we see that all the emphasis is on the championship title, but this test has not been passed, including precisely because of these moments, which, again, they also go in parallel with the championship ambitions, that is, here the miner shows what to sneeze at everything. You just need to win and score goals, i still have a version, maybe there are some inside the team such signs are secret that zubkovo showed that there is nothing serious with him, and therefore such a retribution that kryskov was not worried about zubkovs condition, but i also have a question for the referee, for balakin, for the referee var, because about 5 m, well the distance from where there was a violation of the backcourt, from where Dmytro Kryskiv played, it is possible to intervene in the arm, here it is undoubtedly balakins mistake, although again. We are talking in the context of this match and this episode, it is probably the most resonant, despite the fact that that already a week has passed since this central match of the previous round, kryvbas already played , and shakhtar played, but we still remember this match, this episode, and the actions of the referee, i think that yes, balakin too, balakin must have questions, i think balakin also had now the lack of this distance from which this standard was played, but we, we understand that the emphasis was not on that, on the fact that. This is exactly the kind of draw that is not denied, then lets move on to what who scored, when scored, jochym konoplya opened the score, we have everything graphically, then adu equalized the score, adu, who displaced kozhushka, the best scorer of kryvbas, who scored all the goals, otada now tries to score in every match and also goes, and then this goal of Dmytro Kryskiv 2 1 and in the 57th minute of the removal of ilych, i ask ilych, was red, in him to ukraine. His russian is not the best, thats why he says, i dont know , i dont know, he says, well, i understand that he touched a little there, but the player will always deny some hardness of intentions there, which maybe he thought was enough. There wont be a yellow card, and after that you can say shakhtar got carried away, Artem Bondarenko is there opened up perfectly, scored, gave away , Artem Bondarenko participated in the first goal as well, and we can see statistically, after all , the miner probably took the lead there according to the xg indicator due to this second half, in particular, well, the point is that the removal itself ilyich is the key moment of the match, not even this resounding goal scored by the krysks, but the withdrawal of ilich, it became. The key, because kryvbas could not gather and resist, because it also lost during the course of the match. So it was very hard to get together though it seems appropriate that they scored, timur stetskov scored an important goal in the minority, breaking through two defenders of the National Team, konopolya and gondar were also different there, by the way, three world champions, and tytskov still scored this goal for kyvas in the minority, which speaks of the spirit of the team, the players of the miner after the match. Left quite satisfied, it is also clear that the support of the fans benefited them, and artem bodarenko stopped, even though he was drinking, but told us a few words about the game, eh, they could, i think they should have, but well, the mister told us that the feelings were a little, a little blurred due to the fact that we had to close this game earlier and realize more moments, but we won n two, we are also happy, we will strive for more, to improve the implementation, but we are still happy, well, the question is, who is the miners most serious competitor in the championship . I dont know, i think this is my opinion, that it is dynamo and dnipro, but this is my subjective opinion, thank you, that question is ukrainian, no, the hero of the match, what can i say . He can also support and left attacker that, what else to say see, in an ironic tone, that Dmytro Kryskiv can really play in many positions, which he confirmed there during the last week, he said before that, and this application, that after all, dnipro1 and dynamo consider shakhtar as competitors, what do you think , dont they overestimate kryvbas . Well , you see, Artem Bondarenko, who is always in a good mood, made this statement against the background of the match with kryvbas, especially after. He extended the contracts with the miner, we see that bondarenko has again become the main Football Player shakhtar is once again doing the weather in a big way, now there are problems in the center of the field in the absence of taras stepanenko, and it is bondarenko who partially solves them, then he said that dnipro1 and dynamo, we think so, for sure, that this is how they are currently sorting out their opponents. Although i think that kryvbas, and verneduk emphasized this, said about 11 and now they have forgotten. And 10 more rounds, i think he will fight for the roslavl cut, well, you know, one of the best impressions i have from this game is that i was at the stadium, saw the fans, i saw, albeit small, queues at the turnstiles, and i remembered, you know, when we started our project, we always showed these sketches with fans, who they are, what they say about the game, and i couldnt help myself, i talked to the fans again, lets lets see such a plot, a sketch about football fans. Who are you for shakhtar donetsk and the standard question, when was the last time you played football in ukraine . Before the war, it was the miner who played in kyiv, i was at this match, my last match was then, i really love the miner, everyone what matches in lviv at shakhtar , i was present here, although i am from lviv, but a miner, well, the last time they were in europe was at shakhtar marseille, in ukraine, they were in ukraine right before the war, the last match was against dnipro1, at nsk olympic, well, they had season ticket for shakhtar, i went a lot, its no secret, where are you from . We are from donetsk, well, we left donetsk in the 14th year, we moved to kyiv, and here such trouble has already happened in kyiv, well , we are fighting, i hope for victory, even if. I dont win the championship, i will always support for them, their defeats in the Champions League in the europa league, it doesnt matter to me, the main thing is that this team is no longer just a team, like a family. 100 will win this year, but there are doubts, first of all, kevin and other brazilian wingers need to adapt, and in principle, well, a good, good lineup in the miner will win, and this match, well, probably 3 1, i bet on 3 1. Breaks us, he does not let us forget that we are alive, we support sports and the regime, the main regime, such tight shots to these fans, there are many such fans, because all the clubs they go to meet. Veterans and do such actions for them, and he correctly said that sports does not allow him to forget that he is alive, well , in general, all the stories with fans, it has always been, it was and remains our feature, now ours is returning a chip, because sometimes its just the fans expressions that are more interesting than the press conferences of kvartsyanyi and other interesting mentors, although you know, i spoke with yuriy vernedub and he has an opinion, well, he. More so thinks that our neighbor is a little abnormal, well, not a little, but well abnormal and from his caveat lets hear, no, well the fans really, that when they are, they are, but its hard for me to answer that question, after what to tell you, what i see, that what happened in odesa. Everything is fine, god forbid, Something Like this will happen, it will be very difficult, so it is difficult for me to say that if the stadiums in the stadiums are bomb shelters, then there are no questions, if they are not , well, this is a risk, a very big risk, because our aggressor is not sleeps, waits, and sleeps and sees, the more we drink our ukrainian blood, thats why i dont know, its a double impression, but everything is exactly wrong. Because, well, as far as i m concerned, its clear that we should approach this informally to these warehouses of the number of fans allowed to visit the stadium, and the warehouse is definitely there, and dnipro1 does not take such a risk, because there are problems with Storage Facilities there, as well as in dnipro, in dnipro there are nuances with. The fact that there are ongoing alarms, it happens that the match lasts 5 hours plus, as the last match there lasted more than four hours, i saw oleksandrii after all a little bit calmer, and there are also those there, well, there are schools near the stadium, and fans come there, if there is still anxiety, well, yes, it is 100 that all the nuances are taken into account precisely in this context and it is not so easy to return the fans and only after passing all these stages of preparation, now the stadiums that host the championship of ukraine, they are confident that the fans will be able to be protected, well, but this, this is another such aspect that we show that we are alive, we are moving correctly and we are not broken, here is the shakhtar kolos match, lets move on, here is the shakhtar squad, here the fan, this young man, who said that he sees the main threat is that the brazilians have not adapted, from this, from this game, you can say that they have already adapted, that. He scored a double and, lets say, has already become the hero of donetsk again there shakhtar fans. Well, donetsk is unlikely to know about kevin, but in ukraine they already found out after his double, in a very important, by the way, match, shakhtar largely conceded the event of the match, conceded after the first half and it was necessary