That do not exist, of course, there are certainly some reforms, but there are more reforms that do not exist, and that is why our partners are constantly trying to very diplomatically remind us that, as they say, where is it promised. Taras zagorodnik, managing partner of the national anticrisis group, mr taras, i congratulate you, good day, big seven, well, they would first go through what they dont like, then the draft law they are asking about. Where are the reforms, but today i read again what they are asking, what it is somehow strange that you have been appointed to the Audit Chamber , ms. Pishchanska, and the question of how the selection will take place there in general, how control will take place, in a word, require transparency, reformation and clear guarantees of some kind, first of all for european money in ukraine, in your opinion ukrainian work authorities in this direction and why. So stubbornly does it fail to do what our partners are so simply asking for . Well, look, i believe that it should be a mutual analysis, everything is a mutual analysis, which was done, because i heard about the fact that bef is a big reform, well, during the term of office of the previous president , for some reason everyone was satisfied then, or an analysis was carried out, but it still did not work out who was responsible. For that, who was involved in the selection of those candidates and so on, because you know, we have something an endless process of reforms, i just dont see an analysis of what was done, because some contests were also held in pet, i remember, there were no complaints, well, i guess something should be looked at, who is responsible for what a preliminary run was held, so with regard to the Accounting Chamber and everything else, there, too. Regarding this question, yes, there is a law, if i am not mistaken , which must be passed, is there really control over the deduction of money, this, well, more precisely, the account of money, this is very important in this case, because we must understand the logic of foreigners, when they give money , they report first of all to their voters, it doesnt always work in ukraine, you know, that spending on various items of spending do not bear such. Political responsibility, unfortunately, so far, although not always, of course, and there it is a judicial matter, so they understand that if money is issued, taxpayers of western countries, then it must be accounted for, it must be reported, this is normal practice and normal requirements, in relation to, well, we actually have several controlling realities bodies, regarding the counting of money, we have an Accounting Chamber. We also have a state Audit Service, including one that also signs memoranda with European Countries there, which also supervises this issue, in principle, if the Audit Chamber does not advise us, then we have a state Audit Service that is responsible for supervision including for this money, but that is, if there are claims to the Accounting Chamber, well, we should follow what our foreign partners want, because we depend on them and in. They have normal, a normal question, where will our money go . Well, i would also like you to say a few words about these 50 billion that our partners have already allocated to us, well, the European Parliament was worried about the decision, there are still a number of bureaucratic procedures, and control over this money, in your opinion, is it will take place, or is this again a risk that. The First Tranche should be more than 4 billion, that it will all be distributed as it should and as it should be, well , look, first of all, we need to conduct an audit a long time ago our expenses. Budget, because a lot what is spent is not what is needed, especially during the war, you all see the scandals that are taking place, there is procurement, especially in local selfgovernment bodies, in central authorities, it is spent on what is needed now for the war, first of all, on some constructions that are not needed at the moment can wait a year or two, landscaping, paving stones and many other things, so there should still be. Joint work of the cabinet of ministers on determining priorities on which resources can be spent, and do not hum including local princes, and when the priorities are defined , what is the money spent on, first of all, but to see where the state apparatus can be reduced, because we have a state apparatus, you know, everything is growing, growing, salaries are getting bigger and bigger, but whats the point less and less, we still have, for example, mariupol City Councils, there are still severodonetsk City Councils for the temporarily occupied territories, which hold tenders, including for the purchase of utility equipment, everything else, what is it . When the europeans see all this, they ask a natural question what is our money spent on . And this must be an audit both from our authorities and. Including the understanding that foreigners will not help us endlessly, and we must understand that the promised 50 billion is, well for several years, this is, firstly, secondly , who said that it will be permanent, our partners are gradually pushing us to the fact that ukraine itself should also rationally build its budget policy, they want to see. A state capable of seeing, a partner , and not a permanent dustman, and many other things, that is what we should, what should be concentrated on and the people of ukraine, who should also participate in monitoring expenses, because it is a mutual process, you know, we have many peoples initiatives , what kind of people have united, i know such a project is a public audit, people collect. The money themselves monitors the budgets of local communities, yes, and then they force officials, including to beat the deadline technique, well , the tenders that exist are a mutual process, at least, us literally one and a half minutes is very short, well, i will only add to your words about the hints that corruption should be fought, the Us State Department also stated very normally diplomatically, but we understand that ukraine can do more in the fight against corruption, as they say, cant cant. But must and literally just for a minute , do you have any guesses with what, in addition to the officially declared ones, the entire president flew to saudi arabia . Well, saudi arabia is a very important country, yes, it has relations with both the west and the east, ah, huge resources including oil and money, they affect the oil market, and i think that there will be a lot of talk about what. We wont see the results now, of course, but in the end i think that from her, well, after a while we will hear, well, the answers to this question, thank you very much for your comments, thank you for finding time for our air, tara zahorodnyi, manager a partner of the national anticrisis group, well , officially, the president also flew to discuss the peace formula, which should be issued somewhere closer to the summer in switzerland, even on a big conversation, and the issue of the exchange of prisoners, this is also. A critically important issue, first of all for the prisoners themselves, who are in very difficult conditions, to put it mildly, in captivity in the russian federation. Lets move on to the topic of war, and serhiy zgurets, the director of the defense express agency and the leader of the military summaries of the day column, is with us. Serhiy, congratulations, i would like to speak to you. I congratulate you, vasyl, i congratulate our viewers. Today in our column we will talk about the new Missile Coalition created in paris, and also with a military expert we we will evaluate what is happening now on the front line, around avdiivka. And is a new attack by the enemy possible in the summer, as Volodymyr Zelenskyi said at the press conference ukraine year 24. More on that in a moment. Ill start with the good news. Today, the air force shot down two russian su34 frontline bombers. Both planes were shot down in the eastern direction. The first at 10 oclock, the second. So about two oclock in the afternoon. Let me remind you that the enemy uses oc34 to drop planning bombs, the approximate range of dropping these bombs is about 70 km. And actually kaba they create a significant threat to our troops on the front line. This is already the sixth and seventh su34 that the air force has shot down since the 17th. In addition, during this time, let me remind you, two 135 fighters and one a50u longrange Reconnaissance Aircraft were shot down. With such losses of combat and special aviation, the russians should think about stopping aviation at least for a while. Meat assaults, air force commander general Mykola Oleschuk wrote about it today. And the other good news is based on the results of yesterdays meeting in paris, a Missile Coalition was formed there, it was announced by the french president , who received representatives of 20 european states that support ukraine in the fight against the russian federation. This is actually such a ninth coalition in addition to antiaircraft, tank, artillery, and there. Kron explained that this ninth coalition was created so that ukraine would have more opportunities to carry out strikes on the territory of the russian federation, and it provides transfer of medium and longrange bombs and missiles. According to the words macron, france is going to mobilize all the willing, all the states that have the ability to supply such new equipment. The details of which weapon macron did not indicate, which weapon it is in question, he also did not say the list of countries participating in this initiative, but there are certain explanations that when it comes to medium and longrange missiles , according to constant estimates, it is which has a range of over 1,000 km, this is, of course, probably not what macron himself had in mind, but then what kind of mobilization and supplies are we talking about for ukraine, first of all. Well, it concerns, i think, the support of existing capabilities, first of all, it is the supply of french and british cruise missiles, scalp and storm shadow, which were supplied in the number of dozens of units. So far, this is the longest arm in the arsenal of our air force with an impact range of almost 300 km, and it is quite effective, if we even remember that with the help of this type of missile , a Russian Submarine that was there for repairs was even destroyed. France has promised that it will transfer 40 more scalp cruise missiles to ukraine. Britain also announced additional deliveries of stormshad this year, and given the effectiveness of these missiles, we can be sure that the strikes on russian targets will continue. But the question arises whether this tandem will be complemented by the third missile of the mbda concern, the german taurus. In fact, we know that. That the bundestag approved the transfer of these missiles to ukraine in the context that the transfer of longrange weapons is possible, but german chancellor scholz Still Believes that this is not the right time, he explains this just before the meeting in paris, and actually we we know that germany has about 200 combatcapable taurus missiles, and we know that there are actually. Technical problems, which the germans themselves explain with regard to the transfer of these missiles to ukraine, that it takes a long time to integrate them on the su24, especially on the f fighter 16, they even call it a year and a half to integrate the taurus into the f16, these are actually colossal figures, but let me remind you that just a few days ago, an agreement was signed between the Ukrainian Defense industry, the Jointstock Company and the German Branch of the concern. Mpda where agreed about the possible singing, about the directions of cooperation between ukraine and germany, maybe the ukrainian side will be able to find options for spreading the concept to create some cheap or no less effective means of impression, relying on the potential of germany, and in addition, i will add that actually within the framework of this missile and bomb coalition, we remember that france promises us to transfer a significant amount. Planning bombs already of own production, which have a range of up to 70 km, in the future even up to 200, so in any case there are projects, the main thing is that to scale and use this potential of this coalition to develop our National Projects and to scale and transfer more missile weapons to ukraine, because they are badly needed on the battlefield. And then we will talk about what is happening on the battlefield itself, because the situation there is quite difficult, about almost everyone. Areas, especially including avdiivka and there to the west of avdiivka, about our fortification, about the new war plan that zelensky spoke about at the press conference, about we will talk to our expert, to us. Victor kyvylyuk, reserve colonel and expert of the center for defense strategies, is involved. Mr. Victor, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear the spresso channel on the air. Good evening, mr. Sergey, i am also glad to see you. I will start with such a difficult question from the point of view of the perception of our viewers there and me personally, this is exactly what is happening west of avdiyivka, where, relatively speaking, for the second day in a row, we record that the enemy is pushing through our defenses, there yesterday, there we are we talked about the swallows, but today we are already talking about the steppes and the north, that is , in fact , the enemy, using his numerical advantage there, or some tactical features, still pushes through our defenses, explain to our viewers what exactly is happening, or is it lets say this, well, the process is logical or illogical, or some things should be taken into account in order to perceive these actions, well, in the context of real. Requirements for conducting hostilities, the enemy in the avdiivka area engaged two armies of the second and 41st and practically in the full strength of the first army corps, which in terms of its composition is more than two armies taken together. Today, based on the results of the last five days of fighting, the command of the operationalstrategic grouping of tavria troops decided to withdraw troops from several positions. So two battalions of the third assault brigade, which ensured the withdrawal of the garrison from avdiyivka, took up defense along the border of berdychi, semenivko, umanske, and yasnobrodivka. The 53rd brigade moved away from the thin one, and thus avoided encirclement. The 47th brigade deters the attacks of the 15th of the enemy motorized rifle brigade, the enemy forces 3035. And the troops of the operationalstrategic grouping of the russian army are putting up organized resistance, trying to gain a foothold in advantageous positions in order to continue the implementation of the concept of inflicting maximum losses on the enemy. Mr. Viktor, but if we read a series of messages there from our military, soldiers, there, analysts, one way or another it emerges. The situation is related to engineering support, fortifications and so on, er, is this some kind of systemic gap, or does such a gap not exist, if we are talking about the preparation of the defense line , which our brigades are currently receiving, then relatively speaking, digging in in these difficult conditions is the responsibility of the brigade commanders themselves, or is this work that was not done before, and now we, relatively speaking, well in. Because of this, we have certain nuances that affect the stability of the defense, or is this just one of the factors that now affects the penetration of our defense. You are right in saying that, in general , i consider the problem of Operational Support of hostilities to be a systemic problem. In during the process of reforming the armed forces in 20002010 , almost all of them were reduced. Means of the socalled senior commander, that is, at the strategic and operational levels , the relevant commanders either do not have their own forces and means at all, or they actually have very little of them, and to perform tasks in the interests of the troops, they formally have nothing, in the 14th and 15th years, several steps were taken to overcome this problem, but they simply did not have time to solve it in full, because. Formally, it was peacetime and the armed forces had to fit into the number limit that was established by the parliament. Why was the problem not solved by creating backup components . Because we had quite enough Operational Reserve in the first place, i cannot answer, this was the way of the general staff, i dont know why it was not used. And now our general staff in pagat has to choose between restoring combat capabilities. Combat brigades and the formation of reserves, and there is not enough resources, first of all human resources, to solve all problems, and therefore the problem of fortification equipment of the lines of the position. It cannot be solved in its entirety by the forces and means of the operational and strategic level, and this entire volume falls on the shoulders of the commanders of combat brigades and the personnel of the brigades, this is incorrect, that is, in fact, theoretically, the number of engineering brigades and regiments there should be increased, for this there is a lack of personnel structure and transferring the fortification there to civilian institutions is actually impossible, because they dont really have the. Experience that would provide really good lines of defense, thats how it turns out, well, a topical situation for two components. You you are right, the Operational Command has an Operational Support regiment in its composition, which includes two engineer battalions. In order to fulfill the standard volume of tasks of engineering support of the operation, at least 10 such battalions are needed, that is, the number of engineering troops must be increased at least five times. But all this must be ensured by means of mechanization, they still need to be taken somewhere, so the problem is very serious. Well, its a pity that we are talking about this problem now, when in fact it should have been solved these problems, indeed, the fortification had to work like clockwork from the point of view of creating certain structures. And i would like to ask you about the defense plan, or the action plan for the 24th year, because that has passed. I once spoke to you because they tasked syrsky to develop such a plan, at the press conference Volodymyr Zelenskyi says that such a plan has already been developed, or that general syrskyi is developing it even in two versions, the minister of defense says that such an effective plan is , exists, but we will not disclose the details, which seems logical, but what puts me in a bit of a deadlock, i cant understand such a plan from the point of view of systemic defense planning, which. What kind of document is this, or is this some kind of knowhow, or is this some kind of temporary solution that is currently being discussed in afterburner mode in order to have some clear approaches, or conditionally clear approaches to conducting hostilities. How do you rate this phrase plan for the 24th year . Its not just you in a dead end, its the expert environment in the same dead end. In this state there is legislation, there is defense planning and defense planning, thats two. Completely different processes, the second follows from the first, everything you need to know about defense planning is described in the relevant law of ukraine, which is so called on the organization of defense planning, and the pinnacle of this planning is the strategic defense bulletin, which is neither with war nor with combat actions are not connected in any way. Another law on the defense of ukraine establishes the procedure for developing defense planning documents. And this law determines that the president of ukraine, on the proposal of the cabinet of ministers, organizes the defense of the state of ukraine, approves the structure of the defense plan. The defense plan itself is a document with 12 sections, which, in general, are a set of documents that determine the content, scope of executors, order of deadlines for the implementation of political, economic, social, scientific , scientific and technical, informational, legal, organizational, and other measures to prepare the state for of defense, and among all this there is only one line about military measures, respectively, on the basis of the state defense plan, which is developed by the ministry of defense and coordinated by the cabinet of ministers of ukraine, and no military, neither general syrsky nor the general staff, receiving relevant documents from this plan, begin Strategic Planning, forming a Strategic Plan of defense, and this is a completely different document, our legislation does not provide for any war plans for the year, what is the Supreme Commander talking about, i i cant explain, well, then let our viewers try to understand these hydropayments related to the plan themselves. Defense, then there is a question of another order, then conducting an audit in the armed forces in the ministry of defense, about what so says Volodymyr Zelenskyi, and this task is also entrusted to oleksandr syrskyi. What is the meaning of such an audit, why is it being conducted right now, what results can be expected from the point of view that this process is also going its own way, contrary to the existing legislative practice there. Well, in general, audits of the armed forces are carried out as part of the defense review, which ends with a new strategic defense bulletin, but our situation is. This, when there is no time to conduct reviews, it is necessary to understand the state of affairs in armed forces. I think that it is very appropriate for the new commanderinchief to familiarize himself with the real state of affairs in the economy, which he is, in his own words, appointed to manage. So i think this is a positive step, and the information that the commanderinchief receives from this audit will help to. Firstly, to make informed decisions about who will continue to conduct combat operations, and secondly, the commanderinchief will have a comprehensive , a complete picture of the resources at his disposal, both human and material. Maybe, some military organizations will be reduced, perhaps formation will begin, our talk about the fact that we lack Strategic Reserves will finally turn into a process. Their formation, deployment, again , the fear that the conduct of this audit will interfere with the leadership of the troops, the conduct of military operations is not managed by the commanderinchief or the general staff, this is not their function, we have created the command of the United Forces for this purpose, which, strictly speaking, does not deal with that, for what is formed, four operas. The strategic grouping of troops is conducting combat operations in the east and south of ukraine and, accordingly , the commander, who is busy with the audit , is not busy, this does not prevent, for example, general tornavskyi from directing combat operations in the avdiyivke region or in the zaporizhzhia region, so i think that this is a necessary step that should spend, because two years of war, and the picture must be updated, and that. A question that is already directly related to hostilities, and not only to theory, but Volodymyr Zelenskyi says that the probability of an enemy offensive in the spring and summer, if the enemy will be able to do so, and if he is talking about the summer, then these are two components of this phrase either the enemy has significant reserves for carrying out such offensive actions, or after the conditional elections in russia, the enemy will announce mobiles. And for the summer will still have a significant number of conditional or sufficiently trained personnel, how do you evaluate this phrase of the president , that the probability of a new offensive in the summer on the front line . In general, the direction of thoughts is correct, what we see now, the enemy has focused on fulfillment of three tasks, the first is to break through to kurakhovo in the direction of ughledat and. Go to the flank and rear of our troops defending ughledat. In the kupinsky direction , the capture of kupyansk and the exit to the banks of the oskil river do not give them peace. And a new direction appeared in the time of yarskyi, where the enemy is trying to reach the slavyanskkramatorsk agglomeration from the direction of bakhmut, konstantinivka, druzhkivka, and from the liman side. These are extremely difficult tasks that cannot. To be decided before the president ial election, after the election i expect with high probability the announcement to open mobilizations in the russian federation, but firstly, the mobilization must be carried out, and secondly, with the mobilized resource , a bunch of measures should be taken in order to create combatready units, or at least battalions, from yesterdays merchandisers, managers, lawyers and other specialists. It is physically impossible to do this work until may or june, and the enemy has no ready Strategic Reserves to date, the Operational Reserves have actually been spent in battles in the avdiivka and robotyny regions, so it can be said that the enemy will ready to be carried out at least for operations within the framework of one operational direction, well, i do not expect this, there is no chance of success. But for septemberoctober this is quite possible, a period of 46 months will allow the enemy to deploy reserves, provide them with combat equipment, at least some, at least from the 70s, but it may not be earlier than the fall, so i agree with that the offensive will take place, but i do not agree with the fact that it will take place in june. Mr. Victor, thank you very much for