Transcripts For ESPRESO 20240702

Preferences, everything for the war. Dont insist, okay . Please, whats next . Please, honcharenko, 189, it is very similar, so i want to explain, continue the thought, and yes, the Economic Policy that should be gives today businessman workplace, one, two, 3, 4, 5, kiss him for it. And do not touch it, forget the way to him, forget the way to babies and others to him, pays people salaries , people work in ukraine, do not run away from ukraine, no, maybe someone returns to ukraine to work, thank god, happiness, they have the opportunity for themselves to earn, to donate to the armed forces, well done, well done, Everything Else , some loans, help, what is all this for, who, who, lets take 100 ukrainian entrepreneurs and ask them, do they need money from the budget, or so that missiles do not fall on their heads, let them and their families were not killed, thats the obvious answer, thats why its all about the war and dont touch them, please, if you want to react, lets move on , on the next amendment, who is goncharenko, the number of the amendment, the next one, mr. Oleksiiovych, how are we doing, the next amendment, one of those that we will put to the vote, we pass it to the end , lets, lets, then to the end, lets pass, then the 194th amendment , so we will return to the 190th later, the 194th amendment, it says about the exclusion of the norm regarding directing the balance of funds earmarked for development to the construction of roads waterways friends, what are the roads, what are the waterways, what are we even talking about. Well, there will be no roads or waterways, we have been shouting here for three years that if we build roads and do not build an army, russian tanks will continue to drive along these roads. Friends, well, thats how it happened, thats exactly how it is, thats why today we already know everything, well, lets give everything to the army, everything to the war, this should be the main task, in this road, postpone Everything Else, postpone it after the victory, thank you, thank you this is the 19th Fourth Amendment the next amendment goncharenko, please, number 195 correction, this is the same, again the construction of roads, the remainder of the funds provided for the development of the Water Management complex, friends, i repeat once again, the principle should be very simple yes, of course, there are necessary things in road management as well , bridges, where necessary, so that we can transfer equipment, so that we can secure. To train the army, to supply logistics, of course, no one disputes this, but these are exceptional cases, exceptional, Everything Else endures, Everything Else waits, because every day to us, what is, we just have to remember what is drone . A drone is a saved life of a ukrainian soldier, saved. By the way, i already remind us that a life saved is also a colossal saving for the state budget, because. We , we know, the state pays 15 million uah for a killed ukrainian soldier, and we need to preserve them from all points of view , the next amendment, the next amendment, the next, 212, please, yes, by 1966 we will return, it will be with a vote, that is why we are going now 212 amendment, the increase of state guarantees for the grain corridor from 2 billion to 20 billion, and this is a very correct thing, we need it, and if necessary, these are not expenses, friends, i draw your attention because some will say, well, why should we spend 20 billion or something on a grain corridor, thats not the main thing either. I draw your attention, this is a very reasonable amendment, this is a reasonable Economic Policy, because we will not spend these funds if nothing happens to the ships that are going to take grain, so here we can write with you also 100 billion hryvnias. Our task is to keep the ships moving, to keep the grain corridor working, we need to reduce insurance rates, thats it an example of a smart policy is this. There should be more, not spending, but ensuring the economy, you are so in support, i understand, of this amendment, thank you, who will be the next number, honcharenko, lets go, please, yes 214th amendment, it is important, i am right, i i want to draw your attention, dear mr. Ruslan, to what is being done correctly in the budget, there are many correct things, lets strengthen them, and not give, but. But to clean up the wrong ones, that is also the right thing, to fix on a permanent basis by local budgets 64 of pdf, but in addition to pdf military friends, well, this is wrong, first of all, i want to remind you that the law on withdrawing the pdf of the military has not been adopted, it has not been adopted, it failed in our country a few days ago, when, my god, it was the day before yesterday, so we cannot, what well, we accept things in the budget that do not exist, well, that is, there is no law for this, why do we fix 64 without the pdf of the military, and if, after all, common sense prevails and we will not take away the pdf of the military, which i hope, then that is of course this edit is wrong, so clear, its 214, the next one, whatever please what the next, the following, by the way, these are very important amendments, well, the 219th amendment and here i turn to dear ms. Roksolana, ms. Roksolana, with all due respect to you, you me, yesterday, during the review of the amendments, there was my amendment for consideration, exactly the same text as amendment 219, and you said from the podium, you said, it is for us, so goncharenko is proposing to write off the debt to the state budget for mediumterm loans provided by the local budget, my god, this is wrong, how can we write off the debt to someone , ms. Roksolano, do you know that you propose to support exactly the same amendment, the only difference is that there the author is purtovov, a colleague at the service of the people, and here the author is inconvenient, goncharenko, so it means to reject goncharenko, and to support purtova, that is why i would like to hear your comment, why from goncharenko its bad, from. Ruksana andriivna, you have a wish, lets move on, thank you, this is the 219th, the next one is Nina Petrovna, the number, please, this is Nina Petrovna, can i have it 220, its just which, who is goncharenko, lets go goncharenko, goncharenko, this the same, 223, 226, friends, i once again draw attention to how v the Verkhovna Rada works interestingly for us, well, there is no such thing. Should be, once again, a number of peoples deputies submitted the same amendment, it is logical, it says that the government should consider the possibility of writing off the debt to the state budget from mediumterm loans granted by the local budget, that is, from the central budget to the local budget, well, because they have nothing to give, well, it is clear to everyone, but for some reason, when this amendment was submitted by peoples deputy honcharenko, it was opened. And when it was submitted by peoples deputy purtava last time, it was, and now peoples deputy buzhansky, he is also a servant of the people, so it is taken into account from the servant of the people, and from goncharenko, it is rejected, and also, dear ms. Roxelana said yesterday, what a fool, they say, goncharenko suggests, so it is the same from goncharenko, it is a fool, from bozhanskyi, oleksiy oleksiyovych, for the sake of justice, opposite your 220th, it is written that it is partially taken into account in the Government Order that you are talking about, that is, there is a reference to the fact that it is partially taken into account, okay, please, nina petrivna, what is your correction, yes, please goncharenko, more, yes, yes, goncharenko, more, because it is the same, the 226th amendment, and you said , it has already been addressed, no, i am under 223, i just spoke, and now the 226th amendment, the same, i , you know, we cant do that, right . You, the adults, are sitting here, so honcharenko is partially taken into account, because shpaks amendment is taken into account normally, because the starling, i understand, because he is a servant of the people, well, yes. It shouldnt be, so the same text from goncharenko is a toadstool, and from the servant of the people its candy, well, it doesnt happen like that, well, yes, how can it be, well its its wrong, because you and i are all the same peoples deputies of ukraine, if we say that this is the correct norm, then lets say it in relation to everyone, and it shouldnt be that we simply dont like this honcharenko, we cant eat , thats why we mean everything that is bad for us from him, it shouldnt be like that, im in favor of us having slightly different approaches, thank you for listening, thank you, yes 226, it was an amendment, the next amendment, Nina Petrovna, amendment number , the following amendments, we pass two, three that we will vote on, 275, i want you to explain, to the whole hall, ms. Roxelana, why are you still. Moving away from the principles of limiting wages, limiting labor costs, we talked a lot about it yesterday, i only found out today , it turns out that you agreed there among yourselves and amendments to this draft law, implemented the law on the reform of the remuneration of public employees, which was not adopted in the hall, it is very shameful to look at the fact that you are hiding what you need, bring separate laws to the hall and talk about it, arahamias amendment concerns antimonopoly committee, now restrictions on to the salary of the head, to the head, based on the size of the subsistence minimum up to 30 thousand, what do you want to do, what will you do . Thank you, this is the 275th amendment. Nina petrovna, please, what is your next amendment number . 207 please, this is an amendment of the triticale, i understand that everything must be done so that social standards and norms exist in a more transparent form, so that there is a more rational spending of funds, and here it is proposed to stop for 24 and the year of the first part of article 101 on Electronic Communications is a provision targeted social assistance for receiving communication services, if their cost is not affordable for vulnerable social groups, consumers , please explain, roxel, i really ask you to explain this amendment, what does it mean, how does it apply to socially vulnerable people, i do not understand, you took her into full account, what she gives us, does she harm, does she work for the positive, because i did not take part in your backroom arrangements. Ruksala andriivna, would you like to explain . No. Thank you. Lets go further. What is the next amendment . Nina petrovna . And who will be 285 amendment. 285 please. Everyone is very afraid of nazq and naboo. And i will comment on this amendment myself, because it seems to me that we should all be here with you. Independent, absolutely not to be afraid of any anticorruption infrastructure, and when questions are raised, so as not to spread , the reduced size of the subsistence minimum of uah 2102 when calculating wages for nazk and nabu, please tell me what this is for, why you so serve the amendments and initiatives of Law Enforcement organs, let you be independent, in the end, think, but i yesterday, i was talking about how it was possible to increase the salary by half a billion, for example, the bureau, not the baby, but the state security service, and not Pay Attention to the fact that they are the same, eh, thank you, please, 285, you dont insist, lets go further, the next amendment, nina petrivna. Come on, oleksiy, please, honcharenko, thank you, we will skip the three amendments 300302 later for voting at the end, so amendment 312 means that it says that the new system of these salary calculations does not apply to the apparatus of the Verkhovna Rada of ukraine. Friends, in general, me i want to Pay Attention to what Nina Petrovna just said, this is a very important topic , it means what we did, its generally, well, really, its bullying, it concerns. Chernobyl, it concerns many categories, we say, the minimum wage in the country, there will be 700 hryvnias from january 1, and 800 hryvnias from april 1, a small increase. Well, thank god, at least some kind of increase must be made, but then we say, and we have such an amendment, yesterday, i explained it, and if people sue the state, seeking, for example, chernobyl, it is often happens while seeking compensation, then to calculate the compensation, count five times less, 1,600, well, this is cheating, well , you cant do that, thank you, please, the next amendment, who is goncharenko, the number of the amendment. Yes, this is amendment 324, it is also about the Remuneration Fund for employees of the vru, which is set in the amounts provided for the 23rd year , well, it is clear, yes, that there is no, there is no possibility to raise it, and it is clear that with all due respect, this is our institution, this is the Verkhovna Rada of ukraine, and people here work conscientiously, this is very important for our institution, although not it is always visible from the appearance of deputies and their behavior in the session hall. Well, thats already the case, but friends, we find opportunities to raise the salaries of others, okay, we tell the staff of the Verkhovna Rada that we are not raising them, but why is the salary of the director of the tv channel rada, as it turns out, almost 100,000 uah, 100,000 uah, and the tv channel rada, which does not even broadcast our meetings, today we are hidden, we are not shown, the tv channel rada, which shows anything, except verkhovna ukraine , and for that 1000 hryvnia salary, that is three times more than to yes, thank you, it was amendment 324, next, annina petrivna, number of the amendment, 327 is passed for voting, 335, in the amendment it is indicated that the budget indicators will need to be clarified depending on the adoption of the law 1037, i have. Er, a very big question for everyone in the hall. In fact, we certainly could not have had a First Reading of the 24th budget without passing bill 1037, and it is quite clear that we are now in violation, and when one colleague says that he has not seen a better budget than this one i want to note that in past convocations without adopting the amendments to the tax and customs code necessary for the budget for the next year, which took all the nerves and were also impassable in the hall, we looked for compromises throughout the day, but did not consider, thank you, it was the 335th amendment , next, nina petri, what number, 352 we pass for voting, 367 we i think i want to emphasize once again, without the adoption of 1037 we could not consider in the First Reading this draft budget for the 24th year, i emphasize once again, never in the last nine years when i am present in the hall, i have not seen such a thing. Amendment 367 is an increase in income from the income tax due to an increase in the taxation of banks profits, the law has also not been adopted, it remains to be seen whether it will be adopted, the socalled 10 billion political will of the president to take away, including from private banks to increase the tax rate on profit in the income of the budget, why do you now allow this norm to remain and still be taken into account in this case. I ask that you , ms. Roxelano, answer this question, why you violate the legislation in the part of adoption and consideration in the hall of the law on the state budget. Thank you, it was the 367th amendment, the next one, nina petrivna , please, the number of the amendment, the 430th amendment, also an increase in the revenue part from import vat due to customs reform measures. Yesterday, i told you for a few minutes about the 15 billion increase in the income from gas rent, and you did not even tell me at the working group that you accept the amendments of your colleagues with such motivation. Due to customs reform measures, well this is a finger to the sky, in fact, when i said that 15 billion, take into account, and due to the improvement of the administration of rent payments and reports on deposits, you refused, you refused 15 billion, for that you took into account an amendment that has no basis, this says that the income part is under big question, you have made many false steps. And without the changes to the legislation that you said, nothing can be taken into account in the income part, but how to explain these 16, thank you, what is the next number 430, nobody, nina petrivna, what is the next number, the next amendment, 455, it is for the reduction, taken into account in part, for the reduction of development expenses, yesterday i spoke very, very much about development expenses, i asked you to reconsider, i understand that the Committee Amendment is also authored by the chairman of the committee, it has more force, but please tell me , how did you calculate in this, the very amount, the exact amount of the reduction of development expenses, why did you keep from, the request of each, every, ministry, still a certain amount, what are you going to do, how to develop the ministries, for what did you leave the amounts, and did not direct everything is for defense, and this is the whole secret that this is not a budget. Of martial law, because you are making concessions for the country. Thank you, yes, it was amendment 455 , the next one, please, honcharenko, amendment number, thank you, 456 is being skipped, 463, im just turning to mr. Kornienko, this is his amendment, an absolutely correct amendment, thats how it should. Be. Such amendments should be in the budget. The edit says a new program for the medical and social rehabilitation of servicemen at the fiofania clinical hospital. Right . Feofania should work for military at the beginning of our term, i submitted a corresponding resolution to the Verkhovna Rada. All of them could not consider her that she should work primarily for the military. And the fact that we need to allocate funds for this. And for our heroes to be treated there, this will be the right work for the fiafania hospital, not some , sorry, scoundrels, not some, sorry, nonresidents there, namely the military, and maybe more money will be needed here, even more than 200 million hryvnias for that, to be there, please, oleksandr serhiyevich, the right to reply, yes, oleksii oleksiiovych, thank you for the high evaluation of my work, i would also like to inform you that today on the agenda we will have resolution number 9605 , which is precisely aimed at the fact that feofania can legally, in a legal way, treat not only fighters, lets say in the uos zone , because there is old terminology, old legal norms , all of our already wounded, well, so that it is fully in accordance with the law, it is without discussion, so i think that we must accept it after our Urgent Church issues, it will open feofania has the opportunity and this money to attract its internal resources there to treat all the soldiers, i really agree that now all the power, all the medical equipment should be directed to, first of all, the treatment and then the restoration of prosthetics of our soldiers, restoring them to a normal, full life , because we understand that the veteran policy should be fully implemented in our country, thank you, thank you, please, who is the next amendment, honcharenko . Amendment number, thank you, 466, friends, well, you know, just a moment, well, really joy, thats why what is this unification, this is it, well, it seems, this is how we had, should and work, this is how we should and work, that is, unite around victory, unite around the military, and here there are no, well, no conversations, arguments, everyone supports it, just lets, lets, lets do it. And this is very good, by the way, i want to remind you that in our country we want to keep going , we are often compared to our president zelensky, well, with churchill, well, there is a question, but it means that he likes it and thats all , what the first thing churchill did, when he became Prime Minister in a very difficult time, united with the opposition, created a unified government , what did netanyahu do first, when israel was attacked, called on the opposition, created a unified government of national. Salvation, and what us , we have an Antiwar Coalition in the parliament, and no one has disbanded it, and we are moving like this and we act in unity of the entire parliament, so lets stick to it never forget it, until we win, next amendment, what colleagues . Nina petrivna, amendment number, 482 amendment, too, ms. Roxelanna, i do not understand what is being done with the agroindustrial complex in our country with the ministry and with the 808 million committee, they are asking to increase spending on antiepidemic measures, veterinary and sanitary activities, including preventive and diagnostic c preventive and diagnostic aimed at preventing Infectious Diseases of animals, their detection and elimination. Tell me , please, and earlier at the expense of which funds these measures were carried out, which funds covered such and such work and support, which is obviously needed, but i do not understand exactly why it is being planned now, and you wrote a mandate to the government, this is a necessary item of expenditure in general, is it possible to do without it, almost a billion hryvnias, listen please count on the number of weapons, even the elemental itself. Thank you, please, uh, who, what is the next amendment , Nina Petrovna, please, number, 494 and 502 we skip for voting, 507, new program, payment to Service Employees Court Security by 1. 1 billion hryvnias, i saw that this colleague was present at your working group, i do not know what arguments he gave in order to significantly increase the payment of Court Security employees by 1. 1 billion hryvnias , do you see the economic, or at all, possibility of using such funds, and what do you want the government to do, to consider, to add these funds, just please explain what it is actually for, because it is very doubtful, because it is again a payment labor, they said to you that there should be a taboo for the payment of labor for this year to announce, not to increase, thank you, the following, nina petrivna, amendment number, it was 507 before that, please petri, 511, it concerns the same issue, please, please tell me, here we say that we can social expenses to increase depending on how much we have the opportunity, and at the same time, we increase both the minimum wage and the living wage by absolutely some minimum amounts, and realizing that all citizens understand us, and when we talked about increasing expenses for the same state Property Fund to pay for dismissal, payments are necessary for the exotic, i told you that lets accept the changes, that until the end of martial law, we will not move at all on the payment of labor, it would be very important also in terms of supporting. Our military, who would understand that everything is directed and all attention is focused on them, and not on our loved ones, so it is very important to me that in this, just according to this article and according to the new program, there was, thank you, it was the 511th amendment, the next, who, nina petrivna, goncharenko, amendment number, subsequent amendment number 629, yes, you, we pass it, 629, and we pass amendment 708, because we will put them to a vote, so we go to amendment 716, so these are important things related to education, friends, and this is extremely important, well, extremely it is important, today we started by talking about the preelection program of the servant of the people, there was. One point, the salary of all educators is at least three minimum salaries, today the minimum salary is 6,700, well, that is, if this program of the servant of the people, this is our ruling party today, because with all due respect you say the Antiwar Coalition, well, we have a monomajority, in reality you decide everything yourself, then in our country the salary of an educator should have been at least 20,100 uah, but where are they, where are these salaries of educators in this amount, they are simply not there, eh, it was 716 amendment, which is the next one, goncharenko, number of the amendment, the next amendment, the 724th, and yes, indeed, we do not have uah 2,000 for an educators salary, but how much do we have . Friends, well , as much as we have, sometimes it is a shame to say, we have the salary of a teacher in a kindergarten, maybe it can be four