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This massive brutal animal massacre, well, i dont know, i think that such people who express this publicly should , well, at the very least, at the very least, apologize, because i dont know how to live, how to live, in the same country as people who believe that it is a complete analogue of what happened in buch, in erpin, v izyumi, they believe that it can be justified somehow, you know, if you start to justify it with some historical things, well, putin attacked us, he uses, by the way, together with tykhan shevkunov, he uses exactly the history that seems to them like this, what it should be in their imagination, since istanbul is constantinople, that kyiv is the mother of russian cities, in the sense that it should be, he should be subordinate to moscow, etc. , that is, absolutely such historical fantasies, which, which unfortunately costs so many lives that as in in ukraine, as in israel, this can cause nothing but hatred for evil, for terrorism, for the killing of the civilian population, and i personally express my great sympathy to the people of israel, hold on, i have many friends there who are now collecting help, are gathering, join, whoever can in israel, to there, there is not enough, by the way, armor, not enough socks, for soldiers. Problems, problems everywhere in the world are approximately the same, maybe their scales are slightly different, but when it comes to defending the right in general for the existence of one or another state, there are always not many bulletproof vests. Ayder, its time to add to our conversation, and i would like to welcome arsen zhomadilov, the head of the Army Resource supply agency under the ministry of defense, with us on. The dots in the field that i saw about the agency, which was supposed to start working immediately, set the deadline at the beginning of october, what about the actual launch of the agencys work . Of course, the previous plans called for a faster one the launch and actually the launch in the priority plan, which i presented to the previous minister of defense, we even planned for august, but then due to the fact that the bureaucracy turned out to be quite strong in the sense that our documents did not go through so quickly, this plan was revised with what the agency has, was supposed to be up and running. In october , were basically on the basis of that plan and were moving forward with the fact that all the regulations that have to be approved in order for the agency to be up and running, theyre actually serious right now have made progress and i hope that by the end of the month everything necessary will be approved so that we can start working. Huh, arsen, i like to ask questions, well, thats what i mean. Ordinary citizens, i am one myself, and this question is so precisely what you, what you will do , please tell me what, the work of the ministry of defense, together with the agency that you lead, must and will be different from the work before , and what accents, what are the main areas of work, do you have in mind, that is, how can it be simply and clearly explained to citizens. Of ukraine, which indeed, they constantly say that we need to prevent corruption, especially in defense procurement, especially in everything related to the armed forces of ukraine, so it is very important. Maybe an experts opinion is interesting here . There are two components and they respectively formulate two, two tasks on which we focus. The first task is to ensure the best possible uninterrupted supply for the needs of the armed forces. This is something that we also have quite often, well, often public announcements about the fact that something is missing, that something is arriving, but it is not in the proper amount, or it does not arrive on time. Accordingly, with the creation of this agency, what should we do . We should not just take away the defense procurement function and transfer it to an agency, but we should build the capacity of the government, represented by the ministry of defense of ukraine, to centrally provide for the needs of the armed forces in nonlethal nomenclature. That is, when we talk about the fact that, for example, there are currently not enough armored vehicles, or boats, or walkietalkies, and so on and so forth, it should not be collected later from the bottom line, or from charitable funds, whether at the expense of subventions from the local budget, at the expense of humanitarian aid and International Technical assistance, it must first of all be provided centrally, in order for it to be provided centrally, there must be capacity, capacity in the sense of structures, in the sense of processes and people who are united in one organization that is functionally focused on procuring and delivering everything in a timely manner in the full volume of the appropriate quality. At the moment, we are talking about what the ministry of defense purchases, that is, food, Food Supplies and pmm, i. E fuels and lubricants, but already today we are talking about the fact that this nomenclature will be wider at the expense of partly medical property, and here we are talking about medical products for the needs of the tact. Medicine, first of all, and, i suppose, as soon as we start working , and the ministry, the government will see that there is the ability to purchase centrally, our range will become much wider in order to really cover the needs of the armed forces, this is the first function, the second function, this is the anticorruption function, which you have already mentioned, that as regards the anticorruption function, the creation of an agency separate from the ministry is expedient for one simple reason the ministry is an organization that has existed for ten years, it has a certain internal inertia, which is actually very difficult to overcome, and even if a person comes to the position the head of such a Large Organization that has established processes and practices with good intentions, this person, as a rule , cannot overcome this inertia quickly or in principle. That is, this is the socalled deeppteate, it is sometimes a plus, and sometimes a minus, if corrupt practices are rooted there, then, accordingly, it is very difficult to fight for the middle ground, because you have to, in fact , rebuild the structures, rebuild the processes and hire new people to carry out these new processes within the new structures, as a rule no minister has such a luxury, because the ministry is a ship that already. you have to move it forward already, you cant fire everyone and recruit new people and wait for them to learn something and so on and so forth. Therefore, purely within the limits of managerial logic, it is justified the creation of a new organization externally, which will have a certain period for preparation, which will have a certain period in order to build new processes and structures, to recruit people for these processes in these structures based on. Both the anticorruption component and the professional component, with the fact that so that when this purchasing function was transferred to this new institution, we would have a qualitatively different result of their activity. Ugh, arsen, we understand that the agency is such a subsidiary structure for the ministry of defense, right, it is a structure, which, it is which will have certain defined powers and within these powers it will carry out all that is entrusted to it, that is, it is an unhelpful structure in the sense that it is not clear what the agency will do, for example, in the conditional tomorrow and the day after tomorrow, and so that it does not fall from of the ministry, it will perform it, that is, there is clear legislation that will determine exactly what the agency procures, how it does it, it will perform its function within this mandate, and i would like to remind you that in principle, with the departure from of mr. Reznikovs affairs, six of his deputies were also dismissed, on the other hand, when rusty umyerov became the head of defense, he appointed three people, but, if i am not mistaken and did not miss anything, then just like that, a deputy for rear support has not yet been appointed, which echoes with the topic your agency will be dealing with, right . Indeed, at first the new minister proposed the appointment, i supported the office of three deputies, but this week the appointment of three more deputies took place, and one of them yes, the deputy for rear procurement dmytro klimenkov, who already got down to business, just last thursday, on the same day we met with him, since then we have already held several working meetings, and this issue has moved , uh, that is, to talk about the fact that we. May even have a theoretical collapse in procurement, bidding, all these processes, provision of the army for the near future, it is not possible now, definitely not, the collapse is something that will definitely scare those people, who will say that nothing needs to be changed, nothing, you cant touch anything, because its all so fragile that as soon as we touch it, it will fall and collapse, that is. But in fact, the creation of such an agency, for me, is not the first experience, i understand quite well how it is necessary to ensure the transition of the procurement function from the ministry to the agency in such a way that there are no collapses, so there is an absolutely clear understanding of how to do it, it is planned, and the ministry and we understand how we will move according to this plan, so we follow them. Arsen, well, everyone has Problems Army is there, we can see simply on and many people are surprised that in the Israel Defense forces it turned out that there is not enough armor of bulletproof vests , for example, yes, and how in ukraine people are now collecting ammunition for soldiers there, yes, that is, it all happens, of course in such and such peak moments, but in principle, thanks to your joint work there with the ministry, such situations should not arise, i think that in the end, after a certain period, ukraine itself will become an example of systematic work and provision of the army, which is in constant combat, and i wish you and those with whom you cooperate, the success of cooperation, and the only thing i want to ask you now is not about these things and not as the director of the agency, but as the kremlin, the latest news is not in silence regarding, well , i am not saying that just today was. regular searches in the crimea, in the village of zuya, again and again, 75 of the searches there are representatives of the people of khoromla, the ethnic people of crimea, and our comrade, nariman dzhelal, the first deputy head of the intercommunity of the crimean tatar people, together with two artemov brothers , transferred, actually deported, kidnapped and moved to krasnodar cream. I want to hear your opinion as a public figure, i just as a crimean about it, an opinion about what exactly, as i did not hear the prostader, i heard everything, i did not hear the question, and how do you, how can you comment on it, as a crimean, how, a person who and knows these people personally and in principle has a connection with crimea, at what stage is this terror, these searches, these persecutions of the crimean tatar people there . A very political topic for any crimean tatar, and every such, well, every such search, every such wave, it, it resonates in the heart each. Of us , we all knew and understood that as russia continues to plunge into this war against ukraine, it will increasingly seek an internal enemy and increasingly repress Crimean Tatars, ukrainians and other citizens ukraine, what they are, they understand that the population is not loyal to them. We understand that the only way to put an end to this is to put an end to the occupation of the temporary, autonomous republic of crimea and the city of sevastopol, this is the only solution, no other ways, methods do not work, respectively, we, all those Crimean Tatars who are here today on the mainland of ukraine, we, all of us, or at least very many of us, who are making direct efforts, in order to solve this, this problem at its roots, namely to deoccupy the peninsula, there are a lot of crimeans who are serving in the ranks of the armed forces of ukraine, i myself was in the zsu until recently, now, in the ministry of defense, you know, there is a minister of the Crimean Tatars, eh, for my part, i am also doing what i can in order to bring our common victory closer, because every year we in crimea are getting less and less quantitatively, purely objectively, and every year we are increasingly going into this internal migration, when we are not developing, yes, we are just trying to protect ourselves, but at the same time, we are not we are developing, we are not creating a lot of new things that could testify to the development of the people, lets say so. Thank you arsene for this inclusion, and for the news and understanding of what is currently happening with the Army ResourceManagement Agency under the ministry of defense, the ministry of defense in general, we wish coordinated work of all those responsible, both branches and auxiliary structures, as well as persons involved in the processes, we really hope that our army will be provided with everything necessary. Thank you. Arsen jumadilov, the head of the Army Resource supply agency under the ministry of defense, was in touch with us. Ayder muzhdabaev and i will now take a short break, after which we will add a representative of the naval forces of the armed forces of ukraine to the broadcast and ask how the black sea fleet of the Russian Federation is doing. Pain can become an obstacle on foot stairs, not with my knees, from knee pain, try dolgit cream. Kremgit relieves pain, reduces swelling and improves joint mobility. With longlasting cream. You can also walk. 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Mr. Dmitry, we congratulate you. Glory to ukraine. Greetings from the studio, guests and viewers. And our colleagues were a little ahead of us, and actually you already managed to confirm to them what happened to pavel derzhavin, this is one of the ships that was apparently damaged somewhere in the sevastopol district, the nature of this damage, i understand, we are still studying now, maybe something we are investigating there, we are just trying to find out what is going on, but mr. Dmitry, maybe there are some additional nuances and details that we should know in relation to what this ship is about, what its functions are performed, and how rare is this bird in the black sea fleet, or an ordinary machine, well, in fact, this bird is quite rare, in principle, in the navy of the Russian Federation, the socalled, as far as i remember, four units in total, this is the bybykov class and on the black sea fleet seems to have only two of them, it is the newest ship, it is a ship of the near sea zone, the river and the sea, it is patrol, but it was built in 19 in 20, it was put into service and accordingly it is a very new ship, lets say so, and even , as you can see by its appearance external, copies stealth technology, World Leaders in Naval Construction , how stealth it was, i am not ready to tell you at the moment, i can only say that it is one of those ships that was not lucky enough to remain on patrol. Something, because, as you can see, the russians have dispersed their fleet now, dispersed away from sevastopol, because they do not feel safe there, and this case just confirms their fears, now they are mostly in feodosia and the largest part has been redeployed to novorossiya , because it is officially recognized shores, and they can theoretically feel safer there, although i would like to inform you that any warship in the black sea flying the russian battle flag is a legitimate military target for us. Mr. Dmitry, well, we have already heard and seen a lot of news about the fact that part of the russian, socalled black sea fleet has been relocated, that there will be, well, first of all , the new russians, that they will build a base in the captured. Part of georgia, somewhere there near batumi, here, sorry, sukhumi, i read all these separate news, of course, but i want to you should turn to a high specialist in everything that this means, this is the situation, the actions of the fleet command, the movement of ships , as tactical for us, well, that is, for the next few months, yes, taking into account the fact that the ships are also carriers of missiles, etc. , there are dangers there different, yes, and how, what does this mean strategically, well, its simple, such decisions about moving to other bases quite far away and about the construction of new bases there outside crimea mean something, what will your analysis be on this matter, in fact , everything here is quite simple from the point of view of the military expediency, as you can see, dmytro plettenchuk, the spokesman for the command of the naval forces of the armed forces of ukraine, is in touch with us, the connection is interrupted a little, but i see dmytro and he even moves on our screens, thats good, lets repeat the material, actually , as you can see, now in the Armed Conflict the Russian Federation uses only sea platforms that are on. That is, direct participation in battles, although it is difficult to call it battles, it is shelling, only missile carriers are taken, well , accordingly, it can be ships or submarines, of which there are up to 10, the rest of the ships, the total composition, which is more than 30 units , only the ships that are still in service, they do not take a direct part, that is, they are actually, now unemployed in some sense, so they sometimes accompany their. Ships that leave the bosphorus, return from syria, or on the contrary go to syria, this is the socalled syrian express, which they use to kill the inhabitants of another country, accordingly, there is no point in risking them, and that is why they they are dispersed, of course, because they are they feel a danger for them, and this has a basis that allows this movement to achieve what . Well, first of all , the physical distance increases. Of course, the reaction time increases, and accordingly it is easier for them to control that part of the water area, for example. When they deploy something to the sea of azov, of course, they establish such a substitute method, the socalled kerch bridge, er, these ships, the Border Guards are already there, they form an additional such barrier, because they are the city itself. Guards to quite tightly, and as for statements regarding the possible construction of another naval base in sukhum, well, first of all, this is only rhetoric so far, this is an invitation directly from the head of this separatist enclave, and these may be political statements, there may be some sense in principle in this, as well as increasing the distance, in the same way, create another stress point. In the black sea, accordingly, we should not forget that we have already seen two conflicts on the territory of georgia, and of course they can somehow try to play some new game in these water areas, that is, create another location, where they will be present, well, at the moment we dont have any confirmation about the real plans, about the development, and we should not forget that there will be quite complex logistics, because in fact it will only be by sea, and it is quite long and quite difficult, of course it is not the most expensive way is logistical, however, so we dont even see the point of it yet. To talk about this base , it was there, the cyclone, by the way, this is the last ship that they took into service, but it has already left there, it stayed there for a couple of days, they celebrated their next separatist party there the 30th anniversary celebration, if im not mistaken, and after that he returned to the base point , yes, dmitry, a small question, but an important one, here i read the news that the summits of defense ministers of. Nato countries concluded an agreement between turkey, bulgaria, romania regarding demining the black sea, what does it mean for us . Well, i am not ready to confirm the information to you yet, i can only note that we were very hopeful that before our mine action, before our mine action, which we are already planning, i would like to remind you that we are planning a fullscale operation demining the waters of the black sea at the first opportunity, our western partners, our black sea neighbors will join in, and if all these facts are confirmed at the official level in our country, it will be great news, and it will significantly speed up the process of restoring maritime communication routes , that is, shipping channels in our black sea, because for ukraine, which i emphasize , the sea is the main export and import channel, before the fullscale invasion, it accounted for about 90 of our exports and imports of our country. Dmitry, we have literally two more minutes, i dont know if you monitor the activity, so to speak, in quotation marks of colleagues, the russians and and and their all these naval actions there. But the latest news related to the commander of the black sea fleet, sokolov, was in the public space about two weeks ago, well, there is no longer even an attempt by the russians to assure us that he is alive, we have to draw some conclusion, maybe there is some more info if not then no we are currently waiting for confirmation that we just played black jezek with them lose. Our frigate, i apologize, the flagship, to lose the command post, to lose the headquarters and to add the commander , it really should be washed away, it is simply worth putting three dots here, thank you, thank you dmytro, dmytro pletenchuk, spokesman for the command of the naval forces of the armed forces of ukraine, was from by us in connection with the situation in the black sea and the situation with the black sea fleet of the Russian Federation in the currently occupied crimea. Ayder, thank you for. This conversation again, Ayder Muzhdabayev and Khrystyna Yatskiv were together with you beraber in the joint project of espresso tv channel and atp. Stay with espresso in the future, my colleagues are waiting for you with news, and im not saying goodbye. Its 2 p. M. In ukraine, news release on the espresso tv channel, in the studio of iryna koval, welcome to all viewers. During the rocket attack on the village of groza, in the kharkiv region, the russians killed 59 people. The bodies of all the victims have already been identified, the head of the ministry of internal Affairs Ihor Klymenko said. Let me remind you that on october 5, russian terrorists hit a store and cafe where a Memorial Dinner was held with an iskander. The Security Service of ukraine found out who fired the rocket. These are two local brothers who are currently hiding in russia. At the time of the attack, they were in the territory of the bilhora region. So Law Enforcement officers are currently looking for people who provided them with information about a planned mass event in the village. The russians hit a childrens