First aid. Work until the arrival of the main forces, forces of the state Emergency Service. And when we talk about these volunteer units, what exactly are we talking about, when we talk from the point of view of technical equipment, number, powers, opportunities, what kind of structure is it in general, how is it integrated, well, into the life of our communities, on certain examples . Ah, i can say that it is integrated legislatively, and recently, thanks to the joint efforts of the sna, the ministry of internal affairs, as well as the deputy corps of the verkhovna rada, it was possible to make changes to a number of laws, and by the way, this work continues, but those the changes that have been made have made it possible to regulate the role, functions, and powers of volunteers in more detail, volunteers are included in the response system of the state Emergency Service, by including them in the engagement plans, the socalled forces and means, this allows. The dinner of the state Emergency Service to involve our colleagues for performance of certain tasks related to fire extinguishing, liquidation of the consequences of other emergency situations. Now we can talk about the presence of more than a thousand units of local and voluntary Fire Protection, and almost all of them are included in the plans for attracting forces and resources and are involved in extinguishing , including fires, and there is also another important segment, which is the implementation of clarifying work with the population on the territory of those communities where they were created. In particular, i will say one number, it will say a lot, for example, in the 22nd year, since the beginning of the invasion, the armed aggressor, these units have been involved more than 11,000 times for departures and liquidation of the consequences of emergency situations. That is, we can imagine that help. The state and the national Emergency Service, in particular, which our volunteer colleagues provide, and these are volunteer structures , what they are provided with, how many people are usually there in a particular community, to talk about the fact that such a volunteer unit has really been created, which can really effectively perform tasks when a fire actually occurs, which are so typical a picture of such a volunteer unit. The picture is as follows, on average, somewhere around 10 volunteers, we would recommend in order to talk about a combatready, effective unit. Along with this, different situations , absolutely, some communities have a unit in which there are 47, for example, volunteers, some where there are 34, but if these 34 volunteers, well, they are very. Active , lets say, and are focused on the result, and they live by it, then such units are also quite effective, therefore, there are certain recommendations, but situations in the state are different, it affects directly, or rather, it depends directly on which community, how Cohesive Society is in this community, but i want to say that where such subdivisions are created, you can observe how much society is united around these subdivisions , around the tasks they perform, and this greatly contributes to such unity, that is, precisely in the context and precisely, on the territory of individual communities. And by the way, what is primary is the creation of such subdivisions, or when there is an active community that makes good decisions there are current problems, then there are such volunteer fire brigades, if the community there is more leftwing, then probably it is quite difficult to achieve consolidation, the formation of such fire brigades is probably quite difficult, or some examples of the most such, well, such cool volunteer fire brigades, who have everything, including the most modern machines there, good training and there, well, and really cope with such challenges that our enemy sometimes brings us there, you are definitely right, it all depends on the people in the community, because people, well, this is the main thing, this is the basis on which the unit is built in principle, now i will deviate a little from the topic, now the state, by making changes, again. The legislation provides certain opportunities for communities to create units, er, i am talking about the fact that now the state Emergency Service, in particular, has the right to transfer the equipment that we do not use now from the state to the ownership of the communities, and this continues now, much more than 100 pieces of equipment have already been transferred, they are all transferred to the communities for the needs of voluntary and local units, and is currently being considered for. At the level of the cabinet of ministers, several hundred more sets of documents for such equipment, which was released as a result of the technical reequipment of our units, both at the expense of state purchases and at the expense of definitely humanitarian aid, which was very powerfully provided to us by our international colleagues, partners and between , governmental international organizations, therefore , of course, there are various divisions. Uh, i honestly wouldnt want to single anyone out like that , but if you insist, id call, for example, uh, a Division Volunteer fire brigade in the village of dertsen, this is the transcarpathian region, there are about 405 people on the register as volunteers, and several units of different equipment for appropriate response to emergency situations and events, such a community is very powerful, so many other regions follow this principle , cherkasy, rivne, kirovohrad, well, almost, in almost all regions there is, give an example, positive experience in this regard, and you mentioned foreign aid, i would like you to tell about it in more detail, and about foreign experience, are there volunteer fire brigades in other countries, how are they financed, how do they exist, is there something that we should take as a basis, or are there any things that are unique to our country . Well , of course, it was precisely the study of foreign experience that served as the reason why the development of this direction became such a priority in our country. In particular, the number of volunteers, for example, in the republic of poland is over 600,000 people, that is, it is a very large community. Volunteers, in germany there are even more, there are more than 102,000 people, i i can say that the response in these two countries, at least in european countries, is in principle carried out at the expense of voluntary Fire Protection, and the units are stateowned, corresponding, they function in a very limited format and exclusively as auxiliary forces, on the contrary, in our country so far the basis is the dss unit, but we are developing a community of volunteers so that we can provide a joint, consolidated response in the state, and of course, our International Partners provide a lot of help, directly volunteers, several projects are being implemented, in particular, one can note among the partners who provide such powerful and systematic assistance , this is the usiid goverwa project, this is the fund of the International Republic of poland, this is the Un Development program in ukraine and, therefore, the Eastern Europe fund, others, other donors, who provide assistance, i apologize if i did not mention anyone, but i named the main ones, this is a systematic work that has been going on for years, it consists both in training our volunteers and in providing them, that is, with combat clothing, equipment and firefighter the techniques are the following elements, in fact, right now it is already underway, in the republic of poland, for example, the training of the fourth group of 15 volunteers, three such groups have already learned from different regions of ukraine, and this work continues, and i hope that our International Partners they see progress, at least we see it, it is reflected in the increase in the number of such mines even in conditions of armed aggression. I want to give another example, kherson oblast, a territory that was deoccupied, that is, you know, completely, yes, the region was captured there. Was all or looted or broken bombed. To date, more than 10 units of local and voluntary Fire Protection have been established in this region, which means that people understand the importance of timely response to emergency situations. Mr. Viktor, thank you very much for joining our broadcast. I hope that after the event in kyiv, we will receive additional information, additional impetus for the fact that such voluntary associations were created in ukraine, i will remind our viewers that it was viktor vytovetskyi, director of the Department Organization of Civil Protection measures of the state emergency situations. 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In which we talk about the fact that our communities should have more opportunities to independently fight the challenges produced by the russian federation, which directs drones and missiles at our cities, as a result of which houses are destroyed, fires start, and every community, as we hope it should have the ability to fight independently, in particular with the same fires , but do we have enough equipment for this, or is there an industry that can provide our communities with such equipment, we will talk about this in the next block of our program, see you ihor nezhivenko joins, this is the commercial director of tovpozhmashina, mr. Ihor, congratulations. I am glad to see and hear from you, thank you for inviting me, but i would like to start with whether we have an understanding of the general need of our state Emergency Service and our communities for fire engines, how many are needed, what in fact, they have and where we should move in this direction, so the first thing i want to say is the need, i think the employees of the state Emergency Service themselves know best the systems. Dss, of course, we conduct our constant monitoring , we monitor the situation, because we are manufacturers of fire and rescue equipment , of various models, various modifications, for various purposes, the need really exists, the need has increased significantly since the beginning of the war between russia and ukraine, because losses quite significant, this is about a thousand units of food rescue equipment, these are destroyed or damaged. According to the fire department, this losses, unfortunately, among rescuers, that is, this is a rather big problem, the workload of the service has increased significantly and increased many times , this is firstly, secondly, their field of activity has expanded significantly, challenges in the direction of not only conducting, extinguishing fires, eliminating consequences of bombings, demining was added, this is extraordinary. Complex, difficult and dangerous work, i. E. The challenges in the service have increased significantly, the needs have increased accordingly, these are the needs both in technology and in special equipment and multifaceted technology, starting from city firefighting vehicles, ending with machines for demining, eliminating the consequences of fires, explosions, and so on, in fact, we estimate the need for today, it is more than 3 vehicles, this is taking into account the fact that a large part of the park, a large part of the park, fire and rescue equipment it is outdated, well, lets not, they say, well, lets be honest, that financing, services, in our opinion, were carried out according to the final principle, that is , there was practically no updating of the park, no deliveries, purchases, or rather, no systems of fire and nonfire ladders. Not other equipment, or, if they were carried out, they were minimal, minimal purchases, for now , well, time has shown that we need to be ready for these consequences, mr. Igor, you said about 3,000 machines, this is the estimated need of the state Emergency Service itself, but we we also add the need of the communities, because before you i spoke with the representative of the state Emergency Service, who spoke about the fact that this movement, in the communities, regarding the creation of such voluntary associations that are capable of fighting fires and extreme situations, it also needs certain technical support, so does this mean that in fact the fire engine market should be added in this segment as well . Er, without a doubt, in the communities, we believe that the situation is unfortunately deplorable, er, because those fire stations, those volunteer firefighters er, wives who existed, who were, well, lets say this, for. in soviet times, for some time they were stored there at village councils, at farms, they have already been practically destroyed, that is , there is practically no equipment in the communities, especially in rural areas, this is a big problem, and accordingly now the communities they are trying, somehow, somehow, to fill these gaps, but without a real program, without real support from the state, help, well, it is quite difficult to do, the purchase of Community Equipment can be afforded by those who have, well, quite serious finances, that is, it first of all, communities are large, these are large cities, er, large settlements, where the budget allows to do this, and as for small cities, district centers, especially villages and rural areas, the situation there is generally very deplorable, i will say this , which, sorry, for according to our. Data at the moment, the exit, as we say, or the rescuers say, the shoulder of the exit in some parts, from the location of the devouring equipment to the place of the call is even more than 3040 km, and this is the time of arrival to the call, the place of the call , accordingly, by the time they arrive, it is already there , i think, it is clear what the consequences of the fire are, your company is such a leading manufacturer of fire equipment, and regarding the statistics of purchases by our state bodies and purchases by communities, is there any such data as allow talk about what, well, actually, purchases. By communities are so minimal that it is necessary to develop some appropriate programs that would stimulate the purchase of fire engines specifically for communities, compared to the purchases that are currently carried out by the state Emergency Service , which are carried out by communities, it is hundreds of times less, that is, these are units equipment, these are really units of equipment, for this year, i will say that these communities were able to purchase no more throughout ukraine, i emphasize, throughout. Units of equipment. And about these cars that communities buy, should we talk about some unified sample there, which would be optimal from the point of view of quality, speed of production and functional needs for performing tasks, i. E. Come to some typical type order, which will simplify many processes, from the price to the time of production. Without a doubt, this is a very correct direction and we absolutely support it, why, because there are three factors that influence here, firstly for the communities, this is the financial component, that is , communities, mm, well, the majority, mainly more communities allocate significant Financial Resources to procurement cannot, er, secondly, it means that unification, lets say so, or bringing to some common requirements, would greatly simplify the manufacturing process, the process of purchasing basic chassis, necessary materials and significantly shorten the manufacturing period, that is, without a doubt, we consider this to be the right direction, i. E. To have some kind of unified car, uh, which would allow us to perform its functions, technical characteristics, parameters, we understand, because we constantly communicate with community representatives, we constantly communicate with rescuers, we understand what they need, and we are ready to manufacture, provide, supply it. But unfortunately, as i said, most communities simply cannot do this, from a financial point of view, state support in this direction is necessary at least, leasing programs, there are compensations for communities, if they work in the direction of Security Development , lending with minimal interest, that is, there is a lot to work on, mr. Igor, and what is the current load on your company, or the amount that comes from the state Emergency Service, other structures, well, does it meet your needs, or you you can really make much more fire trucks or other specialized machines, which means we can definitely make more, definitely , that is, the Production Capacity of the enterprise allows it to be done, that is, there is a qualified staff, there is the necessary equipment, new production lines are installed, that is, there is something, there is someone to work , there is an excellent design department, that is, all. Systems that ensure the process of development and implementation of serial production are available and they work clearly, in relation to the number of releases, without a doubt we can do it to increase, many times over, but again, there must be, there must be understanding from the state as well, first of all, unfortunately, i would call this, well, lets put it this way, without. Systematicity, frankly, lack of system in purchases, why . Because we are tied to the Financial Year first, that is, the tenders start in the middle of the year, and the delivery must be made by the end of the year. The manufacturing process, for example, in european countries, of hojer equipment lasts from one to two years, and we have to provide it there in four, five, six, maximum seven months mr. Igor, but now about the processes of procurement of components, how the war affected these areas, whether it became more difficult to negotiate with suppliers, or whether there are any such difficulties that must be taken into account, or really ensure such highquality planning for the production of serial machines, it played a very negative role role, of course, the war, well, as well as on the entire ukrainian society, i. E. , supply chains were broken, the attitude of suppliers is significant, well, lets say, the requirements for suppliers have become much stricter, i. E. Everyone demands 100 advance payment before shipment, for whatever reasons , of course this played a negative role, but we did not, but we find ways out of this situation and we do not disrupt the terms of the contracts, and at the same time you have to compete with the supply in ukraine of foreignmade fire engines, are there any deliveries from other manufacturers who, in principle, offer either similar equipment or different equipment, but also compete for those tenders that are announced there by the state Emergency Service or other Law Enforcement agencies, so there are the desire of many. Manufacturers, such as european manufacturers, these are manufacturers from poland, from germany, from austria, from turkey, they are already taking part in tenders, they are already trying to offer their products, but, thanks to what we have tightened, in fact carried out a very deep reconstruction, modernization of our production, we have already reached, i do not hesitate to say this word to the european level of production, this is, firstly, secondly, we respond more actively to the Necessary Services of the state Emergency Service than manufacturers from other countries , ee to competition from our side we are definitely ready, we have already competed with them in tenders, the victory was on our side and will be in the future. Are you planning to enter foreign markets yourself, offering your products to other countries . This is in the plans, we are currently looking at, say, the markets of other countries, until the 14th year, the percentage of our sales for export was about 40 to 70 of the total volume of products that we manufactured, that is, a large part of our products went to export, er, yes, these were the countries of the neighbor, as they say abroad, these are kazakhstan, uzbekistan, turkmenistan, georgia, burma, er, partly belarus, that is, we closed these markets and competed there quite successfully, mr. Igor, but how now are the mobilization processes affecting your personnel, does it affect the technological Manufacturing Processes of certain machines . Without a doubt influences, so we now have 123 of our employees in the armed forces, serving and fighting. That is , those who are mobilized, serve, fight, of course we try, well, we dont try, but we work to ensure that to ensure the reservation of our employees, and we succeed in this, but still there are categories of employees who are not subject to reservation , we have a number of engineers, engineers, technologists who had a military officer education, well, a military department, they are now mobilized, fighting on the front, that is, it also, unfortunately, affected our production capabilities, but no, lets say this, not radically, mr. Igor, thank you very much for the inclusion, for these explanations, there is the fact that we really have the potential for manufacturing samples that our forces also need structures, and our communities, and let me remind you that it was igor not. The commercial director of tovpozhmashya, which manufactures, we see highquality samples of equipment, and the main conclusion is that in any case, our territorial communities should rely on help of the state, on the one hand, and on the other hand, on its own initiative and on its own activity, and this will really be the first, basic element in order to resist enemy aggression in various manifestations, so that unity, activity and reliance on our industrial potential, allows us to really feel that our. Communities will be protected, this is the conclusion that can be made related to communication with our guests, and then the broadcast will continue with the news, stay tuned to the espresso channel. In ukraine, at 2 00 p. M. , a news release on the espresso tv channel in the studio of iryna koval is coming to your attention, greetings to all viewers. The victims of the babi yar tragedy were never again honored in kyiv. In the morning , people bring flowers to the memorial in the capital. Exactly 82 years ago, on september 29 and 30, the nazis shot jews en masse in kiev. According to the ukrainian institute