That the punishment should be inevitable. Effective punishment is not a more severe punishment, but the knowledge to the offender that he will be convicted of a criminal act, and he must prove to society that he has reformed. Probation supervision, entered no just like that, probationary supervision of the introduction of probationary supervision as a type of punishment, alternative, one more, by the way, in addition to those that exist today, is in the criminal legislation of ukraine, this is an additional type of alternative punishment, and it was introduced as part of the strategy, if someone does not remember, then i will remind you that in december 2022 the strategy of reforming the penitentiary system was approved, which indeed included the expansion of alternative types of punishment for unloading deprivation of liberty, if in simple words from people who are not there should be, that is, their stay there will not improve their lives and will not improve the prospects of their correction, and these are the changes that were made, are they only for the period of martial law, or will they also be after martial law . And after martial law, they will work postwar and ive already heard a lot of opinions today that this is not punishment at all, its a lack of control, its a lack of tough response, compared to prisons, wait, what tough response do we want in prisons . Were talking about prisons an unacceptable beating, we say that today we are carrying out the decision of the european court, how tough do we want, we want the correction of the person, but tell me, please, how many chances to correct if he goes to prison and loses his family, loses a job, loses positive social connections, loses health, loses some psychological aspects, loses, loses, loses, although it does not pose a great danger specifically to the life and health of people in society, those articles that you mentioned, those articles in which are entered on today changes, where probation supervision is implemented, it is a crime. Misdemeanors, it is not for all actions, these articles provide for alternatives, only for the least harmful criminal actions, for which alternatives were already applied in the form of a fine, in the form of Community Service, in in the form of correctional works, but is it more effective to pay than to be under the control of probation authorities for several years, and this is not just yes. And how will this new type of punishment affect the work of the Law Enforcement system, for example, judges, to what extent they are now reporting to themselves how to actually condemn and decide to pass judgments, that is , it will be something new for them, or, after all, in the work of judges, for example, it does not change anything, it just gives them the possibility of an alternative on the essence of the measure of punishment, it is absolutely true, the judge, when imposing the punishment, must be sure that it is sufficient and necessary for the correction of the person. In some cases, when the judge sees that a person does not deserve, or his action does not deserve isolation from society and does not have such needs, the judge looks at the list of alternatives, but sometimes doing Community Service , that is, a certain amount of unpaid work for the good of society, is considered insufficient for the judge, he is not sure that this person. Will correct himself while doing just Community Service in society. When the judge sees that duties can be applied to this person, for example, as you called it, yes, it is a certain control over his actions, wearing an electronic means of control at a certain time, it is a restriction, a Certain Movement of communication, it is employment, very it is important, this is the passage of special probation programs, this is the passage of treatment, if there are addictions, then the judge is more sure that this person will be influenced, and this influence will be exerted from one to five years, i. Emphasize probation supervision its five years, its not just marks in the probation authorities, its individual work with a person, and visiting him at his place of residence, work and study, i have to interrupt you, because we have literally one and a half minutes and two important questions, a corruption component, to what extent this will free the hands of those who like to make dishonest money there, lets say so, in order to somehow take advantage of this probationary supervision with this new alternative measure of punishment, well, i dont know conditionally judges, Law Enforcement officers who will go to court, actually with proposals how to act and the like . Eh, no, no, nothing will solve anyone, i think that, moreover, it, precisely because it is not just a fine, yes, lets determine a certain amount, the person will pay everything, and everything was forgotten, no, this, a certain time, moreover, a person, after the end, successful the end of the sentence in the form of probation supervision is not a violation of his requirements and fulfillment of all duties , he still has a criminal record, he is not considered unconvicted, and this will affect his future fate if he continues to violate the law, and this probation supervision will be after how will the Court Decision be carried out by the ordinary police, will some separate body or Court Security service be created, who will be responsible for it, bodies, authorities, probation authorities currently carry out this control, that is, it is a separate structure. Yes, this is a separate structure, 3,500 people, in each administrativeterritorial unit, in each administrativeterritorial unit, there are, uh, inspectors, employees of authorized bodies on probation issues, who individually work with people, and have a number of powers. And also regarding those who are already serving such punishment for collaborationism, to what extent is this an appropriate measure, the actual punishment for people who conditionally cooperated with the occupation authorities, and so on, to what extent. Solutions that are of all points of view correctly made . You know, this issue is very acute, because they are not serving a sentence in the form of probation supervision, unfortunately, but they are under the supervision of the authorized authorities on probation matters, and we only serve sentences for people who are prohibited from engaging in certain activities or prohibited from occupying certain positions, we exercise control only in the part of fences where they can find employment and engage in certain activities. We wanted them to be subject to approbation supervision, but unfortunately, the legislator did not respond positively at our request, so we will simply monitor for 10 years so that this person is not employed somewhere and does not do anything, but we have the authority to work with him individually and demand something, apart from that, we unfortunately do not have. Today, but i think , it will change in the process, we will still insist that they can be applied to a certain list of duties that they were required to perform, we have methodologies, we have a list of duties that can affect them , and for now we just control that they do not work anywhere a complex topic, there is a lot to understand here, because you have to explain everything very, very carefully, we thank you for the fact that you were able to convey to ukrainians an understanding of how it will work so briefly, at least as far as airtime allows us, oleg yanchuk , director of the state institution probation center, our guest, we talked about the new system of punishment that will operate in ukraine. Already six countries besides ukraine have joined the boycott of uefa competitions, and this list can be updated right now, karins statements came after the Uefa Executive Committee decided to return russian teams in the youth category to participation in tournaments this season with certain rules. Uefa explained such a decision by the fact that the ban on the participation of russian children in competitions is discrimination. Uefa is also aware that children should not be punished for actions for which adults are solely responsible, and firmly believes that football should not stop sending messages of peace and hope. All matches of russian teams must be played without the countrys flag, the anthem of the National Team and not on the territory of russia. At the same time, according to uefa president oleksandr. Ceferina, the unions ban on the participation of adult russian players shows its commitment to the position against violence and aggression, it was a quote, he claims that this rule will be maintained until the end of the war. The Ukrainian Football Association immediately criticized this decision, refused to compete with russian citizens, called on uefa and fifa to maintain existing restrictions against russian athletes. The Ukrainian Football Association calls on other uefa Member Associations to boycott possible matches with the participation of teams from the Russian Federation in case of their admission, because the adoption of such decisions regarding russian teams against the background of russian hostilities against ukraine is groundless and such that it tolerates russias aggressive policy. Ukraine has already been supported by england, poland, lithuania, latvia, sweden and denmark, and other countries may join this list. This is how they justify their decisions in official statements. If russian National Teams are allowed to participate in competitions, our National Teams will not play with them. This is the only one correct decision. We do not support the admission of russia to uefa age category competitions. Our position remains unchanged, collection. England will not play against russia. The Latvian Football Federation confirms that Latvian National football teams of all levels will not play against russian teams, regardless of the venue of such games or the form of representation of russian athletes. And it is worth adding that the russian side did not comment on uefas decision to allow the participation of its own athletes in the youth category to the competition, nor did it comment on the boycotts from different countries. I will only remind you that in february of the 22nd year, international. The Olympic Committee recommended that International Sports federations exclude citizens of russia and belarus from the competition due to the war in ukraine. Most of the federations, including fifa and uefa, followed the recommendations of the international Olympic Committee. Zhan belyniuk, olympic champion of 2020, peoples deputy of ukraine joins our broadcast. I welcome you. Greetings, good morning. The return of russian u17 Football Players, actually to international competitions, lets go even under a neutral flag, as it sounds officially. This is again about sports outside of politics, what is the cause of such a decision by uefa, from your point of view, a serious russian lobby, which may be working there, one hundred percent russian lobby is working, and you know, they cant allow everyone to play like that, on a full scale, right away, i i think that this is such a creeping creeping return of russian athletes, i. E. Now one age category, then another young girl and then already. Questions will be raised about the participation of adult representatives as well terrorist countries in these competitions, so i think that there is absolutely no need to give in here , we should try to form a coalition of such countries that support ukraine, are in solidarity with us and will not be ready to participate in competitions where the russians are present, this is in the best release, i understand that those of those statements that they have now announced that they simply will not take, will not play directly with russia, but they will participate in tournaments, as far as i can see, that is what should be done hard position about these kind of trends, because of course theyre probing how much, how much they can go one way or the other, sir, lets simulate the situation, theres this boycott baton, as you. Said about not playing representatives of england, poland, and latvia, for example, with the russian youth teams, if this happens, and they will boycott, but the russian teams themselves will still be allowed to compete, how can this affect in general what will happen in the world of sports . Need to see how it can be for us , for us, the best option is for uefa representatives to understand that the Critical Mass. Of teams from different countries, they simply will not compete and therefore there will be no reason at all to include this socalled neutral team , to international competitions, that is, if it is one match, for example there at some stage, or they will be able to form a grid, in such a way that the neutral russian team does not get representatives who can potentially. Not you do not enter the field , to play with them, then they can thus bypass and in principle, all other teams will play among themselves, and russia will play only with those teams that can go against them on the field, so we need to generate a pool of the largest possible teams around us, so that they know exactly what such a , if, if the majority of the teams will not. Go out, then i think that uefa will definitely make a decision that, well, it is definitely not, not in time, if it will be six, well, six is already, it is not us anymore alone, its not bad, you just have to keep working, from the Football Federation to increase the number of teams potentially ready for it. That is, in essence, you believe that this boycott, this relay of boycott, which is passed from country to country, it can influence the fact that the governing bodies of uefa change their decision and forbid the russian Football Players of the youth National Team, in particular, to participate at all in international competitions. If the Critical Mass gets that, that position that will make these uhuh this admission uhuh very painful for the same uefa, then i think yes, that they will somehow be able to uhuh roll it back. The only that, i think that maximum work is currently being done on their part, there are certain agreements with other countries, that is, they are also not sitting still and are also working out these possible options, that is , which i have already stated, that is, they are forming their own coalition. A coalition of ukrainians who are ready to leave, ready to compete with them, and in order to show them, well, these will not be, but we have a list of countries that will definitely be, on which we can count, who are we in this case like, how do they support, here we are, our conversation started with the fact that you said that this is the russian lobby, actually in the context of football competitions for example, and what other International Sports associations, federations have not yet taken a clear position regarding the participation of russian athletes in competitions, taking into account a largescale war, be it youth National Teams, let it be adult National Teams, that is, which other federations are hesitating, or are they more inclined to russia in this context . Well, i will tell you that after the new recommendations, because you voiced the recommendations of the international Olympic Committee, which were given at the beginning of the fullscale invasion in february 22nd, so in april 23rd, the international Olympic Committee has already changed its recommendations, and now, according to the current recommendations, it, they admit, athletes , individual athletes, not teams , by the way, what we see directly here in the situation with football, individual , socalled neutral athletes, who uh, no, from their point of view, do not support the war, although we see that many there are abuses, in this. plan, and we see a lot athletes who, we find photos, where they stand and support there, their russian military, are called to donate weapons and all necessary equipment to these military, and then they are allowed to compete, that is, it is not clear how this happens, but nevertheless, there are currently new recommendations , and according to this, with these recommendations, a large number of International Federations are now waiting for and have already admitted representatives of russia and the federation, the Russian Federation, precisely under the socalled neutral status to of International Sports, unfortunately, we have such a situation that a few days ago i traveled from the world championship, where russians and belarusians were present, they performed under a neutral flag, and of course, in russia, everyone perceives them as their own, and everyone knows, in fact, that these are russian athletes, but it is not heard. They dont have any symbols on their uniforms, leotards and so on and so on, but we all understand that they are russians. Thank you, thank you for this inclusion, zhan belynyuk, olympic champion of 2020, peoples deputy of ukraine, our guest is us they talked about how events will develop in the actual football arena, where youth National Teams from russia were allowed, in particular, to participate in international competitions. Due to hostilities, as well as for other reasons , 398 settlements in ukraine remain without electricity , ukrenergo announced, and the networks of oblenergoDonetsk Region, dnipropetrovsk region, Kharkiv Region and kherson region are damaged due to the fighting. The restoration of power, vukrenergo adds , takes place under the security situation and with the permission of the military. Currently , ukrenergos Energy Facilities are equipped with two types protection, it is passive and active, says ukrenergo. The company also calculated how much money is needed to fully restore ukraines Energy System. According to the head of ukren. Volodymyr kudrytskyi, the company has already attracted more than a billion dollars from western partners to repair the Energy Infrastructure, but several hundred Million Dollars more are needed. Active defense is an air defense system, passive engineering fortifications. According to ukrenergo, this type of protection will be used for the first time in the world. The stateowned enterprise also reported that as of today, the Trunk Network is ready to transfer the winter loads to the Ukrainian Energy system, but without the import of electricity. The season will be, i quote difficult to pass. We talk about this topic in more detail with our guest, volodymyr kudrytskyi, chairman of the board of ukrenergo, who is already joining our broadcast. I welcome you. Good morning. Thank you for finding the opportunity and time to join, here is a question that everyone is interested in, that i hear, and in this context , i would like to start our conversation, whether ukrainians should wait for the power outage schedules and whether for example, it is already possible to navigate what these schedules will be, how many hours you might have to sit without electricity, or with what frequency these schedules will be applied and under what conditions . I would like everyone to understand correctly, we are not currently planning any schedules at all. There are no restrictions on the region, indeed, in the last couple of weeks, together with the ministry of energy, other Energy Companies have updated schedules, lists of consumers who may be disconnected in the event of an emergency, but this does not mean that we are going to introduce any schedules, now during september and october , according to our forecasts, the situation in the Energy System will be balanced, this means that the capacity, capacities of ukrainian power plants will be quite sufficient to cover consumption, this is due to the fact that that Additional Nuclear units and heat generation units are already coming out of the repair, consumption still remains, well , in such a light summer mode, with cooling and Heating Systems being turned on, consumption will increase, and from november, from december we will really need to sometimes import electricity from europe to feel calm, but this is a scenario of course without shelling, if, if some kind of massive Missile Campaign against the Energy Giants starts, as it happened last year, it can fundamentally change the situation. Please tell me in which settlements the situation is the most difficult as of today, it is possible with the restoration of the Energy Infrastructure after the russian attacks, these are the frontline areas and settlements that are in close proximity to the front line, i would say on the distance of an artillery shot, that is where it is most difficult for Energy Workers to carry out work, because first of all, the territory is constantly bombarded, in order to carry out repairs, it is necessary to involve special equipment, it is immediately the enemy, unfortunately, it is identified and very often repair brigades that go to repair something in these areas, they are also under fire, so all Energy Workers are coordinated with the military in order to perform this type of work. In the rest of the territory of ukraine with the restoration of networks, there is no problem, you said correctly, i confirm that the Trunk Network operated by ukrenergo is currently ready for winter loads. But there are populated areas, perhaps if it is even a frontline zone, where there is no electricity. For weeks, maybe months, there is simply no way even for specialists to get there, in order to restore this infrastructure necessary for the light to be there. You know, i will definitely not tell you about the terms there for each settlement, of course, but there really are, for example, in the kherson region, in the Donetsk Region , such districts, such settlements, where, well a very difficult situation with electricity supply, due to the configuration of the network and the proximity of the front, autonomous Power Sources are used there, these are diesel generators, that is , the local authorities are already finding alternative solutions in order to provide some basic services to the people, please tell me, heres more regarding the restoration of the power system, in which regions, perhaps in some localities, it is not subject to restoration at all, after, for example, the russian attacks were carried out, or are there no such ones . Subject to restoration everything and we will restore everything, it is another matter that if we talk about some ukrenergo substations there, probably also some power plants of our colleagues from other Energy Companies, they will be restored in a somewhat modernized or changed format, well, that is, depending on what we have compared with the moment when these objects were built, it could have been. The 60s70s , for example, the years of the last century, now the loads may be different, and in general the role of these objects in the network may have already evolved, especially this concerns territories that ukraine deoccupies, there we will already restore networks in a slightly different format on other voltage classes, for example, we plan to rebuild the mariupol power station in a different way than it was before the invasion. Mr. Volodymyr, here is a very important point , from your words it is known that there will be two stages of protection, of the Energy Infrastructure itself, that is, active and passive, this is passive about these engineering structures, if of course it is possible to talk about it publicly, as it looks, what are these fortifications, how much are they powerful, are they able to withstand, i dont know the attack from the russian side, they have been somehow tested, not tested, but in this context, and its just not possible to talk about it, unfortunately, and all the questions you asked are absolutely correct and correct, but the answers to them should be a surprise for the russians themselves, if they. Suddenly dare to repeat their Missile Campaign once again, i will only say that there were no readymade solutions in the world to protect against drones, kamikaze and flying missiles in Energy Facilities, therefore we had to find these solutions with the general staff ourselves, and now these solutions are applied at ukrenergo substations, and our facilities will become the first energy objects, probably in the world, where certain types of engineering protection, from, for example, drones will be applied. That is, in fact, ukraine will also be able to offer the world a system of how to protect important Energy Infrastructure in the event of, for example, hostilities . Well, absolutely, i will tell you that the interest of various states, various government agencies, in what we do in energyintensive, and only to our engineering defense solutions, and also to how we basically keep the system under fire, how we restore it, is huge, and all of our foreign partners, they basically agree that when after the victory we will be able to share information a little more, they all really want to learn in ukraine, how to maintain the Energy System. In conditions of fullscale war. I think this information will be extremely useful and will be a huge request. And regarding this active protection option, i. E. As far as we understand, these are air Defense Systems that will protect from the air, important Energy Facilities, how you cooperate with representatives of the air force itself, how sufficient these systems are, well, what can of course be announced publicly. Information about pppo systems is even less possible. About it, about them, than about engineering fortifications, the reasons are also understandable, i will only say that we coordinate very closely with our colleagues from the defense forces, and in particular with those colleagues who are responsible for the pppo system, so, well, and so in fact, we have such an integrated system of protection of Energy Facilities, it includes various elements, both active protection and passive protection, these are engineering fortifications, so it all has to work in a complex way, and in fact, this is how it worked last winter , this winter we are still improving our interaction. I thank you for finding the opportunity and time to turn on. Volodymyr kudrytskyi, the chairman of the board of ukrenergo, was our guest, we talked about whether ukrainians should wait for the power to be turned off, and if so, for which ones conditions, and you can actually watch this conversation if you missed it on our youtube. 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