For our country, grateful for every day to relatives and friends, warm greetings, bows to parents who raised such people, such real ukrainians as them. Glory to ukraine. Espresso. Lets watch the Kyiv Security forum live. The rain will still smile at our brothers. Yes , dew in the sun, dizzy, washing in ones side, washing for ours , the cossack family, for ours, what are we, just glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes. We continue our work on how to help ukraine win and today at todays meeting we will have three very specific panels. Three things that relate to helping ukraine. The first is how to help ukraine win this war. The second is how to rebuild ukraine after the war. Ukraine as a Democratic State and after the war and during the war, these three topics will be covered by outstanding people, i emphasize the first topic, how to win ukraine in the war, two will speak on this topic real figures we invited our friend this is general petraeus this is the former director of the Central Intelligence agency the commander of the Central Command of the armed forces of the United States of america and uh the secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of ukraine one of the top leaders of the ukrainian state this is Oleksiy Danilov general petrous reminded me he told me that he considers it an honor that he is a member of the Security Council of the Kyiv Security forum ambergatti the second panel will be a panel on how ukraine can survive economically now, how to rebuild ukraine and here are just as incredible participants. Of course, an incredible participant is the minister of finance of ukraine, nataliya yaresko. In her background, there will be several other participants , such as the minister of finance of the United States, layer summers and, er, zelikov, this is a former highranking official of the state department of the United States and now its an american professor well, your humble servant yatsenyuk will also be present there and the third panel is a panel about democracy this is a good panel about how ukraine should develop even in wartime and during the war there will also be a minister there, this is the former minister of defense , mr. Zagorodniuk, there will also be a minister, this is practically a minister this is valery chaly, this is our ambassador to the United States of america, and the head of india in kyiv will actually be a key figure on this panel, that is, today we are focused on three things how to win in the war, how to win in the economy, how to win in democracy, that is why i invite everyone to this conversation, and the first panel will be led by the director of the Kyiv Security forum, also almost the minister, mr. Danylo lubkivskyi, mr. Chairman. Thank you very much, nice to see you ladies and gentlemen, i want to first of all thank arseniy yatsenyuk, the head of the Kyiv Security forum and the former Prime Minister of ukraine, the military Prime Minister of ukraine, for his introduction and welcoming speech to all of us, we have a special event, i thank arseniy for the fact that he reflected the meaning of the morning of the meeting and undoubtedly introduced the guests, simplifying my work, we are meeting in a special place, the Kyiv Security forum has never been held under such conditions, but the fact that we are here, in my opinion, is a sign that our people invincible, no fool will defeat us , and on this note, i would like to start our conversation. Began to thank mr. Prime minister for inviting me i am proud to be a member of the Kyiv Security council of Kyiv Security at the forum we talk a lot about ukraines ingenuity about its ability to adapt and this is where we spend this event says it all once again, what other country can attach a parking lot to a place for holding an event of this level. This is another proof that ukrainians are very resourceful. For me, it is a great honor that putin is against me and sanctions against me. E put forward i think that this is a big, very big thing for me, and being here is also a big thing for me. I admire the patriotism of the resistance of the ukrainian people to a fullscale invasion or at a parliamentary session in munich, and there mr. Pinchuk held a detour i met with the parliamentarians and i remember as a country that we supported for more than twenty years , afghanistan, what happened next, and then i was asked if you have any questions for the ukrainian parliamentarians, so i said yes , i have a question, will you fight, did you see and daughters and they assured me absolutely absolutely unequivocally, at that time i had not yet been to the donbas military operations, but they said yes, we will fight, and i was very convinced of this, and what they said was confirmed in practice in such a way that it is really impressive and the whole world is watching your country and you admire how ukrainians have mobilized as a people, it is unsurpassed. Therefore, it is a great privilege for me to be here with you today , for me it is pure for me that the secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of ukraine , Oleksiy Danilov, is participating with us today as part of this event. From the leaders of ukraines resistance in the war against the russian aggressor. I would also like to start with a question to you, mr. Danilov. Probably the entire audience of the Kyiv Security forum and all those who watch our event are interested in your evaluation of of the current state of affairs. Where are we at the front . What is your uhuh concise general opinion about uhuh in our perspective, your word, thank you, colleagues, but somehow, mr. General uhuh, it is not politically correct, a rumor in afghanistan , it is not clear why it is known, what ended up this company for the United States where is the smallest number of states . I want to say that the question you ask is extremely difficult. The fact is that we live in a very difficult world. There is partners, where is someone else and the world is very, very complicated today, i can say that it did not become complicated today , it did not become complicated yesterday, it has been complicated for a long period of time when certain monopolistic processes took place in the world, when did the processes begin to restrain and any monopolization. It always leads to degradation. This is a classic. It does not need to be confirmed. Unfortunately, the period of degradation of the democratic report was gaining momentum, and if there were no shocks, i think demographers would have has ended its existence in this world, uh, why am i talking about hybrid things, because in our country, it is somehow uh, it is customary to constantly Say Something in such a way that no one understands anything, and the question is, when i had a meeting with the commander of the armed forces of great britain, uh he and i remembered when we were training, the seabreeze was the only ship that went where it needed to go, it was just under his command at the time, i said that he had steel eggs, but on arrival, unfortunately, now there is a lot of food , politicians need it, it is in a state of poaching, so and this is a big problem for this this is a problem for the world because this fear of russia, which i did not understand from what kind of context, appeared in such a context, there are signs and there are constant processes that are very difficult to get answers to. Well, for example, on september 7, eh. It was this year, this date in 1940, hitler began bombing london, this bombing was 57 days in a row, day and night, the german germans were playing around london, and i faintly imagine that roosevelt dialed churchill and said, my friend, dont touch hitler because he has a powerful army over there. He has powerful weapons. You have to put up with it somehow, you understand. And thats why its extremely difficult to answer the question youre asking now. We cant say that the war will end tomorrow the day after tomorrow. It depends on uh. There are many factors, the only thing i can say is that our people will fight for our independence only as long as it takes and if someone thinks that we will give up, that we will somehow er make some or other concessions in order to be the person we are today has already killed 500 of our children, she should sit down with us at the table for negotiations, i just have a question. How come you cant even talk to a person who killed 500 children in the 21st century should be behind bars . Lets talk about some fertilizers, talk to them, what are you talking about , dear people, and you will lead to the point that autocratic regimes will seize power all over the world with your say it like this way with your eggs come to power they have a great temptation to become an autocrat and this is a natural thing for ruling already in power thanks to the west for the 23rd year when he did everything that was possible to do, which did not fit into the democratic framework, he was given the opportunity to get richer and richer and now, lets say this, the thing is turning against our free to give an answer to the people when the war ends. I cant be at the front. Its difficult. But nevertheless, we can say that we will achieve our goal. The borders of 1991 are what our constitution says. How could someone there not want to be told by nato that we have to get rid of something . Get rid of yours we havent heard of anyone dont intend to thank you thank you very much thank you very much your answer anticipates somewhat even to some extent overlaps my future questions to you almost the same question your general assessment of what you you see at the front and practice, a practical analysis of achievements and failures uh, as we have. Let me start by saying that the Ukrainian Armed forces impressed many saints, well, on me personally, because i had uh, they brought you see them in donetsk and i uh he understood how they could act as they acted in the 19th year, but when which troops won the battle for kyiv for sums for chernihiv for kharkiv for the Kharkiv Region kherson ee on the dnieper and when ee the only achievement of the Russian Troops for the entire winter offensive which they carried out destruction the city to be collared and captured at the cost of no less than 25,000 soldiers. So what is happening today is extraordinary. By the way, i think that what is extraordinary is absolutely right to do the defense of the United States of america nato europe of course i personally would like a decision to be made sooner for example, the provision of v16 aircraft, solutions for longrange missiles, but to this is a Straight Line now to provide not only artillery systems, Missile Systems and much more , but again, the amount of abs support is incredible, 25 billion session in the south obviously Russian Defense and again i spent 37 years in uniform commanding er during two soldiers in command and i havent seen anything like this since ww2 this is an extremely complex Defense System the russians are not particularly impressive with professionalism or knowledge on the battlefield but they have created an extremely outstanding Defense System can be said to be extremely difficult to overcome, and the question arises, what will happen if you understand the situation on the battlefield, what are you going to do next when there are suitable ones, lets say with different issues and we had to fight against the republican guard. That is, the question for them was how to adapt. I have to say that the ukrainian adapts in an extremely impressive way. Its not just that we all understand now that determination, but its also innovation, this adaptation of tactics on the willful when you understand how complicated are these huge minifields, trenches, antitank roves, hmmm, in the stinging cheese, and all this is russian shelling, how to react to all this, and i think that the ukrainian reaction was really insulting to tea and the maximum approach, i uh, publicly published with mine i will allow it but i have to say that the ukrainians are getting the russians so on whose front a huge huge distance this is an extraordinary front line and they do not allow the snipers to concentrate in one place they are now creating the conditions for continued success after it inflicts blows on russian e in places of storage or a set of air bases even on sea vessels even in the crimea, logistics lines, its all possible, you cant destroy the city, but you can make it so that it is impossible to drive on it , and of course a huge number of artillery systems and which are used and it is very good that using the western artillery system, Ukrainian Forces can strike at russian systems at a greater distance, but all the stretching of the front and yours make the russians capabilities decrease, they also create conditions on the battlefield and in the end when theres going to be an opportunity where they ll be able to strike back with reserve forces but in the meantime whats going on is actually house vs. House landing vs. Landing and but you can see uh its at work there you can see on the map what achievements the institute of war Research Records and which one is one of the most respectable yes er maps of military actions it is already evident so this is a question of zaporizhzhia er the border with donetsk er bakhmut all this i think accumulates and i have such the question is when the Russian Forces will start pouring in and when they will crack and when and how the ukrainians will soon become in order to break this important line of communication between erer different parts separately cut off the crimea to a large extent from the south of ukraine cut off the peninsula ideally, it would be to destroy the city of kerch, and when this is done, then the Russian Forces will be in a situation of destruction, not like the Russian Forces are located on the dnipro under kherson, but this is the name of this, for me , the first months of the operation in iraq are very difficult, the idea then commanded and and i know its always difficult all the time but in the end its not hopeless and in the end we know what were doing we want to accumulate progress and then we achieve a Chain Reaction effect and we hope to see exactly that because were very impressed with the work the Ukrainian Military and we are all grateful to you for the success of the Ukrainian Armed forces even in the absence of air superiority but yes yes but again it would be much faster i do not know if the other side can achieve air superiority because the air defense in ukraine is extremely impressive tatyans cannot apply the americans effectively provided their air force and initially provided the portability of the missile complex. Now antipion Protection Systems with a longer range are provided, and it is obvious that more is needed for such places as odessa and so on, but i think that progress will continue and similarities success advantage or victory i always say progress progress progress progress and in the end progress will become permanent and you will see it on the field because i would like to make one more remark one by one i think it is extremely important not to be peron too attached to the field battle, i know that this is of interest to everyone and everyones site questions when we win the war and so on, i think that we are all not only ukrainians, but all of us should focus not only on winning the war, but in order to win in the future, to win the future as a partner of one of the most investment firms, the question for ukraine is becoming so, and you have to ask yourself what will make ukraine a destination for investments, so the plan is similar to the Marshall Plan and help, how will the eu be inflated by the United States, of course it is important, but real success is when such a campaign how our Investment Companies will appear in ukraine not just using ukrainian talents to become a company in europe. Elected and he must make progress of course it is difficult, it is always difficult but it is necessary to continue to focus on this, but i met with president zelensky recently, my question was how you will work in different areas, i listed them and he said that he has done in the parliament, what has already been achieved, what we are trying to institutionalize and a few days after that e arrested the president of the Supreme Court if i am not mistaken that is for a law student it was a very good sign thank you very much for what you said lets hope for the best the future is now danilov in one of the interviews of the last interviews, the president of ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyi voiced the idea that after the ukrainian troops go to the administrative border with crimea, it will be possible to press the demilitarization of russia in crimea through political means, what does this mean that the russians must leave, must leave our crimea , must return to those people who were directly there until the 14th year , first of all, the Crimean Tatars must get their home, return to their home to of their ancestors, those ukrainians who were there at one time must return home, this is exactly what it means, the question is related to access to those borders, it is very, very difficult, and here it is very strange for me to hear when the nato general says that without victory, there is no superiority in the air it can achieve something. Keep in mind that no nato operation begins without air support in any nato countries, because it is about peoples lives. So, unfortunately , until we do not have at least this parity, it will be extremely difficult for us to work. Again, you know the hybrid cast of this whole process in so, and i can say that the world was in a difficult, difficult state. The fact is that someone did not expect this from us. They were preparing us for the socalled partisan war and did not expect that there would be such a furious resistance of our people , we explain to all of them that you simply do not know us, thats the problem with regard to the fact that the russian federation, well, you always lie she wrote the textbooks that are currently in all the universities of the world, they just have to be thrown into the trash , but i dont do that, in these textbooks it is written that we are some brothers there, that they are some older ones, but it is not only about us, it is about belarus, about moldova, about georgians and many