The ministry of Foreign Affairs of ukraine and the state Border Service of ukraine and the minister of Foreign Affairs informed about this luminitaodobescu told romania that these barrage munitions did not pose any threat to romania. Arose as a result of attacks by russian drones carried out last night on the infrastructure of the maritime port, drone attacks carried out by the Russian Federation did not establish any direct military threat to our National Territory or the territorial types of romania, that is, our officials, including the minister of Foreign Affairs dmytro poleba, say that there is indisputable evidence so that, by barricading the drones and saving ammunition, they got to the other side of the danube and fell into the territory of the country that is part of of the North Atlantic Alliance , and romania says that they did not pose any military threat to our National Territory. Romania is afraid to start the procedure of convening the nato council and discussing the fifth point or what the problem is. Why are they so cautious . Poses a military threat there , well, these reasons, first of all, it is their general strategy to avoid a conflict, to leave the war on the territory of ukraine so that it does not, so that nato is not involved, except for the assistance that provides too much for ukraine, and this is a strategy and the american one is the strategy of the nato countries and actually it is carried out, and the second is directly this specific case, well, the statement that we did not pose a direct threat to the threat can be accepted such a statement, but one cannot deny the fact that, sparingly , ammunition is flying into the territory of romania you dont object to it, so if romania is discussing this, i think that i dont want to, to be honest, do it many times, but it is necessary to convene the Ukraine Nato Council on this matter and consider it there, well, lets say if not all of them those cases when this situation created not only a threat , but we also need to figure out how to react to us together, i will explain , for example, for me, well, it is strange when, say, the romanian ppu system, for some reason, it waits for where it will fly and does not shoot down, preserving the charge even on its own territory, it is very strange, but there is another point here, and if they shoot down over the border and part of it flies to us, yes, that is, i think that we will not blame anyone, but we need to hold Bilateral Consultations about the payments. We have an agreement, in the end we called ourselves strategic partners, that is, things are very in this regard, they supported ukraine, such technical issues need to be resolved by us and romania with all the border countries. And so i think that there are even proven cases of russian provocations and clashes and russian missiles hitting the territory of ukraine, nato and even attacks against the aircraft of nato countries well, not everything worked there, but these were already specific, not imitations of the use of machine guns there, well, on the pushyk airplanes, to be more precise, that is, these cases well, there were more than 10 open media only, open press, so lets ask the question anyway if you really dont want to avoid a collision with all your might, then at least coordinate the commenting of all these stories. Well, im not talking about the fact that if youre so happy now that it didnt fly somewhere, well, tomorrow your family will fly to you and what will you say then you will tell that now there was no threat and then that you, your citizens, will tell that we have everything under control, well, that is, it is not the right position. It seems to me that what is needed now may not be needed publicly. But really, hold this council and find out everything what will we do . Do together as a country of graduate students and nato countries because they cover themselves with such and such statements every time everything is fine, everything is fine well, this way you can bring problems on yourself there sooner or later these uh, sorry, their hands are growing from the wrong place, they can go somewhere uh do it in such a way that later romania will be forced to enter the war. Therefore, it is necessary to strengthen it in this case, as other countries have now initiated even more air Defense Systems in this region, if we are already covering this flank. Technical support and one more small piece of news to mr. Valery, it is about the fact that zelensky is calling on the Verkhovna Rada to adopt a package of bills for the opening of negotiations with the European Union. Early work that we agreed with the European Commission on the law on the restoration of electronic declaration of changes to the law on National Minorities and especially appealed to he is paying attention to the law about peppi, the police, but the xpost, politically significant persons , mr. Valery, who does the president want to convince that these obligations to the European Commissions should be fulfilled, i dont know, well, the majority in the president s office, the committee is headed by the president or people. I know that the European Integration Committee is another faction , but there is full support for this well, i dont know, that is, you know, in principle , i have questions of a different nature here. You see, i know the essence of each of these questions and each of these questions has its own nuances, that is, there was no the need to drag on for a long time, it was necessary to simply hold a conversation with the European Union so that we are in these not new questions for us in principle, how did we make the optimal solution because there is a big threat that what that that sounds super beautiful i will tell you for example peppa yes that is, what in general this is happening in the world. There is not a single case when all officials fall under their control for life. All politicians , i will tell you more. I do not understand why there is Financial Monitoring of such people. The system works in such a way that later banks do not want to open accounts for families, this is about hundreds of thousands of people, and for this, purely because of this, because of the fact that Everyone Wants to somehow favor and not fulfill the rights of people, in another part , this question arose. It was in now we dont appear again, that is, i remember the parcel should have been said as it was introduced in ukraine its generally full of understatement according to the paps from a fool, that is, they started well, as a result, they raked practically the entire people of ukraine under one comb, but there was no result they got it from our minorities. Well, i know the same situation, yes. Hungary is currently gathering there with other countries, trying to put pressure on the eu so that , in general, the negotiating parties with ukraine are open to National Minorities, so we need to be very careful, so dont do it in a hurry and call here, its not necessary this is purely a question of the current work of the government and the parliament. Thank you mr. Valery. It was valery chaly , a diplomat, the former ambassador of ukraine to the United States of america. Friends, it was a program of serhiy rudenko. I wish you all good health. Take care. 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Petersburg to kyiv in 191718 volodymyr tsibulko will discuss this topic with us today political expert, peoples deputy of ukraine of the fourth convocation, poet, writer, volodymyr, i congratulate you, i also congratulate dmytro kapranov, writer, publicist, public figure, youtuber, dmytro, i congratulate you, i will start with well, so briefly, i will briefly quote pavel skoropadskyi, who described the four stages of russians who pass through in ukraine after breaking out of at that time, revolutionary petersburg, which was engulfed in civil war, repressions and many other indirect things, to calmer kyiv, which the bolsheviks had not yet reached at that time. Let me remind you that they reached it for him they did not get there until the 18th year. And here he writes that the russians are russian liberals who came to kyiv. They immediately felt a state of euphoria, happiness, that they saved their lives. That they arrived at a safe place. They liked everything in kyiv, the streets of kyiv, the restaurants of kyiv, and the bell ringers actually. Everything about them was wonderful, singing language , nightingale borscht, dumplings , vodka, and all this was very good for them. Er , dissatisfaction with the fact that they do not have the usual ones for them life benefits eh and here it begins cautiously and over time they become more and more frank and even sharper criticism of the country as a refugee, which you were praising yesterday Pavlo Skoropadskyi says that bad cobblestone drivers started here immediately , but the phase is not limited to this; the fourth phase is political and a good russian expresses his desire to create a good russia in ukraine for himself and under himself and there is nothing wrong with it as long as he tries to do it at home in russia because he escaped from there but he is he is trying to do where he is now and the imperial way he is used to is reborn in him, he denies the separateness and identity of neighboring states and peoples and turns into an ordinary russian from a good seed, this is such an introduction from a person who saw russians in kyiv in the 17th year of pavel skoropadskyi hetman, and now we will talk about how good russians behave now, who they work for and whether it is really worth contacting them in any way, mr. Volodymyr, lets start with you in general the concept of a good russian does it exist or not . Well, the Ukrainian Military says that a good russian is the one that exists in the land. Moreover, even the russian oligarchy, with the election of zelensky, has already begun to build such a russian ukraine in us, remember the story of how they, so to speak , were indoctrinated through this new concept of commemorating the womens ravine, how is it that a whole bunch of oligarchs immediately came out and such a director zhenovsky, and they began here to reformat babin yar as a bridgehead for the occupation of ukraine and the construction of a little bit of another ukraine of russian ukraine. It was a bad weather for them. This itch arises when, especially when the russian oligarchs saw that they had completely swallowed russia. They had a friendly desire not to quarrel with the chekists and earn a lot of money on the territory of russia, but at the same time in ukraine to build such a mother russia, to put it mildly and unfortunately, unfortunately, they still did not give up these games, unfortunately the authorities resort to such resuscitation procedures in order to remind ukrainians of the soviet past, with a somewhat more varnished side, embellished with a nostalgic side, and i believe that these are procedures for resuscitation of such soviet nostalgia, which can allow them to build a second russia here. And now the question is actually this well, the same question to mr. Dmytro. Do you think there are any good russians at all and is this an attempt . Thats right, mr. Dmytro disappeared now, but is there an attempt by some ukrainians to call them that well, not only ukrainians and the europeans came up with such a name in order to somehow ease the perception of this aggressive and cruel russia, please. Yes, we dont have sound. As far as i understand now, we will now adjust the sound to the sound sound and hear dmitri, who will tell us about the growth , you know i am now asking mr. Dmytro why i took up this topic today, i was very, very outraged by the statement, we will show it later, now we will not show it in russian, the journalist yuriy latynina, who began to teach the life of the ukrainian journalist mykhailikach i they will indicate what he should be doing, where should he be better , whether at the journalistic level, investigating uh, and fighting corruption, or lets say be on the front lines , lets say there, lets say how mr. Dmytro lives, mr. Dmytro, please. I appeared again, if you can hear me. I can continue my opinion that good and russian are not combined. Maximoron is baked ice it is cold with summer , it is warm winter, that is, the reputation of the socalled russians abroad is absolutely obvious, and no one can tell you about goodness. I dont know english there, but french is good, because the frenchman is different, he has his own reputation, but for russia, except for hell, except for the empire of evil , there really is no reputation. We perfectly remember the attitude towards ourselves when suddenly you say that you are ukrainian, it was brilliant, our friend is now good at that time when we met and we say, well, we are not russian, and he puts his hand on your shoulder and says that you are poor this is the understanding of what it is to be a nonrussian, it means a superior attitude towards everyone, a sense of ones own specialness , ones divinely chosen, this is actually what is the main core of this national socalled idea of the russian socalled people and it is connected with the fact that this is a resource civilization, this is a civilization that does not sow, does not live all their life due to the fact that god gave them something , they grew up, they grew up in the black earth, they grew up in the river and in the delta. Lived like that you know, as forest nomads, they lived on what they called fishing, that is, we gather mushrooms, gather berries, cut down the forest , beat the animals, add fur, and never sowed those mushrooms, did not breed those fish, those squirrels, and thats why they believe that everything is given to them by god and then he is god who gave the forests that they sold and now he is god who gave light hydrocarbons that they trade and that is why every russian understands that he is special he is not like everyone else he is higher god loves him god gave him this land gave him resources you look at what they are proud of the size of the earth with its natural wealth, not because of what they did not do, but because of what god gave, which means they are chosen by god , which means they have the right to look at all of us from top to bottom, which means to be no russian is already to be flawed, which means that this is complex, we can always distinguish them, no matter how he hides, no matter how he disguises himself, sooner or later, he will put his hand on your shoulder, i will tell you what you know. Hello, you are tough, so look what he gives now, did you already say the postport never exactly laid hands on a shoulder to vitalik, the same russian, lord, what are you doing, well, vitaliy eduardash certainly kicked him off his feet, and well done, and we applaud him, but this message is that you dont need to be embarrassed by all the russians, hes not a jerk, it s part of their national world. By the way, i hear the answers of vitaliy portnikova shendrovych very by the way, by the way, very subtle, artistic, beautifully answered vitaliy well, plus, he is of course a jew, a ukrainian, well, an ethnic jew, i am from ukraine under my passport, for some reason he is russian well, now we, so to speak , came to this topic objectively and talked about the danger of good russians in ukraine, in the ukrainian language, in ukrainian cities, first of all, because they can be physically not in ukraine, but in their brains they are present and good russian and not so good russian and different russians. Russians from russia, in any case, this war , although with a lot of blood, it ends with the defeat of russia, an ideological, first of all , a historical defeat of russia, and a lot of these good russians will then appear again in our borders, we understand this very well. Where . They will find out who needs them there uh and right then and there that they will then become friends again and put their hands on each others shoulders, thats also understandable. Therefore, we will now see how, from the first video, how a ukrainian journalist investigates from the ukrainian pravda publication Mykhailo Tkach in london, i met uh, too, uh, russian uh, mykhailo film on an oligarch who had banks in ukraine, liz just went to babyn yar in the project what mr. Volodymyr was talking about and asked him a few questions about friedmans reaction and in general this whole situation lets see it from the video from the investigation which the ukrainian truth was made public by Mykhailo Tkachem. Lets see russias full side in ukraine. I told you young people. I cant. Give me three. Its normal, absolutely everything is russia, so dont take a side directly, its correct to comment like this, i dont know about you , i dont know, those are the police, a separate id, im already telling the truth, im answering a ukrainian passport, i dont want it, i dont want it, if you want it he will talk about the topic, we can shine, and he will talk about naked starters, but this is not a street, you will not give any comments. Well, you say that the lawyers, what kind of position is guilty , that they are yours, i told you. Well, this is how melandena street Mykhailo Tkach walked through london with his client who , in principle , did not answer any of his questions, maintaining his usual loyal position towards putin, probably knowing the history of the londoners, the arrival of the rather tragic adventures of the russians who fled from putin, we are talking about lytvynenko and the violinists, well, we know very well that london is not a closed territory for the russian agents even during the war, so the freema reacted very carefully, but to this who would you think the liberal russian journalist yulia latynina, we will see now and show her quote in this is her now, how are you . Twitter is called there now. Well, its somehow different. Well, in one word, in the twitter social network, she is the x network. She wrote about the fact that the journalist Mikhail Tkach and pochemu eto molodiy chelovek he is not at the front, not in the ranks of the armed forces pochemu eto finds around london and, so to speak, adheres to a good russian movie mykhailo in lviv , by the way, the birthplace he is paid directly by his employer, he does not work in the budget sector , so it is also necessary to teach him, of course, certain people have the right, but as readers, as viewers of ukrainians, the reader has the right to express his opinion in any journalist, i am a weaver portnikova its the right of ukrainians, but its definitely not the right of a latino, and she starts saying what what what uh, you should be at the front, they re going here to friedmans catch in london , volodymyr, heres this tone and this is instructive rhetoric, thats one thing id like you to comment on well and here is this kind of peeping out of the hole from the hole of such a safe friedman, who is a little bit normal in ukraine, journalists can afford to catch up with him and why ask him questions in london, please , well, first of all, yuria latynina, i will tell you who she is in an accessible position who says uh, thats me i will say that this tone is also built by certain relations with the bank. I understand this because she regularly does not stop praising zelenskyi, and moreover, these praises of zelenskyi are very similar to the praises of the tsar himself, that is, for her, zelenskyi is a temporary tsar. Killed a positive series, and since she praises the tsar, it allows her to say so , uh, well, uh, destroy uh, verbally, a boyar, because it is impossible to consider Mykhailo Tkach, uh, well, lets say, not quite an independent journalist, he after all, he plays to the notes of the bank note, but he plays quite talented, so latynina shenderovych and food food for seven numbers, they look at ukraine as a tool for weakening the fascist regime in russia, which will allow them to return to a huge book market well, to sell their polygraph products, so to speak. This is the main idea for them, they do not see the potential in ukraine for themselves