Go to the website of the roshu thai magnolia service, here you can view all the photos of the missing, who knows maybe by selfexcavation you will recognize and eventually help to find him, look at the photo, this is 12yearold herman virchenko, the boy also lived in the Luhansk Region in the city of svatovo, which was also occupied in may 22 contact with this boy broke off six months ago on february 27, and during all this time there was no news about the child, thats why i hope for your help. Attention to the photo herman looks 1213 years old, he has blond hair and is of medium build. If suddenly someone knows where the child may be, dont delay but call us on the hotline at the short number 116,000 from any ukrainian mobile operator, the calls are free, i also want to remind you that the search for fifteenyearold ilya polishchuk from mariupol is still ongoing, imagine the fate of this nothing has been known about the boy since the beginning of the fullscale war, the connection with the green party was cut off on february 24, and no one knows where he may be now, so i am appealing to everyone who sees me now, and especially to the residents of mariupol, who may be watching this program on social networks, take a close look at photo of the boy, he looks 1415 years old, he has light blond hair and dark eyes , if anyone has seen the boy because he knows where he might be, dont delay now and call us on the magnolia child tracing hotline at the short number 116,000 calls free of charge from any ukrainian mobile operator. If you dont have the opportunity to call, write to the chatbot of the child Search Service in telegram , any information is important, and i would like to ask for a moment of your attention. This is fifteenyearold mark smorodin, who also lived in mariupol and was also one of them on february 24 last year, for one and a half years, and there was no news about the child, the guy is leaving , no one knows now, thats why your help is important , look carefully at the photo and remember the face, the currant brand, he is thin he looks about 15 years old, he has light blond hair and dark eyes. If you know any information about the child , call us immediately at the short number 116 000. I remind you that calls from any mobile operator are free. If suddenly there is no mobile connection, write to the chat child search bots in telegram believe me, even a small clue can be very important, we have created a resource thanks to which you can report any crime against a child in any city at any time, just go to the site and report and we will launch all possible mechanisms for punishing the criminal of the five countries ua congratulations friends we once talked about the movie 20 days in mariupol on our broadcast finally you can watch it i think some of you have already watched the most frequent feedback about this movie is that it is very difficult to watch but you want to watch it to the end and even after rewatching, i heard that and now we will talk with the creators of this tape with Mstislav Chernov and yevhen olenetka and first of all, congratulations. Lets start with oscar, because we always have some oscar passions we always want to win an oscar , then we cant make a bulk. Or someone else, ah, you said in revenge that maybe you want to submit like this, that is, i understand correctly that you have such plans to submit to the category of the best documentary. Yes, i am the category of the best documentary. We are just getting into i will give this category a shot and we will try to do it. What happens next is not up to us, but this year there was not much, and it surprised us. There are not many large documentaries about ukraine, and i think that it is absolutely necessary to represent both ukraine and the topic of ukraine now at the oscars, it will not be a submission from ukraine , because it is from the states. To promote the tapes correctly, i understand, and for oscar, it is not only the quality of the film that is important, but also how big the advertising was, this is how much this is a decisive fact , uh, oscars company is like that, its a great resource, its uh, there are always a lot of trips, a lot of acquaintances, and a lot of attention must be paid precisely presented of the film on the international stage, i cant say whether its us or us, or not ukrainian cinema has already announced itself in the world , ukrainian wine, cinema, already has good , always has good chances at the oscars, it gets noticed, thats why im just me i think that we just need to continue, this is our film, it falls into e only in the category of documentary films because it is made in english for a foreign audience, pbs froline is an american documentary studio and osushitel press is an american company, so we are leaving yes, but i hope that in the category of the best international film, uh, ukrainian cinema will also be there, well see, usually there are scandals around this, but i want to ask both of you, you say that there is little uh, ukrainian in particular, documentaries, do you think so uh, how do you really think that now it is necessary to shoot first of all documentaries, not games. And what to do with games because there are a lot of opinions about the film butch, which is already in the postproduction stage and i am now such a small scandal around the series yurik he it is called about mariupol, and residents of mariupol who survived the occupation say that the authors portrayed it wrongly there and that they showed their life under the occupation in a much more rosy way, so do you really think that now is not the time for a feature film about a fullscale repetition, or is it still possible do watch feature film and documentary film are different mediums and different topics require different mediums something can be told some stories can only be told through documentary some topics can be told only literature has its own topics eh for art cinema, and i think that it is important, it is still important to do it, it is important, it is important to do it ethically correctly, talking to the audience, and so on, and so on, but it must be done precisely because, uh, mariupol , and in general, the invasion of russia into ukraine requires a constant informational presence the point of view of the ukrainian point of view if it is not there, either in the artistic field or somewhere or documentary, a vacuum will be created , and the vacuum does not exist in the information space, it will be filled, if it is not filled by ukrainian cinema, it will be filled by russian nobody wants this propaganda, do you think the same way, do you agree . Well, i think that you said scandals. Yes, i think that, like ukrainians , we should always unite and work to make a highquality product and present it to the world. Mstislavs film is a good example of how to unite around an idea, make ideas , go regardless of anything, and dont get annoyed, dont make any s so what do you do . And this is the business that we chose. Yes , from the beginning, we will say from the old whether it was there or years ago, we are still continuing it, we are still continuing to do it at one point. And when you go, you can break this wall and break through it and show that it is all possible and that ukrainians can make movies and can present them. And you feel that you have filled some informational space with your film the vacuum that was before the fullscale invasion because you really have a movie that i m watching a lot of reviews if you look at platforms like imdba Everything Else well i think youve seen its very positive reviews high ratings at the same time the movie is hard to watch its all somehow it is combined, due to what it causes, there is such an emotion that it is difficult for people, but it is also interesting at the same time, because in fact there is not enough information. Well, it is not that information reaches people everywhere, but fullfledged information, information with the context of history, it is not enough, we see everything quickly , it is brought, and especially the International Audience who live with their own lives, they are the problems of their countries, and that is why such a great story was told that they grabbed you for at least 90 minutes and do not let them go. They are needed now, so that right now, this is the right time for such stories is just an eraser, the whole secret is in this. Well, the history of mariupol is unique. Mariupol is a symbol both for ukrainians and for the International Audience. It is a symbol of the true face of the russian invasion of ukraine. And it is a symbol of resistance, a symbol of will and hope, that is, it is the history of mariupol. Actually represents the history of this entire invasion that is still happening and probably because of that and also because there is hope in it despite all the pain we see there is always hope when you filmed this tape uh did you expect it to be a movie because, after all, journalistic work is different from cinematographic work, now i hear a lot from cinematographers such opinions as journalists say now they went to documentary and they say that it is not very good for all of us, but what is the fundamental difference when you are journalists filming and when it is you expect that it will already be a documentary about documentarians, this is exactly what you can say that they are not enough in time, lets say so because there are very painful topics that need to be talked about right now and told directly without artistic additions that especially if we talk about the topics, we talk frankly about the topics of potential war crimes, about murders, what are the topics that are acute in the context of the propaganda of russian fake news and for them it is the style of presentation, such reportage, direct artlessness , it is important so that additional questions do not arise, and maybe it was a production, maybe it was there, uh, not what actually happened, and so on, because uh, depending on the topic we are talking about, which movie i am talking about, and you need to choose a style for this topic i want to ask you about the filming itself, what is it . Well, its not that its a feature, uh, we often also talk about red lines, where to go, where not to go, whats ethical, whats not ethical. It seems to me that sometimes its very individual , we have disputes, tell me what is possible were there situations during filming when you simply put the camera down there and did not shoot, or was there such a thing that you considered yevgeny in this situation at all, tell me, let s start with you. You know well, so that we could not shoot, we wanted to shoot a lot, but when people are under great stress, they are aggressive , and they try, they see a journalist and they pounce on you. Well, its not like there are forests on you because you become as a trigger you are a person with a camera and they start abut not on the camera i will lash out a on you a as a person and just to release my energy and for a while to start filming and it was necessary to talk to people to relax her so that uh what happened to this energy went down negative and then get a camera there and start filming something, because very often it happened in these situations when people dont know what to do , they dont know what will happen in this minute, in a second, and they see their children who cant help anything and there is nothing to feed they dont have to give a glass of water and so on. And thats all. People who just came to shoot something and it was sometimes difficult, really, we were , but we were in the same conditions, but that is , there was no situation when you thought that it was already you need to remove everything then the editors together with you when it is at all possible to talk to the editor uh you decide what can be published what is too uh we say less graphics what is too difficult for the viewer but what is interesting uh media space in general and what international snakes have been publishing for the past year and a half, much has changed, there have been more candid shots of people dying and killed and tortured people, and this was never the case before. I think that this is precisely because of the number of crimes committed by the military, she just came all are possible borders and uh media started to show finally started to show everything and this is the first second when you edit a film you still have 30 hours and its still not enough eh we had 30 hours and you need to create a 90 minute film and at the same time show it everything is as it is and at the same time do not push the viewer away with the amount of blood and suffering because we are dumb, our psyche is dumb when it sees a lot of suffering and therefore do not sanitize it as we say and at the same time show everything as it is this balance it was difficult to find but i believe that we found correctly because the film won the audience prize at the screenings at other festivals, that means that we did our job correctly. I remember your discussion of cinematographers by the way. By the way, when they showed it. It seems that this is the first time in ukraine that your film was shown sitting. You talked about it. I am already afraid to lie about something, but i think you talked about when you were preparing it, you talked with your colleagues about staying and they wanted everything to happen. As you said, manipulation, but not in a crude sense. And that it was there without music, that you did not express any of your emotions, that a happy relationship tell me what they wanted at the very beginning, what does this mean without documentary, without manipulation, and maybe you somehow made them reconsider their views a little bit, no one was against the music, but again, since uh, russia tried many times to declare that these shootings are fake because one of the principle positions was not to add anything that was not there to documentaries, modern documentaries are allowed to use tools when the director works with foley, and that is what we call it, that is, it can amplify some sounds with the help of sounds that were not in the film, add an explosion, the sound of explosions and so on. And all this is not in our film precisely because it was necessary to indicate. How was it . E with the picture and this and this is actually very difficult because when you are putting together a documentary film when you are making a story that well, it needs to be told and also interesting so it needs to be held together a a ere know that you cannot not present no elements or add anything this is such this such a challenge is not easy, but it seems to me that we did or your colleagues were against from the very beginning that you are telling the story from yourself and it is sufficiently personalized. That is, you are not the one who is not removed. No, i was against us. I did everything to prevent this from happening. And we recorded many people, we found many people with yevhen, traveled with vasilisa, found people who survived in mariupol, yevhen photographed them , i photographed them, that is, we found people who are in the film who survived and interviewed them, and at first i thought that this is how the film will look, but then we realized that we want the viewer to leave these 20 days, to stay there during those 20 days with us closed in such a feeling of claustrophobia, we wanted to transport the viewer to this feeling, so we decided not to leave do not use use these interviews and then this perspective of the story appeared , the perspective of the journalist who tells, but still it is just a perspective that helps to connect the story, this is not the story of journalists yevhen appears in the frame sometimes i am there sometimes im in the frame, but this story isnt about us, and weve already filmed it all like this. Well, we just work so that no one gets into the frame, of course, so as not to bump into each other , because sometimes its disturbing the forest. Im in the frame. What about you . Then you look right at the photo yes, you go to the forest and then you ran me over on video , thats it for me well, and we learned so that we are there we try not to disturb each other yes, and almost us, the effect of presence is like photographs and not being reflected in a mirror so sometimes we stand there next to each other so as not to disturb to the other and we say there our movements forward, i ran forward there, or is there a run back there, and thats why we are almost nowhere, even if he wanted to, it still seems like it was a very important element, so i was communicating with people in the audience what really because it is considered so among documentarians that, well, at least among ours, it is very uh. Phew, i wont do behindthescenes and phew, i wont synchronise, write people there, what is that at all . Its very not cool. But in your case, it turned out to be very cool, an effective factor here same one more thing, and if it is true, there is a tendency in documentaries, not only in ukrainian but also internationally, not to be present in the film if you are not part of the story you are telling, otherwise it is called an extract of jonatalism, when you greet someone when you arrive, you film the story of people yevgeny is from berdyansk near mariupol. I am from kharkiv. We worked very well in mariupol. We have so many friends there. We are part of this big family. This is also our history. That is why we could be part of history if it was somewhere else country, it wouldnt be like that, but since we are also a part of this society , our history is the history of this society , our er, our er, efforts to write the history of our country, this is also part of the history of this country, listen to your fm halychyna, im back, i was sad, but not combispasm, leave combispasm, the power that tames your pain 10 drones for the tenth separate mountain assault brigade edelweiss drones with the function of night vision drank they are vital for conducting reconnaissance 5 of them were bought by the efforts of viewers of the tv channel espresso wanted to thank all the viewers of espresso and everyone who participated in this meeting. 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How is it . Well, i dont even know you. Well, its technically the right thing to do in order to film it and to make sure that everything is as ethical as possible so as not to violate the boundaries of this situation. Well, i think that this is provided, you know, youll learn. So that its some kind of mechanics, but the feeling um, when you can do it sometimes yes, so that you dont have additional aggression that is already there and that pain and what people feel and that strong pain aa that we see there in the photo and video is really not easy and she doesnt always succeed like they do we think to ourselves that its luck and so on, but maybe such a situation is possible serhii uh, really , because he also allowed us to do it, because it s like we cant just enter such a space without permission, well, its impossible, its also two people evgeny takes photos i take