Of oleksandr, does biden now have a chance to avoid a Court Verdict before the elections, well , you know, it is very possible dont forget, we are talking about four processes here, not just one, they are at Different Levels of seriousness, those related to his behavior in your tony and in georges state are the most serious and they have just started talking about it there. So what do you understand when it all starts, when, when it ends . No one knows. I read recently that in such Court Processes , on average, they last for about 18 to 18 months to about 15 to 18 months, because there is always one side of ours. Requires another one too well, they are stretching for quite a long time , well, imagine what will happen with one or all of those processes that have just begun, it is very possible that there will be verdicts either for or against trump right at the beginning, and maybe even in the middle of 2025 this means that he will have the opportunity to make such a persecuted dissident, he somehow sometimes well, they constantly play. He constantly emphasizes that this is not a case against him, but against america and against the people who support him, this is, first of all, the fact itself , as well as the processes it can even help him a lot until now, you know. Every time you start some new processes , his ratings are suitable and going up. If it is at all possible that this will continue in the future. And there is also a possibility. Imagine this, this is a nightmare scenario, lets assume trump will become the president , most people believe that this will not happen, but the hrok thought the same thing, and in that he can become the president , and in a few weeks after the inauguration, at the beginning of the 25th year, they may come to court, there may be court decisions, and in which he will be guilty and what then what then even to make the president a criminal uh, and this of course also has a bad effect on the ukrainian issue, because during the campaign that has already started and which continues until november next year , ukraine will become an important topic, biden supports the democrats support, at least for this political reason, trump under the republicans against or at least to a certain extent labor and that they will do it in order to represent ukraine in some bad light, the democrats will defend themselves on the one hand, it will be good for ukraine because it will finally be on the front lines of the lakes on the other side as you can imagine truths and critics will emphasize one and only one thing is not so counteroffensive did it succeed or fail it is too difficult for the average american they will rather to play on the topic that ukraine is one of the most corrupt states in the world and that it was like that, is like that, and will be like that, then why should we defend the corruption of ukrainian oligarchs , politicians, etc. , and here is a very important moment for ukraine. First of all, it must prove that it is fighting corruption and then the second is to settle your pr, to convince people that the situation is really changing, maybe not so quickly , maybe not so radically, maybe not as much as it is desirable, but it is changing that ukraine is moving in a dash, an interesting phenomenon. By the way, in ukraine, if a politician is against the more crimes are discovered, his rating falls, and in the states it turns out in the case of trump, his rating only increases. You understand it simply , how politicized the American Society is, people who support trump are approximately 1520 of the population, maybe even a little more, they absolutely do not trust any institutions the existing establishment , either among the snakes or in washington or in the government, there was no debt, they absolutely do not care for them, and well, it is hard to imagine how they do not trust, who at the same time were interpreting any step that would be taken by this and the staff against trump condemned and criticized wrote, but they said something, it is always antiasked as a fan of some kind of hatred, if only because what is wrong with them, what is wrong with those leftwing liberals or what to call them, that it is completely impossible to work with them, that they are washing trump, that they want to persecute him so that they they hate people who support trump and so on. Well, of course, the same can be said about people on the leftliberal side of the liberal side of the mind. Little danger for america, because if trump wins, his people will come to power, if trump plays, people will watch him , it is possible to repeat the capture of the capitol. Yes , there is absolutely such a risk. The political scientist of the professor at the address of the university of the United States was with us as a means of communication, now we will have a break, after which he will join the air in italy , portnikova will comment on the most important events of the week, when he is bothered by an allergic runny noses, they want to go to the humor resort for daily prevention and complex treatment of allergic rhinitis, there are 20 discounts on humor spray in pharmacies. Traveller, bam and savings. And what do you think about lacalut fix . 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Studio event with Anton Borkovsky naispresso museum territory of Terror Jewish ghetto of lviv was transformed by the soviet occupiers into a prison with which the path went to the shaft a better example of symbiosis of two totalitarian regimes could not be found nazis to destroy the Jewish Population of the city from this place there was only one way to the death camps the bolsheviks used this experience to send their prisoners, their enemies of the people, to the death camps in golovy, and today modern ukraine is attacking the regime that became the heir to both of these totalitarian dictatorships of both of these misogynistic practices the road to auschwitz the road to the goal leads to the deer every day every hour every minute we receive a large amount of information what is really happening at the front what are the losses of personnel and equipment on the field of soldiers how does the International Community evaluate our successes and what is moscow lying from the news stream that are coming from nowhere , we single out the most important from closely monitoring whether there will be weapons for ukraine and what and what the russian occupiers are whispering about behind the backs of the news commanders. The results of the week are a review of only important events, events with the weight of credibility this is analytics, fact checking, professional comments, much more today about what is important in simple language, available to all viewers. Welcome to the studio, iryna koval. And this is the results of the week on the espresso tv channel, the news , the results of the week, every saturday at 9 00 p. M. Political club, i m angelika sezonenko and Vitaly Portnikov is joining us via video link, i m glad to see you, mr. Vitaly, im sad here without you , everyone, you see it, you always allow us to make Real Television and its wonderful so lets discuss, it was an interesting week full of not only events, but more various kinds of statements, we start with a scandalous statement from the chief of staff of the secretary general of the alliance, stian jensen , that ukraine can allegedly cede territory to russia in exchange for membership in nato , and vitaly remembers i think that one of these options was expressed as a certain concern that we might be inclined to do this. However , the newspaper allegedly writes that even other diplomats from the alliance were shocked. Why did he even allow himself to make such a statement . What do you think . Do you think it was, well, first of all, at the beginning of our conversation, i want to express my sincere condolences to all our viewers in chernihiv, who are experiencing such a tragic day today , and this tragic day once again reminds us that ukraine must become a member of the north Atlantic Union, that the safety of ukrainian citizens depends primarily on will ukraine receive a reliable umbrella from other countries of the civilized world, otherwise we must be aware that missile attacks on ukrainian territory will continue even if the armed forces of ukraine manage to enter state borders of our country and restore the territorial integrity of ukraine. It seems to me that everyone perfectly understands that the territorial integrity of security will lead to the decline and tragedy of the ukrainian state, to the lack of investment in blocked ports and missing air space, and no one wants this because ukraine, after military actions in the end the end will come to an end, no matter what happens. It must be a country capable of development until the restoration of this entire ruin into which our country was turned by the russian occupier, and here the question arises and how what there may be a formula, and it seems to me that the formula for joining ukraine to nato must firstly correspond to the National Interests of ukraine and secondly to correspond to International Law. An integral part of the territory of ukraine, no one except the Russian Federation itself and some countries that try to sing along to Vladimir Putin are considered angelica that this territory is the territory of russia therefore, the question arises, what does it mean to give up if ukraine gives up its own territories from the point of view of International Law . Thus, ukraine becomes an ally of the Russian Federation to the allies of the aggressor, she says yes , International Law can be changed , the territorial integrity of the country can be changed, and not when we are talking about some kind of separatism about there is some desire to create an independent state, we see such a situation. They occur in International Law , and then when one state simply occupies the territory of another and demands from another state for this state to recognize this, putin very often refers to donbas when he talks about crimea, he refers to the experience of kosovo. You see , the west has already decided that kosovo can be an independent state. Why ca nt i . The un, which recorded that the republic of serbia carried out a genocide on the territory of kosovo, is a completely different story albanians live in kosovo and albanians live in albania, and of course it would be completely natural to unite the two albanian states into one. But the International Community said no. You dont even want to live with the serbs, but albania cannot annex the territory of serbia, and we will not help albania here, even if it expressed such a desire, and nobody in albania ever said that it should be done, they said that the kosovars have the right to property, sovereignty to protect its rights, but albania has never expressed a desire to annex this territory simply because there, approximately 95 percent of the population there are albanians, and russia annexes territory with a predominantly ukrainian population, it is worth reminding that kherson, zaporizhzhia, luhansk, and donetsk regions of ukraine are regions with a predominantly ukrainian population in the autonomous republic of crimea. Russians were indeed the ethnic majority, but the autonomy of this territory was related to the rights of the crimean tatar people. It was restored by the decision of the presidium of the Verkhovna Rada of the soviet union, crimean tatar autonomy and here is a miracle. The kyiv federation made a decision on the annexation of the region. No one asked anything special besides that immediately after the annexation of this territory, which is still called the republic in russia, terrible repressions against Indigenous Peoples began, so the question arises, what did the head of the secretary of the ato have in mind then, he already knows exactly what International Law is. I think that we have encountered a rather strange situation when a person is not yet a public politician , he expresses some opinions, as he is used to discussing them with his colleagues at work , without even realizing that it can have such a resonance. It has been a long time, but not many people know about this city in the south of norway. The small city is very pleasant, very cozy, but not like it is in the center of international attention. There they hold a conference on security on various issues, as they do in the summer, a huge number of european cities, and of course norwegians can go to this conference. To invite norwegians who hold High International positions there has already been jenstont well, because norwegians in the summer , as well as those who hold international positions, they come home, they relax there , the beautiful climate of norway in the summer is wonderful, you you know, its just one of the best places in europe. And if its going to be global warming, angelika , after the war, you and i will go to southern norway, because there wont be anywhere else to go to rest normally , its objectively cold, bad weather there is not bad there its good there, somewhere around 2324, 25 in the summer. Well, its just that if you go out more, the norwegian catalog is generally pleasant in the summer, if you remember what winter is like in norway. And heres a person who relaxed to plant at this conference, shares some thoughts. Well, we think that this is some kind of signal. And this rather, it is not a signal, it is a sign of relaxation and forgets that we all live in a glass house, here we are now talking to you and thinking that if we Say Something in ukrainian, no one will even know about a country, and then our colleagues from the site will decipher it they will make news, and someone with google translator will translate this news from ukrainian to swahili, conditionally speaking, and there will be a scandal in some country that we did not even think about, that they will Pay Attention to our words there, and we do not even work with you in nato imagine that we know vitaly and this is a diplomat of course this is a diplomat i think that this is not a very correctly expressed opinion, but i would , if i formulated it in such a context, i would say that, so ukraine will join nato in any case this is very important if she frees her territory, she joins nato, if she doesnt free her territory , she also joins nato, why . Because we dont want this war to repeat itself, and this is by the way, when the secretary general arrived in arendal in a million hundredths, he basically said that we have to be with ukraine both in grief and in joy. I think this is a very important moment because i always say listen, be with the winner, it doesnt take a great mind, Everyone Wants to be with the winner, and you try to be close to the one who fails this is a true friend. And when , lets say, earlier, the secretary general of nato said that joining nato as a condition for ukraine should be its victory , i didnt like it. I am for the victory of ukraine. I believe that ukraine should win in this exhausting struggle with the Russian Federation how long it took to achieve this victory but i believe that joining nato is not connected with victory but with security and that the north Atlantic Union should make a decision on the euroatlantic integration of ukraine in case of any development of events in the russianukrainian war, war is a complicated history in the war, there may be negotiations in the war, there may be, there may be parasky, but there must be a constant not directly related to the war, it is the euroatlantic integration of ukraine , without this euroatlantic integration , the citizens of ukraine should not hope for security in the 20s, three years of our millennium, this must be clearly understood, this must be understood, and i did not see a tragedy in these words and in the fact that, sir, i later justified myself and in the fact that you and the secretary general of nato spoke, i saw the main trend that in brussels are beginning to realize that there is no need to connect the euroatlantic integration of ukraine and ukraines victory in the war , these should be parallel processes, but integration and european mr. Vitalyu supposedly somehow look faster because it does not include security in the component and you said about safety is the most important part of your marriage. You know, you compared aa vow, and above, and in joy, so an oath, and above, and in joy, only when an official marriage. And with us, with nato, unfortunately, it is not even civil yet , but i hope that we can we can count on the fact that in washington we will at least receive an invitation to the alliance, if we receive an invitation to the alliance, this is the road to some security guarantees , Real Security guarantees from the United States, from other nato countries that have i believe that arsenes Nuclear Weapons by the way, joining nato is much more shortterm, and i would say that it is a priority thing than the negotiations of the European Union to the European Union, as a rule , 1015 years pass from the beginning of the negotiations to the end of the negotiations. I hope that ukraine will be able to overcome this distance at a faster pace, but it will still take between 6 and 8 years. And we havent even started negotiations. We havent even fulfilled these conditions that accompanied our candidate status, and i want to remind you that if we dont fulfill these conditions, this candidate status can be revoked, this is a conditional candidate status, because in fact, if it were not for the war with us , it would be like georgia, we would have been given conditions and before the results were given according to these conditions, we would not have received candidate status, they went to meet us precisely because the ukrainians are currently going through one of the most dramatic and difficult moments in the history of their country , but this does not mean that negotiations will begin until the conditions of the European Union are fully fulfilled , so god grant that they will begin in the near future years ago, from the moment of the tatka negotiations , it will take another 68 years. I think it will take another 68 years. Such conditions for the fulfillment of which i mean political conditions, historical memory is education, that , etc. , the years of political turmoil will pass, or for ukraine itself, we are still waiting for such moments that we do not need to talk about now, even during the war think so lets assume that we will become members of the European Union in 2000, 2. 35 years or earlier, this is a great prospect , but we will have been in nato for 10 years by that time. This year it is possible that negotiations will begin. Does this indicate that if they begin . Lets say so, mr. Vitaliy, this indicates that we have fulfilled some of the requirements. Interdependence on the fulfillment of the conditions from to the beginning of the victories, we can simply fulfill this condition by the end of the year, maybe he hopes for this from the direct some european integration, i would only be in favor of hearing it. Ok, lets discuss mr. Vitaliy another statement from the prc. Yes, they said that no give ukraine weapons and then the war will end sooner. Well, this is not the first time, of course, but to vitaliy , they do not change their position and lets say. We are sitting at the negotiating table. It seems to me that the peoples republic of china has voiced a similar position almost from the first days after the start of the war, and from the first days after the start of the war in beijing they blame the fact that the war continues, not russia, but the west, and from the first days after the start of the war in china of the peoples republic emphasize that it is necessary to Pay Attention to the russian concern about the security of this country, that is, they are trying to justify the actions of the Russian Federation against our country by the fact that the Russian Federation i am concerned about our euroatlantic integration and i do not see anything special here because the chinese have always not hidden their strategic relations with the Russian Federation because they are interested in the Russian Federation embarrassing the west with its victory over ukraine and the destruction of our state. Of course, the Russian Federation of china has different interests from many problems, but they are united by one understanding that dictatorships must defeat democracies and establish their agenda in this world, the destruction of ukraine , the recognition of ukrainians from their lands, this a necessary condition for this victory of the dictatorship because if ukraine is destroyed and if its territory is annexed to russia, china can with a light heart begin to solve the taiwan issue and i really hope that this will not happen because we have to understand one more important thing people who engaged in those who sincerely wish in moscow , lets say, the arrival of the Russian Federation on the russian border of the soviet union in 1991, and in beijing, the solution of the taiwan issue, these people are not young anymore, and Vladimir Putin and siedenpin have already turned 70 years old, and they understand that they need to solve the problem of destroying their enemies in the near future, because every new year actually proves to them that they will no longer be able to plan their plans for a Long Distance simply by itself, i would say nature puts an end to their intentions, and therefore of course Everyone Needs the russian the ukrainian war ended as soon as possible, because if it drags on and drags on and drags on and drags on , his alleged taiwanese energy is delayed, he is forced to postpone his plans there, his third term ends the tenure of the head of the peoples republic of china must be proven again that he must remain in power, a difficult situation, and one more important point that needs to be understood china it follows from this that no politicians, observers, what about negotiations and the only problem why these negotiations are not taking place is not the desire of ukraine however, i tell you i want to remind you that just yesterday or today, it seems to me, the head of the Russian Foreign ministry, serhiy lavrovchogo, said that russia is not interested in any negotiations with ukraine, the russians constantly repeat this. Sometimes they mislead and they say that it is ukraine that does not want negotiations, not every time they are asked a specific question. And what about the defeated me . They say that they are not relevant now, they are not needed now. In principle, i do not believe in the very possibility of russianukrainian victories. Many say that this war like any other, it will end at the negotiating table, i insist on the opposite, no, the russian ukrainian war, even if it ends , may not end at any negotiating table , it may just be an informal truce or a truce that will be formalized by some agreements with mediators, but ukraine and russia will not appear at the table, the only possibility for the president of ukraine to appear at the same table with the president of the Russian Federation is to make a decision on the complete capitulation of ukraine to russia and to find opportunities to ensure the further accession of ukrainian lands to russia, what Viktor Yanukovych should have done, another Viktor Medvedchuk but in february of last year, they already tried to make them puppet leaders in the administration that Vladimir Putin wanted they will do everything in kyiv, but since there is no ukrainian president who is ready to surrender to this wild gang , there will be no negotiations, because the russian president himself believes that the year 2 3 4 5 and he will achieve his goal will not achieve it already because 75 years is much more difficult to achieve something , angelika, than 70, and this one is not only about history, mr. Vitaly, the head of the ministry of defense of china, came to russia to belarus, tried to somehow look at the moral and psychological