The external accounting of our cities must change so that people who fought for our country lost an arm, a leg, several limbs, or are semiparalyzed to make them feel comfortable because they fucking deserve it. This is also not done even though, okay, maybe there is no money in the budget. In i have not even heard from most of them that there is work to be done for the postwar period so that there is communication like, okay, people, now we spend all our money on the army, no cobblestones , nothing like that, but we promise that as soon as the war is over, we will make our cities inclusive and people in castles with prostheses will feel comfortable here with this kind of communication. Unfortunately, i havent heard from yurii either. For the past few weeks , the subject of a possible change of the minister of defense of ukraine has been circulating on social media and in the expert community. Have been going on for a long time but now information has already appeared that it seems that a different person will be appointed ambassador to Great Britain and this issue has been resolved, as written by the peoples deputy of ukraine from the voice of yaroslav yurchyshyn, we know that it is simple who has resigned and the positions among the candidates are called kyryla budanova and Iryna Vereshchuk and darya kalynyuk and maria berlin this spring. Do you think it is time to change the minister of defense and if so , who should be the figure who can replace Oleksii Reznikov and become a real figure because to a belligerent country, it is still a figure, of course it is a figure, lets say that, of course , among those whom you have listed, there are many people who have enough competence, and then they will be able to learn. Lets say, because the minister of defense of a belligerent country is like absolutely correctly, they noted the positions are very serious, but i cant remind him that in addition to the candidates that are there, i filled them with the names of the ones that constantly flicker, and there are several more that, in my opinion, are unacceptable, and the main question is that with each replacement, it will be better will it be worse because well, everything flows from this, yes. If we, uh, change uh, mr. Reznikov to someone who will be much worse than him , then of course there will not even be any questions about improving the work of the ministry, only the question that it was better to be out before, unfortunately er, i think that in addition to these candidates, er, i dont think so, i just know that, in addition to these candidates , there are also several more on the table, as it often happens among deputies, actually, er, the minister of defense is, well , very often during the replacement of the minister, someone fulfills his duties after retirement or even becomes a new minister among the deputies, and our main question now is not so much about the person of the minister, because the role of the individual in history is usually great, but you are about the system itself , and what problems we have with this system, and the worst thing is that now it is now in the same social networks where is it usually they are investigating rumors of such a plan, and they are investigating so much what systemic changes we need , not only about what can be done to reduce corruption in procurement, but also about what reforms we still need in this direction and what nato standards we have not fulfilled, and i am starting to investigate the question of whether it is not better to be a woman minister than a male minister. I think that this, firstly , shows such a somewhat childish approach of our society, and secondly, that it distracts from the main question, what can we do in order for our the ministry of defense has become even more effective. Who would you like to see as the next minister of defense . Now we are not resigning Oleksii Reznikov , but in the event that he leaves his post or is transferred to diplomatic work , name 23 people you would like to see minister, i am absolutely sure that daily yarova will be able to do it. I am absolutely sure that berlinska will also be able to do it. I am sure that she is in her place right now and she needs to stay in the kitchen. There is a candidacy, and there are media and nonmedia ones as well. You said about the problems that exist in the military department, about what needs to be done. Well, looking at it comprehensively, we were witnesses of how apples and eggs were bought. At inflated prices for the army, we see that despite everything despite the fact that there have been changes and changes have taken place first of all in the part that the minister of defense does not necessarily have to be a military man, we have a civilian minister of defense and yet, in short, what changes are missing or how er, one political hero said, what reforms do you lack . It seems to me that now there are not enough systemic changes er in this institution, that is, again , the fight against corruption, in fact, it has almost nothing to do with the fight against corrupt officials, the fight against corruption is about ee change of the procurement system is about reduction the possibility of buying something at inflated prices is about constant comparisons , its about publicity. For example, i insist that maybe not now, maybe after the war, but it is necessary to declare now that all purchases of the ministry of defense must be published in the same way as this does the pentagon. Of course, some articles can be classified there, but the prices there are conditional on, i dont know, for some projectiles or there for apples, there is nothing secret, in fact, and the pentagon regularly publishes a huge world market that is larger than ours, which it shows for what money in how much did he purchase and i never once heard that the enemies took advantage of this, on the contrary, it is used by civil society, which therefore trusts the pentagon itself more in the United States of america. I see no reason not to do so in ukraine, there must always be competition that everything that is a monopolist is always permeated with corruption, and not only in ukraine, but in this world, and we have to look as deeply as possible at the ministry of defense and ask ourselves where can we add competition and can we add it here purchases, and is it possible to make it so that it is possible there, the families and types of forces are buried separately and show the prices, and these prices can be compared and see who overestimated the prices or there simply bought more expensive who bought cheaper perhaps some other options are not enough dark work because including because the system that was built there was also from the soviet union, well, it is very difficult to break it, it is very difficult to break it even during the war, and the question , again, is not about the individual , even holy people can come there from which it is five years with a rather large will likely turn into not very holy people are simply devoured by the system of people, and this is a feature of any system that has been imprisoned for years and years by spraying corruption. Thank you, mr. Yuriy, for the conversation. 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E. About new technologies that we need on the battlefield, and here it is not so much about directions or solutions as about creating real conditions for ideas to quickly turn into practical results. At the same time, by the way, there is an opinion that now in ukraine there is a unique chance to be not only a Training Ground for these new military technologies, our own there or foreign ones from our partners here and drones, the development of rap, Artificial Intelligence , but also to become a country with a new economy precisely on a military basis, because the army and the Defense Industry are the basis of our existence and longterm Development Strategic perspective. So , we will talk about new defense prospects from military startups to alliances between ukrainian and foreign Defense Industrial companies in our program with ukrainian experts who have powerful expertise and experience to assess this new reality. I am serhiy zhorits. I am the director of the Information Consulting company defekt express, which, together with kanalamiss, strives to highlight the most relevant trends in the field of security and defense, and now we are joined by denisa longopolyi, a member of the Supervisory Board of the ukrainian foundation. Of startups head of unicorn nest mr. Denisov i congratulate you im glad to see you on the air of the channel stress election day im also glad to see you cool the background and i think it was also provided by ukrainian technologies from the point of view of the use of drones of the strike direction , so you now have considerable experience in communicating with our startups of various orientations, now there are companies that offer solutions in the field among them at home of security and defense. And i wanted to hear about the assessment of these areas, but first you should comment on this thesis that i said earlier, whether it is really possible to say that ukraine should bet on development of the economy on a military basis, and under this we hear programs for financing projects, training people, etc. What are your evaluations of this thesis well, my evaluations of this thesis so, yes, we need it and we can do it, but i would probably be a little pessimistic because if we will look, for example, at israel and at other countries in which, e. E. Defense take or e. E. Military technology has developed. Then you can see that it is not a year , not two, not even 5. If we are going to play this , it is a very long road. Well, i would plan not less than 10 years old well then what does that mean in any case, the first step must be taken already today, they spoke literally a week ago, it seems, on the itform on the forum where you had two interesting speeches, one of them , if i am not mistaken, related to investments in the ukrainian tag sector and in defense startups, and the other speech was about how you evaluate the potential of Ukrainian Companies that offer samples that are supposed to fly, so i would like you to summarize it in one of your ee summarizing speeches about how you currently evaluate this potential of ukrainian ee of a military startup, what is cool about the current activity of our Young Companies aa well, first of all, i want to note that it turned out this way yes what i have er now er experience of communicating with such companies er it came from three directions the first is that i have an education as a faculty member of Space Systems of the kyiv polytechnic and i understand what flies, second, i have many friends who are on the front , who are in intelligence, who need to be helped with drones, and we are trying to do it. And third, i am the last 18 19 years in startups in venchuki i asked the industry, and i understand, and who finances startups in general, that is, i met more than 200 startups , i have the numbers somewhere, i wont bring them up now, but there were more than two hundred, but less than a hundred, but no startups and groups of people, including companies that make something that flies. Well, i can only tell about my experience based on these meetings. I dont know what is being done in other industries. First of all, secondly, i have a very powerful network. From investors and some of them it turned out that they financed and are financing , including military technologies, in the same Silicon Valley there is a separate, separate direction from difenstek, and there are large productions in raysion and other Global Companies that produce something capable of killing on the battlefield. And after combining this experience with yes, i found out that there is a Network Among companies that cooperate with nato and with people who consult or are in the middle of nato, and i talked to everyone and i have several ideas about what is happening and where it can be develop first aa when we talk about investment is not, well, we are talking about money in exchange for a share in the company , and this is usually done by a carrier fund, where are the angels, and they understand that they need to get this money back, preferably with a multiplier, that is, they invest in the business and they are very we are far from helping ukraine as a country that is fighting there, first of all, and secondly, there are people who donate something on rent , it should be noted that we have donations when donors buy something and give it to the front a this is a separate separate string and this is the only one we have very well developed and this is probably partly our trap, but there are now investors who invest in development and this is how much i spent about a year. I met almost every day. At the helm and the main problem we have is that when people invest in a business , they expect that the company they invest in will play by the rules of this business. Participation in International Tenders because when we talk about the sale of arms, for example, to the middle east, to asia or well, we are not talking about europe, america, but such markets are more understandable for us, where there are no powerful , sufficiently massive, powerful players, where the ukrainians can sneak in, first of all, if the team does not have understanding how to get there, she will not get money, and secondly, we have such a concept that not all our Companies Understand , as a military standard, this is a separate standard according to which all military, technological, all are produced and developed products which are used in the military and this is a very important thing, because it is several volumes , including how to solder, how to close, what is needed inside, and it is very expensive to take into account during development, and most of our companies that do something, they are focused on molding with, as the americans say that there are bricks made of feces and sticks, something that can literally kill muscovites today. And when they decide what they will make products that can be sold in asia and spend a couple of years and a million money on it there something that will fly and kill tomorrow, they choose this direction so that it can be quickly put to the front, and such companies are almost not interesting to international investors, but they can count on donor contributions, our diaspora is very active here and they can count on the fact that volunteers and donors will bathe in their feet. They have something that can also be supplied to the front , and this is a separate direction. There were few companies, then the probability of success was very small. Now we have hundreds of such companies, and maybe even thousands, and the probability that one of them will succeed and a competitive product for Global Markets will be created is very high, very high , so there are literally 4 minutes ago that an air alert was announced. I would like to study these four minutes, tell about certain directions and projects with contacts with our teams, what impressed you personally, but there was a feeling of exactly that. Well, powerful the basis for the creation of such military startups and the creation of concrete connections on the battlefield. Well, first of all, before the invasion, we had a large number of startups that did something on military topics, and there is no rush, and if we look at what is flying now and kills and what is very similar to worldclass products is a company that has many years of experience there 2 3 4 even 10 years and i found several dozen such companies and it surprised me a lot and it gives hope that they will be able to do something a company that only started doing something with the beginning of a fullscale invasion, they are only at the very beginning of this journey and they will need a few more years first to catch up with what is already there and then to develop something that will be better than that , but the number of people is the number of technologies that are involved and the exchange and communication with the military and the instant test of what it has produced gives us a very high chance that in the course of 23four fivefive or more years we will have powerful products with which you can will do something on Global Markets mr. Thank you very much for these optimistic forecasts. It is a pity that there is a lack of time due to hostile actions with enemy aircraft. I hope that we will continue this conversation there. There are prospects, so thank you for your inclusion for your experience , and i would like to remind our viewers that denis longopolyi, a member of the Supervisory Board of the ukrainian startup fund, and the head of the unicorn nest company, were in etherius press. We go down to the mop storage and literally in a few minutes we will continue this program of ours, but from another place ukrainians romanticize freedom, this is how it happened in our tradition, will, freedom, all this is like air , something that you cannot touch, but without it you cannot breathe, and on the one hand it is really, just like the classics, because there is no zloty , comparing all the gold against freedom, it is just a swamp, but only now, when they try to conquer us again, not metaphorically, but literally, when they try to capture or destroy. Only now did the understanding of freedom come has a price and its excessive juice must be paid and we pay we must remember all the grief that the russian peace brought us remember that this will never happen again people are being developed and there is no way you can rebuild it like this house you are a human being you dont do that you drive yourself and do something. You just forgot to go to them from the golden one of our country, they did. And we also have to forever preserve the feeling of unity, the feeling of one people, one big family, when every ukrainian wants to be involved in our victory, and daughters, dont give up on ukraine dont give it to anyone because it is ours and we will overcome everything. We will win. You who are ukrainians will protect our land because we are strong, strong as the land, a documentary about strong ukrainians, about us, saturday, august 19, 11 15 a. M. Espresso. Ukrainians are pureblooded, but it so happened that at the end of the war, a Hunger Strike began here in ukraine, and my