Of seven from the point of view of further Financial Support for ukraine in view of how it is advancing in relation to our reforms, this restoration of electronic declaration, and literally this week , the approved law on the law on the draft law, another project that has not yet been signed by the president on the antimonopoly committee, and it would be possible even rejoice because we in the hall directly, at least at the last stage, succeeded in knocking down these norms that directly contradicted this law of the rightwing European Union. But at the same time, despite the fact that this law will grant greater powers to strengthen the role of the antimonopoly committee, so that it would be absolutely appropriate in accordance with the practices of the European Union, although there is another important element of how an institution should function the functioning of an institution that corresponds to the fight against monopolies , the ukrainian parliamentarians, well, gently missed it is about the independence of the antimonopoly committee, and as far as im concerned, it doesnt add anything positive to us. Its good that weve taken this step, which concerns changes, lets say, changes in the powers of the monopoly committee, but without the independence of this body, its very difficult to count on what it is it will be counted as a definite plus by our colleagues. There is still a lot of work to be done in several other areas, including the independence of the specialized anticorruption prosecutors office, the strengthening of the National Anticorruption bureau of ukraine, and er, about specific steps that should be provided to them by the executive power of ukraine, so we will see in the future how effectively and how quickly the parliament will advance. Months of last year, and in contrast to, or rather, the damage to the quality of those decisions that were adopted then and later, bravo heard as re, but our colleagues from the leadership of the Verkhovna Rada of ukraine said that the council had already done everything that depended on it with regard to these seven conditions of the european commission, we have a chance to fulfill the tasks that exist, but will they, er, cope with them, and the ukrainian authorities, both the Verkhovna Rada and the government, such other executive structures, and it remains well, for now , it seems to me that it is unclear what more the authorities are aiming to do lets say 80 work instead of aiming for 120 , which would actually remove any political possible hmmm speculation or uh doubts among Member States about a decision at the end of this year as i recall now there is a situation where we can, in principle, get rid of the candidate status if we do not fulfill the conditions by a certain moment or it will not happen, and you are right, but vitaliy, indeed , this is exactly how these seven eh seven conditions were formulated, these are the conditions that actually well, we should secure the candidate status of ukraine in the European Union, at the same time, lets say, there is a certain political component that allows us to count on the fact that if the conditions are fully and qualitatively fulfilled by ukraine , the European Partners will be ready to go to a step towards the opening of negotiations on membership already this year. For us, this is a very important window of opportunity due to the fact that next year, in the 24th year , elections will be held in the European Union. Also, we can already see how the electoral process in certain countries is already affecting e on the political situation from the point of view of even the willingness to support ukraine and next year the countries of the European Union will go through their political cycles even lower and this will definitely complicate the process of such a prioritization of decisionmaking in relation to ukraine or moldova or georgia in principle, if we talk about georgia in general, do you accept that georgia gets candidate status because now the georgian authorities are preparing the situation in such a way that it seems as if the European Union can make an unfair decision, as the police say, we hear these statements from government officials georgia in it, of course , i would very much like the georgian people to have this opportunity to secure their future through candidate status. In the European Community , the setting of society itself is unambiguous about the european and clearly aimed at the west aa although, in my opinion, the speed and quality of the fulfillment of the conditions that georgia received for obtaining this candidate status does not leave much optimism for the European Union to make a decision regarding the candidate georgia already this year if we talk about what is happening now between ukraine and poland how do you generally assess this crisis what is it based on several things i think that first of all you and i should understand that this is such a certain cold shower and er, we need er clarity of understanding that our path to the European Union to membership in the European Union will involve both a huge amount of homework and serious and sometimes extremely tough negotiations with various member countries and with european institutions for so that we can protect this or that sector of the economy and count on the fact that we will have the opportunity to develop it, this is one of the lessons that , in my opinion, we should have already learned from this whole situation and started working on it already to work on other things. We also understand that it is partly political, precisely the tension that certainly accompanies any election in any country. It allows today to take advantage of various Political Forces inside poland, and the situation that concerns, among other things, e import from ukraine of cereal grains e of Agricultural Products in general Agricultural Products impact on the market of the domestic polish domestic market of these products although we can talk here well here there are these two large layers of this influence and in fact if there was no such tacit agreement and individual sectors of polands economy, or even the interests of, lets say, the same Logistics Companies or, lets say , traders of one or another grain. What kind of situation would ukrainian grain not cause on the territory of poland . Thats why we have to understand with you that there were parts of polish society and politics and business that took advantage of the fact that ukrainian Agricultural Products remained on the territory of poland and did not simply transit through poland. And now we feel what is this element of our relations and what is it for us that is absolutely critical for us, especially given that the grain corridor is completely blocked, the sea grain corridor is completely blocked by the Russian Federation, and now he, well, lets say, played with other colors, political colors, and of course here there is a certain er, well, a certain tension, which is connected precisely with the approach of the elections in poland. I hope that the position of the european commission, which could be more proactive, and the position of the ukrainian government, which should also well, lets say we conduct this conversation in a professional manner, with arguments, with numbers, with possibilities, with proposals, that is, regarding the extent to which one or another of our goods can pass without affecting the economy of poland through the territory of poland with these proposals, we could do everything still cope with this situation well, the positive thing is that it is obvious that uh , unfortunately, unfortunately, this situation now has additional consequences for other elements of our relations between poland and ukraine, and this is very painful because some things are getting worse that went far away to the second to the third to the fourth plan during the fullscale invasion of the Russian Federation against ukraine when poland realized that the priority for it is Still National security and its national interests. And it is to help ukraine as much as possible because eh hmm poland can be next if eh russia does not they will kick in the teeth in ukraine, just now Valery Chalyi said that the west would make a big mistake if it would subjugate the situation at all. His vision of the situation is an electoral motive, and he had it in mind the united states, of course, comes first. There is an impression that politicians in poland are now primarily driven by electoral motives when they think about their relations with ukraine. After all, not political interests, state interests, this does not always coincide among politicians, and this is really a challenge for us, and it is also extremely important that from these statements, from the political fire of this, the moods of societies change, and this it is very dangerous because it is such a mutual mutual influence, first politicians influence society with their statements and actions, and then societys expectations change and they influence those politicians they want to elect, and this is really a serious danger for ukraine and for us it is fundamentally important now as much as possible to try not only our position but also clarify their interests in order to continue clearly prioritizing aid to Ukraine Joint action with ukraine in their policies towards society in various countries, but as you know, we also have certain restrictions, and for today, lets say, parliamentary diplomacy will suffer after the regular failures of the servants of the people after their scandals of some of their colleagues who allow themselves some luxurious trips during the war abroad, but not for work purposes, not for work purposes and not with work tasks , and hmm, because of this, bankova decided that today peoples deputies do not need to be allowed to go on any business trips, even except for parliamentary assemblies, which is significant will generally limit the voice of ukraine abroad. Maybe we just dont approach such work with western Public Opinion very delicately, maybe some other tools are needed if i mean well, i recently saw an interview with the president of poland new york toms big text but whats interesting that the author of this interview does not hide why he took it, he says that angeli duda is a representative of the rightwing populist forces in poland and that these forces are very close to the rightwing populist forces in the united states, those forces that do not really want to support ukraine, we know the position of former president donald trump. And listen, a person who is close to you in spirit , in terms of political views , in terms of political tools, tells you about ukraine and about russia, that is, it is obvious that the person you consider there is a person of other political views, you have little authority she is the author of her own person, and there already duda can influence the supporters of donald trump because in many issues and the views of these camps are identical, we do not work like that, unfortunately, i noticed more than that, i will tell you that sometimes when we allow ourselves the International Arena to simply act with calls for moral responsibility and blackmailing our partners regarding what other issue this also does not add aa weight to us and really should fight about this filigree about eapproaches and opportunities labor through different Political Forces through and through precisely different political families through different public analytical organizations and it would be best if this, well, all our efforts, to some extent, should coordinate with each other but it requires, you know, such a team and Partnership Within the country in order to be able to produce it for the west. Well, unfortunately , we definitely do not have enough of this, and ukraine still needs to learn this aerobatics. Thank you, ms. Ivanna. The committee on the integration of ukraine into the European Union was on the air, we talked about this european integration, now we will try to talk about the european integration of another country, georgia , mamukomalashvili, founder and commander of the Georgian National legion good day, sir, mother, congratulations, congratulations , so lets talk about the russiangeorgian war of 2008, 15 years have already passed, yes, in principle. We ourselves, the community, more probably, did not draw the conclusion that in russia it is impossible to compromise, this is the most important thing. What we could have learned and what we did not learn. Unfortunately, the war in georgia was not subject to such it was publicized and many politicians tried to practice it. Unfortunately , at the beginning of the war, many politicians from European Countries tried to exchange for georgia , and for georgia, the situation was quite difficult and very cynical. Then the president of russia, dmitry medvedev, who was one of the main participants in this attack , maintained his reputation as a liberal. I hope that he will carry out reforms even after 2008. A supporter of the war. It is clear that it was almost a few years ago, but in general, in 2008, when he really commanded a real war, this also looks very strange from the point of view of todays day , in my opinion. Ukraine scattered russell, and er, this fear prevented many politicians from making any decisions regarding russia. Thats exactly what happened in georgia. He was the first president after the collapse of the soviet union. Russia showed demonstrated the power of georgia is far from that of georgia, but of the whole world, and peace has fallen under it. Lets say it like this. Unfortunately , no measures were taken. The russians never paid georgia any reparations, according to the principle of bringing them, they never paid compensation, and ill repeat myself once again. And European Countries openly criticized georgia for the fact that it started such an inadequate war with such a large country. From tbilisi, georgia was the first to launch such strikes, although in fact this missile attack was preceded by a whole series of such National Sovereign territory of georgia from the side of the occupied stepson already then, the south, not only me, i remember how it happened, and for me it was very unpleasant to see how haha western mass media show bombers bombing tbilisi and say that it is georgian bombers bombing one of their regions. And in principle, the truth was quite complicated for many politicians, and no one was able to make a final decision. This is recognized, and georgia, er, all the time, said that the next full one can be added by the way, ukraine. Tell me, in fact, the sentiments that were in Georgian Society towards russia, they are also very bitter. No one wanted your contemporaries in russia, yet the refusing majority has not changed its position, it will never be changed , that is, the Current Situation is not about the russian government , practically, in the political power, it is not it means that the Georgian Society somehow came to terms with something. Georgia has been at war with russia for about 400 years. I think this struggle will continue until victory. And how then can you explain the idea that the Georgian Society has not changed its attitude towards russia, but the georgian government has essentially cut off your friends . Who is ready with russia to have a Good Relationship with budapest and beijing . What is this paradox, a side effect of the indifference that some of the western countries showed in their time because they could not reach georgia they couldnt physically occupy it, and they couldnt occupy it not only because sarkazy agreed with migaet zemlya, that is, with putin, and russia knew that if they tried to take everything , they would put the main part of their army back. In the last 50 years, it would be impossible. So there is a fear that georgia has a wellequipped and professional russian army. And there was, and they admitted it themselves, but the point is that, in principle, after this act of aggression, russia did not receive absolutely a and she did not suffer any for the treatment and all that we see in the following indicates that russia has already been able to occupy the political power of georgia. I think that this process, the interrelationship of these processes, released what we have today in georgia and ukraine, it is necessary to draw conclusions from what happened in georgia, well, in fact, all of this, all of this influence did not start yesterday , the truth is, even president Mikhail Saakashvili after the war, he canceled the visa regime for the members of the Russian Federation. Even then, i was also surprised by the division, that is, the actual division of responsibility. You see, putin is to blame. And the russian citizens are not to blame, they are not to blame. I am quoting in essence, the president , then what is possible, yes, to be honest, i remember this fragment , i did not select it. I would not want the russian occupiers, and yes, they were also occupiers , to disperse, they would go to my city and eh used aa lets say the services of erer of georgia so, well, its not pleasant for me, but nevertheless it can be, i think it s just like that and its worth asking saakashvili they gave me it er there were such fragments i remember it well i think its not about saakashvilis personality, im not saying this here in order to present any claims to saakashvili to someone. Im also talking about the state of society itself. The whole society accepted this logically. Let them come. Let them. We will have a tourist business here. It will be touristic, thats the end of it before we start selling wine, you can understand the orientation, you can tell me that georgians will not forgive russias aggression against the economic orientation of the Georgian Society , regardless of political views, it has not changed, i have observed this more than once in georgia itself. Well, you know, i lived in georgia, unlike i know you very well, and the attitude of the Georgian Society to the russians themselves, and unlike what happened 10 years ago , i can say that i have never met russian practical georgians. эtу эtу ху saakashvili i dont know whether he opened it or not and in a oneway visa regime, but it was very difficult to run into a russian somewhere, and now it has taken completely different forms and they have started to visit georgia en masse. Well, i am exactly im talking about it. But this is also happening. Bad weather, not two. Occupied and by animals does not feel any connection between it to the georgian people you feel yes yes very much voice because i sometimes interrupt you because your voice comes late nothing nothing i said what do you think and in russia itself the attitude of georgia has changed in a serious way over the years the society does not develop and does not value and remains the same thieves, so that the intentions of the empire are realistic, whatever they were, and the support of imperialism from the Russian Society , they remain in force, this will not change anything. I will become free, and in the second case , the Russian Society of russia can evolve, because ana has proven more than once that she cannot live even in peace with her neighbors, not with one neighbor, only with topics that she has already occupied. And tell me. What do you think, should the European Union grant georgia candidate status now . It would be good or bad. I wish absolutely everything would have happened so that this would not have happened, although their rhetoric is completely opposite, but georgia today fell out of the democratic channel , this is what georgia is dealing with today, there are several thousand political prisoners. The government is carrying out political repressions. And i dont think that with such relations and such a quality of democracy, georgia will be able to become or become a member of nato. In principle, yes. In principle , if we are talking about the situation that has developed now in georgia, you admit that there may be a change of power, there are some real new forces that can change, i said, within the political situation in the country, there are no such forces today , unfortunately, the oligarch did not make any noise about him, he will bribe a huge part of the opposition, and in georgia there is none a consolidated position, and everything, almost all the figures representing the position, they discredited themselves. This is what is called a political crisis, i thought, anyway. And in the near future, there will be a leader, there will be a new cow in politics, and i i hope very much i hope that the political situation will change well, these are the young people who came out to protest against the Agent Exchange law. The police have their own views , they have their own free view , and this new generation can become a new political force. These 15 years that have passed since the russogeorgian war can be said to be such a real war that lessons have not been learned because many people in ukraine and in the west did not imagine that russias ambitions reach not only abkhazia, the southern grid and not only the influence to a small country in the caucasus and that they reach much further. And it seems to me that no one ever wanted to believe at all in the scale of these ambitions. If there was an occupation of crimea then they also believed that for putin crimea is a sacred territory for russians to open the central territory, they are satisfied with this, but there is no need to climb onto the ukrainian mainland when hostilities began on the mainland, they began to unpack again oh, these are only the territories where the socalled russianspeaking population is, and this ghoul cannot really fight with ukraine, she just wants to destabilize it with the help of these territories, and it will be enough to find some kind of consensus that