Will strikes on enemy ships help the ukrainian counterattack, wagner in belarus, will prigozhins mercenaries be able to seize the suvalk corridor, he wants to propose peace again, what erdogan and putin will speak. Russia is almost continuously shelling the deoccupied khersons. Today, the russians hit a ninestory building in kherson. Unfortunately , two women, 59 and 93, were killed. 12 people wounded also during firefighting caused by enemy shelling three rescuers were injured fresh consequences of enemy terror we can watch the video the question of our house dreamed i was asleep and it all flew over me it was a long time ago well and then i jumped out because it is so light as i look and there it started to burn, everyone left, thats standing for no one, and there he was on the fourth floor, a woman jumped out and there the rest of the bandage took everything, no, she was in the kitchen with a cat , and immediately in the flats, on sunday evening , the Ukrainian Military launched rocket attacks the russian occupiers are delivering equipment and weapons to those units that are in the temporarily occupied territories of kherson region and zaporizhzhia. Lets see how it all happened. As a result of the strikes, 12 rockets were left from the bridges flying towards the bridge. соединяеt арабаtскую сtрелкой genychesk well, nine missiles were shot down, the German Parliament reached a consensus on the transfer of longrange rocket urus missiles that hit 500 km to ukraine about it today, the peoples deputy of ukraine yyor chernyav said everything about the peace talks in saudi arabia, the situation on the black sea and the grain agreement, we will talk about it in the next hour, for those who are currently watching on youtube, i suggest you take part in the survey. We are asking you today about the following. Ukraine to negotiate with russia about peace yes no your option your option please write under this video in the comments we are interested to know your opinion i want to introduce todays guest he is a politiciandiplomat extraordinary plenipotentiary the ambassador of ukraine to the United States of america in 20152019 Valery Chalyy p valery i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our air i congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes let s start with the main news of the last few days in the last weekend at least this is the meeting of widow arabia e 50 40 representatives of Different Countries gathered and discussed a peace formula for ukraine at one table. We know that ukraine did not take part in these negotiations, but there was a representative of china, and the fact that the positions of the parties became less categorical. How do you, mr. Valery, evaluate the negotiations at geely based on those reports, at least from the office of the president of ukraine and from the world press, because there were no other reports , there were no other reports, because there really is no final document in copenhagen on similar meetings where there were three times less countries, and now that our partners , primarily the usa, have joined the organization of saudi arabia this is a success in organizing such a meeting, in principle, it was possible to gather so many countries, the main thing is even not the number. And the fact that there were countries of the west and er countries of the socalled er global level, well, global level is a broad understanding. But we are talking about the brics countries and brazil and the park. Although they were online, they were not physically present there, but in principle this is participation and this in this regard, this is a good result because gathering them at one table even at such a round table and you see china and the usa, this is actually, in my opinion, one of the key results uh, what was achieved uh, well, we can talk ukraine together with the audits that was the meeting is very important to china, the United States and an active discussion with the participation of china without russia without russia at this stage is important because it is a signal of greater such isolation. Well, if it is isolation, then at least china has clearly shown that the position of china and russia, despite their, as they say, Eternal Partnership after all, they have their own interests, and thus, in principle, this is a positive statement. And i think that it is true because it was said by sources and from various statements that, after all, the basic principle is the territorial integrity of ukraine and this means, well, at least in the understanding of ukraine, the borders of 1991, crimea, donets, luhansk, and all the territories that are occupied, what piskov was trying to do, this is the spokesman of putins propagandist , he was trying to somehow join russia, so at least we agreed clearly, all of this is already a good basis for further steps. Not themselves, of course, one of the goals of these meetings is a meeting of the National Security advisors of Different Countries. Well, a little bit of a column or those people who are defined as such , the situation here is a little asymmetrical, that is, from the side of ukraine, the leader actually participates of Foreign Policy of ukraine, andriy yarmak, and from the side of other countries, National Security advisers or the Deputy Ministers of Foreign Affairs, the delegation was also different from the ukrainian side, lets say roste momerov, the head of the state property fund, er, what actually, with all due respect, that is, roste, we died, well defon state property and where are the bilateral relations with all these countries in general , but they decided that way, that is, i think because the delegation resolved various issues not only directly the peace formula, but also a number of other issues about which we also heard information in general, the fact that it was held without russia is a plus, the results. I expect the most from the negotiations or from the contact of the National Security adviser, chaika sullivan, victoria nuland, the deputy secretary of state and representative, all calls to aahuey and these are the results, i think we will see later, even before the results of this meeting are announced, Dmytro Kuleba said that the arrival of the senior representative of the Chinese Government on eurasian issues to geely is a super breakthrough and a historic victory, although the wall street journal writes that liguey is at this meeting again voiced that plan, more faithful to the vision of the chinese side with 15 points, what was this plan, it was made public on february 24, 2023 , it was about an unconditional ceasefire in ukraine , and those who were there at this meeting say , again, according to the data of the wall street jormal about what they say about the fact that european diplomats have expressed reservations about this, that is , i understand that the position of the chinese is quite simple. First, we freeze the conflict or cease fire, then we sit down at the negotiating table and agree on something that is completely contradictory the peace formula proposed by zelensky, that is, the withdrawal of Russian Troops from the territory of ukraine, and then we hold some talks and a ceasefire, and then we hold some peace talks, well, that s the way it is. I heard from our official representatives, they say that there was no such thing before the deoccupation at all that it was possible to talk about further steps , instead, there are plans, well, those that we know are other plans , although it is stated that they were not discussed but for some reason the ministry of Foreign Affairs of china gives an official relief that exactly china has proposed its position to saudi arabia four of its points and there it is allowed to hold the peace summit without the complete deoccupation of the territory as officially we heard from representatives of the ukrainian side that there will be no concessions unless tactical concessions, what are tactical concessions . I dont know, no one has explained, but in any case , this is not the level of a meeting where such a decision can be made, it is the leaders of the countries themselves, and obviously the president and prime ministers these are the countries or what system in who will make the final decisions, so there will still be a lot of such preparation , and i will remind you that exactly what was planned for the summer is about this for 500 days of a war of largescale invasion, not everything is as it seems, as it is planned, so far, it is not us yet that these are preparatory meetings, but this meeting was successful at a high level from auditosaudi, they made a very good, hospitable reception and showed their role, which they really need. Also from the point of view of the image of positioning now in the world. So, in principle, uh, well, talk about historicity is too much, probably because i hear a historical site, it will determine everything historically, we have already heard such statements many well, i think that there is no need to build inflated expectations or many difficulties are still ahead and the main events will develop in accordance with the dynamics of the deoccupation of ukrainian territory by the armed forces of ukraine because there will be major decisions , and diplomacy or such a meeting will reflect the current state of affairs, that is , you understand, you can do a lot of diplomatic things this is a success, but here are the results are measured by specifics. That is, this is not the meeting where it was possible to get this concretely. Although i really hope that i do not have any information here. But i hope that the journalists will ask those who were members of the ukrainian delegation whether saudi arabia has agreed on a predetermined position on oil, or whether it is possible to calculate what will happen to prescribe russia due to the fact that it will not be able to finance its ee and mercenaries and occupation troops, was there an agreement with the countries that were there, a sensitive issue for our bilateral relations. Can we count on an increase humanitarian aid from china to india, at least to show that the change in chinas position is the result. I would very much like china to show not only by its presence, but by its actions that it does not follow russia, that it is, in principle, an independent country that wants to have a positive image and synten well, we will see if there will be such manifestations, but i emphasize once again that such working meetings are not yet summits at which key decisions are made. Of saudi arabia said that there is no complete lack of consensus and explained what he meant when he spoke of two sides, there is ukraine, there is russia, and that side, and that side. Not against peace talks, we will hear what exactly he said, the channel may be many difficulties for the parties to sit down at the negotiating table now, but you should also see that on the other hand there is no complete lack of consensus, for example, russia has stated that it has never opposed peace negotiations and has always supported a political solution ukraine also stated that it values and longs for peace. I feel that both sides have not closed the door to peace negotiations, only he is like that. Valery, you are me. Please explain to our viewers what peace negotiations mean after the russians leave our territory. It can only be in one case. I understand it in the Current Situation , when russia is defeated on the battlefield , that is, in another way, putin does not want to leave the territory of the ukrainian sands. All regions of yaki at the moment written in the constitution of the country as russian, that is, if according to this formula prescribed by zelensky, there will be peace talks after russia is no longer in our territory, we will restore the borders as of august 24 , 1991. This means that russia must capitulate , and even then we must talk about surrender is not about a Peace Agreement or not at all. We have a lot of definitions or concepts. The interpreter is different. Now i was talking about the summit. And you mentioned that it is not themselves security guarantees there are no security guarantees nobody does not give them, that is, nato is not spoken of as a guarantee of security. Now we are talking about the fact that we must necessarily reach an agreement with russia. That is, it was stated at our delegation that after this after the summit of ee leaders , it will be the same with russia with by putin, that is, i dont know how it will be, i think that under the conditions of the decision of the National Security and defense council, which was signed by the president of ukraine himself, that there will be no joint talks with Vladimir Putin as a war criminal, that is, i only see the option of some mediation actions from the other side. The forecast is not quite so our success will be in the case of deoccupation. And where the occupation means there will be no more negotiations with russia, that is, there will be a fact of consolidation of the territorial integrity of ukraine and beyond. I really hope for a guarantee of security through a nato member. As they say, as they said, the legal ones with russia, what does that mean, we will be legally confirming something with russia, i tell you from the moment you legally sit down with russia, there will be no gaga, no sanctions, no, and the threat will not go anywhere from russia, thats why how is this not a paradoxical scenario of an informal conclusion or, in fact, achieving our goals, this is now the best scenario, and the scenario when we ask for a compromise from russia through the mediation of other countries, well, this scenario can only be forced. In a war, it is clearly given by the one who received a complete defeat , and i think that this war will develop according to its own scenario. I give more chances that there will be none at all in the case of our success, some formally legal, then peace. And if this this will prove to me that, unfortunately, our combined forces and allies were not enough to pressure russia, the speaker of the Russian Foreign ministry , Maria Zakharova , said after the meeting in saudi arabia that she was not there, but she said that ukraine should agree to a neutral nonaligned and nonnuclear status wrote the text of zakharov and quoted it , the new territorial realities that have developed as a result of the residents of the new russian regions exercising the right to selfdetermination enshrined in the un charter must be recognized the demilitarization and denazification of ukraine, the rights of russianspeaking citizens and national minorities, well, in a word, i think that as they always repeat, but zakharova and putin always appeal to the un charter and the right to selfdetermination, but they are manipulating again because, in principle, it is not a separate nation that lived there on the territories of luhansk and donetsk regions and they declared that they want to create some kind of autonomy or to create their own state and according to the un charter they have such a right in this wing, this manipulation is correct, i understand that is, we are still talking about a nation and not about People Living in a separate territory who suddenly wanted to call themselves some kind of bryansk peoples republic and declare themselves and we will say well, what is in accordance with the un charter well, there are several very deep questions here in fact, during this time, you and i will not be able to discuss the International Legal aspects of the relationship. There is the right of a nation to selfdetermination and to protect the interests of states of integrity. I will only say that we have already gone through this entire history with russia after donetsk luhansk, when in principle the country at the un clearly agreed that in addition to the charter , there are also other documents that clearly regulate the nations right to selfdetermination. To put it briefly, in this case there is absolutely no parallel. All i will tell you is one thing. Issues from the point of view of international law, everyone knows very well that russia uh, well, in principle, it is just attacking and the un charter is violated in its basic uh , main articles of the violation. This is just a terrible violation, it destroys the general role of statute, the role of the security council, and all this is already recognized by russia, it is unlikely that they will be able to manipulate here, well, lets say, according to their logic , kutia or yachkeria are in their hands, and they have more of a right to selfdetermination, and not to the fact that they simply destroyed these er, the families of the unfortunate chechens were cut the soviet union and then russia did it. Well, what do we not know . Today, the whole world does not know this. That is, it is really a manipulation. But it is Still Necessary to keep it under control from the point of view of legal decisions and statements, but i will remind you of another story, now we will tell about separatism is another story, separatism has nothing to do with the right of a nation there to selfdetermination, but when there were manifestations of separatism in spain, do you remember that it is a Basque Country , the court has now accepted that this is unacceptable, that is, in fact, the whole system works this way now, in principle the exit of some territories from the states is not tolerated, and by the way, china, well, everyones position is different, you know that many of us do not recognize taiwan, but , in principle, china holds the position that separatism is also not allowed, that is russia she wont win anything here, its separatist games, she wont win anything for herself. And regarding the cases of ukraine, well, its basically bullying, because first you drop tons of bombs on the Maternity Hospital in mariupol, i. E. Then you forcefully take the children away or screw the heads of various to people there and to take these things with children out of the country , which is genocide and deportation, and then you talk about the fact that you are about selfdetermination, well, listen , this is already obvious to everyone, but to whom it is not obvious. I think our diplomatic work is Public Diplomacy must convey to those countries to whom it is not yet obvious. So here russia has no chance, where russia has a chance. Thats what they say, uh, how did they come up with this . That is, some stingray comes to your house and simply takes half of your house from you, takes it, points a gun at you and says listen, lets agree on whats on the ground. If it happened in life, it is the police are special services that act in the event of armed robberies of some kind, but the system in the world has simply failed because there are no such structures that would bring such criminals to their senses, so what is the problem . If such structures existed and there was consent or if there was an agreement now among these countries and not only the interests of the same china and india and brazil, then all this would end very quickly, only the isolation of the barge is complete, 100 of the embargo in a year would be the end of this war, that is, russia would simply fall it is obvious that it has fallen apart, because i think that there is no such agreement in the world and we need to form it, that is, that russia still has its place determined by the regime that exists. Russia means that they also support racism, a new type of fascism, therefore, in this case, unfortunately, the situation is such that without forceful pressure on this country, nothing will be achieved, forceful pressure must be on all fronts, where ukraine plays the main violin, but at the same time, sanctions why is rosatom still not under sanctions and also embargoed . Why is there no such thing, that is, you understand, all this has quieted down a bit, we talk a lot about the peace formula, and we talk less about the victory formula. That we will discuss the results of the negotiations, the deputy minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation says that we will go to bricks, talk about and discuss the results of the negotiations with partners, as he says, we will deliver a healthy common sense to the sponsors of the kyiv regime, the main result of the meeting in jeddah will be to convey common sense to the sponsors of the kyiv regime, the participation of the brics member countries can be beneficial. How do you feel about the idea that russia is trying to create an alternative to the western world with this structure of bricks and just a few hours ago there was a message that almost 20 countries are still ready to join, i. E. How far can this story continue and how far can russia create one of poles who will be interested in russian oil in some russian preferences, that is, how will this structure and organization compete with other structures in the world, and of course they will now try to do something mirrorlike, that is, with the participation of the same china and india, brazil, the south african republics of other countries to try now to take over this initiative to carry out something without ukraine that is, it becomes more difficult but nevertheless, everything is equal despite the fact that putin is already, well, he is not visiting or not visiting this meeting because they said they would arrest him. Well, of course he wont go, because even though medvedev is pulling out some bigots there, everyone will understand how it will end, so hes not a fool. Yes, he s a war criminal, but hes definitely not stupid to be played with they tried him like milosevic, then he died there therefore, in principle, they will try it, it is written, but it will be more difficult for them to do it now, although the initiative cannot be omitted here, the initiative to develop the involvement of other countries, which can be of a wider range this is a positive thing, the Un General Assembly will be there in september it will also be possible to continue the active line well, the main thing here is that you understand everything equally in these countries, each of the countries do not expect them to simply come to the same one that is planned and just how fair would it be to support ukraine and they will say yes, here is aggression according to the statute of ukrainians the ukrainians are suffering, they are killing, and that is why the aggressor should be condemned, they do not want to do that, they can tell you 50 things according to their interests, they have a lot of their interests there, and we have to look for points where we can attract their interest in Food Security energy security, joint actions, black sea freedom of navigation, freedom of navigation in the south china sea, here with other, well, with the western countries of the usa, that is , we need to really take the initiative, but somehow look for the result, uh, where not only by activity, but also by intelligent forecasted decisions, analysis of the situation, because the world is very cynical and in principle it will go only to Pragmatic Solutions that will interest them in the fact that they do not need a long war, as putin now wants to transfer it to the elections in himself and even better to the elections in the usa this is obvious to china as well it is not necessary in china, it cannot now realize its goal, which has long been set to acquire not the first but not the second in the world economically. Well, they want to rise militarily, but this does not allow them to rise higher, so uh , they will so uh, try and not