Of training for the armed villages of belarus, and of course they pass on their combat experience, which becomes free for the Belarusian Armed forces , which have never actually fought in combat operations. Well, but in general is perceived as a serious threat to belarusians actually in relation to these exercises, so what number of soldiers do these exercises cover, and is the position of these soldiers known . Covered by these studies and what their views are, or what knowledge they will take from the wagnerites. They can then use it to their advantage. An example of the 7,000 wagnerites who arrived on the territory of belarus. There is no detailed information about how many belarusian troops received such training. I will be poisoned by goethe. Witches interact with each other, different structures, on the one hand, this is a professional hire from wagners group, on the other hand, goethe is a professional military , and they still exist in different Legal Systems in their terrible goals and tasks , we understand that bagnerov is for everything where will they hide their loyalty to the kremlin, and this is a foreign state for the belarusian military, and what is for them , after all, i am not guided by the constitution, it is slow to be guided by the constitution of belarus, and they go with the norms of International Law in the way they conduct themselves and the vision of a the wagnerites are guided by other foreign and sometimes alien National Interests to us. And i am not the same. It is also known that i do not violate International Law in the rules of introducing military money, and this experience, of course , cannot be considered as becoming in those sensiya чtо профиссияные вонные still want to adhere to the norms of International Law of waging war. As i understand it, the ukrainians wanted to translate that they are shelling ukraine again from the territory of belarus, because this has not happened for more than a year, i have a question, if actually putin is not opposed to to open another front in this war, a front on the side of belarus. Well, how does lukashenko , if he still has any possibilities of operation , succeed now, well, not to lose this adventure, or was he simply not given a command, just so that we understand better or determine and what is better to go to ukraine and stop there somewhere because, well, it actually looks hopeless. This story is for the purpose of reaching kyiv , lets say, or further provoke the west and strain the west, because lets say now, even in the republic of poland, they said that they need to strengthen the borders, they were lucky to move the borders and also ask for the help of nato partners. So, has the time not come, or is it again for me . Republic of belarus well, first of all, he knows that last time rockets flew from the territory of belarus against ukraine, for example, in kastryshnik last year, a little less than a year ago, and the fact that the russians launched daggers from tambov against ukraine. I am not working on the territory of belarus. It seems to me that the russians simply do not even think about this, because in order to drag belarus into the war, such provocations are not necessary, you just need to let lukashenko fall and he will be forced to carry out such an order, but as of today, the Belarusian Armed forces simply do not ready to be a serious force that will be able to influence the course of events in the super war of ukraine. At the same time, the infrastructure of the territory of belarus is a very convenient location for raising rates, as if pressuring the countries of the European Union, nato countries the same er to poland lithuania to latvia apart from how er the creator of the problem for them is already actually on their territory er and the president in about the brick border of belarus with the countries of the European Union here it is true you can do a lot a lot of problems are attracting attention from poland, for example, lithuania, and support for ukraine delta, there is something about the situation on the border with belarus, thats why we see such an instrumentalization of belarus in the hands of the kremlin , eh, a group of belarusian National Interests. In the interest of the normal people in common with our european neighbors and all this is done in the interests of the kremlin, again, everything is in the sum, how does it look like lukashenko loses his subjectivity, buys control over the territory of belarus and becomes a goethe in favor of the kremlin , we want to talk about the belarusian opposition as far as it is today rallied and in fact, the results of the conference that took place in warsaw yesterday, the conference new belarus 2023 was organized by the office of Svitlana Tikhanovskaya, took place in warsaw, they spoke about the ways of the countrys transition to democracy about how to build a new country and in fact there was probably a threat to the security of svitlana er Svitlana Tikhanovskaya because actually at the request of the polish police after a short introduction they asked her to leave the premises , what were the directions of movement in the future and what terms were agreed upon for two days, at first, there was a round of 100 Political Forces, and after a public conference at which four free impressions of the document were accepted by the serabihs, i would first note here the declaration of solidarity with the ukrainian people. Where are we . Er, we express our position of support for full support for the support of ukraines struggle for its independence, for its territory , integrity, we also mean moral refusal for the money of the belarusian state in this war, and we are talking about the fact that we will be ready to cooperate with ukraine, and after the last democratic one, for the correction of those mistakes that will be made , it is desirable for us to hide in a Good Relationship with the ukrainian people, because we see our future in partnership with ukraine, between democratic ukraine democratic belarus and free ukraine also adopted an important strategic declaration that belarus will strive to improve the European Union, this is a strategic mint for us and , of course, this is done in a very complex geopolitical context, colleagues, in fact , russia will try to destroy belarus uh, im trying to do it from ukraine, just like us , but with other methods, uh, belarus has become a target for aggression. Er, it is a threat to our independence, to our national identity, and we need to take more measures to hide our state, hide our nation, and with obrostov in the european connection, this is one of the biggest arbitrary ways out of this situation, because we are wrapped up there. We will be able to hide and our statehood and sovereignty and national identity. We also agreed on the joint steps of Political Forces in the whole sphere, the direction of the support of the polish volunteers, and the known cooperation with the agreed states from ukraine and others Important International balls for us , it is important to shake the unity of the presence of the Democratic Power of the Civil Society of the belorusskaya community, they are united in order to make the democrats in belarus free from the Russian Military presence. We see goethes path in this sense. I will point out , of course, postusya kalinovskaya, who are competing now in ukraine. Super from the russian aggression, and we started in the first steps before how aa got closer as if our efforts could complement each other aa stick from all kalinovskaya justy its strengths are in the political structures of belarus, which are now also in exile and for a month more in poland in lithuania where in their own tanks we will be able to achieve much more with such synchronized work. Thank you , we wish you success, that everything planned will be successful. 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My dad was my sniper for the tankers , he stood so well that not a single orc was able to sneak up on our positions, he even received an order, and mine knocked out two enemy tanks and destroyed an entire Ammunition Depot and my dad served in air defense and shot down missiles over kiev, finally i can tell about it ah cool 17 45 on the clock and now we will talk with yury savchuk, historian , general director of the National Museum of the history of ukraine in the Second World War glory to ukraine p yuriy greetings to all listeners and viewers the motherland, as it is now called ukraine, mother. I apologize for what they call now , even after the replacement of the russian soviet hunchback, ukrainian tourism is still disturbing, and there are still discussions about whether it is worth preserving even a little after transforming or needing to be demolished , it says that now the project is under er , the demolition project is not at the right time, because it is quite a precious thing. Therefore, it is necessary to leave the opinions different, but after the installation of the complete installation of the trident, they saw that there is another soviet symbol on the dagger, the soviet stars, so my first question is whether there will be any further transformation of this monument of ducks. It seems to me it is important for our viewers. Well, first of all, it is not a dagger, but a sword that is held in the hands of the motherland, the motherland, which is enough for the slope of the dnipro. This is the first, second, you are talking about dismantling, and how can we dismantle the monument with the trident with the main an element of our state coat of arms, how can we dismantle ukraine . I think that this issue should already be removed from the agenda of public discussion, it is marginal in relation to the diversity of opinions. So they will be present. And i would like to say that they are not some kind of constant, they are not is something attitudes, they change just as we change , our country changes and the whole world changes during this fullscale stage of the russoukrainian war and definitely i want to say that the motherland is a monument he acquired in new sensidov e of a new content, and the process of its redefinition took place just last year. Our museum hosted the motherlandmother redefined exhibition, which opened for our visitors exactly one year ago at this time in 2022 , and already then we noticed a change in these Public Attitudes i am not talking only about the survey in action where 850,000 are almost a million and for our countries this is now an extremely adult population, this is an extremely large number, but we, due to numerous memes of interpretations of jokes to others, we showed at this exhibition absolutely without interfering in the interpretation of ee the meaning of the motherland is completely different. I am not saying more seriously and seriously that the absolute majority of patriotic events related to this war , the fullscale phase of this war, took place on the territory of our museum. Unfortunately, i was a witness very sad events this is when the fallen defenders of kyiv were escorted on their last journey in march of last year, and it happened exactly from the territory of our museum with the request of the relatives of their close relatives to escort them on their last journey to see not only how ee shevchenko wrote under the dnieper and the cliffs and to see the monument of the motherland to have our National Flag e and it is extremely exciting most of the flags of today ee armed forces that fight and protect our lives today in the east right at these moments for that we are grateful to them, they were handed over on the territory of our memorial, i. E. In finalizing i would like to say that in fact the past took place very actively and now this process of redefinition , rethinking and changing the function of the meaning of this monument continues and this is our memorial the fact that it was erected in soviet times, and the fact that it was called, in the vision of the kremlin and moscow and the center of the soviet russian empire , to play one or another role. Yes, but the fact that it is transforming and changing is obvious. And i would like to ask you to look at it also on an important one an event for the museum, an exhibition, which is the name of the sign on the shield, which we plan to open on the same day well, on the eve of independence day, during the celebrations, in order to clearly show, based on facts , documents, materials, this unique process and if we talk about monuments yes, lets say by appealing and refer to this discussion. I would like to give such an example. Please tell me. Organic er in our history today, are they ukrainian or are they er those er ideals and and er important and important for Todays Society for todays generation i think that these questions remain rhetorical mr. Yurii if we Start Talking about rethinking about a new understanding but it seems to me that it is not enough to dress up a soviet monument, so a soviet monument in a ukrainian embroidery er, add ukrainian symbols and automatically this monument will acquire some new meaning and to tell that this is ukraine, or otherwise, because we have very similar examples that happened the other day in other regions, not in kyiv, in the lviv region, in the frankiv region, when soviet monuments are associated with the Second World War, as it was then considered a national war, so even give on those monuments, it actually refers to the soviet interpretation of the Second World War. So, when the monuments are simply dressed up and positioned in a completely different way, but here it is also about the preservation of historical memory and that those who come to this museum or they will read about it, they will learn about this monument, and the children who will come there, who do not remember to thank the god of the soviet times , and could understand where it came from, so as not to interpret the soviet monument in any other way, is there any work going on in that direction, of course, i would just like to start my work again comment from the trials, you collapsed again, but you said about the dismantling of the ukrainian symbols, it is not about the dismantling of the ukrainian symbols, uh, and i think that this is a really deep question , really a guest question, but the essence of it is completely i already told the other about the process of redefining and the components of which are a lot of um important processes and hm er lets say the replacement of the er old soviet coat of arms with a trident this is only the tip of the iceberg, this is only an external visualization, for today it is about the museum should get a new name for today it is about the fact that we have to expand the new er chronological framework it is about the fact that we have to create a new perexposition it is about the fact that today our museum which collected the largest collection of artifacts was during of this fullscale phase uh, today the museum claims, and i say this openly , moreover, i repeatedly repeat it in the media and in the public space, we are fighting to become a place of memory about the heroism of uh hmm our people during the russianukrainian period war and become a place of commemoration of our great victory in the future and not only of ukraine, but also of this Free Democratic world. The essence of which is aimed at creating a museum of the war for the independence of the country and it happened in our history that the state tradition of the countries, the struggle for statehood arose with particular urgency in the moments of the greatest military conflicts in the human of the history of human civilization, this was the case during the first world war, when in 9181918 the fourth universal was proclaimed , and of course, the appearance on the map of europe and the world map of such a large geographical country with such a Large Population and a country with with such a potential it could happen only in the conditions of the world and it was decided only in the world in the conditions of global interaction of world processes or at least regional at the level of europe, such a situation unfolded during the first world war, such a situation was repeated during the Second World War, and if we look at today, we see very similar political, military, economic and other processes. And uh, the role of uh museum of uh wars uh today it is uh it is very important and today we we can say that the museum is fully functioning, and the Museum Receives visitors, and our exhibition work receives rave reviews not only from ukrainian visitors , this year we received the museum oscar a month ago, where on behalf of the team, on may 10, i received the highest museum award in europe in london oce i would like us to look at this overall process of designation , i repeat again, as a combination of many , many events and a combination of many factors to rename it to the National Museum of the war of independence yes such a concept is, accordingly, i understand that there should be monuments not only of the soviet, but actually of the struggle against the soviet union, so the struggle for independence and, in particular, the current war that russia has unleashed against ukraine, what else will there be , actually, is there already in this museum what is related to the period after the installation of all these soviet monuments, monuments, parts of the elements well, i want to say that i have already commented on this that the chronological framework will definitely be expanded, and this one goes from the first world war, including the Second World War the war and the war that continues today is the second question, well, the second component of this question, even before the stage of the full scale invasion, we taught and shouted in our work from other chronological periods , in particular, the war in our museum was probably met by all of ukraine the International Exhibition is a ukrainianamerican exhibition dedicated to the military history of such a narrow, specific but very interesting section as the history of uniforms and was called vona for the will of ukraine in a very significant and symbolic way on the eve of the russian aggression and as we know, the Ukrainian Military force was revived on the eve of the first world war, and precisely the focus of our attention at this exhibition was devoted to this very topic, a unit of the Ukrainian Military force during the first world war. That is, we are already in our practical e Museum Activity covers much wider periods than they were declared. Within the framework of the old name, for example, from the first days of the russianukrainian war, which has been going on for nine years. We have held many exhibitions dedicated to the donetsk airport. It means other uhuh important important events, moreover uhuh, another exhibition that met this war is the ukrainian east exhibition unfolded in the entrance hall. That is, it is also already uhuh activity that went beyond the uhuh beyond the scope of the Second World War, the obvious time relentless yury savchuk, historian, generator of the National Museum of the history of ukraine, was with us in the Second World War, i say goodbye to you until tomorrow, have a peaceful and calm evening, then the air continues the news with anna eva melnyk, greetings, colleagues , thank you for your work, the Editorial Office is still working news and in the final issue about this the metropolitan of the moscow patriarchate was sentenced to 5 years polish Border Guards call to strengthen the border due to the provocations of belarus and the explosion in the turkish port what is known at the