This is generally a question of how the majority of ukraine and the majority of ukrainians feel about heritage of the soviet union of the ukrainian soviet socialist republic as a part of the ussr, as well as to the legacy of the historical ee in the russian empire, because it is actually 300 years and can we even demand from these people that they treat it as something foreign as for the occupation regime, i am sure that this is exactly what it was like, both foreign and occupying, so i am absolutely not talking about the fact that you should forget some russian imperial past , which you need to remember, but remember as the regime that was forcibly planted in our country who found ukrainians with his repressions, and perhaps that is why it is worth remembering this story, that is why i do not like the very idea that lets somehow , in reverse order, ukrainize these or other periods of history, these or other monuments , monuments of history, lets say that they actually are there were ukrainians, well, look, there is such a prominent aviator, sikorsky, lets call him ukrainian, because he was born in kyiv, well, again, it doesnt work like that. Because specifically, for example, sikorsky is a person from above with antiukrainian views, and to make him ukrainian, well, its absolutely impossible , just like this the sculpture of the mother family is not something that was built, it was simply called the soviet name mother family, and therefore, simply renaming it, we will suddenly remove it and it was built as a typical classic example to the soviet monumental art with the clear purpose of actually influencing the general public to show the otakus power to oppress each individual person, er, to transform it and that , that is, it carries very specific messages, and simply by renaming it or embellishing it , you simply cannot change it, it is far from the same as the renaming of settlements, that is, the population changes, the name can be changed , and it is obvious that from the fact that the settlement was given this somehow russian or uh comedic name, it did not become a russian uh in my discussions, i often used to have my own deuce the leo tolstoy metro station. I renamed it, which was necessary relatively , and the vulvatovsky metro station does not need to be forced, because there really was nothing there except the name two tolstoy, but here is the sculpture rodina matcha. So, is it sovietskaya, and the renaming itself is by reflashing and you simply wont change p volodymyr, now the viewers are writing their own argument, for example , that the dismantling should have been done a long time ago, but not during the war, and that you can imagine how much the dismantling will cost the family and relatives mother in comparison that she simply replaced one coat of arms with another, what will she say, i absolutely do not insist on dismantling, that is, how could i consider the option of simply removing the soviet coat of arms, who will say that a nice decoration would be the owners hole on them and the soviet mushroom, but as if from they deny that it can be toilets, the monument itself, given the loss of some necessary physical properties, but for me, well, the most projective i am now actually this decision when it remains. It is absolutely a sculpture and actions in what way they try to pretend that since it did not become ukrainian to invent a story about the fact that it supposedly always looked at the east as a threat, now good luck to the story that it supposedly reflects some ancient ukrainian culture has roots and can be seen in the morning, someone has even seen it spread on social networks pictures of allegedly kyivan intelligentsia 80 i knew for years that she personifies three well, excuse me, thats a rant, that is , you cant rewrite history so much in fact , but i, for example, well, i dont hide my position, im an extreme opponent of this very the idea of pasting tridents on top of soviet symbols and in my opinion, this simply blurs the very National Identification because in this case it is very difficult to understand where the main ukrainian begins and ends and begins, for example, russian or soviet imperial and so on, but on the other hand, if this is a desire after all ukrainize, soviet , russian, asian , i dont know which one you want, the totalitarian past exists, it is deep, it is present. In my opinion, it exists, well, if its not together, then its already a notsoliterary word , its a freebie. That is, instead of going through some serious process of creating something , something new will slip away. Lets color it up a little and assume now that its all ukrainian. I still more because i can say with a presentation that now this is this column that stands in the center of poltava, for example, he said that it is actually dedicated to the victory of mazepa or with ivan mazepa, not peter i. Therefore, it prompts some very simple and wrong decisions. By the way, it reminds me of simple solutions, just p volodymyr, you join us with a phone, i will try to write to you, and i will show our viewers two monuments such obelisks that are in lviv oblast and frankiv oblast, one of them is in lviv oblast, frankiv oblast, they are all dedicated to the Second World War and there is one monument to the great patriotic war on the ninth. Thats how it was taken and repainted there. Such a soldier , a liberator of the Second World War, sits in kerosene boots and a helmet, and they took him and in the ukrainian pixel painted a flag and ukrainian flag was attached, and the second one was written glory of the armed forces under it, and the second monument is another woman like that, she is also huge, so fat, and her behind her , most likely, the flag used to be red, but now it has been reshaped blue yellow er and the colors of the war, and the war here began as in soviet textbooks in 1941, ended in 1945, and so on. She is blue and yellow , glory to ukraine is written, and this woman er is standing, and she is wearing a white dress with such embroidery elements, thats all its usually drawn, its drawn somewhere the same opera as this mother family, what they want to turn ukraine into, mother absolutely, thats what im saying, that it can launch a dangerous president instead of us really somehow reopening our past , deciding what this new one you need, what you dont need well, lets just start paint it under the flag, thinking that now it needs to look like this, but you know, volodymyr, that the residents of those communities where the monuments are located, who agreed with such a decision, and so on, ukrainianize them, are watching us now monuments to the totalitarian and occupation regime. Simply speaking, if you conventionally put on the uniform of a ukrainian soldier of the armed forces , now a monument to a soldier who came and occupied this territory here, galicia , in particular, who then went on and raped all the women on the way to berlin. Are you actually tarnishing the memory of our soldiers now if you dress up our heroes in these robes, so now our heroes are actually a monument to this rapist. Glory to the armed forces of ukraine, what is in your head or, for example, this villager . In the worst case, they are collaborators with the occupation regime, in the worst case, they are some people who were brought from russia. Well, we are now talking about the franconian region, we are now talking about the lviv region, we are not even talking about kharkiv there, i dont know there , i dont know zaporizhzhia. Where is the complex history of 300 years of interaction with by the russians, i absolutely agree with you. What exactly is this and the handing out of the ukrainian one . That is, it is the same. What is the difference . We will present it differently, but you. Here are our viewers. At least those who comment, it is clear that there are those who do not comment yet and may have another question, here is the last question. We are simply talking about the fact that a political nation is being formed now, but it must be ukrainiancentric, that is , ukrainiancentricity and ukraine, and in the center , what kind of ukraine is this can this ukraine be both european and asian and soviet and, relatively speaking, capitalist and Ukrainian National and russian . The approach will be tinted a little, lets make it blueyellow, and it will suddenly become ukrainian. Ukrainian ssr, which was called ukraine, has collapsed. It is not possible to have such a country , only ukrainian ukraine can survive, but what is happening now, you know. Well, water is from my one of the favorite bands in ukraine is the gadyukin brothers, there is a very good song called the red firm, but i want to include this red firm that was repainted to this yellow in order to comment on what is unfortunately happening in ukraine and is being sold as you can see, if the nominal victory is for those viewers who do not understand the words of fira, because i know that they do not understand, uh, this is fira listen to it, its a cool song, a cool word , google it, and if you dont google it, ill help , its a trick. That is, its this trailer that clings to horses and firman is sitting on the air, he is chasing her. I thank volodymyr for the conversation. Thank you for the explanation. People s deputy of ukraine volodymyra vyatrovych was with us and we talked about whether it is possible to ukrainize the soviet monument to the mothers family and not only her, but also other monuments. Yatniks that is interesting that a fullscale invasion began in various countries that were at one time occupied by the soviet union, such a family took place with the mother of the pjsc yes, yes, you can say that the familymother arepad and ot and ee latvia, lithuania , they got rid of them, too, there were such things , twigs were thrown, they were ruled they try to remind one simple thing that of all the Supreme Councils of the ussr of various republics, of 15 republics including the Russian Federation , only one Supreme Council remained this is the Verkhovna Rada. Well, really. That is, everyone renamed some national names, even the russians there and so on, or they came up with their own as belarusians, because they had absolutely no statehood, well, we have the Verkhovna Rada , and this is also strange, because in our country, according to hrushevskys project, it should have been called soin. Now lets talk about our relations with poland, which are deteriorating for some reason. Myroslav the czech, a polish politician, is joining us. Lets try to figure out why relations with poland are worsening. Is it related to the elections or something . But today we have another fresh reason for this. The adviser to the head of the president s Office Mykhailo Podolyak gave an interview and there he said the following now and you will listen and our viewers will listen and p myroslava can you help us interpret these words what she meant Mykhailo Podolyak now we have everything open, i will say its just against what background is this all happening . Its happening against the background of some kind of real aggravation of relations or deterioration. Did it serve as a trigger like this, the statement of a notsoinfluential person, just someone behind the apparatus and in poland, about what ukraine would have to be more grateful again for polands help, it was immediately commented on at the highest level in ukraine, there was a challenge to the carpet of the polish ambassador in kyiv, and then the ukrainian elephant in warsaw exchanged some absolutely unfriendly gestures, and then this phrase added fuel to the fire, i dont know if it can she is not sincere but uh, is she timely , yes, we have some problems with the sound of the word Mykhailo Podolyak said that i will narrate , duplicate Mykhailo Podolyak uh, he said that when the war between ukraine and poland ends will compete, why does Mykhailo Podolyak think so . And whether these words of his are timely, it is possible and they will also compete someday, in principle, reasonable competition is good, but now, when the war is going on in ukraine and when this war is not over yet, when we receive such crazy help from poland mr. Miroslava, mr. Poduroko, you should have read president zelenskys statement about this , who said that precisely political moments are being sought to destroy what is the main thing in relations between ukraine and russia, that is, that both countries are europes shield against russian aggression, and president zelenskyi called for this in order to reduce the level of words, statements and gestures that affect the negative perception of relations between ukraine and ukraine, and it would be better for the stream to simply quote and study the words of its own president and its own boss. Then there would be fewer problems with his statements. They will compete, well, they will compete, of course, on the free market in the European Union and under the influence of the agreement on the World Trade Organization in competition is a normal phenomenon, that is, nothing he didnt say that, on the contrary, he was also part of his words. It was that now our relations are close, and after the end of the war , we will compete, well, less, less, spread the hunting need, what will it be . And now nurture these relations and influence that there are less emotions in them and there are fewer escalations to be word for word instead, it takes into account different interests and including the fact that there is an Election Campaign in poland, a very tough company , it will continue here for two more months, the degree of emotions, well, extremely high, respectively, and statements are made, that is, i think that the ukrainian side should take this into account and not add gasoline to the fire that is already burning like this. Is there already any reaction to these words . I grew up, left ukrainians from mishka, they took help from us in general, but a for a, in fact , they didnt change anything, they werent friendly, and why should poland help ukraine , well, who needs it . I dont know, i dont understand it , ukraine really looks so ungrateful should there be gratitude, there should be in the end no, i really dont like gratitude to myself , well, i really believe that this is the words of another adviser to the polish president , or there is already a deputy minister from his office who said that ukraine should have been grateful for this help and not to make claims regarding the extension of the embargo on visas for the import of ukrainian Agricultural Products , well, that is, he once again spoke about specific matters, that is , he tried to make ukraine ungrateful and instead promote his polish economic interests well, it does not work out well when you are engaged in morality, i look at morality. Well, dont try to make money at the same time, well, because it just puts you in a very uncomfortable position, and it must be said that on this statement, sometimes hunting, precisely to this need for gratitude, reacted very harshly, very harshly, yatsyk is already potovich this is the former minister of Foreign Affairs of poland, he is in the government of law and justice, he resigned in the 20th year, which he called such a policy a policy of gene and chic, well, that is, politically, these are political definitions, but he said when a neighboring country is bleeding and fighting for security , in the same way, in poland, you cant even use the concept of gratitude or the lack of gratitude, because its simply unacceptable. Especially since its about specific interests here, in the case of importing ukrainian reproduction, its easy. Good, but any in any way, there are simply the interests of some polish farmers who, in the end, were not so badly affected by the import of ukrainian Agricultural Products as they simply listed their products on facebook in the past year, but that grain prices will rise. And they are not rising, and this is where these problems appeared. I assume that it is primarily the electorate on which pis is counting, or can you say that . Until recently, there was a lot of speculation on this topic, which was heard from the opposition and outside the parliamentary and parliamentary opposition , it must be said that it raised the old woman, because it was equal to the old woman, in fact, she tried to is well, to debunk the fakes that were being spread about the fact that a huge amount of ukrainian honey was imported to poland, and so on, that it all turned out to be untrue, and the minister of agriculture , robert karlsp, refuted it at a session of the diet. Unfortunately, he changed this position. Well, because the authorities have also changed their position, taking into account the fact that from september 15, it will be a month before the parliamentary elections, and this topic will probably be exported very much. Unfortunately, it will lose, despite the fact that relations between ukraine and porsche, that is, ukraine, will lose. Does not want, of course, to continue the import of Agricultural Products of four types of ukrainian grain to five countries, and these countries, and in particular poland, want to continue this debt , and here we must count on the fact that the European Commission will find some way out of this situation together with Ukraine Russia puts its own 5 kopecks into what actually shakes the relationship between ukraine and poland as it is. In the end, they did it not for the first time in the desire to boil down ukraine and poland, as soon as ukraine and poland went to meet each other , they became closer, well, i am a supporter of such and such statements that where the poles, the ukrainians are quarreling, this third one is the one who is happy. Well, it is, but russia doesnt need it. In these situations, the russians were not needed. It sits on the sidelines, watches and comments, and shows. And in the match, you have cooperation between all over ukraine, what kind of allies they are and so on shows the poles how bad the ukrainians are and the ukrainians what the bad poles are. Thats all she does in return. This is what i want to say is the crisis of this statement. The interests of poland and ukraine, thats all. Well, that is the third one there is no need, because we ourselves will handle this task in quotation marks, i will say that there are less than 2 minutes left, what was written by mr. Cheputowych, actually the predecessor and current cabinet of the ministry of Foreign Affairs of poland. It was very noble and i think very good, but he was also very strongly criticized by the current head of the ministry of Foreign Affairs and wrongful rights, and actually what i want to say is whether , in particular, for example, the issue of the volyn events of the 40s of the last century can become the subject of future support for poland , for example, or not support, on the contrary, for poland there of the european integration process of ukraine, is this considered as such an option in principle and does the poles understand that it is very difficult for us to deal with the formation that it was a genocide of the poles simply because ukraine did not exist as a state and there were no state institutions, how can to be genocide is something that there is no state, mr. Andriy, you have a minute left to explain the long historical discussions and disputes, well, in the statement of the minister of Foreign Affairs of yablonsky , there was such a seventh point, i listed 7 points, in fact, whose visas are really the last two points are important, one is the problem of conditional ukrainian grain or the import of ukrainian Agricultural Products to poland, the seventh point is the problem of volhynia well , lets say the confrontation of the polishukrainian confrontation of the 40s. Historical events terminological legal terms that are used at the same time i want to say that the events of the 1940s will not become an obstacle to ukraines membership in the European Union thank you for your answer thank you because you talked with us a little about ukrainianpolish relations. Thank you, our viewers, for being with us. Thank you for commenting so fiercely, especially the last hour. We will see you tomorrow at 7 10. Stay tuned. It will be interesting. 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