Stupidity. Yes so if there is already colonization , then all the countries of africa are already beginning to decommunize. Then all the countries of africa are beginning to be different at the same time. Very, very similar coups of this or that were very popular at one time. Sergeant coups in europe were always black, colonels, generals, well, in portugals captains, at least captain adam, sergeants, that is, here too opa suda, shoot someone you cant call me either, im going to start fighting a nigga, you have to shoot, no, you cant shoot me , i will fight and seize power , this is this how can you characterize this fashion for exactly this kind of coup, in fact, this fashion has been going on since the 20th year. That is, everything started there from mali, and now it seems to me to be the fourth coup taking place in the sakhalin region, because there was no , even more, because there were two in mali, there were two burkina faso was guinea. Now we see, well, in sudan , this failed coup, and now we see it in chad, sorry, not in the chat. The power of the generals when they also want to gain some profits for themselves, also gain access to resources , that is, to preserve lets say preserve the remnants of their power preserve the remnants of their power preserve the remnants of their influence listen and this happens in africa, maybe not in the tsechel region can you tell me at least that there are no such political forces, that means generals, civilians, noncivilians, and others, what do they think . Lets somehow make it so that people in my country live at least two or three percent better than last year. All the coups are exclusively and yes, i dont have enough money, i take power, i steal money with pockets full of money, i transfer money to european banks and i live well for myself. Are you a general or a civilian . Country it is literally on the fingers of one hand that you can list the countries that, well, more or less went in this way, and the same nigerian leader. He is exactly, well , at least that is how europeans characterized him, that he seemed to want to make gradual democratization, gradual steps towards infrastructural restructuring of europeanization well, in the good sense of this word and so on or Something Like that in africa is not easy we just have to wait another 100200 years, what to wait until such people appear, in fact, you cant say that africa is something so homogeneous and homogeneous africa is all different, there are countries that are developing better in which the economy is gradually Getting Better and, accordingly, where well, there are usually civilians in power, not the military. The same or a pair. Is botswana a country like tanzania . Well, there are problems with human rights there, but in the same way. That is, these are countries where there is Progressive Development , usually after a coup, it is unlikely that anything can be very good in such cases. There are literally units, for sure, if there is one, because after a coup, what we see in recent years is usually a coup after a coup , that is, it happened in mali in the 20th year, there was a coup in the 21st , there was a coup within a coup. To share power among themselves and when an illegitimate illegitimate leader comes to power in the country, that is, it is either a junta or somehow there are other methods, then, accordingly , western countries stop cooperating, they stop providing assistance, and we see the same thing now, in particular, in nigeria, when france and the United States. It seems to me that the netherlands has also announced the suspension of its ee aid programs for these countries and, accordingly, the countries are poor if their investments and aid are cut, they have nothing to develop from , that is, it is only getting worse, it is worsening the situation only for the population. Thank you very much marta oleinyk will investigate a bit. An african woman was with us. Thank you very much. And we will be back for 10 minutes. Well , first, more precisely, on advertising, and we will also have a story about the moscow patriarchate, a discussion different opinions continue, well, in fact, i think that they are not so different, the majority of opinions that something must be done to narrow the influence of this fifth column under the guise of the church of the moscow patriarchate on ukrainian realities , and there will be a fiveminute story about this, and then an advertisement 34 5 minutes, and then september again, at the beginning of a fullscale invasion , there are discussions about the need for a law that will limit the activity of churches in ukraine that are governed by russia from the spring of 2023, the country is swayed by clashes around the temples in the uoc mp , land is taken, conflicts continue and transitions to the Orthodox Church, however, in some cases, such processes take place outside the law, as projects that could normalize the situation have not yet been passed. We want to dismantle the structures of the moscow patriarchate, but we do not want to forbid believers to believe, practice their religion, gather with others in order to practice this religion, everything that ukraine has taken on international law, taught the cabinet of ministers to propose to the Verkhovna Rada to ban the activities of the Ukrainian Orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate in ukraine and also initiated an inspection the legality of the stay of the Ukrainian Orthodox church of ukraine in the kyivpechersk lavra, president Volodymyr Zelenskyi told about this on the same day in his evening address to ukrainians , but since then, no significant changes have taken place , unfortunately, even russian terror and a fullscale war did not convince some activists that it is worth overcoming the temptation of evil what we must create such conditions when any actors dependent on the aggressor state will have no opportunity to manipulate ukrainians and weaken ukraine from within. 11 draft laws have been registered in the Verkhovna Rada, which in in one way or another relate to the uoc mp, the main two of them are number 8221, the initiators of which are the four people s deputies indicated on the councils website, and number 8371, which was submitted to the council by the prime minister, there is also an alternative pregovernment number 83711 experts also allow the creation of a joint project which will contain the provisions of both documents according to the law of the project number 8221 in ukraine there must be one Orthodox Church and such changes will not give the moscow patriarchate the opportunity to manipulate the statute, it also provides for the early termination of all property of deeds concluded between residents of ukraine and a prohibited foreign religious organization and the peculiarities of naming religious organizations, in particular the use of the word orthodox, the whole problem lies in the fact that the law that we initiated 82 21 on the prohibition of the activities of the Russian Church in ukraine has not yet been adopted. The government draft does not ban the Russian Church in ukraine, but rather drags out this process of procrastination for many, many years. In particular, the document provides for a ban on the activity of religious organizations in ukraine related to russia, the activity of the uoc mp cannot be stopped if they prove its connection with the russian Orthodox Church, however, the state service for ethnopolitics and freedom of conscience must first establish that a certain religious the organization has its center in russia, then the Service Issues an order to correct this situation, and if this does not happen, then the service must file a lawsuit in court , which must already decide on the ban alternative 8,3711 offers practically the same thing with the key difference, it does not provide for issuing a prescription when our draft laws were evaluated in the world, including by our enemies, so they were forced to conclude that only this way is effective and that will stop the activities of the organization whose centers are located in a country that carries out aggression against ukraine, the lawyer, however, emphasizes that the government draft law contains a number of shortcomings , as it proposes a procedure that stretches the solution of the issue for years, primarily due to a large number of interim legal decisions of the type of prescription or decisions related to expertise that are the subject of an independent court appeal is provided for by this draft law, it is not carried out in ukraine , we do not have accredited specialists, we do not have a methodology, and it is not even mentioned among all ee types of expertise that conducted by the ministry of justice of ukraine , that is, in our case, it actually turns out that the court must conduct an examination, which does not exist, experts note that the struggle with Russian Churches does not end immediately after the adoption of any initiative the fact is that for many years the minds of the faithful have been poisoned by russian narratives in such churches and it is almost impossible to immediately get rid of such influence, the situation with attempts to open a religious foundation against ukraine is certainly not resolved only by legalistic such a key, however, many believers some clergymen, in particular, on july 23, the priests of the Orthodox Church of the moscow patriarchate turned to metropolitan onuphrius and called to immediately and permanently sever ties with the russian Orthodox Church in an open letter, the clergy calls russias aggression against ukraine satanic and condemns the support of the war by the head of the russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Kirill , the request letter was published after an enemy rocket attack on the transfiguration cathedral in odesa. 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Watch the economy news project with andriy yanitsky on weekdays at 8 10 for espresso and again. Good health. We have 15 minutes left to to speak with Oleksandr Pavlichenko, executive director of the Ukrainian Helsinki Union for human rights. Good health, mr. Oleksandr. Thank you for finding time for us, and i have a very difficult time with you. I think the question is that we are talking today about a huge number of violations of human rights on the part of the Russian Federation and children. And just war crimes and humanitarian crimes and such and collaboration and so on and so on and so on and there are a lot of such and the question arises whether ukraine has a resource at all when we say that we have opened 90,000 criminal cases and we are so happy. But here are 70 700,000 children deported from ukraine, who will deal with this, mr. Oleksandr, do we have a sufficient number of prosecutors, lawyers , judges, investigators, thats some millions of people, we need just to normalize this part of life. And what do you say to this, mr. Oleksandr, look first of all, lets talk about the numbers and consider how much they are such that they can be, lets say , worked out , and that they can be operated on. E must work and prosecutors can be Law Enforcement officers from other ee agencies , the Security Service of ukraine, the National Police, other estructures and units, and accordingly, ee , how can all this be investigated, when it comes to what result, and whether all those who are considered criminals suspects or such that even the defendant may be brought to justice by the investigation, because there are also questions and problems with this, and from the number of criminal cases under article 438, in particular , this is a violation of the laws and customs of the introduction of war, part of those who were convicted from the beginning of the largescale invasion, that is, from last february 24 , 2022, she was convicted, but they were transferred as an Exchange Fund to russia and in fact are there in a different regime and the usual punishments do not take place here, too questions about the justice of the process and the judiciary, now about the figures regarding these cities of thousands of children, well, you cant say that they are all deported, here we have to talk about who is forcibly deported, with coercion , physical, psychological, financial, other, who was moved together with parents who left the territory of the donetsk luhansk regions before the start of a largescale war, it was actually in january 2022, and a huge number of people, including children , left at that time, and they appear as those who were moved to russian regions or to the crimea from that time and they are included in this number of 700,000 , approximately this number is larger there, it seems there were 740,000 as far as i remember, but it is not so important , russia believes that it did not deport them, but carried out such an evacuation or baptized them in herself and at the same time she begins to process them ideologically and educates in her er and educational ideological space that in fact er is a violation of er and constitutes a fact of a war crime against children who were taken out of ukrainian territory. That is, we are now talking about this this page and another the second part of your question is whether ukraine today, with its resources of lawyers, judges and prosecutors , can declare that it investigates and will bring to justice in all these masses of criminal cases, this is really problematic and ukraine must first of all demonstrate a quality example conduct of judicial investigation and pretrial prosecution in the same way and accordingly use and create standards that will actually be equal to the standards of proof in the International Criminal court where the same is carried out consideration of ukrainian cases can you imagine i am now entering such a shaky road on a shaky road, i am not legal, there is nothing in common , but what i have in my head is this and i simply do not know if it is possible to do it there in two or three years , it is simple the transition to saxon law where where can you say according to the principle that we according to the example of one case we can in some way condemn or maybe even not condemn the assistant the president will come it is not right when we say that you see there was such a case and all cases similar to this we lets say well, then follow this one in principle, and these are also guilty or not guilty depending on how that particular court decided , otherwise it is hard for me to imagine these tens of thousands. Hmm, well, you just talked about it, and i cant quote you. Hmmm, you can go to the president s law. No , you cant go to precedent law. We have a criminal process, which is determined by the criminal procedural code. Code and criminal procedural and other ee developed and judicial decisions, including ours is not ee lets say that the unprecedented system is not anglosaxon as defined in our country from continental and accordingly we are in it we work in it ee here perhaps it should be said there are several things to optimize this whole process. The first one is from the large number of cases mentioned earlier. There are about 100,000 of them. Most of them are actually property crimes. In fact, it is the destruction of civil infrastructure. Accordingly, the destruction or some kind of destruction causing damage to apartments, houses, other premises, or other types of real estate, etc. This large amount should be , so to speak, separately considered as a main case, and accordingly, i do not think that there will be many people who can be declared in there are such criminals, war criminals in relation to this case, because there were shellings, in fact, from different places in different places, and to establish the number of criminals involved in each particular shelling and direct connection with you act commands this is a chain of commands to determine who pressed the button, who half steered that plane, and then loaded it, and accordingly, they are the direct perpetrators of the crime committed that led to the destruction of this building, this apartment, and the death of these specific people in relation to others types of crimes, i think that you should be separate in front of those that relate to the attempt on the life and health of people, in front of this genderbased violence, that is , sexual crimes that were also present and they are the least investigated and the least patterns in the course of this war, and in fact, this is such a bitter page that will be given as a sign of years in ukraine no. So, lets talk about the fact that ukraine has faced the problem of a huge number of cases that need to be investigated. Declares his readiness to properly conduct a pretrial investigation Andriy Kostin just declared that 95 of all registered crimes must be followed up at the national level, for this all resources must be allocated and, accordingly, cooperation with International Organizations and, accordingly, here is the International Criminal court, whose representative, in addition to hunt, was just on the screen, accordingly, the center, which was created to investigate the collection of evidence and the investigation of the crime of aggression. Works in a system that is actually overflowing with the International Justice system and it is trying to keep up with its resources for investigations into those crimes that are currently available for the investigation, alexander, look at two clarifying questions. When you say that there is Little Research on sexual crimes, it is because women are victims, lets say more broadly, not only women simply do not contact Law Enforcement agencies, well, its a shame. Its obvious, well, its such a worldwide phenomenon, nothing new here. I understand, or does themis simply not have time to turn her er her eyes in that direction in the direction of these sexual crimes, some themis is working very actively Law Enforcement agencies and the Prosecutors Office and the National Police have created special even mobile groups in order to detect such crimes where those doctors, psychologists and police work who , according to gender, can conduct surveys, conversations, uh, in fact, the problem is that this crime is well, the most sigmatized, and accordingly they understand that uh e. G. To prosecute a specific perpetrator will be almost impossible or impossible victims do not agree to recognize themselves as victims and accordingly avoid going through the criminal prosecution procedure because it is an additional burden these are reputational risks, this is repeated trauma and , in addition, possible stigmatization, this all happened in the same way in euroafrican countries, where were they . Well, if you take rolanda there, for example, sexual crimes were generally a tool of violence against the local population levels when uhuh that one was destroyed here by everyone, including inflicting on her such crimes, sexual fixation of the former orthodox as well, especially it was uhuh muslim cars albanians uhuh who were also subjected to sexual on the corner respectively it was one of such forms of politics to force them to leave these territories. That is, this is such a genocidal approach, we still have a problem. The same is stigmatization. But no one will declare that he was a victim of Sexual Violence , thats if it is. They write that there are almost no cases of forced adoption of ukrainian children in russia, as far as we can believe this, and especially after no court has spoken about putins wife and this one who takes care of children in the Russian Federation. Yes maria lviv, well, on march 17, an arrest warrant was passed for putin in lviv belova, but it related to a slightly different aspect, it was related to forced deportation and a change of nationality, it was actually signed, this question is very important, is it really a restoration, so see about the adoption situation is as follows in cases of elimination, not so many children are transferred to foster families and they are not for adoption, that is , there is no process of changing personal data , they are, so to speak, in the conditions of temporary custody, and most of them are still in these foster families and not transferred on the basis of that, we can talk about the fact that the process itself is a nail, it is so largescale thank you very much, mr. Oleksandr thank you very much Oleksandr Pavlichenko executive director the Ukrainian Helsinki Union for human rights talked about the rights of the ukrainian people, now there will be