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Now we will talk with gennady khazan, an aviation expert and the president of the association of private pilots and aircraft owners. Glory to ukraine on the suspicion of five officials of the state Emergency Service, due to whose actions on january 18, 2018, the leadership of the ministry of internal affairs died in a plane crash, the investigation established that the officials committed flagrant violations of the rules of Traffic Safety and operation of air transport, which led to the death of people in the dbr they say that the aircraft did not have permission documents for this flight. The crew did not have permission to fly in difficult weather conditions. The matter is extremely serious. They have already issued a detention order, so the head of the corresponding direction of the state Emergency Service will be spend two months in a Pretrial Detention Center and so on. And so on. Lets start analyzing this story with you. What do you have, so to speak, that caused your greatest emotions . You know, any aviation event causes emotions because , unfortunately, people die. The crew died in this case. The crew always wanted to fly, the people who were on board died, unfortunately, the people who were on the ground died. This is, first of all, a great tragedy. Regarding the other thing, i want to draw attention to the fact that in this case, the people of the soviet union forget that aviation is very seriously. This is very serious. The commander of the aircraft has a very serious responsibility. The person who makes the decision on the departure. And that aviation is not a joke because an aircraft is a complex, very complex Engineering Design that requires serious and professional engineers. Er, it relates to it, in particular, preparation on the ground, maintenance, maintenance, preparation for flight, crew training, you know how we used to joke that if an aircraft consists of 100,000,500 elements of some mechanism, bolts, nuts, etc. , then each of those elements affect the safety of flights and this is not a joke, unfortunately, we now have such an unfortunate example of an aviation event, what is it called , in which people died, so i will repeat once again that the decisions on the flight were made this is a very serious and the responsible thing. And how did the youth happen so that the aircraft did not have the right , it did not have the permits. Perhaps you know of other similar incidents when, in fact, they close their eyes. Did they not see something somewhere, so i understand the reasons. There may be different when the planes actually who cant fly and take off because, as they say, any flight, any, any, uh, flight, it can always be a risk and its always very serious. Well, uh, you know, its very serious. When there is flight weather, because sometimes they joke about what kind of weather you have, what kind of weather it is, good or bad, and the weather can be good or bad, or flying and nonflying, because, well, who from what position analyzes such a meteorological phenomenon or preparation for a specific departure in relation to a situation that a and in this case, i was formed when i read the results of this investigation, it was written that the aircraft was carrying out, that is, it was on duty to perform completely different tasks, and here , you know, there is such a thin line. The crew is flying because the minister has serious tasks, this task must be completed and someone could most likely or most likely tell the crew that the guys need to fly and this is where the guys need to fly could probably affect the acceptance the decision of the aircraft commander who made the decision to take off. I want to note that, unfortunately, postsoviet issues still remain in ukraine, such that if the crew survived, then the investigation plus or minus is clear, if the crew died, then the crew is always to blame, this is a shameful postsoviet situation and you know the crew. If he made a mistake, he made a mistake, he paid the highest price for it, he paid the price with his own life, and we all have to understand this and know that the research of this aviation event will show who it was. There was no mistake, and that everything, but it is probably not necessary to dump the weighted into the terrace about what could have been incredible, there could have been pressure on the crew about the fact that this flight should be carried out, so if for the flights of such serious and governmental delegations, thats all well, most likely, such flights should be carried out special crew who have special powers then and among other things have certain other meteorological minimums because what is stated in your documents did not have the right to fly, then most likely, in my opinion , the idea is a conversation about the metrological minimum of the commander of the aircraft which i had it regarding the performance of visual flights because if the metrological conditions were there and you showed an excerpt that was quite serious fog could e, then he should have performed a policy or visa according to the rules of visual flights or according to the rules of instrument flights, this is also an understandable thing and well, i think that the commission will investigate or investigated according to which rules the flight was actually carried out and what meteorological minimum was the commander of the aircraft who made the decision for this flight because i will repeat myself in the third that a decision im sorry, there is a decision about a specific politician, who should make the final decision of the crew commander or should he receive one or another signature. I dont know if there is some kind of verbal permission from the chiefs of the same state Emergency Service. Well, when there is such a controversial situation, well, its accepted the decision to fly always rests with the commander of the aircraft, it is his decision , but i say right away that uh, we have an unfortunate experience. The crew, as they called the plane number one of the polish president , which was indicated that a representative entered the cockpit the ministry of defense is there, and most likely, it was there in the back that they were talking to the crew commanders, that is, they asked the crew commanders to land the plane, and based on the fact that it was a government delegation in relation to poland, and the commander, after all, uh, when they dared to put up the terrace, well, we will sit down or we refuse boarding, we fly back, we have to sit down as soon as possible. But if we talk about that case , i have the fact that i shared my personal opinion with my polish colleagues that in what way did the russians most likely score well what kind of crew and plane, what kind of crew did they have such experience in speaking ukrainian . And for this there is a commission and it should investigate all the details of everything that would happen in the flight regarding the detention or the handing over of the suspicion, these are the actions of the commission, the results of the actions of the commission will be a court and people have to prove their innocence in court, as we are a legal state, that they are not guilty, everything before that is a very serious matter, because in this particular situation, with the data that we have now, we understand that uh, interview those who were participants, then we cant is there already . The possibility to get to 100 of how everything was or is it possible to simply simulate everything and get to the truth, but actually it is about such a hundred percent possibility or will there always be this percentage of uncertainty from experience from vast experience when you conduct various studies of aviation events , a huge number of facts are taken of information is raised and in the end, well, serious information plates of information are learned, people do the analysis and take out although there is also such a one well, the pilots are laughing that if, uh , the results would be read to a living pilot, uh Research Commission why he died, they would all laugh it was like that, it was like that, well, the anecdote was like that, but still, returning to this event, it will most likely be a study of all the elements of this flight regarding the flawless work of aviation equipment, regarding the work of the crew and mm and it will be clear who made which decision. Did the crew make a decision, was there pressure on him, there was no pressure , thats all the evidence, thats all the evidence, because if there was pressure on the crew, its a completely different pair of boots, you understand. If theres no pressure, then its completely different, but mostly from the experience of such things. I think that the commission, er, if everything is correct, everything will be done without various, you know, such discs on the outside. What should be the decision of the commission or otherwise . On that day, the commission will find out. One more short question, i just cant help but ask whether private pilots are participating now or owners of private planes of small, uh , aircraft in the war there, or somehow they can be involved or will be involved, or do we have such a practice, uh i will answer you shortly because of the fog of war, i will not answer your question. 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To move ships with grain wherever we deem necessary and we are not going to ask permission from anyone. Defense express company glory to ukraine, mr. Valery, to the heroes, a word of good day, good day studio, dear tv viewers , this is undoubtedly the top news and the greatest joy of the day for us. Sea and when we were watching this video, some videos were with comments and it was very quiet to hear what is the truth in the background when people comment who shot this video commented that it is difficult to transport it obviously because when somewhere there any sharper movements immediately tilts this miner very much to the side. Have you already analyzed and monitored the power of the blows and what damage could have occurred to this ship and to this vehicle and whether it will be suitable for any work before swimming . Well, there is no more the secret is a message in which we will return to the conversation with mr. Valery in a moment, meanwhile there is information from poland, a spy from the Russian Network was detained there on august 1, a few days ago , a 39yearold citizen of belarus who previously worked in moscow in poland he was spying objects of critical infrastructure, in particular, military territories and seaport objects, and he had the task of conducting propaganda activities for all this, he received a certain reward. So, a few days ago , employees of the internal Security Agency of poland detained him, they suspect him of espionage activities, and we will monitor how e events will unfold, the prosecutor appealed to the court with a request to apply a preventive measure for the suspect in the form of temporary arrest and fully agreed with the arguments of the prosecution ordered to take the suspect under temporary arrest returned to us military expert director of Information Consulting development at the defense express agency mr. Valery to continue at the most interesting place put him in touch a little bit but still not lets say there is information that precisely thanks to the joint operation that was carried out by these elements of our security and defense, another Amphibious Landing ship of the occupiers was hit, and at the same time, as noted, it was hit by a ukrainian by a longrange kamikaze boat that is equipped with an ee part for hitting ee somewhere in the windows of olentsi 450 kg of explosives e so ee so you see the enemies are shaking the antenna valery ryabikh they are not giving us a stable connection nothing valery rybyk will restore communication now but the Important News that arrived from the sbu regarding belarus is yes, and just in case , i will announce it again. So, the sbu, russia, through the wagnerites , is preparing a terrorist attack in belarus in order to draw it into the war, according to the intelligence, a provocation in the form of a terrorist attack is planned to be committed against us the moser oil refinery is being prepared by a subversive Intelligence Group of Russian Military and special agents who were sent to belarus under the guise of bagnerites. I am quoting verbatim from the sbu press service. It is important that this Russian Group should commit a provocation at the refinery by pretending to be ukrainian saboteurs. Russia plans to blame ukraine for the crime. To once again try to drag minsk into a fullscale war against our state, and we also have news from the pentagon, they say that according to their data, according to the data of their analysis intelligence , the construction of a factory for the production of shakheds in russia has already been completed by 80 . Uh, from uh, from moscow, even about that. And we actually understand that this can pose an additional threat to ukraine, because already next year they predict that the company will start working and producing its terrible products. Valery rybykh has returned to us, we continue the conversation by phone to valery please continue what we stopped talking about the huge amount of explosives and how much it could damage the ship and the line oh oh what was the name of gorsky Something Like that so it was encrypted to us in the amount of 450 kg significant damage to the frigate landing ship, and it can be predicted that in the next six months at least, and that year , it can conduct a round trip if it sails to plyve. Will allow to restore it as a part of the military mountain fleet of the occupying country, we see that the amphibious grouping of ships of the Russian Federation is decreasing , the possibilities of vova to provide logistics are decreasing and the capabilities of the naval forces of ukraine are increasing. Well, and other components of the security and Defense Sector of ukraine. Strikes in the black sea, and currently we see that precisely the task of striking objects in the novorossiysk area took place at a distance of approximately 800 km, and this is much more than what we had at at the beginning of this, this is how aggression and concentration were taught, when we first got the opportunity to strike up to 150 km away , now the Available Group has suffered losses, and this will also be reflected in the processes of logistical supply of all the troops that are currently holding the temporarily occupied directories in the south of ukraine and precisely at this distance, the ships that are based in novorossiysk , they provided logistics for the supply of these troops through the occupied ports of mariupol and berdyansk, so we see, lets say another blow of dust defense against the enemy and to reduce its potential that the inevitable presidency until the release of all yes for half of ukraine and the restoration of the borders of ukraine in the framework of the International View thank you mr. Valery Valery Ryabykh military expert and director of development of the information and Consulting Company defense express was from we are a fresh girl from odesa , troops from a city in the south, in fact, in odesa. And regarding the fact of enrichment itself, an investigation is currently underway and criminal proceedings have already been initiated. This is how things are, this is the story, the news is now, and anna eva melnyk is already preparing to tell it, and we will be back soon. Greetings, colleagues. Thank you for your work. I will start this issue with the news, what is happening now on the front , the russians are trying to stop the offensive of the armed forces of ukraine , the east remains strategic for the enemy, the enemy believes that by striking in this direction, he will be able