Transcripts For ESPRESO 20240704

Lets look at the consequences of this attack. On the same night, the occupiers destroyed the building of the Danube Shipping Company there, the maritime terminal, which was located in izmail, in total, during the night , the air Defense Forces and the Defense Forces destroyed 23 drones against this background , belarusian helicopters are provoking poland to the war two helicopters violated the belarusianpolish border warsaw is outraged well, lukashenko says that the poles are inventing something about this and about other things we will talk for the next hour today during the hour i will have three guests our guests are participants in the russianukrainian war games firsov and oleksiy hetman and army general Mykola Malomuzh for those who are currently watching us on youtube, i suggest you take part in our survey today we ask you about whether russia and belarus will go to war against poland yes no your option vote at the end of the program, we will sum up the results of this vote, our first guest is egor firsov, because there is an old defense paramedic, sir, and mountains, and i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our air, i wish health in this country, as always , i am also glad to see you, thank you, let s start with the situation on in the east and south of ukraine, since a lot of fruit is happening inside the state and the events are being commented on, what the president is doing and what are happening in the military committees, in particular with the military , but still the most important thing is what is happening in the east and the south of ukraine troops knocked out the russians from their positions near avdiyivka, this was announced by the spokesman of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, pavlo kovalchuk. According to the spokesman, in the direction of bakhmut, the Ukrainian Military continues to conduct offensive actions south of the city of bakhmut. Well , the Defense Forces of ukraine continue to restrain the advance of Russian Troops in the directions of kupyan and lyman the mountains will fall , as far as i understand, on the Eastern Front, in particular , in the direction of bakhmut, what is currently happening in your section of the front . Well, we are in the bakhmut district in the direction of with us, you are even in horlivsk and we are right between bakhmut and avdiivka , so we just see and hear, well, we know our situation directly and see and rather hear. What is happening in the direction of bakhmut and in avdiivka means uh, the situation is as follows well, in principle the enemy continued to use and continues to use all types of weapons, especially now aviation is flying. Here they drop fabs, as a rule, they continue to drop fabs who knows where and it flies to unfortunately for the civilian population, the population suffers primarily civilians, recently about this the president s office stated, i can tell certain details that when one of the bombs was dropped on new york and three people died and they dropped it on a volunteer center that distributed it to people who remained in their frontline cities aa humanitarian and thats why you know mr. Serhiy 525 the day of the war and unfortunately, i cannot say anything new because the enemy has not changed its tactics, as the genocide continued and continues, e. E. Cluster shells, e. E. Smoothbore artillery, that is, everything is in circulation here at the front in our area there are assaults on the front, well, i cant say that there arent any. Yes, but there are significantly fewer of them than on the avdiiv and bakhmut fronts, but this does not mean that the front is quietly constantly fighting , we are constantly pouring and we are constantly intercepting, trying to intercept the tactical initiative, we do not follow the thief 24 hours a day it is at the expense of our drones, it is important for us to study the enemy when they have rotations, when bc is brought up, and so on. That is, for example, we reveal to our units their defenses, we hide their dugouts, ee, where they keep them ammunition and so on because our section of the front is the largest, probably one of the largest, it is mined, it has not changed since the 14th year ago, around here are the distances, what is it called the gray zone, all this in kent is simply mined and of course we are in this issue is difficult, but we have already learned certain tricks, we are already civilians when we became real military , so, well, i think that it is not necessary to tell certain details, and yes, but we are now doing everything to prepare our section of the front, also for offensive actions Natalya Humenyuk conductress of the United Press Center of the Defense Forces of the south says that the general behavior of the enemy is focused on regrouping, particularly in the south. Our counterbattery fight is constantly heard, our work is carried out everywhere they are trying to regain their positions, the great discord in the general ee army is connected with the fact that the ee compositions are very different units, that is, mobilized now found themselves very close to wellprepared units of the Airborne Assault type, those who are considered elite and do not want to go to the front positions, considering it to be inferior to their own selfesteem, because it should go there in fragrant meat, as they say, and after interception, we see we see and hear that the mood is exactly like this at first let the mobilization resource be fired and then we will take on the big business mr. Egor, two months have passed since it started a major counteroffensive by the armed forces of ukraine is likely that the majority of ukrainians are waiting for some quick results. Although both zaluzhny and zelenskyi once spoke about the fact that we will advance as necessary in this situation, do not expect quick results, this is not a hollywood blockbuster. What can you tell ukrainians about their expectations and reality which is on the battlefield today. Well, you know the word counterattack , a counterattack is actively used in football, and probably everyone manages to do it like in football. They ran from one side of the gate to the other metal. Very, very quickly, in a few seconds, in fact, the military strategy is much deeper than you give to someone, i have already said it many times, i will say it again that before the success of the kharkiv direction, there were probably two and a half months of preparation of the great gods and the right or counter forces battery actions or actions directed at the liquidation of command posts and so on, that is why i see that this is exactly what is happening at the front , despite the fact that it is difficult for us to bite the ground, it is difficult to cut the ground because the enemy is good at digging very deep the quality of the defensive structures in some moments even stings, they pour concrete over their defensive positions. But i can say that the command in ours, well, at a fairly professional level, they do it like a window and direct the actions of the armed forces precisely against destroying where warehouses are located, take control of ee logistics nodes, and destroy command posts, well, a battalion or brigade cannot continue to conduct combat operations if , for example, a command post of a battalion or brigade is destroyed, that is, there is no head in the unit that is why it is gradually very, very difficult with hundreds of liters of photos with a huge amount of blood, but we are gradually moving forward, believe me, i feel that somewhere in some direction there will definitely be a breakthrough, as it happened, for example , according to the kharkiv scenario, but we must be patient and we must continue to help the armed forces there with our donations, attention, and so on, and to understand that the war is ongoing, the war is not over, the war continues and is being given to us, of course , a lot of blood continues to be given to us in july , cleared, released 415 missiles in ukraine and drones among them are 265 shaheds of 54 calibers, 41 kha1 missiles and 55520 tuninghiks, four daggers, as reported by the armory of the forces of ukraine , more than 70 of these 415 missiles and drones were shot down. For what we thank the air Defense Forces, despite all the forecasts, the rockets and shaheda in russia are not completed and do not end, the endless shelling continues, and the front lines and civil infrastructure of ukraine, it is clear that russia is set on a bloody marathon and they are throwing billions of dollars there in order to build new ones factories in order to equip new productions for drones or i am ready according to you, mr. Igor, for such a long and grueling marathon of ukraine, you know there is no other choice, but as my commander says when we develop scenarios, he says that we must always proceed from the worstcase scenario in our plans. That is why we do not need to continue underestimate the enemy, for some reason we thought that they would run out of missiles, they would run out of drones, but no , they were defiantly cynical, but continued to increase production and in this matter , even this sounds strange to us, but i will tell you how it is diversion, how do i feel, uh, we even have to study and also, we should have started a long time ago to do the race of production, we have a lot of power, we have a defense industry, we have a huge number of factories of different ages , which are malysheva and so on, which are capable of producing tanks, too but they need components and if we are talking, for example, about the latest type of weapons, which are drones, we have dozens of campaigns that can produce drones of different ranges and different modifications, but there are talented young people, as a rule, who work there and assemble these drones, mostly they work for on a voluntary basis, but unfortunately their production is too small , the state must intervene to lend these companies to increase their capacity, that is, no, one company that manufactures 1,000 drones is very cool. It is very good and we will need them and we use them. Of them on the front, but we need not a thousand and not even ten thousand drones per month, we need very, very many, we need to strive for under a hundred , if we talk in numbers well, for example, fb2 is not a kamikaze, our enemy is 40,000, approximately aa per month, we use sim310, we need to prevail over the enemy, plus to the point that nothing prevents us from doing this, we have engineers who can do everything, we have a huge number of pilots who can use these drones with high quality, and we need to increase and increase production, besides, you know, there is the military room yes, there is an armed forces, there is no need to organize an engineering room as well, who are paid a lot of money to gather the best engineers throughout the country and for them to work day and night, the election of another, there are no enemies, this is how the stick exam works, we understand that they will steal a lot , we understand that a lot of their units will not use kamikaze drones because they simply do not know how to use hightech weapons, but even in this matter they outnumber us. It is very difficult to fight and this war will last for years, but we dont need it, we are not ready for it , but the state must do everything to urgently set up this production. During the school year, it will be possible to learn to fly drones in schools oksana, the minister of forestry and education says that such a course e for drone pilots will be introduced at school, and thats good, at least people will get used to flying drones, because god knows how long it will last war and who will have to fight when . Well, zelenskyi says that in the daily routine of the leadership of ukraine, he is working on creating an air shield over ukraine. Regime we are working with partners to strengthen our air shield step by step, we are adding protection, there was a separate detailed report by the head of the gur bogdanov, the occupiers will definitely feel the consequences of our work, they will seriously feel them we are preparing a number of International Events , the week will be very important for ukraine, for us, foreign policy, well, by the way, already the gur the Ukrainian Armed forces are also working on the territory of the Russian Federation, what do you think, mr. Igor, about the transfer of the war to the territory of the Russian Federation, can it significantly affect the russianukrainian war on the course of this war, or russia, since it is a large enough country in terms of territory, part of russia will not even feel this war, the war on russia, i will tell you this , i say that this is one of the few factors that can affect the course of the war exactly symmetrical answer when on our territories, especially on civilian ones, and drones arrived, missiles arrived, we also have to respond to the enemy, otherwise you understand what the philosophy is. Yes, we understand that strategically we have advantages, russia has already lost psychologically because 5002 525th day of the war so none the Regional Center was not taken, everyone saw this Second World Army in quotation marks and so on. But nevertheless, the war is going on in our territory, our infrastructure is being destroyed, drones and missiles are flying over us, precisely in our ukrainian cities, we must transfer this war to the territory of russia so that i flew along the taganrog itself. I understand that russia is a big country, but i understand that it is necessary to organize the production of our unmanned rockets in the past , so that there are enough missiles and ammunition for all their cities, so that the photoganrog rostov, st. Petersburg, moscow, and so on. And so on, these projectiles continued to fly, and this brought the civilian population to their senses so that they understood that when a rocket flew from the territory of russia , another version would also fly along them. There is no way to give the same answer as they give in order to increase our ability and provide that potential, because with the armed forces who can do it, it is obvious. As you correctly say , it is necessary to create new productions, new factories that can be uh and can produce drones and missiles as well, because we have an obligation to our partners that we do not attack the territory of the Russian Federation with their weapons and they are obviously also afraid of an escalation of the situation like you uh are you evaluating now how quickly ukraine responds to these challenges, that is, the russians have built two factories for the production of drones in our country. As you correctly say, there are also some groups of people who are engaged in this, but in such an artisanal way. There is no such mass production. What what is preventing this, you can say as a person who was in power and understands how these wheels move, i dont know what is preventing but but i will say that well, i am now on the front line, i wont allow myself to somehow deceive or not negotiate with all the drones that use my unit, for example all these drones, they are, lets say, private, volunteer, or ordinary people , there are my subscribers, friends of my subscribers, uh , different businessmen, entrepreneurs, and they finance and we buy these drones. Well, in fact, of course, its nonsense its nonsense, so dont dwell on it the state should provide why the state the state does not make it a big mystery a mystery because my life now is mostly headquarters there rock mining and i dont understand this kyivsky well im sorry that im so directly formulating kyivsky but most likely theres a back nerve i think its either propaganda or something the other created and distorted the picture. In this way, the picture was formed of two countries at first, and at the beginning of the war there was one country that opposed the aggressor. The war has already ended somewhere far away in the 14th year. As it was, you can live your life, give birth to children , make love there, work, but the war is somehow going on, and it has been directed in the wrong way, and the people may not press the people to the end. There is no question a i understand that International Partners help us, they help us, and we thank them very much. But making weed exclusively for this is, well, its actually a crime. Imagine tomorrow it happened that their citizens are also tired of war and they wont help us or Something Else happened, its not important we have to take care of our own interests and every day opened my own every day i would like the government officials to organize everything on their part to the contrary so that we finally get the 60th mine minus 82 120caliber missiles, different types of missiles, drones, once again, which we already have, everything is ready under the network , all that remains is to scale it, and here, of course , there is a question. Government officials that they should do it as soon as possible in this task of the government in this task of the rear to organize and supply us directly from this word with weapons and ammunition. B in the first month of the war, i managed to somehow hold on, everyone was in shock, chaos there, but it has been a year and a half of war and no quality, quality production, quality, in general, our military industry is, of course , huge, huge. The question is if the government does not do this do not want to say some loud things but i will say how it is, how i feel, our victory will simply be in a big big question mark thank you, yegor thank you for defending us from the russian invaders this is yehor firsov, a defense fighter, a paramedic who fights on the Eastern Front of ukraine, friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms for those who are currently watching us on youtube, please take part in our vote, we are asking you whether belarus will go to war against poland, and after russia there are two the answers are yes, no, and your option, please leave your option in the comments. And please dont forget to like this video so that it can be promoted in youtube trends. Further, we are in contact with oleksiy hetman, a veteran of the russianukrainian war , a reserve major of the National Guard of ukraine mr. Major , i congratulate you for the sake of seeing you on our air. Good evening, lets start with the situation at the front, and the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine reports that the ukrainian troops are continuing their offensive in the melitopol and berdyan areas and are entrenched in new positions, the russians are moving reserves there in the east, the offensive continues to the south of bakhmut, the russians have withdrawn from the position south of andriivka. How do you, major, assess the advance of ukrainian troops in the east and south . The territory that is very uh, the strength of the forces there is concentrated in a pile that there are many military personnel, that is , there was a lot of equipment, a lot of artillery systems and in all components, starting from personnel and ending with weapons art systems and ammunition in the mountains, we are superior, that is, he has everything more , because in general, when and for the same reason, we do not have dominance in the air, that is, under such conditions , in general, any offensive is a big question , it is unlikely that this has already been discussed more than once it is said that it is unlikely that one country that is part of the nato bloc would agree or decide to take offensive actions without having an advantage in forces and means and not having mastered the air but we have no other way out we have no right not to do this so we are moving forward we advance and we achieve success is not only due to the fact that the weapons are supplied by partners, including due to this, indeed, this is also a very large component, but the motivation of our servicemen. And what is most important it is already a combat experience and modern tactics are original, as in which our general staff is used, well, in general all headquarters, which in all units , starting with the battalion, where there are already headquarters, which plan strategic or at a lower level , at a lower level, at the battalion level , tactical actions, therefore, thanks to these components you know who there said slowly or not slowly it looks strange in general lets do it again so that it would be better to hear that we have less on foot tanks assistant shells people less but nevertheless we are advancing and bearing losses up to 10 times less signed why this can be like that which can be this can be only if we what three three components which we would discuss the plans well we did not discuss i said e p major the head of British Foreign intelligence mi6 Richard Moore positively assesses the counteroffensive by the armed forces of ukraine, he says that in the last month , kyiv has returned more territory than the russians captured in a year , the slow advance of the troops. Troops from ukraine, is the key word west or a phrase . The west does not want to humiliate putin, or is it related to the fact that they do not give us such an f16 and do not give us longrange weapons, which, in principle, could provide us the possibility and advantage on the battlefield and actually expel the occupiers from all the territories that are currently temporarily occupied by the Russian Federation, well, this is not the first time such a statement has been made. The russians, how will they react to this, well, directly to putin, do they want to save his face there, or in some way, so that the conflict does not spread, so that there are no excavations , that is, this is a rather strange position during the war for fertilizing the aggressor who is probably another country, what war crimes does the soldier commit, so it is already difficult to list everything that he has done to someone in all the cities where they shot at civilian objects and so on well, here it goes well, remember that today the office of the United Nations sounded that they are asking ukraine to stop shelling moscow with drones because something is there, it is not very good , something is there. They said that these are civilian objects and cannot be bombarded , you know, in any case, any object can really be called civilian well, lets go if we shoot at a military unit, then we hit , for example, our own or a dining room, is this a civil action or a military one , well, you know, here you can think about a lot and say a lot, dear, this is nonsense, but you see the reaction of the judicial society, we have to realize this and do it for certain conclusions that even our closest friends will look back on putin, no matter how much we convince him that everything he says about his nuclear weapons, about his powerful armed forces, about the fact that he is there if he wants to be there, he can be there very quickly intensify turn this special socalled military operation into a fullscale war and then we will not be able to hold out there and so on. Well, they continue to believe this and unfortunately , these supplies of something are very slow. Well , you know how to react. Well, lets be uh lets remember what the industrious man said to such a foreigner. What, he, uh, he wont ask for permission or Pay Attention to the fact that someone there was very excited, excited, started catching. Theres some sedative there and not worry, take a rest, they are killing us, they are effective , they are destroying our economy , they are destroying our lives, and we will think about attacking our objects on x