Mazda has before the proposal that is extraordinarily, extraordinarily generous on the part of his room. There is appropriate course on certain issues, but the state of that is fundamental issue that there must be a sort of compromise from both sides. The only thing standing between the people of guys and a cease fire is the most. You would find a lot of pressure in 30 minutes in both sides. Not to reach any kind of compromise. Also coming up a plot to overthrow the German Government and replace it with an aristocrat wouldnt be modern day in for 9 suspects, charged with treason. Their trial began today. The whole affair is really a big burden for our democracy and really, really needs transparency. Who is behind this grouping and uh, what went wrong. That they could operate so long without having been sick. For 2 of our viewers watching on cbs in the United States and to all of you around the world. Welcome. We begin today as diplomats dare to talk seriously about a serious c spy is real and moss, have been it and were practically non stop 7 months now. The only pause was about a week last november tonight and something more substantial appears to be in the works is real, is reportedly offering a limited ceasefire and exchange for the release of 33 is really hostages. And mos reportedly is demanding the release of hundreds of palestinian prisoners held in his really presence. Now will him off and israel will they find Common Ground will a know be a green light for is really troops to launch their round defensive against rough up. This is what is real, is closest allies said on monday. Im us has before the proposal that is extraordinarily, extraordinarily generous on the part of his room. And in this moment, the only thing standing between the people of guys and a cease fire is a mouse. They have to decide and they have to decide quickly. So were, were looking to that and im hopeful that they will make the right decision. And we can have a fundamental change in the, in the dynamic does seem to me, the is the, you know, lets be frank, a pretty generous offer of, of sustained 40 days. He spied the release of potentially thousands of palestinian prisoners in, in return for the release of these hostages has not been in captivity for over 200. Alright, i want to pull in now hundreds of schindler. Hes an International Diplomacy analyst and the senior director at the counter extreme is in project. He joins us tonight from new york. This generally. Its good to see you. So diplomats, they have been open, especially in the last 24 hours about their optimism about this possible ceasefire deal. What does this tell you as well, i mean the, i close undoubtedly, but i like to add it more to. Fortunately, its been closed before it has frequently really been a problem about the leadership in guys all the time as well. Its not reading the willing to accept the conditions of a deal that say i must need to ship the outside cause that its like sampling. I thought i was willing to accept result while there is pressure enough just from secondary blinking, but also 13 nations collectively called on my mouse to take the deal out. And i have to release the hostages. Its only over, i mean, its old. And that is the International Community pressure ring come off, which what you just mentioned. What about the pressure on is real to make this ceasefire deal a reality while these, right, the government to be frank has been open to make it sci fi a deal . Um for a while now thats been a sub shift from i only wanted to accept short term as these fires and limited number of people and also only to be released only listings with minor crimes. Now that has shifted to a loan god willing to step along because these via but also to release palestinians that have most serious crimes against me. And what would the is really want to have from us should look. I mean, its very clear that the gentleman came up uh, is raised operations in dogs. I, the, the destruction of my master has an ongoing trade is concerned, is still and remains still the main, one of the main targets, the other ones, of course being the hostages. And this is where the appropriate mix is. The hostages are the same time for our mass, their life insurance. So i doubt that how much is willing to release on of the hostages. Equally, i doubt that even if this deal is made, that hes right and hes going to commit to an ending ceasefire. Theyre still rough or as still for battalions or from us in rough. I as well as the key, theres need is save days and seeing why in dropbox, they can not lead to lift a need for the file. Know, otherwise i must, when we come to june, they fast after the and so how do usually this is how much does not take this deal. Will that be a green light then for and is really ground operation into rasa . Let me formulate like this. If this randy government cant get the hostages back with this data very shortly, theyve been preparing for the rightful offensive planning, talking to the american, a government about their plans, how to protect civilians in jobs that during the offensive. If they can get those to just back, these rated government has no choice. They will have to do this offensive and try to read also just by polls rather than through negotiation. All right, thats another topic thats on the radar, particularly in, in israel is really media are reporting that the International Criminal court might soon issue arrest warrants for senior is really government and military officials any. Do you see this timing as a coincidence or, or is there something more here as well . I mean, 1st of all, the brand is uh, potentially to uh, issue the best ones, not only for its really is the name of the tire patients, but also for how much. So if it happens, hopefully, well be a binds biased approach, looking at what happens next. One is not necessarily yet a conviction of guilt. Mind you. So i dont see a particular connection between what the i c, i c, p to us, and what the negotiates doable. In, in cairo and in door. Okay. And sort of similar as always, we appreciate your time and your analysis. Thank you. Here at germany, 9 people suspected of plotting to overthrow the National Government went on trial. Today they faced charges of terrorism and high treason, prosecutor say the ring leader was a businessman in german aristocrat called heinrich prince royce. They say the plan was to make royce a modern day german, him for this was the moment prince kindly slices. Fairytale came crashing down. His alleged plan was simple, Storm Parliament and overthrow the German Government. But all stories pounds before the plot could unfold. More than 3000 officers were involved in the december 2022 raids. It was one of the biggest anti extremist raids in german history. At its heart, kindly close a business man and self sailed german aristocrats. He is accused of leading the plots at his hunting lodge. He and dozens of others are alleged to have hatched a plan to violently over throw the government. The group is linked to the right wing extremists, the vice build, the movement or citizens of the rise. Police say they conspired to establish a new german state based on the old empire from the late 19th century, with prince hines, h, as emperor among its members, former police officers, soldiers, and the former politician for the far right a if the Party Prosecutors and legs the network had access to a huge arsenal of weapons. The whole affair is really a big burden for our democracy and really, really needs transparency. Who is behind this grouping and uh, what went wrong. That they could operate so long without having been seen. Now prince hind wish and his fellow suspected conspirators are set to stand. Trial charge was planning an act of treason and membership of a terrorist organization. The voters across europe like they knew European Parliament in june. And the polls and predictions show a shift in the balance of power for right parties could emerge as the strongest Political Force in several European Union countries, including france and the netherlands, and their predicted to come in 2nd in many countries, such as germany of turnout among young voters is expected to be higher than in the last election 5 years ago, and thats a demographic. All Political Parties want to win over tonight. The leaders of 8 major european Political Parties, including European Commission, president ursula, find the lion faced off in a debate in the dutch city of boston, the audience, hundreds of University Students and the w. Terry schultz. She had a front row seat to tonights debate. She joins me now from last year in the netherlands. Very good to see you. So this was an event for the University Students. And right now is i understand that you were supposed to be at an after party, but instead youre standing. Well im looking there was an empty square. What happened of the thats right, brent um, after this major kick off of vent with ursula bundle ion and 7 other political leaders there were supposed to be a big Festive Party where students could discuss what they had heard. And the word d. J is plan that were bar set up, but as it perhaps is appropriate, the real world intruded on these plans and a group of pro palestinian students. Held a protest across the street from the, from the venue. And police decided to kick them out and shut the whole thing down hours early. So now instead of a bunch of partying students, you can see workers taking down the pro European Union posters hours early. So yeah, this is not exactly the way that things were expected to end, but you know, were the only ones here now actually worrying about getting kicked out ourselves while we still have to worry about finding in with the dance. Lets go back inside after listening to the 8 candidates debate, you know what there was for debate . I mean, was there a clear winner . Well, there was one way to measure that. And that is because the organizers which were Maastricht University and politico asked students on their way in and there were some 900 students watching lives. So this was really a big event, ask them who they would choose for European Commission president whether it was a live underlying should be replaced, and by the end, the leader of the greens plus attitude, who is a dutchman. And he would, he one i as to who the people here in this audience would have selected. But i came out and spoke to the students before they got kicked out of the square and asked them how they felt. And basically what i heard was that nobody was really happy with what they heard the candidates say they didnt feel like they had geared their answers towards the youth. Lets have a listen. I guess i felt, but um, a lot of the debate was more about so what are those were not doing . I talked to one another rather than focusing on what each candidate wanted to do for, you know, continuing this european dream. So its, its, its interesting to say the least. So im a member of the green party myself. However, i thought that our green candidate, well, he was a bit disappointing tonight. I mean, he did send out the green deal really well. However, i didnt, i didnt think that he brought his point across in the way that he could have done, or that maybe other people could have done. I think he could have squeezed us up on the line a little bit more on what you promised and didnt deliver. I would have wanted them to be more brave into taking up on some issues that are important. I thing for europe in general, they didnt take any risk, so no, and thats a shame. So students would really like to see some dramatic positions. I think more fighting more arguments and basically kind of days delivered the same kind of talking points we would hear in brussels. And so really we didnt hear anybody coming out really cheering their candidates either turn, this reminds us of how many per time youre talking again about this democracy deficit in europe. People tell pollsters that they connect much more to national elections, national politicians, its a never ending story. How to convince voters that what happens in brussels . Instruct burge matters just as much as what happens in berlin, paris, or rome . I guess. No success tonight of the thats true. I mean, admittedly, these were 8 leaders of, of groupings that are pan european and, and so you know, you could be expecting that they wouldnt speak so. So clearly to National Interest and boss equity to again came in 1st among the voters for European Commission president , he admitted that he may have had somewhat of a hometown advantage being from the netherlands. But a lot of these students would have liked to hear them speak more to youth and they really didnt feel that. And this was one of the themes. The democratic deficit wasnt tacked one of the 3 themes. The candidates were supposed to address. One was environment 2 was defense, and security and 3 was the state of e u. Democracy. But again, if you listen to the 2 of the students coming out after the debate, none of them really felt inspired. Of course, what happened here in this square losing their after party may have had something to do with that. It certainly didnt help. Yeah. And the irony here is that the events that happened downside and with everything being shut down, that will actually get more Media Attention than the actual debate itself, right . This is true and this is what a lot of students were saying like this is supposed to be an event about European Union democracy. Why cant we talk about god, that the war between israel and god, that was not a major event in the debate. And some students really felt strongly about that. Many of them were very disappointed to see the police very forcefully, actually tearing the palestinian flags out of the protesters, hand and kicking them out with dogs and you know, picking out the journalist as well. So this was not a good scene. This was not the way you want a pro democracy event, the end of course. All right, but were glad that you were not injured in all of that. Very schultz in moscow just for that. Im like, i didnt get kicked out. Ok. All right. Very, thank you. Thank you. What i think is a real issue is when, when were start seem to see differences between the number of birds that people say they want and the number that they end up having. And i mean, if people want to have kids like then and theyre unable to because of things like Economic Prosperity and costs of child care thats, thats not good, right . Thats a bad sign for society. I as americans are having fewer babies. In fact, the birth rate dropped in 2023 to its lowest level in a century. The only ribbon saw an increase. Were women, 40 and older. It is a trend that began around the time when i was born since the 19 seventys. Despite the little book we sold during the pandemic, it has been just one direction downwards. As a result, the United States is aging. Why can never before a gray superpower or is this a contradiction in terms . Are these demographics, dangerous for us, power at home and abroad . It is just one of the problem added realities highlighted as a new study prepared for the pentagon to be released tomorrow. The rand study focuses on the relative decline in us standing one that it says is accelerating. It lists many reasons, including addiction, to luxury and decadence. A loss of civic virtue military overreach, as well as self centered ellipse and environmental abuse. After more than 2 centuries, after the Pax Americana of the 20th century, is the decline of American Power inevitable, almost pre programmed. Well, my next guest has been thinking about the rise and fall of great powers. He is the lead author of a new study published in the proceedings of the National Academic of sciences that suggest countries of white. They are populations age and the older they get, the greater the probability of their demise. Im happy to welcome to the program. Martin schafer, he is with the department of Environmental Sciences at foggins. Net. Can you go to university in the netherlands, mr. Shafer . Its good to have you with us your investigation. It called because it caught my attention for for several reasons. I mean, you look at the mortality of states, 1st things 1st, what didnt you treat as a state . I mean, how far back in history did you go back and were there shared characteristics of, of all of these states . A while . States are very diverse. We have to look at hundreds of states, the earliest ones, 2002 years before christ and the most recent ones. And starting before the year, 1800. So we have an alternative to the modern states, but we have looked at a very large collection and, and around large differences through our small alarms, big warms and saw me and are terminated very, very quickly, older as were able to pull through for a millennium more or more so its a very diverse collection that normally does it help to say c, c, the veterans that the older states get, the more likely it is that the dent combs for a state just as it goes for humans. So we, we could show that there is a den seahorse stage to become fragile. And just like, just like human beings and i understand it correctly. The states have about the same life span, most of them the same amount of time before they enter decline. And i think its what about 200 years, right. As well. Yeah. But the there is a difference and to, to humans. So for humans to pro bill up to that youre done any given year it, it goes increasingly rapidly. I should become older. Thats fine. And all of us become really, really very old and for states, its not like that. Its over the 1st 200 years. They become increasingly google normal and that they stay and. Busy less equally vulnerable search, so its not as deterministic as address with humans. Some states are actually able to survive much longer than over. So thats a difference. But they do h and get to become more for their goal. And if we bring that then to our presence in the post mode, where to order that has been directed by the United States, the superpower, us, its about 2 markets, 250. 00 a birthday in just 2 years, 250 years old. Would you say that it is now in a period of spaces, or is the us now living on borrowed time as well thats, thats the, of course we cannot conclude from the, from the, our observations in pre modern states. But then one thing you can say, you start to United States are not alone, right . To the United States. Their constitution was rich and i think around the same time as the french constitutional french revolution. So there was and do you like to stays for very important, but there was a whole tendency around the world of different alignment away from the feudalism to and a meritocracy, to the industrial capital. Theres some debt. No, no. And, and the United States are a very prominent play ranger but, but again, theyre not alone. And this is a very different world in the sense that in the, like a 1000 to years ago or so, and a stage good, full and, and that was it very usually it wouldnt have major repercussions. And of where the one exception 11 important period when there was a cascading collapse of a lot of state to disrupt the so called and beta gross age coolness. And now of course we have a very cool negative world. So you indicated its a very different situation and on the other hand, i think the tensions that, that you see rising are comparable to dose in the past. But you mention like a stress environment, deterioration of the environmental conditions, youre perhaps increasing. And the quality, if you try to diagnose, i would assume diagnosing a superpower in the 21st century, of course is different from diagnosing the condition of a declining power. 500 years ago. Mean were talking about new threats, nuclear war. Im Artificial Intelligence this information, these new threats, these new elements. Would you say the hurt or help americans chances of saving itself in your opinion . Well, thats a very hard question for me to answer carstairs, terrorist the idea or that the new peer threat has helped present wars off to the 2nd world tour and with the risk of course that when things go wrong too much cope variable. And i think what is definitely true is that we are all more connected to the worlds done before and just true for the United States. Its true for the netherlands where i, where i live, to dress one, a period in time when the, when there was such a collection in the country as a reference to the mediterranean sea. And that theres a period in which famously there was a cascading collapse of one state officer d all there. That was that just hospice periods. So so, so an archaeologist has, have suggested that we are in a similar situation of need a risk to risk for that guess caden failures to just say once we have doesnt happen and you know, is the shape of before we run out of time. One reason that we learn history is in the hopes that we do not have to repeat it. So let me ask you, should your paper do you think, should it be required . Reading for every lawmaker in the United States, maybe lawmakers everywhere. I think its a good idea because it shows that there is this tendency to become fragile, but it also shows that it is not inevitable. So some states were able to do something about it and they could so far from the drive very long. So i think its a good idea to read the paper. Yeah, im a, its a, its a great read and lets hope that the, the story were in right now has a happy ending. Martin schafer, we appreciate you taking your time to talk with us. It is and you thank you. Thank you to well, the day is almost done, the conversation continues online. Youll find this on youtube, x in facebook either in the w near. She can fall, would be at risk golf tv. And remember, whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day. Well see you then everybody, the is he merely an invention of the middle ages, not tom. Even today, there are those who believe a week and theyre casting him out. What really have understand an exorcism . What are the symptoms of evil . 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