To say. And in the d r c, we meet ritual model who has built up a cleaning and pop. Do you remember that time in 2016 when formulate june president and will have multiple hiring, set his wife long in the kitchen, his living room and his room. Bestbuys significance progressed to last in the quality in africa. Theres still much way to be done. For instance, a video of this month expressing his traditional views on women has gone at about 10000000. 00 views or not is still going to. Lets have a look. A stand against the ego woman having equal arrived remained a home and woman was based on miss it. And nobodys still happy like that. The only reason why we have is stimulus loving women, the i to visit it because of the other. Why that edition. So would you rather be just stayed at home once educated like thats the route of the month. They have to be what they have to to give the house of the woman that it has to do. It is that thats, thats the best decent. Thats all quite sure. What is the issue about the other book culture. Okay, so quick question. Im a woman here whos doing this job of asking questions, and moderating. I would say im independent. Does that bother you . Yeah. Oh, ok. It to pots, industry debates. If we want to present to you this week, it is kamani, went to monrovia to investigate the role of women in relationships by speaking to this mom and other librarians. Here it is the hello and welcome back to the seventys of epithets trick debate. This week we are a library of the capital of monrovia. Now you might be familiar with the expression, strong african woman in this country. They suddenly having had a female president electronic johnson. But this strength in women is sometimes discouraged when he comes through a magic relationship, particularly in the applicant, context sensitive. We want to find out why, who best to answer this question for me that some late periods. And were going to start with the couple on the panel. We have a couple the so loved up austin insurance. Hello. Thanks for joining us. So lets start with the basic question of your day to day when you wake up in the morning giving me a little clue about who does what in the morning, whats your morning routine like sons how you really signing themselves . Well, thank you. Um in the morning i wake up around 55 like 530 a get my kid ready for school wide. Hes dead getting ready for work. Okay, so what do you say thats your domestic responsibilities. Sort of equally split between the 2 of you . Yeah, it is. Yeah. Physically im able to wake up Early Morning and get hot water for the kids. Im able to be beeping the little girl while she has to be ferrying cobra or something. So yeah, i think is good and i enjoy doing you abraham, where are you . I know that you have a biblical name and also an old fashion stands on the concept of equality and relationships. Tell me a little bit about that. For me. I come with uh, african quarter background. Uh and they are. Ruth described to me both men and women. I believe that most of the 1st choices, you know, are offered in context. Uh uh, the responsibility of the women. But the make them be of help to let me tell you, im laughing because the women behind me, im really sighing. You sucked in something then . Yeah. What i would like you to complete its fees. So you started by telling me womens responsibilities in their relationship. I had turned on. What did one do all the house choice . No, i said, most of the res, restore most of your hus choice is the womans responsibilities. So what does the mind do then . You know, will i be when setting is the head of the home hes responsible to, to, to provide for the home. Okay. Tell me what youre thinking. Always the female is a feminist and an activist. Yeah. Knowing that liberia was set on the basis of peach. Iraqi just explains why they are a no saying these different things. But when you look at who said those rules, whos who give the responsibilities of a woman take in charge of the room and doing the choices. You wouldnt know that the men said those rooms and wish wed be leave for very bias, right . Because womens potential is way be your own. Just taken care of who i want to hear from some people at the back, right. Let me get some reactions. Come close to to me, please. Im a decent analyst. Nice. Then it gives the ego will mind having you go right. Remain home and woman was based on mississippi and nobodys still happy like that. The only reason why weve had the assuming east loving women, the i to visit it because of the other. Glad education. Okay, so quick question. Im a woman here whos doing this job of asking questions, and moderating. I would say im independent. Does that bother you . A yeah. It, well maam, you know, african culture must not be dependent. What if i told you that in my culture, women actually the heads of the home by so culture, you know, gods and that was said yeah. In the back onto the women that there was something missing. So let me come back to the couple of the even holding hands. Let me tell you we are feeling so single today on this. So when you hear some of these a sessions, i can imagine that there must also be people in your family who also have quotes similar views committed assess the letters, you woke up and you know, washed the dishes, youre the man you woke up, just get ready for work and move on, you know, and then you start to follow that. I dont get a while as you do that. So i woke up Early Morning and what is going to shop people . Is that on the moon you as a me, you benefit a lot. If those equality in the, your mother goes to visit you and dentist, easy. Washington dirty clothes. Shes like, why is my phone rousing daddy clothes, let me hear from my building for a 2nd because we havent spoken to the hey, just want to investigate this idea of the head of a home. Because because no one has talked about partnerships in the contemporary. Well thats we live in today, do we still need that classical head of a home . Well, i have no interesting relationship anymore. It is because of what i went through when i was a relationship. So i had to quit 2019 because i had an a, b will save 5, but while it protective, and he was very abusive. So i went to it. I held my god like king. I have a look up in the morning and what so what sucks for bucks are in . What it bob . Really weird. Sweet sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet. I need to understand is what do you mean put stocks but what, what, what, what helps him dress up in the morning like a child was what i went extra martin, you know, helping my relationship. Okay. And to have a question for you as he was treating him as a king, as he was saying, which by the way, absolutely. Was he treating you as a queen . Well, he was abusive. He was really abusive. So it has actually to mid me until lost interest in having relationship. And when i see people are like, you know, quite pause and then i feel like theyre not being true to each other. Yeah. Okay. So obviously not all relationships which have that dynamic will end up in abuse. Yeah, lets just be clear about that. However, it can, because these a power dynamic that has not been addressed. So how do you bring, how do you navigate this . So for me, people always put or have a negative connotation. When it comes to head, are we not saying that there will much would be there want to address you is not, is that it will most responsibility to address you if that is happening, thats abuse. Knowing your rules is different from being abused, but im saying that the i ascribe this for men and women in there who hold them very clearly. Okay. I mean, thats your position and thats perfectly fine. Weve had many things, right . Including this additional is to think thats we mentioned, even be educated, let me hear from, oh, i am so afraid to bring the microphone to you. But lets hear you. Thats the point is a need that we go back to our tradition all when it was missing. But it was good to know have to do everything and thats why were having to do bidding. But its like not assuming this, but its what about why you, why eric is not we may just find a new home. Okay, so let me just, are you working for example, and you must have female bosses. How do you respond to that . Oh, or having a bus mean a female is going to come to get it because i really dont see her being submissive. Sometimes she just, she just was point, know how to man, and that is the high supposed to be so well not being a bus. It can be from abusive to me. Oh, okay. I, i honestly cannot believe that i am hearing these words in 2023, but um, but, but i mean youll, youll, youll view points. Let me get one last one here. Well, with me, i am power one. Yeah. Etiquette telling me i learned this aside to become better because come on with carriage children in our rooms for 9 months, which is huge. So i mean, were on dustin relationship because weve gone with them for 9 months when they come outside that weve been with them. It even be a hot spot in the old. We sometimes think of them as babies. Yeah. Alpha as bosses. But when you come on the babys man to support me, then we can be able to be the home and society better. All right, normally at this point of the debate, i would be asking people for solutions. But after hearing all the diverse opinions, im not sure that there is such a thing as solutions. We started with a couple, id like to end with them. Weve had so many view points here. Do you think that the kind of relationship that the 2 of you have with some people might see us aspirational is on the threats we woke up in the morning as a man and getting ready for work. When you stand before that mirror, jesse a human being, when you see your wife see a human being, shed hurt our way. Man, you are going to be happy. If you bring that woman to the equal point, youre going to be happy because were just equal and we have this agreement on audius. And were sure when we hit it back to the idea that were pushing well, which is a better idea. We go about that. Thank you. That is a beautiful place to rock this debates. We have had some very controversial remarks today, but also what a nice way to wrap it up. Think 1st and foremost of your partner as human. Thank you guys forcing the or, i mean theres some truth to a few of the things that those people was saying, some things i get some things. I refuse what part resonate. The role of a woman is to keep the house and the man is the head of the household. Thats just how it is. Well, if you were listening carefully, youd understand a bit different dynamics when it comes to relationships. Yes, i get that. But i have my version and i believe its valid. So what makes you think men hold a higher power in a marriage or relationship . Thats how it was when i was growing up. My mom was always working on household charles and she constantly tells me that i need to be a certain type of woman for my husband, you know, probably 31. Right. So how is this looking out for you . Its exhausting because i wake up get the kids ready for school, make breakfast, make sure my husbands close the ions and ready make sure everybody eat that lunches are packed if needed. Make sure the kids arent late for the school bus, then i go to and what are you evening routines i get home, make the kids t, make sure they bring their homework. Help them were needed. Then get dinner ready, prep the kids for bed and make sure of how these food is. Plates have been waiting for when he gets home and what does he do . He wakes up, gets ready for work, eat and leaves. And when he gets home, if he gets home and leave it just honestly criteria, hell sit and eat with us. And then youll watch sports or news or whatever then eat shall and sleep. And this, of course, you know, does that get you in the mood for, you know, i dont even know what a mood is anymore. How does this sound fair . Like, where is your joy . Why am i viewing anyone whos just tired all the time and never in the mood were African Women . Of course have been conditioned into believing in traditional gender roles within relationships mentioned do this, women should do that. Even in clear relationships, the more masculine presenting person is expected to carry the same gender rules which is outdated and unfair. All of this to maintain a hierarchical system that only benefits men and must have been relationships of jobs, social status just right in general. How many times do you work in town and feel safe . Gosh, never how many times do you think your husband walks in town and feel safe . Hes always Walking Around town even late into the night time case in point. What now . Im no expert, but i think your health and wellbeing are as important as anyone elses and that includes mental health. Dont let your home life drive you into a depression. Just talk to you, man, let him know youd like a break to come up with a plan to give a maybe tell him that and see how quickly hell come running. So i will try and its going to be hard to start that conversation because weve gotten the custom to district team, but i needed to hear thats okay. Ive got to go cook kids will be home soon. Can i get you some more tea . Girls sit down, i will get the tea, myself and order pizza for the kids. My treat. A thanks cause for those octave scales and the skate. And in case i asked you to be to pick your interest, you can watch a full version on i youtube channel. Ive often heard people say, in african culture, women are expected to do this, all that. But in my icon culture, both men and women, conbal, cassava, and profess hoops. Let me know why your call to doesnt allow men to do domestic choice. Im curious. African women are known for the entropy neural spirit. In fact, in africa, more women run businesses exist than anywhere else in the world. Ritual model is a prime example of this. Shes thought that hey, colleen in business in the Eastern Region of the democratic republic of congo, and now employs hundreds of people. She has proven what we already know, that women can excel in business, bestbuy to the extra head of the face. It is west milton that this story was recorded before the escalation of patients in eastern cool go. Mazda is 10 companies, bought a town overlooking lakes cube, and rhonda, is this be a total of an inspiring story . Its literally the rags to riches tales. Rachel, more low, a Young Antonio who overcame homelessness to bid her own cleanings come back to the full sized after the death of my father. It was an easy they chased us from our rented house and life to him to be taught. But i resolved to take my fate into my own hands. I started walking as a key night in town, in a big building with many rooms. Can you imagine . I was just getting 20. 00 a month for washing clothes, dishes and cleaning the house. Of the cleaning business has a setting stigma, even though its vital works, especially for keeping up with buildings running many young people looks down on the profession multiple now when you walk as a clean up, no one respects you. Theres just a neglect. You dont see the value you bring and even insult you via my academic studies, showed us we should be a jobs and not work for me that i find out when i came on the end. Rachel supported adult in the cleaning business. She advertised her services as a clean out on whats up, both around supplies and the power to clean houses. Then you go no one night, i discovered, you know, whats the group that someone was looking for a cleaning company. I wrote to that person directly lane books, and when i saw how big that cleaning budget was, i said in the how to build a team. I train them in one day and we perfect it older team at the walk location of the corner. After high, its rachel thought, most business would come best for 2 months. No one called again. So rachel began activity advertising using social media green door to door. When texting businesses, distributing flyers to families and offices. And its what about c a . It started with those advertisements i made on social media, showing people what i do. And eventually like lions and partners came, my vision is to be established worldwide because my mission is to ensure everyone lives in a good environment. An environment which is safe, clean, and without dirt. I know. So its quite the initial full stop ritual model now has thousands of stuff across the comfortable, specifically in because of lizzie and a love seat in coma. She has the 23 interviews, not because people often think that once a lady finishes her studies, she just needs to get married. All they ask ladies is when do you get married . Do you already have a fiance whose those are nonsense issues . However, i dont feel disappointed with housing, so ive done. Visual helps us sort of cleanings racks to enter pin euros. Richard headings via other young people to move past the preconceived ideas about successful jobs. The humble vision of create and clean spaces. Too hot on us walk is already providing fundable income for one great woman invites us to meet another who was captivated many with her voice city. Im in not is a musician and toys most of the inside of the best stool in town. Also known us in gene conway among the locals. That is about as a semi autonomous region, often times on. Yeah. And it boost a rich history. I see all, it is estimated that people have lived in stone town since the 5th century. It is no surprise that a city is full of history and culture to join. I mean not on this tool office still in town and explore. Its one of this know im see. See, i mean all the way from 0 and you are watching dw 7 to 7 percent. And this is mine. 50 stone town is the heart of sans he paused largest city tons and archipello goes nearly 2000000. 00 residents of famously diverse. Hospitable and to music gifted like city amena, the international, who yeah, came to musician, has been crowned a local tourism and cultural invested us. And today shes taking us through the city that she loves, that you sort of that is the, but its a mixture of millions of culture and everywhere you go, you will, coming with one world coming press is one will coming uh words this, this is called go make hallway, or we can call it old fort. But stone town is much more than its Historic Buildings and winding alleys. I mean not, and her band mates are working hard to revive the islands. Robust musical tradition for a new generation of sands, the batteries, the ticket, our guys, this is our space where we do all practice every single day. And today youre going to enjoy, ill talk to the, the group takes the name from city bin to sell it. The legendary single who launched essentially bought the local tar upjohn right into prominence. Way back in 1928. Interpreting the traditional style with mode danceable jobs. For the 21st century is the name of the game. And so is breaking down barriers around who is allowed to play. When i grew up, i didnt see the women playing that would then must be someone to brag this to move. And thats why i decided that to check the food and an instrument, i mean is banned, may pay tribute to the historic queen of tar up. But the stone town has also produced a musical queen of a different kind. The city is the birthplace of rock legend, Freddie Mercury and v. Its his house boy here and raised the inside of the box. And after that, he took the music all over the walls. If the reaction of the funds on the street or anything to go by Freddie Mercury is not the only music will start to be found in this neighborhood. The president of the issues like famous commerce is incense. He bought dna and its on full display at they started go central marketplace. This is called multi t t. We can find a lot of pieces because its listed here. We have the crowd testing guy, this one recorded quiz that is also fine. This is called denny, i love it, we use it. I nothing off with the and then the day my a but another life in stone town is just waking up local is blocked to the seaside clause all for a donnie with families relax. Youngsters show off the diving skills and everybody comes to bill. Theyve been here the difference with the surprises and one of my favorite fluids, which is a transition, any incentive what its called roy. Its a mix of potatoes as that. And the cuts time 5 to have a delicious and a unique its a heavy mix of flavors, fragrances, and friendly faces. And for musical trail blazers like amino the city is future is as bright and as clear as its story. Top end of the day. My speed, but also im so proud of my lovely that i have in sports my katya for what danny has become really popular on tick tock and hes the problem and i cant wait to try to jump myself. And if you have any female sports in your city, make a video and progress when you start from a lot. So i shall for this week. 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