How will funding for ukraine clear the kind of block in the us congress. And this president was 5 and really too old to run for a 2nd to nancy pelosi welcome to come pick some conflicts. So when you look at all the various conflicts to the in progress crowns at the moment and their capacity the potential to spread, how we reaching a new and dangerous Inflection Point . Well, we have, but i think it, everything is an opportunity. I do think that people are starting to think what is this about, or we cannot have innocent people of children and families of being victims of or when theyre not even combatants in it. So we have to find another way to resolve conflict. And because this is just uncivilized and brutal, but lets talk about that area with in the sense of being killed in gaza. Israel has been preparing his forces to fight in the Southern City of russell on the border with egypt, with most of the 1000000 the ballast indians have sold refuge from the war. Last week the white house said it wouldnt support a military operation that and want of a disaster if it went ahead. What should the us do if its rarely noise that morning . But i dont have hopes that theres some other place that israel can go in terms of being careful about civilian life. They have made it clear that they want to rid gaza of home us, how much is a terrorist organization . They committed an act of brutality. Barberic assault on israel from an october 7th. And following that, we see many children, families, grandma was suffering from the consequences of their but their action. So when you say they want to go into the city in and now the to the i understand has 53. 00 to 5. 00 times more people than it would normally have. Because it was so many refugees there and they were saying we dont support that. Well, we havent supported any of their aggression, but we recognized israels right to to protect itself to send its borders interest. But uh, i would hope that they would hear the call of secretary lincoln and of course, present a jew of mine. All of all of us are friends of israel and be careful about the civilian. The the white house is escalated as rhetoric, pretty shop the last week is to bite and said israels comes out to the world was over the top. There are a lot of innocent people who are stopping. He said that a lot of innocent people are in trouble and dying. And its got to stop canvass the bite and make it stop. Well, we have a s a, and im going to call mr. Because ive lost so much respect for him next in yahoo there who seems to be youve lost respect for a long time ago. But no, no less. It seems to be calling the shots and he and hes very extreme right wing. I wouldnt even say conservative because thats a legitimate place to be in the world of thinking on the spectrum, but right wing radical right wing of cabinet. So it hope that tearing from a friend of israel as joe biden is always been, and all of us have been, is that he would respect the lives of the people who are innocent, the Collateral Damage in this war. But there leave us that by them could use which he hasnt used to believe us. Which previous president s have used when israel has in the view, cross the line, for example, go back to the 9056 Eisenhower Office reference sanctions. If israel didnt pull its forces out of sign, i break and you know how the delivery of fight to jets of israel is actually level george bush senior lock loan guarantees because of the settlement bill budget. I was there at the j that, that i, i, well youre going back to the 56. I mean, so the name is the on there. So, but the president has said something about of the, the settlement. He has said something about the settlements saying and blocking the weapon supplies, we went through a very Different Things and thats not, its a path, its a path. So this is terrible. I mean, nobody wants to, in any way minimize what happened on october 6. This was barbaric. It was horrible and consequences hostage taking great murder, a kidnapping of attacking young people at a music festival. How, how bad could he get . And as almost to the point of inviting, inviting a reaction. Now none of us has any sympathy for what that is really has done to the, the children and an innocent people. And this for we have total sympathy for them, but we want the hostages released, we want him, us addressed and was addressed. I mean a, as in sat they think that they can just prevail in gaza and continue to be a threat to israel. That is not an answer either. So the ask is the funny thing about what people think if they start a high still it a, theyre going to end an injustice, but it usually just adds to for their hostilities. But uh, i guess my question is at what point would you a long time friend of israel say to the government there, the price of this military operation is too high and is no longer morally defensible, or either no limits as far as you know, concerned no red lights, well, why would they care . As i said, i mean, why dont you go if you dont use things silent and the, you know what im saying, style account with the same sign it were saying it is its, its wrong for them to do what theyre doing, to the extent that they are doing it, or you can understand if it, with another lens and someone came in and killed, you know, over a 1000 people and kidnapped and brutally harmed other people that you would want some justice done the but again, how that is calibrated has to be done with humanity, and thats what we have to return to is our humanity is the danger for the us. If you dont like what is well is doing and the president has made it clear that some of what is what hes doing. He doesnt, like i said, and you go on supplying them with hardware to do those things. You own this operation every bit as much as they do . No, we dont. We dont. We have only supported israel as our National Security friend, largely because it was in our interest to do so at large and because it was interest that we had shared values of only democracy in the region of the behavior of not and yeah, who is in my view inexcusable, in terms of how it is affected, the Collateral Damage to children and families and the rest. But nobody can take away the right of any country to defend itself that has been brutally attached in that way. Of the 28000 posted the lives has moved his self defense, isnt it . Its more than self defense. Well, in their goal, it, and i just saw as a present, hers of hope for whom i have enormous respect and a says how, you know, how are things. And he basically said, we just have a couple more steps and then well be through this. So that sound, that option of domestic to me, that they think that it isnt reach to read that as a of home us. I dont hear a lot of the people and outside my house almost every day, but nobody cares about that. And i dont mean to make that a big thing, but i just hear them saying free the hostages. I dont hear any of them saying a mazda is a terrorist organization. I hear them praising him us. I or them ignoring the hostages. So theres a lot of, uh, should we say a behavior we all have to address here last week be use for the policy chief joseph bureau, one to the loud, why the us isnt doing more to habits, warnings taken seriously in jerusalem, if you believe he said that too many people are being killed. Maybe you should provide few arms in order to prevent so many people being killed. Hes called a point as we see israel is very well equipped with a weapon rate. Theres nothing that we had sent since october 7th, that has a, has contributed to this boot haliday in the longer run it there in a dangerous neighborhood. And we will continue to support israel. Lets talk about ukraine. If we make 60000000000. 00 of us funding for you credit, is it a roadblock . Congress . The to the secretary general horn just before this conference here in munich on the way that the effects of that delay is already being felt on the battlefield. And that means that the lives of being lost. Do you think this broke bluff in the house of representatives . Come and will be listed . Well, you know, what was the contributions of donald trump because he is the one the public tear who is shining, the bright light on the strings that hes pulling other republicans in the house of representatives. But we have to get it done. And we have to find a path and we have to negotiate, and we have to compromise. Now on that score, i was the highest ranking 1st person to go to ukraine nearly 2 years ago. And when we came back, the goods that i brought were high level intelligence on services, phone affairs, chairs and that. And we came back and we someone at speed, we want distance and power. And we had been asking for that ever since we got more speed, more distance, more power. And the still more that we need to send their time not to believe that if you could be given the tanks. And besides it now has the fight to jets that are on their way when they ask for them. They might of last for a few a soldiers. How so the west being far too scared of most goes Nuclear Saber rattling, to give you probably the weapons it one to a lot of things west has been scared. I think that the nato and, and including United States of america have act in a very responsible way. Was great. Was Great Respect for the parish and the did democratic spirit of the people of ukraine. But they drip fed the supply well, they give them terminal, they have to go ahead and have them fight them, what they had and they could have to continue to make them. Lets do this together and that relates to capacity. It relates to scope as it relates to timeframe and the rest. And i think that they did a remarkable thing. This is a disgrace. What is happening in the town with some United States right now. We have to solve that problem. We have to get the job done and you know what else we have to do. We have to give it a little too late. Its not too late. Its not too late. I dont believe its too late. Not. No, no, no. Russia has a 2 years to strength and its military. Yeah. Well they just never showed up. Its what were the when the 1st day. Remember that they were gonna walk in, rose petals and all that stuff now, and its not too late. And i, if that put me in the corner of those who said when people say, well, maybe they should negotiate, know they should, it, they should do what they usually they should do. What they want to do in the last few days, the head of the stony is Intelligent Services suggested russia will not seek to double its military presence along his borders with finland, voltage states, and do everything he said to try to destabilize natos eastern flag. As also being the whole spade of warnings that russia will over the next few years attack and they to country is mekaux ready for such an attack as it is my business. No, i think nato is, but nato doesnt want to have such an attack. It would be a brutal thing to have engaged in a war between nato and russia. The important point is for us to help ukraine when the war because as you know, his appetite is insatiable. This is like they, they said of a passing degrade that you carry for borders in her suitcase, or she went to a russia was and thats what hes trying to, i think replicate a few 100 years later. But nature was finding use of on the funding years of neglect use of i dont see that as i dont as running down, its forces to numbers. I dont, i dont see it that way. I dont even put a division of 10000 fighting men into into a voice that they dont. Well, they may not want to put them into what they are. We havent put tape manual one, the theater. But the whole point is, of nato, isnt it . That they fight for each other. Yeah. But i usually have to do so you cant do that. I want to remind you of your negative attitude in terms of this this we have the resources rush. It is a big your pen army. Nato is a, as i said, was president kennedy. What we can do working together, meaning making our decisions together and collaboration and not condescension. And i think that were poised to do that. Im very proud of what america has done. Im proud of what your post done. I think you are past responded in a very strong positive way pollutant should take no joy in how he has been this war has turned out. He was going to win in the 1st week or so 2 years later this is now going into the 3rd year of the war. I really dont, i mean im prayerful about no, excuse me, but we need prayers and we need weapons and, and we need courage. And i, im just, i mean ive seen too much of it in terms of visits to our country, our visits, they are my members going and the rest. There are those in power in the house of representatives who would hold this up. And that is a thread because they are, they wanted donald trump as theres speaker of the house. And essentially they got him because he calls all the shots. Now i didnt come over here to talk the politics. But when it comes to the policy of this, of having members of congress, house and senate, saying the praises of poor have because of mimicking, you know, who knows, his name is to be president to, to the name you dont want to mention. Its like a found works for me, you know, you know, like a curse or when i was laid off, he used to curse where you would dine, go to hell. That was the catholic faith. Let me ask you about these reports of russia reading a new Campus Office space Us Intelligence has just flagged that out. Have you been brief on that . Yes, it has now denied how much credence do give them whether they are or not. Can we have to be ready for everything . Yes, i had been brief doing that. Ive read the it series. Well, is it serious . It developed, but it made it. Its not a question of whether its a development. Its a possibility. And we, we piece in space is something that we thought was a given. But if it isnt, we have to be not surprised. Cuz this lead to cuban besides style show down is that what might be a head some people think. So i hope and have some informed people. Now let me just chat are class people who are being brief by the intelligence. So im just not the people reading the stuff they say, oh, it sounds like this could be just as us the question id like to talk briefly about taiwan to you. You visited with us. 22. And then the paging feller, i real maritime incursions ballistic. Besides going to cyber attacks, you think china will eventually invade taiwan . I think if they, if they had a capacity and thats what they would try to build to. But i think its, and i think its a convenient threat for them. A convenience that you dont think theyll do it. Oh, i dont put anything past them, especially sheet. So what did you go to that was . Well, heres what i think about it. Its my head is not my god. The. Im in the house and then the senate, democrats and republicans are very strongly in support of taiwan. We have our tie, want us to taiwan relations at which says that we support them in there as they defend themselves, should, should they in preparation for it or should they be attacked . They have become a thriving democracy, a model to the world in terms of their economy and a leading chip maker at intellectual own incentive entrepreneurial country. And we were not going to let them be ignored. Now, with the us fight for taiwan, if it was invaded, its not for me to say, but we, we have no, do you know, they dont know what our policy is, the strategic ambiguity, but vitamin came out and said he would defend, he did so. But what we say is that we believe in the one china policy. So were not saying independence, nor are they that maybe theres some people there saying independence, but thats not the policy. Were supporting the one china policy. And for them the status quote. Okay, them still in the brief time we have left of about the Election Year an a, b, c. So suppose on the 11th of this month showed 86 percent of americans. Now think joe biden is too old, so the 2nd time statistics like that, causing major alarm bells to ring in your pocket to joe biden. As a great president of the United States, he and Campbell Harris will be our candidates for president and vice president. He will be re elected president of the United States. Does it ever with 86 percent and what do . Well, what percentage thought that . I think the trump is too old. Hes 78. Whats the 7778 years old. As it would be for the americans would prefer to have other people on the pallet, but not as exposed to the measure that youre talking about, the 2 people who are likely to be on the ballot. So why we just dont want there to bind joe biden . Has wisdom, knowledge, judgment, a beautiful vision for america . Knowledge of the issues hes been there so long, a strategic think or a leg master legislator. And thats all up here. And then in his heart empathy for the American People in the woods is the special council who investigated his handling of pacify documents. He was a sympathetic. Well meaning elderly mine with a poor member. I think that that person should have just done his business charge or dont charge. We dont need you being a doing a, a doctors analysis of, of something that you are so one, sarah about another is there other people that he, that are part of that, that he could have said they forgot. Do you remember everything that might have happened 2030 years ago, but the Public Perception is now due to use to old to wrong . You dont get away, let me get back to you. I mean question. This is kind of let me get to question, are you comfortable with that . Yes, i think still fine is great. Just we making a decision to when were doing everything to own the ground, to get out the vote, a to message, to inspire people, to come to the polls and to have the, my 3 and this mobilization, underground message inspire money to pay for it off a and if you want an example, just look what happened last tuesday in new york in a district that trump one by 8 points or can one by a point, a swing of 16 bytes and says the democracy itself is going to be on the ballot to november it is the right. Yeah, absolutely. Its on. Its been on the ballad ever since. Whats his name . Run in 2016. So trump again, youll be on the mention of near friend the curse word. The um, the thoughts really terrifies you. Winning doesnt to be want to know why, because just think of democracy writ large at risk praising trump. She came john long out in hidden north korea the rest. But yeah, its a bothers me, but lets not talk that big way. Lets talk about the kitchen table. People are having their family discussion about their family planning, which is an economic issue. Take great pride in eliminated roving ways and eliminating a womans right to choose her reproductive health. If your eligibility q and all the other initials that come after it, forget about your properties or you feel a repeat performance of the interaction that happened around you january the 6th 2021. If trump lose as well as well, we have a i would hope that it lesson would be learned by the people on the other side. Theyre using the defense of well i didnt know, i thought i was just going in the capital. And yet really, really that was horrible. It was in the salt and was assault on our constitution because that was a day to honor the constitution in terms of accepting the, the other 2 by this week. So thats how i of the certification of the Electoral College vote. There was an assault on our congress so that we couldnt do our business. It was an assault on the capital of the United States so fragile. Did us democracy look that day . Well, as far as i was concerned, i said right for the start, they cannot prevail and they will not prevail. And thats just the way it is. And if youre doing the, hes not going away. Hes not, hes a headed look. Oh no, hes not going to win. We have this is our valet for sure. This is our Washington Crossing the delaware. We have to when there is, everything is at stake. We had a beautiful presidency. We are having a beautiful presidency of dubai and had it a said had because when we were in the majority, we were able to hassle you feel free to you went along with his story, closing the poles with his started slow. So let me get back to my point then. So 15 months ago, fighting for the fly, the be still their dependents, the opponents and the pools, and all of a sudden all of this and you got that. They were saying, youre going to lose 30 or 40 seats. Youre gonna owe an apology to the democrats because youre using the wrong campaign. I said were not. We know exactly what were doing. We know exactly what were doing. We just have a will to when and you know what with just when day be fancy for those things. Thank you very much. Youre welcome to the the, to the point. Strong opinion, clear positions, international perspective. With the Nato Alliance expanding into the high north and francis president s back cause thing, he cant rule outstanding ground troops. Crane with get pulled into direct conflict with russia. Find out on the, to the point to the point in 30 minutes on d. W. At clear to histone in the country of mine, im touch nation, im rich, natural resources. A corrupt to lease is selling this plan to chinese investors. To reduce risk in 75 minutes on d, w the this shadows these costs and video shed lights on the dog is devastating. Colonial har is infected by germany across and he employed the schools, farms and destroy lives. 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