What about human rights and accusations for the Border Guards have been legally pushed back . My goodness, along the frontier with by the rules. And why take on by doing the diving this you any is relations with china, off to taiwan is allowed to open a Representative Office in the country with its name attached to it. What did you want to prove . Youre very welcome to come pick time. Oh, thank you for having me here right now. The new middle east conflict is dominating the worlds headlines. How vital is it . Thats the wes doesnt change. Its i off the bone and you pride. Well, it is high so, and its just the message that my colleagues are from the government myself and also they like mine is the country keep repeating, but i dont really think this will happen because of course its so complicated to sort of work on a couple of problems, and its natural that the new for that you information that comes from israel is a guy who is most probably now taking all the public to the public space and visit the media coverage. But on the other side, the uh, the, uh, the problem i think underlying in both cases you brain on and, and, and israel and also is related because what, what we see here are both both bookcase. This is the fact that some of the people think that they can just tell me by flores. I rewrite the rules and dictates of democracy. Do you worry the, those countries supporting you crying with weapons and ammunition might be less inclined to ship the supplies to care, but theyve promised the preferred box to keep them for themselves. I dont really think so because i think that most of the country do understand that the problem is long lasting and its not about you know, whether youre ship something you promise to do you bring or keep it for your phone. But the problem is much wider. The problem is a long time on the financing, on the uh, on, on the limited uh, situation of the defense and security in the most of the countries who, uh, this position that you know that there, there is no, no real risk. And there are no real types to, to security may be targeted, but not the authorized form of the authorized military fraud. And of course, the warranty frames has changed this understanding significantly and what the countries need. They need to increase that tension. So thatd be fine. Some security, so i think the, both the countries of the countries in the region has done years ago. But for this you need also to increase the capacity of the military capacities. Remember, democracies do it for, to produce 1st and foremost that they, what man they ought to be. I never think of what is needed and this is not, you know, that you can save on account of your brain and sort of youll, youll pay for it as much. Why this is, was much why the things that need to be done in the democratic. Well, when it comes to the battlefield in ukraine, where are you hoping for better results by now from the credit in forces as well. You know. 5 frankly, i think this is something that people will say, well, come on, im just finding. But on the, on the side we must thing. Uh, what, whats the rush shot a lot to do during the time that the rain was not dim and was not trying to even uh, to be given the weapons needs. Because the level of blinding the level of a sort of problem that was created for, for the premium army within those couple of months, was so huge, back to the cost is a very hard work for your brain to, to break through. Um, even more difficult. But when winter sets in, so everyones in a hurry, the battle seems very finally follows, but the moment is not your impression as well. Oh, well, my impression is that the, the changes in the, in the, in the board a lie has, if i might say so im not huge. And of course, youre actually trying to about to erase some of the new at toxin in, in, in the region on the bottom of it then. And, and the new regional coupons, most probably to, to draw all that attention of the, bring an army from the, from the south. And from this hallmark. And this is a, this is the way im even, russian will not count its losses because it doesnt care about losses and for your brain. It just like a huge challenge given by the just smaller country. Its just a democracy has been charged by the office. So in the end, yes, the winter winter time will be much more complicated than the summer and automatically, but you understand that. But i will still say that its not for us, you know, to make inclusions or to make judgments on, on them. On the success of bringing an army, we just need to be patient that we need to provide a grain with everything we can and, and do everything we can to support the 3 of upside forwards, independence, etc, territorial integrity. Lets talk um, if we may have bought these you, of nato unity and especially since is being reported that you might like to be the next nato secretary general. I dont know what youve sorry about that, but perhaps youll smile says everything in you and you spoke of the global forum and telling me even you set the war, had cemented the unity of like minded partners across the world, europe, nato, the whole democratic. Well, theres never be more united and we must uphold this unity in those cases spoken a little too soon. Vince you problem turns against do crime said last month, it with the supply. Any more weapons off of the current contracts right now, well have to see what the new government does hungry when ship any are told of as, as of back here. Not one round of ammunition more about was the campaign soaking of the mon robert to feed. So who set to be the new Prime Minister . So this is not that unified, is it . Wow, im a politician. So in most of the cases i separate the political rhetoric, especially when you know that the elections knew me from, from the, from the beach on the, on the ground. And it just not made so that this providing uh weapons and not to read to you brandy and uh, do you bring it in for it just comes to the salt major, its members of nato, depending on what, what, what every country can do and isnt a profession to do, i will remind you that from the beginning of this slide to scale invasion wife, many countries where im not in a position to provide any legal weapons to frame and its a board to us and it took a sort of this thats uh, im this time to go all the time thats happened in the district of care. So for some of the countries to, to, to change his mind and then to deliver the next range of was thats why its so much needed. So it is somewhat a different situation because it was never like uniform the same and all of a sudden now some countries are not doing that are in your opinion, youre in union, theres not a military law in your union, its more they have support for a for a, for you claim, just sustain itself, the budget to review as reports, with financial support, also supported the fiftys and up to now all the decisions that needed to be taken for the support of your brain. How by the, by the countries, by consensus. So uh yeah, it is not the lessons you know to, to, to, to, to less than somehow uh, some. 5 those internal debate that happened, but when it comes to decision making, i will not be the best. And where are you on the issue of ukraines membership of you and nato images, accession to both organizations . Oh, its the most probably easier to say about the you because the process is rather horrible. And there will the evaluation off of your being Commission Upcoming this uh this autumn about how successful successful countries, why not only your brain, but also, although i know theres in implementing the interim steps now they have to take to the bit fault is talking to negotiation so around, so theyre fighting for european value, theyre fighting for democracy. So, so that it doesnt, that get taken into account. Well, you know, you should not off this live union Prime Minister because the union Prime Ministers before my how many Prime Ministers and theyre all what bedding for their geo political inputs. All European Union just happened to frighten in European Union before any invasion was bought. Even before i knew that before 2014, so no, they might hear, but the hormone stuff will still be taken and its, its much clearer if you ask me. My understanding is very simple. If this all of interest to you, right within the european finally, same as with the family, but all this, you need the consensus around the table, so well take off. Lets go back to nathans july, somebody in your capital values before and but on the way your foreign minister, cold, publicly for dates, way points as the product. So as to tie down your credit, your membership, but they didnt get any was not as frustrating for you as it obviously was to you guys, president s are landscapes. Its a blessing to uh, to understand that on one hand, there is a declaration that ukraine belongs to me to the family and some broad future. But on the other hand is due to how this notion of, uh, uh, one of uh, agreed and conditions not met with the way you do not know what, what exact conditions are and the minds of the, of the problem and focus formula. But i think you bring every day that is so the price for the rights to be, to belong to European Union and nato. And this is something that the countries need to take into account. So of course the debate will continue until upcoming washington summit. But of course, there are, there are countries that to the, thats what, so maybe phase testing. But this is not the baltic countries of what exactly it says you can walk away from this much hide summit security guarantees from the g 7 countries for now that pretty much worthless. Andre, reading the small print, the only from commitment by the g 7, was that in the event of a russian strep to ukraine, it, they would immediately consult with kia, to determine appropriate next steps, a consultation more than 600 days into the largest conflict in europe since the 2nd world war, and you can can rely on whats a consultation. Thats pretty self thing is there. I think your brain can rely and will rely for the foreseeable future on the real support on the ground from the partners military support the financial support. And it will be able to support the country needs now, not in, you know, in, in the future. In 10 years or 15 years, because this is michael, but your brain was as well. I dont want to, i think its most crucial. Its outcomes. We stay committed to providing the brain with weapons with needs, with financial funds, with needs, with everything it needs to. When the best of the jobs, but they will do that, they will come to supply the weapons, you know long so far i have no doubt so far. But looking at the look. 7 that is the best from uh, put in on the electron changes in, in many countries, hoping to 70 percent of your time use media evolve. You know, uh, real leaders, they are like in the us and all we are like awesome the western democracies. They all just terminated because they just comfortable for years or 5 years, im doing away. And of course, this is your best on, on, on the, on the change of political cycle. But i just think that this is that a real, i mean, this is a realistic. I dont think anything will change. So lets look if we may add some nature. I was planning to display your wage and the voltage region last year. Your opposite number and estonia kaya carlos was pretty scathing about natos defensive strategy for the Baltic States under the alliance as punk block. She said theres tony. Would it be wiped off the map by any russian, a bronze even if the intention was to lose estonia and liberate that later everyone, she said, could see that this trip was concept. Doesnt really look, since that statement has nato done anything to rectify the situation . Yeah, a lot because new defense plans have been approved uh before, somewhat before, but for everyone doing Business Days or something. And the planning is uh, sort of based on the on, on the real world assumptions. And it is a, it is a real defense plan. I would just say, and of course the approach all the partners because we as the both the countries all invested, you locked our into our defense and security. We all have all the time spending well above the 2 percent. Theyll do the b. That is the 12 volts before make a whole new member states. But of course we are still small countries. Um you rely on um, on the, on the support of our partners and also on the boots on the ground. Thats when the president in that and in all countries physically and to most of my thought decisions, i think of this it might have been taken by a kind of government by the government vault charmer, germany, uh. And we are speaking about to the location of the gates of the, you know, within a couple of years. And so this we are building into the structure and uh uh, and the big big capacities to, to, to welcome the of the german troops as a host nation. So i think a lot is happening on the ground you. Um you say that you get more German Service on a couple of years. May be brigade strikes thats, thats a long time given whats going on, isnt it . Well, you know, you have been pressing hard to get these troops now having to and how many has been dragging its feet, isnt that right . I know i would not agree with you because what we were discussing about would that be a permanent position in the military exercise base station india or whatever on, on call, or depending on the situation increase on the, on the ground. So there is a significant increase all the partners on the ground now, and this will continue. There is a significant result, military exercises happens in the region and it is very important. But for the long term, there will be a significant increase on permanent presence. And i think this is this disclosure and the other ones is what would really happen in russia and directory attacked. And they tell me, remember, since every decision is you say, requires consensus. How does that move in and start the member countries to suddenly agree on what to do with a major event like that . What kind of response did they give . What level, what weapons, what warnings. Um, a lot of people seem to assume that article 5 is like an emergency. Cool. You dial up on the cavalry arrives. Its not like that. Is it . Oh i would say about uh, i would agree with this slide about the article 5 uh more a couple of years ago. I would be more its more a couple of years ago that non board now because of this is amazing. The annual pride of 24 february 2022, also uh 5. As a way to pull all the countries that were talking, there was a real, real mandatory fred, i mean we have this debate all the time as youre probably not aware of all the countries my saying, you know, this is not about drawing much on the past. Its not about complicated history, its about the reality that we see in russia happening where the country is becoming more and more imperialistic. And so instead of giving the people of prosperity and economic growth, they will give the people propaganda and, and who are also also come through. And this happens, but i think this is, this was also a wake up call for nato as an alliance. And many things have to use and then sweden and finland decided to best for me to membership. And this is also a change in the, in the security of the region given back to a couple of years ago. Nobody was not talked about. And youve been reading your power point joining nato. Now we have a new defense planning. We have new uh, new ledges for, for, for uh, whats on the ground. And i think this is, this is my for now be immediate danger for you and your region seems to be from hybrid wall. So things like damage to Critical Infrastructure. We sort of a bolted connect to a gas pipeline between from the starting to which i sprung the mysterious leak. Um, earlier this month, do you have any doubt that the pipeline was intentionally damaged . Oh, i have my own theories by and then under the circumstances where the investigation isnt going. I will leave my uh, my theories to myself. And of course, we will wait for because you know, uh, conclusions by finishing this dont you know, how valuable does this incident make you feel . And i think what is important is what we saw also and you kind of lost or missed that the technical infrastructure and everything about this related to the 5 is the values is something bad with an account to get. But she told us that easily as no, no, no boundaries have no barriers to this. And of course, this is also uh check situation where you can show that a company should feel more comfortable or should feel that they cannot control everything that is complicated to control everything and whatever and what have them across the country. But of course, we also uh learn our lessons and we also make uh make our own calculations. So weve increased the maintenance of the uh, safety Safety Measures for our Critical Infrastructure that long ago was this invasion stop. Because we know that russia, in many cases, will consider or Something Like that, just for the sake, all sorts of inquiries. And finally, among the population, funding is the number of concerns, the thompson of your, above your governments. Observance of human rights among your board. Us specifically with regard to migrant push backs and august 2021. The counselors commission of human rights. Right. Youre expressing concern that people attempting to enter and issue a new and then the regular matter may have been summer. Labor tend to batteries in violation of your legal obligations. You run the backside months say all the people are treated in compliance with lift you ideas, international commitments, several reports since then. Have contradicted your assurance while the reports simply roll over you misinformed about the situation by law degree. I dont know what reports you uh you refer to it, but i know what happens on my border. This is i know from 1st time so to say, and i know that it was the can apologies, arranged as artificial flow of migration. To make a point again, poland, meeting and lots. We have to push them for lifting up essentially. So again, it goes autocratic, the shameful for to, to make other concessions because he just, uh, found the way to do so. But i mean, uh, i know what it was submitted and the international conventions. But i also know that the board is all there. And the boarders all that are they should be respect your um, Constitutional Court in june this year declared that your detention regime of the board of what was in conflict with all to go 20 of your constitution, protecting liberty. So they ones are the happier than the human rights commission, whether oh were speaking about one particular uh, part of the law. And this part of the law is now on the bottom of the amendment. The bottom is, this is a regular procedure that happens in the country where somebody uh, refers to a Constitutional Court and Constitutional Court. Sometimes the permission over legislation is not the, which is what happens then. The legislation being amended Advocacy International says within 2022 alone lithuanian border gods pushed people back to bellows moving 11000 times despite the risk of torture from officials that did you know that oh, i know that there was a number of attends to illegally cross the Border Company every day, i know that there was a possibility to launch a request for political asylum in the Border Crossing point. And this is, i think, the procedure that should be follow to people once a real political and refugee, im the 11000 push backs as well. The number of people is not equal to the number of people who are not the same people attempt to cross the border each and every day. My 1st tax are legal, legal under International Law and i under you law. Oh, they are not something that to that we find very convenient, but we have an extreme situation because on the increase of the migration that was august, right . Thats by the time everybody spoke for talk in our neighbor. So youre saying that just if i pushed back, im saying that we need to protect the borders of europe in union partners. So lets talk briefly if we met about your poor relations with china, which took a dive when you opened the taiwan Representative Office a sort of quite as i democracy 2 years ago, much to china is discussed where you been deliberately provocative for what, what, what did you hope to prove with this . Oh no, we just opened the office now functioning, getting most if youre getting countries. But so you knew that it would upset. Uh, uh the chinese um was it was it was, it was picking a fight with magic. You didnt get that much support from your your um president service was a mistake. Its not about the upsetting, upsetting the chinese because its the summer and decision of with Union Government to increase its relations or intensity of its relations with 500. 00 people. As i see no problem there because its operates. And i think most of you repeating countries, the only uh question was that there was no new offices open in the recent like 17 or something years. But why should the Union Government know do this because it was not done in the recent 70 just, i dont know because it was how it is operating in so many european countries. So nothing seems to be that you wanted to teach everyone dont tip toe around 5 whole countries. That was a mistake, perhaps people made with russia, was it . And you wanted to give an alternative view. Oh, i think that with russia, so you might have all the all talk receives. We have the same, the same problem because it is not that you can push the way the other side, like speaking gently saving that phase is doing something, you know, what is what we usually do in, in, in, in, in, out of the wall. If you will be allowed to be pushed, then you will be pushed to the corner parameters. Then im going to remind you said thank you very much for being on company. So thank you. Of the many of the writers of the, like, mix with, i mean, racially prejudiced themselves. And yes, it is connected to the idea of colonialism. How does a just world come into the thomas jefferson, principal, author of the us declaration of independence believe to have the solution . Why do we still struggle with global and quality and Structural Racism projects in like in 15 minutes on the w. Ready for an underground upgrade. Big data and quick instruction side of the vin moms bell tunnel. This 18 kilometer mega project will connect germany to denmark, from 8000000000 euros. 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