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Bombardment, mazda officials and guns that report over 1000 palestinians came. These very ami saves because now large the gain control of the gaza border weight has most forces for head to foot. Expected, drawn defensive is run, continues to find victims of how much of the tax in the area around gaza. More than 1200. These varies have been killed, thousands more, have been taken back to gaza as hostages. Meanwhile, germanys bottom of the book, this dog has held a minutes silence to commemorate the victims of the home must everest attacks in each room following a speech by the stock present. Better by the boss and piece from across the political spectrum rose to their feet to another memory of those who lost their lives in the attacks German Federal president , front fault this time. I also took part along with israel ambassador to germany, or on cross or a German Foreign minister. Adam in a bad bulk addressed the gathering. Lets yeah. What she had to say that you have to done one can leave a clicking on clicking. Ladies and gentlemen, do your colleagues see of i am, was excess hundreds of young women and men celebrating life as a Music Festival used to be for chase through the desert by terrorist muscle mass occurred. I did mention both people, families peacefully, celebration ship bought in their living rooms were brutally a top pituitary killed. Concerning that which um its client can mothers with small children who would be non to really i said, i guides and tests taken hostage. As you say in these montague and the most, most israel has gone through in these past days is barbaric. We have car unbearable and its low. But i dont think anybody in this room can even entirely understand degree from the sufferings tnt of the many, many people effective. You didnt even help to dish dish, knock them from, or does log into how much there is no justification for her mouse is auctions use got you hooked up today. Israel has the rise as im doing good, and indeed to choose the towards the citizens fish and to defend itself against this terrible terror forced by them within the framework of international law. Tanya, to apply for east side. This is, this is already cleared up for israel. On the 7th of october 2023 is a turning point to the top in the Bloodiest Day in the countrys history. Youre seeing if you got it out the door to the german government, we stand as soon as the bonus tag has just underlined. Firmly by the side of our is ready. Friends, hes got, its michelle. Hi Israel Security as part of germanys region of space. The you can test and in nice of those you got, you saw my goal for israel or supports in every area you can buy under 4 feet. Is the most perfidious part of this one. Civil is not the suffering of civilians living king of innocent children. Women, a man. Yeah. Temple is parts of a mazda terrace strategy. A slide on buddhism is what you listen to the list of suffering of jewish is. Riley civilians are interested now especially of the kidnapped hostages, including germans. Jewel nationals is either a pet or strategy. This terrace strategy is playing with these lives in the most brutal way types to optimize the speed distribution, ultimate implies also plays with the suffering and death of innocent palestinian women and children, each of whom the mass, terrorist abuse of human shiels. So thats the thing is thats why its so important to us just to be and these are the, to our, to, its so important to me different. All thats in the situation. We make the contribution that we can make from the ad side and guidelines. Im, it was, im working with our partners and friends and coordination with israel, government and do everything we can to ensure that the terrorist game does not become reality. Youve described the im select from the size i list, that means doing everything to ensure that this is per fitty escape played with civilians by the terrace does not work to germanys foreign minister said. That is where i can count on germany support. I asked the dot loop june us identity at the bottom, the stock. What that actually meant from what weve heard until now. It is about reiterating the fact that germany stands a strongly by israel and that germany supports israels right to defend itself. That germany is in diplomatic contact with countries in the region, but also with partners across the world to try to make sure that the conflict there does not escalate. Theres not expand to involve other parts of the middle east. Weve also seen and heard from the german 4 administered that germany is directly involved in trying to rescue the hostages that have been taken from israel to gaza by how much terrorist germany is in direct communication. Is working together with israel to try to achieve this. But its also in contact with actors in the region and who have direct communication with im us, but its also talking to countries like cuts are and other gulf states to try to get them to directly speak to how mazda try to get these hostages out of gaza at germany also said that it will not stop and im not in a bad book before minister said she believes it is detrimental to stop humanitarian aid to the palestinian territories. She said, but how mos, uh, it would play and how mazda is hands to stop to mandatory and aiden that this could lead to an escalation, for example, were homeless to use a lack of aid. For example, in the westbank to have the a school, the conflict escalates their to the douglas judas identity. The speaking to me on the how most has of talked a dozens of people, including children and the elderly. Some hostages are also taking the outdoor Music Festival close to because a gun been shot dead at least 260. 00 people. The families of some of those at the festival still have no news about their loved ones. They dont know whether they are dead or alive. How corresponding tanya prima sent us this report to the uncertainty is unbearable since saturday doesnt tomo shut them, have had no news of that or to a new one. She was at the race next to the boots. The you have the casa border when im us militants, launch the attack. No, im uh, i was uh, calling the 830 about 8 30 in the morning this saturday. And she was frightened and crying. And she was like saying, theres gunshot that we could hear like there is a gunshots around. And there we find some show took place and with a group of people together. And then this things happen here sometimes, you know, like i was telling her no problem. Youre in a safe place, work with pen soon and see you in a while and then she said ok, i dont have much a battery. So i, i love you all and then im, im afraid i love you all and i dont know whats going to happen, but anyway, i love you all. Remember that said up to several of thousands, mainly young party goes where at the sides. Saturday morning, when rockets fell, almost and gunman started to shoot. At least 250 people died here. Dozens missing. So to be taken to gaza and has hostage by them and attends 3 days later, thomas shalom and his family are still searching. Hospitals hoping to adulthood wasnt abducted. That was the last time that anyone heard the something from nom and from that time we are kind of thing to to lock. This is a sense of sadness. Im going the uncertainty of what is said to come. As more details emerge from what unfolded on such a day, many is radius has a hard time to come to terms with the unprecedented attack on is really communities. Me as it goes to a strip intel of beef young adult. He has also been looking for a friend drum. He was working at the festival. They have known each other since they were teenagers. And then the last contact with him was at 9 21 am. On saturday morning he sent a text message to his mother. And uh, in the text message, he says that he, he loves them his family. Um, but hes in a container. There are a lot of terrorist outside, lots of gunshots outside. And it does not seem like they are going to make it out of their live friends and family is going social media for a sign of life that didnt know what had happened to him. But then a text message arrives. And i was just asking a rums wife last if um, if she can send me one of his pictures. So i can uh so i can send it to you from there winning day. And um and uh, she says that they, they told them no officially, but hes dead. Um, hes family. He knows already. Hes one of the many killed in this attack to choose 10 of them. One is director of the middle east and north Africa Program at the International Crisis group by austin, what he makes of israels response sofa. Well, um, it is not surprising that as well is responding and the way that it is now, which is massively because it has always responded to uh how much rocketed tex which we saw in the past. Mostly in this way, uh massively, by destroying the buildings and uh, you know, going all out to the gaza strip. I know this time they have additional reason because of the nature of the how about the tech on such a day which was horrific. And as, as cost me more is where the guys you guys will cease than ever before. And, and so premier to submit to yahoo is already set. We are going to flash at the strip. The other is when he spoke to people who have have made similar comments about and said they will give no fodder as solely in violation of international law. But i, i expected that as well will go out and even more than in the past. But i was, i dont see is what the game is because in the ends, what do you have . You have a destroyed cause of strip. You have people without homes. My, you may have defeated the us. But who, who done rules to face . Are you going to be up to you by going to do it yourself . This is nothing really an option for as well. Or can i just dig deeper on when you say is the room, we go all out. What do you mean . What we need is around executive do, are we talking about ground invasion, followed by occupation. What are we talking about or so i dont know what is well do, but its, but i can tell you that if it does what i think it will do and that would be the consequences. So if, if there is going to be a grudge of vision, an oversized, or does, who will be one of, then they will, it will be aimed at ferreting out how much fighters who are currently in hiding and so mostly on the grow. If that happened, do those fights will come out and there will be, hows the, hows combat that will actually destroy it . Whatever is Still Standing today and it will be nothing left in those parts of that. It goes, this trip with a fighting will take place. I dont know if itll give the entire script in the end people, as your correspondence said, i have nowhere to go. Absolutely, nowhere to go. So israel must, i take that into account. It is, well have to find them somehow in a, in a, in a smaller part of the strip as it is trying to fight. If i just find and find these homeless bunches. But its very hard to imagine that it will be much left standing when theyre done with the ground evasion. And then yes, the question is will they leave again, these really trumps or will they stay and take care of this population which is done some of the without is protector and, and governor. Right. Uh and um, you know what to do . You know, were talking about the, what is the, could potentially do. And at the same time, youre talking about is rendered, responds to a mazda thought. Theyve got these rarely establishment completely by surprise. I wonder if you think that any assumptions about from us that these are very difficult to establish fund needs to have a read think about, especially when it contemplates its next course of action as well. Im sure that theres good. There was already a lot of re thinking happening inside as well, about the overall approach. And people, you know, remember to 9073 of tougher war when as well was caught by surprise. And they say they said then we, we can never let this happen again as sort of me. So theres a whole culture in the end, theres really as security establishment about, you know, always question the goal and assumptions, which is a very healthy thing to do, right . Away, but somehow it fell apart in this case. Why . Because they did seem sciences from us was not planning anything in the near future. Theyd still be beacon for the last around to fighting angela so long ago. And they were completely preoccupied with the strength of his brother and disorder border. And the security is really simple and less thing. Uh so um, so it was a failure. Were pretty much a nation in a way. I do have to ask you about what her moss was thinking all got and he continues to think, what is a mazda is in the game here . Attacking is around, which is a strong ministry par. And then uh, almost certainly expecting. And his vendor responds, what does, how most think it is going to achieve . And beyond that, what do palestinians gain from this attack by him us . So its a good question about the idea and thats how much they must have otherwise they wouldnt have started this attack. They had to time to think about it. Its not that heavy and gain of in my view because it brings about the destruction of guys and possibly also from us as a military move missing kaiser. But they must have thoughts. We have no opinion for 17 years under a tides is really siege where people cannot really leave or goes to the largest open air prison in the world. And where you know, services are not arriving goods are arriving only of a certain kind. Food admitted medic, that, and medicines and stuff like that, but otherwise theres a lot of channels come in. So what can we do after the fact as well . So several times, 5 times in the past and nothing has changed. Its only gets worse. We have to go for broke, we have to go for broke, and that means let them come in. Well fight them. We will budge, inflicts for the casualties. But then eventually the worlds will have to recognize that situation and because that is still sustainable and its very responsibility will have to leave it there for the time being. But thank you so much for joining us at this time. Just came to mind from the International Crisis group. Thank you so much. Is around was beginning to fall. Its closer ties with out of countries under agreements known as the abraham of codes ballasting and say these ignore the situation and failed to address. Fact conflict with is around and now the affairs of the fighting could escalate within the region. A mass is recent terrorist attacks on israel have led to questions about how it managed to carry out an assault of this scale. And if the consequences could spark, why did conflict in the region for so many years or wrong as being one of the main supporters of a mass and other palestinian is the most militant groups providing both arms and financial aid. Tyrone express support for the latest attacks, but denied all involvement, boom boom will do some of them as below all via run back and heavily Armed Organization in neighboring lebanon is also a supporter of a mass mass and has been law deemed terrorist organizations by both germany and the united states, among others, a mass is latest attacks comes relations, have warmed between israel and some arab countries. The west has suggested the attacks may have been in part, an attempt to undermine this process. Rawlins long time rival saudi arabia had reports. Theyve been close to signing an agreement with israel. It was hope this could lead to more our been predominantly muslim countries, folding better relations with israel. The saudi government has said it will only normalize tides if there was major progress towards the creation of a palestinian state since 2020 israel, as also normalize relations. Under the abraham of quotes with United Arab Emirates by rain america, they joined jordan in egypt and having diplomatic relations with israel. So don has also taken steps towards normalize relations. So many palestinians, these agreements are seen a serving only the interest of israel and as an abandonment of the palestinian caused by arab states. We want to get these very perspective as well. Therefore, the, the most hans brunt interviewed israels ambassador to germany or on process or here in berlin. This is how that interview went, is invested up closer. There are people who say that the events in israel not comfortable to 911 in the united states, is that a comparison . You . What support the answer is yes. From the shock. And but you know, saturday, the 7th of october will be a day is it is going to stay in memory. S a black. They us the data this day that the state of is and the nation state of the jewish people have ever encountered. Those images, the state of israel, was basically established in order for those images and never to happen. Were going to react in such a manner that come us as a terrorist. 7 is ation with it. There was infrastructure will not be there after we finish turning to the situation. Now in israel, at the moment, the gaza strip has been cut off from the outside completely, even including water and electricity. That is impacting more than 2000000 people is not a little bit harsh, i guess more than 2 a 1000000 people that are. So im going to stop here in the me. All drugs of health. This is you have to understand this is a paradigm shift between of humanity and barbarism civilization. And this, this is not this cycle 5 minutes. This is not 2 sides. This is one side, a terrorist organization. This has decided to wage war against israel, and we will go after them every way they are in order to replicate this infrastructure of their, the basic there arises not as the only user but the whole region, but it appears to be necessary to take this fight into gaza that will cause more casualties, both for the israelis and for the palestinians. Is that price necessary . Is well pay a high price if we go in because we dont have another choice without soldiers. Well, boys without good price. In addition to the price of what we have just space, were going to do that because we cannot even think of living in this region where the own neighborhood is located. So what about peace . What are the chances for some kind of peace between israel and the palestinians and for the middle east as a whole . No one thinks of peace at this stage. We need to make sure the mass is taken out. Believe me when theyre out there many and youve seen that in the region of its one piece we want space at the end of the day, were going to deal with it. But now lets go ahead and go back. We havent finished this, were not, were in the middle of the morning. Were not thinking of anything as but making sure that those who did it to us will not the but the has been some progress on the piece front and recent months between these rather than some arrow upstairs. And most recently that was talk about some kind of agreement between is rather and saudi arabia is all that finished office. You understand that this is not going to adventure, that the run and from us a thats a special be wrong. So this a function mile with saudi arabia and be cited to the source. So its not going to eventually and come us at this stage in iran. We are now in the middle of the war. We may have to make sure that those who did it to us are going to be punished severely after that, im sure that theyre going to be many in the region that are going to move forward in creating a better made an ease and then possible a comprehensive piece, but now this is not the things that were talking about sort of close or thank you very much for talking to the daughter of at a to and the devils middle east on the sunny rose on his jasmine studio for more funny work. And we had the really invested of the speaking very emphatically about going in to gaza and the problem of an invasion of some sort. How much of that is in between, assess what do you and how much of that is going to convince as well . Thats a great question. First of all, this is the the cause of playbook. Were almost used to, you know, weve had so many rounds of attacks and counter attacks between the israelis and, and, and hum us that always in many times ended up also with, with in vague, with ground operations. Its always problematic. So, and the one that is real says it wants to rewrite the play because because the old one obviously has been the way they see it has been broken by hoss. But its not quite clear what is the new one we know from the ground, there is no doubt they are preparing for it. We know also them which wary of it and its not clear what shape it will take. And that to now youre asking about the politics is in a very right wing government and he needs to, of course, also the base. You see these to the people, they want to feel something is happening. Hes very much bound to show that hes realizing something. So hopefully were hearing today of the unit to government coming in. He might have more balance, more balance voices that might give him a wait for. Other may be alternatives for operation. But youre talking about a government that is facing criticism for one of the biggest intelligence field is that thing and 50 guys. So it hasnt been an intelligence failure like this. And if and you know, has talked about has been bad hom, us to isis to risk correct. Clearly needs to show something some action to these really girl is only people expect the so the response is of course we seem to see to in gaza. We see the, the heavy bombardment on gaza, the toll thats and gaza is rising exponentially almost every day. You know, by the hour. And its very much part of nothing. You always need to show here. We are doing something. I dont know if and i think many experts agree that this has not yet. So the turning point, this is not your giving the effect that will mean that this time things are going to end up differently. Unlike what youve seen before. What the argument that the piece process has been dead for quite some time. Does this completely betty . It, i think its thoroughly just to, to say, and even the ambassador himself said, it might not still be done in the water. It can be that in a few months, when this is done in a certain way, hopefully theres still hope to get some negotiations and diplomatic efforts on, you know, going and successful will leave it there for the time being. The thanks so much for joining us on the studio to bash on it was on us and that doesnt, its on a dw news, but the continuing coverage of these around as well with how boss will be on on just not just on Television Screen television station but also on our website, well see you later soon by the dw 416 fox vm, 5 every day, the World Wide Web for free. Because we can take the different w to call, the world unpack pulse out of your info and all the input your w story. Now onto the limited freedom of the online where young those koreans fled to south korea, where they realize their dreams of becoming social media. But then they disappeared without warning. Need to recess as a north korean propaganda video. Whats happened from north korea with love starts october 25th on d, w. The the or the old. We can be the generation, the ends that feel good. Malaria must die. So millions can live the. This is the, the, the news line from the lid. No rest by just israel steps of strikes on gaza. Understand, you know, its hard to say more than a 1000 people have been killed in the bombing on the course of a 1000000 displaced in while these right and ministry say at least 1200 people have been killed by an export. As most of them civilians is there any defense policies are going to be preparing a ground defensive against gaza. Visions, prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, and nonsense inversions and government deposition lead a many guns for the generation of the conflict