The, my name is melissa chant. Thanks for joining us. India is demanding the withdrawal of canadian diplomats. Thats according to a report in the financial times. The report also says daily is threatening to revoke diplomatic immunity for any canadian staffers who failed to leave the country by october 10th. Ties between the 2 nations have fallen apart over the murder of 6, separatists leader. Hardy, seeing the jar, a canadian citizen, the Indian Government calls a terrorist. Earlier this month. Canadas Prime Minister justin true though angered daily by publicly accusing Indian Governmental agents for the killing. His yard was shot dead by masked gunman outside a sick temple. Near vancouver in june. Daily denied any involvement dismissing canadas allegations as ridiculous. India had earlier retaliated by issuing a travel warning for what it calls, growing anti india activities in canada. It also stopped issuing visas to canadian citizens. This latest expulsion of more than 40 diplomats would it be a major escalation in the stand off . Many in canada as large see could community have voice support for true though, taking a tough stance against india. But with the anger are also fears over safety, dw spoke to 6 in toronto. Weve seen safe in this country, so our families are safe. So thats place all of this moving in the day of the best for this country to because of safe for oversight. Community for the countries can survive without each other, like not even india and not even canada. So i guess everythings going to be good. So right now, or what indian called me are good to the how deep signature its really like tightening for us to seek leaders in the community. Like the the, or likes, care, know, Indian Government might hire someone to give you right. The more 6 live in canada than anywhere in the world outside of the northern indian state of punjab. 770000. It strong. A small handful of the Community Supports a movement for an independent state of collis drawn, carved out from india. The vast majority of the diaspora rejects the movement. The diplomatic fall off has Many Canadian seeks, far more worried about the impact it will have for them in canada and over in south asia, the same goes 6 in tune. Job are likewise worried about the effect this will have on them as dw ideal bought reports and go on the streets of ribs or in North Western india. These activists of protesting the king all 6 separate this leader of the signature. They see the Indian Government part of the murder in canada and raised Prime Minister to exposing the eligible enrollment. They denied such claims for the active list in assist the city leader and was assassinated. The organizer of the brook this belongs to a group which seemed quite a separate sic homeland, also known as college stone. He sees the beginning of the city, the in canada really have repercussions of the thing that the us as soon as this is no use estimation of how deep signature alone, one quarter century hes assassination. The indian state is instilling fee to the minds of the Younger Generation that supports the close of kyla stands and there is a separate thats explained that they had gone off being a modern and unable to get away from the demonstration in the city. Sent a few up here to share the sentiment to the majority. Do not support the idea of a separate 16 or college stone con. Nobody demands callous to people just want good jobs, a better life and a good system. People are happy yet, but tensions for the killings are being felt in other areas of. Im rich so many young people are hoping to go to canada to book the come to courting centers like this one to improve the english. But the friction between india and canada has left some anxious about the future. Ive got on a lot of reasons. If canada stopped giving phases to Indian Students will have to start from scratch. I mean, weve made investments and also have paid fees for education. So he much has been invested in everything will be ruined, and well have to start all over again because i really think the data. And there are other challenges as bookseller inform and call this done support done because ive seen explains, she feels the growing get tension in india and wants to separate as a could be used to discriminate against the group. She sees people are not interested in independence but to help other concerns. The situation and for job at the moment is very critical and people often job a lot of flood with programs like unemployment and many other issues. So i think that call us on woman has no relevance at this point to find what concerns. I mean that the renewed attention on call this done would make 6 talk gets politicians intent on still can do wides. Political games are joining us as change budget pays Senior Research fellow for south asia attached townhouse. Thanks for coming on the program. It seems that the assassination of hardy seeing the jar has had the opposite effect of what the murderers intended. And now theres global attention to a previously largely unknown and, and very small separatist movement. Talk about things backfiring here. Well, you know, the color sun separatist movement was rooted in median state of punjab. It picked it back in the 1980s early 19 ninetys. Its been fueled by local grievances, but also by, by support from pockets time weve seen a revival of sorts in recent years fuel by next us with organized crime and drug smuggling and combined with economic change challenges in the state of punjab. But its nowhere near where it was saved 3 decades ago. And the called a Study Movement is arguably stronger outside india than it is within the country today. Why do you think delhi is escalating things with this latest diplomatic move against canada or so i think and what we have seen is, is a, you know, the, you know, the relationship is on the downward spiral within a tit for tat escalation by the end of the canadian and they need governments, you know, latest development is that india is demanding that canada scale down its diplomatic presence. But to see, i think whats surprising is to see such a public spot between 2 countries that are not adversaries. So until recently, canada and india been pursuing deepening relations. We have so of course seen similar tensions between canada and china for instance in the past. But here are 2 countries that are both democracies, both claim to be responsible, global powers. Theyre both advocates of the rules based international order, and theyre both close partners with the united states. And i think thats what makes this a particularly difficult situation. And in terms of, you know, your question, i think it, its indicative of india pursuing a more, a sort of muscular foreign policy. So its a country thats showing itself to be more prone to taking offense to actions. The challenge absorbing the status and more prone to take with retardation such actions. To what extent is modi, unable to navigate this as flexibly as, as administration might like . Because of what youve just alluded to indian nationalism, which is i run across something hes helped foster. Well, i think its important to know the domestically. Theres been a high level of consensus in indian Public Opinion and across the political divide in support of the governments position. So theres, theres been sort of a rally around the flag effect. And if you contracted with a canada, what to do is facing declining approval really ratings and to those actions that receive less universal support. And i think this clearly needs to be put in the context of next years general election and movies likely to use this incident with canada and indias g 20 presidency. To show that india has a more sort of muscular foreign policy. And its true, those accusations are true and on the one hand, as you mentioned, there were a lot of incentives for canada to improve relations with india. So one would think that the canadian leader would not be lying about this is frankly, this entire situation is given him only a world of headache. So its clear that he believes and extra judicial telling has taken place in his largely peaceful country. Is there any way then out for india and canada in terms of moving beyond this diplomatic rift and, and does either really want to so i think there has been some initial signs of, of, of attempts to try to deescalate tension near truth. Judo originally made a statement saying that he wants closer ties with india, you refer to india as a growing economic power. An important geo political player has an india of course, is a core component of canadas in the pacific strategy which was gonna be a last year. So there are some attempts at least that indicate as trying to find an offer him to ongoing tensions. But as of now, i think, yeah, so it is a very difficult situation. Both sides claim to have the upper hand, they claim the other side is diplomatically isolated. Both sides claims that they have the moral high ground. So canada is of course, accusing agents of Indian Government to involve be involved in the killing of a canadian national, a canadian swell, while india is a choosing canada, becoming a safe haven for terrorism extremism, an organized crime. And that i think, yeah, i think for the foreseeable future, were not seeing any, no clear offerings or attempts to try and de escalate tensions. Or this dispute is happening, as you say, in the context of a number of democracies making overtures to india, particularly the united states, as a 6 to build alliances in the, in the pacific as a hedge against china. So, um, can you talk a little bit more about how this killing on canadian soil, how its impacting these uh, greater and bigger great power dynamics. So i mean its, its, its a interesting with you mentioned the us, the us has invested a lot of Political Capital and its relationship with india. And we saw the red carpet welcome. That Prime Minister movie received in washington in june. Weve seen growing engagement between both country and this comes in the context of india is growing strategic importance and so within the last year its past the u. K. In terms of gdp, its past china in terms of population. Its seen as a bulwark against the rise of china. And washington clearly doesnt want to jeopardize the time and energy that its invested in its relationship with india. Which is why i think we see, you know, relatively noted or re screen response by, by the us and other countries. But i think, you know, if, if an indian link is definitively established, i think that would put these countries in a very difficult position. For instance, the us is, you know, dont play concerns about indias human rights record and allegations of democratic backsliding. It may be more, you know, for us to more openly acknowledge these concerns to touch bash, pay. Thank you so much for joining us. So thats it for the program. As always, you can catch us on social media and on our website, w dot com, forward slash agent. My name is melissa chance. Thanks for watching. Well see you tomorrow. The people in trucks engine trying to see the city center and the straight pieces explain the around the world more than 130000000 people us. We of mine because no one should have to make up your own mind. Dw may 4 mines of the be connected, billions of dollars, but the money is gone. 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