The motor handle, everything was going well and s b a. Then the war began to sort of not everyone was forced out. The, this is my father. What are the ones . Whats his name . Thats more about the g learn best. Cut them quite. His hands were tied. Yes. Whos that . Without me. My brother in law hums. I told bosh comes up to the bush. For them quite. You know, his hands were also tied plastic. See how that works . Can i encourage a couple of, do you like to leave the upload a sent a way the women in his family and some relatives, he kind of uh, let me see that for you to necessarily city on september 23rd, 2019 at around 3 pm. Total 7 or 8 born or has entered the house. Let me just see. And this would be nice. What us, when we said they were probably rational bruce or the my brother Mohammed Mohammed or the norm and its plastic film. Definitely. You know, if its not enough, so just like the others listen yes. One second them who were also tied up like that more but you cant get free. So sort of any lame of what you left me but you know let how about i told him he should go. Sure. Whom is that . Why did he stay . What kind as if he was too proud to go . He told me he was ready to die in his house and with the in april 2019 libyan war. Lower general. Hi lisa, have launched an assault on the un recognize government and previous capital. Tripoli, the, it soon became clear that half those troops known as the Libyan National army, the l. N. A, were not acting alone. The itd be that the Intelligence Agency reported on it. Can you know not that many of them youre on an estimate of 200 people. Me to answer about them, but the fighting went on are the number grew up of what we call the everyday from the start. These forces made a difference on the battlefield. A clear difference was how he kennedy had they had weapons wed never seen before as to how they can, the most howitzers will see any precision guided ammunition can snipers and thousands of home was a muscle canvas. The they hit with aimed at those to any result. They could take out a moving car, no time totally from can. And after that, they were highly trained militarily in the account of the deep asked me for unlike other and then looked at the desk, gave me the any, i mean im can we any uh, jimmy, honestly they all were the same close helmets in body or the the canada, we found out who they were when they went to the front and got a view. They were mainly russians and bore from countries of the former soviet union savvy. About 4 months reporters from the bbcs, arabic and Russian Service is carried of research into russian mercenaries in libya. The theyre known collectively as the wagner group, but who is dog now . And why was the group in libya . And most importantly, who was pulling the strings, the then unlucky break the okay, here we go by them. How . Thats how the, the, the we got this is tablets in government. Troops has found a lot on sort of the about the call to help them to focus alternate with it belong to one of the wagner men who were stationed in the islands. Our area was in the south of triple a. I cant imagine why he didnt seem to for things are going to douglas, and i try that. There are a lot of houses on the most important is offline maps. Many locations are marked on come up to the one on a and i the them in. And monica where the see, this is triple a. In the west of livia, all the names are in russian. Many locations are marked in different colors, the them in america, or next to them. And when sonic a like a minimum of probably below the most, most in read below and others are in blue. And that got it done by the clubs, a few smaller places in black. We even see yellow here. Now, as you see, all the points are near ions, are of the south tripoli sorta, who are you if youre going to look that up with the adamant again i is the, were going to ions are terminal where this tablet was found on lines that are kind of the items are a head, a heavy russian presence according to the civilians and military personnel who were they asked the and the kind of want to come up to them and them as you can see in the areas now m terminate is or if there was a mass exodus for hines, or at the time of the things that its residents returned once the war in the they were way for more than a year and on the Southern Center because its better to want to find me high some why finally spend 9 weeks fighting wagner mercenaries in ons are they were only 10 kilometers from tripling. Can i do some of these . I know the enemy was over there by the tower and the musk. Skinner. And then they drove up and down in an Armored Vehicle with their wounded corners of house. Oh and you can most of the time, this is where the russians had their observation post, where theyre snipers were stationed. Lets have a look at the, you know, where was the sniper . Exactly . The human. This was his domains. Hacking. Im thinking that we were at the end of the street saying, okay, not to come out here. He had a clear shot in several directions. With everything in view and they can, they may not have what do you think about the russians who are here . The mercenaries. Anyhow, they only care about money for a heavy you need to search um they kill so immediately if they commit crimes for money the problem that in and is its a criminal organization. One of them was it on me. So. Ringback ringback really about about, off has been researching the wagner group for the bbc for years pioneer. So these, so these are the locations that were saved by the bag and a soldier on a tablets as they were fighting. So they would have the tablets on them and all these locations were saved as landmarks. So do you have a significance to the soldier in regards to the fights and they were doing and names are. So a 5 starts from the top here. And this is the closest point to ship release, so this would be a nines are fine line. Im going to zoom in a bit more. It is me. This could be a list of targets. For example. They write to thermal targets or nighttime arrival. Decent reach below, wed say it may be that meant a shell land in there at night, so i dont know who to do with this. So if you feed zoom in here earlier, is this mohammeds station. It probably means some kind of local commander was working with them because lower down is the word study. So the kids, so due to the arabic means, friend. So they can use of they called the troops. They cooperated with and syria substitute troops and the cd. Thats apparently what they call, general hop tars forces, and lydia was come up and she learned very simple language and so called sound like code names. They probably had a check point at the junction of each other as it comes to judging from the code names, the read positions are those of the mercenaries. So and if you think from the code names that we have for some of the soldiers, will we be able to identify them . Yes, of course. Hes cute. We have list says wagner personnel with names and code names and events. And you say that to me just because theres no thats those. No, but we could use this map to start digging limits. And thats still the complex thing to do. The typical buttons that are, unless someone is that the wagner group is one of the most secretive organizations in russia, i could suddenly become fine. It doesnt even officially exist, but its important that you provide more than 5000 people are found to be part of this organization, named after the grades of german composer. When you get to compose you and i dont mean to bug that across. The mercenaries dont give interviews, some kind of done you that you do to former members agreed to talk to us if we kept their names and identities c criminal. But it was for the semester could, i mean, mean not uniqueness. To explain the meaning of these are their exact words spoken by actors sort of what i need to do to earn his cousin level as well. Some of us to let start with something simple as you can company. How would you explain who the wagner group is . And what it does to someone whos never heard of any it is though it does that, it can use that to if you, to my husband, you might, its not just a little i still knew id probably start by telling them what i was told when i joined the patrol about that just to go to control it, but it knows its an organization that supports rushing interest to yall and our countrys borders. So to get to that, but it does much not live upon union. So because of the church, you know, it takes on special tasks. That means military operation was east. So then what kinds of people joined . And then what is led to me . There are 3 categories to you. All 3, could you go to a little, gee, firstly, men who cant imagine any other life for themselves at the what the corn mercenaries. So that to that list job is the only way they want to live and earn a living. We split that so you raise new up, shit, sports, and what about the when youre junior folk of what they prefer . You see that i get you go to italy, you get 3 categories. 2 people with a sense of hopelessness. An e mail would make you was more lets see just to envision that they cant see any other way to support themselves. I knew exactly who would we come because there is no other option to go to a jetta, mind to key. And the 3rd category romantic, usable and reading, or is in search of an adrenalin hit. You know, also want to serve their country. Issue was more of a list. But literally good cheese of 500 units fund alongside pro russian separatists in Eastern Ukraine in 2014. In 2015. They showed up in syria and then the Central African republic ensued on and in 2018 livia. Over the side, we started getting reports of russians fighting for the so called wagner group on half to our side in the fall of 2019. Hows that . I cannot see. How do you have seen with this of us, the media, its in front of us. I dont know exactly how many were in libya still peace, 500, but the 150. So if 1500, the numbers very not what they were there in 2019. Thats a fact. We saw mercenaries come in on both sides of the conflict. You also had the number of the syrians, thousands of syrians who were brought in uh on the part of the on behalf of the gen a through, through turkey. We were concerned about this, you know, insertion of mercenaries and weaponry that was perpetuating intensifying the conflict and leading 1st and foremost the misinformation of the living people. This need needed to stop because we knew there was not, there was going to be a military solution to this conflict of some of the as far as i understand that the russian governments position was the following. Kelly hol, let them join and well wait it out. Were currently in the front of ga yes, i cannot be here in cal, its not easy. If it works out well, we can use it to our advantage. If it turns out badly, then we had nothing to do with it much that are are there. So last time we spoke, we um we shared with you uh, some of the exams are found by the tablets, other locations or the tablets. Um, can you tell us why you manage to find the yes, we ran all the names and code names of wagner fighters thought to have been in libya through a database. The database was compiled by ukrainian volunteers during the fighting and Eastern Ukraine in 201420155 university eve that we were able to identify 2 or 3 of the fighters on the triple lima by it. So i thought of the proposal, the 3 kinds of people you oh wow, thats amazing. Are you able to share with me one of the identities on in the chat . So can have a look which is which we now know that this has to meet 3, but on se was born in 1993, which is code names. So lang that makes sense. Any, its the name of a river embody. Gotcha. And the Russian Far East of them is weird. See, hes from pretty up to you and that explains his code name. Do you want me to assist you with his personnel . Number, it shows hes one of the 1st people that joined bog down and explained to me that it was with numbers up to 3000. Are those who went to fight 6 years ago in ukraines united issue. They went through syria and theyre now in africa, which is to the early so the looking at his birth date is about 28 years old. So that means he started fights and we were back in there at the start of his twentys. Yes. Judging from his age, he probably completed his national service, then ukraine conflict started. Thats how he got involved. And you said youd be doing sort of the pacific on which we stood with. Ive sent you another link. The chat doesnt update soon. The. This is the date and me, its kim. It tells him as a door, andre of it, i hope i pronounced that correctly. Well, its more of how the code name meddler made me to the meta, exactly a short version of his surname. And just to kind of show now if you will find me the way information every minutes together about this guy, hes significantly older than foot on top over 35. Judging from his personal number, he also joins wagner, 5 or 6 years ago during the fighting, an eastern new crane. But in the best i can, can i you know, and yeah um, so just seen this interesting picture of this guy um with a big tattoo units and a chest. Um any idea i would just have to means is yes. I see it says son, well, hes probably some kind of nazi and ill say i dont, this is a common thing amongst baggers socials. Yes, there are some. So do you have um is them a phobic believes in . I dont think they care if they fight in muslim countries or anywhere else. They started out fighting an orthodox ukraine and that didnt seem to matter. I dont think religion is the main thing here. The jews, news, news, news, news, world news was to be an option. What was it that attracted you to the organization . Didnt give money. What do you mean . Yeah, i was a boy on the number to catch to, but i had already been a volunteer fighter and done boss in ukraine able to go then you dont mind to keep away in the i no longer believe in the romance of war as to the quick lane not i knew the reality, so get onto the website. Yeah. And i just needed the money to junior, which thats good. We, when did the talk about going to libya start, did you believe that was going to show we started talking about it early on. Whenever theres some kind of armed conflict, wagner soldiers talk about it. Luckily, im not sure and go, you could go to this one. That could be one for us. I wouldnt go to the polluted i would the door. But almost as cars are starting to get a, its a contract at the getting every contract in every country means money. Yes. And you have to come in without a contract . No money. So did you do that or what the pricing to be . The minimum, how many wagner people were deployed in libya . We lived, i know about 2. 00 units, and they were replaced by another to me. I knew about them. So if you have some tubs of law, school, how many, many union members, i dont know exactly around a 1000, i seem to get the some good with of getting into these each i so thats what a i some, i have a tablet that we got from one of the wagner locations on my uh, equipment, and on a month to buy them, their forces are in rid. Yours are in blue. Let me see how the i was stationed here the 2nd time the river wrong. And when you were stationed there . Yes, 50 the enemy knew precisely where you were or how does that deal with them . Are there any . Uh so its a strange feeling to think that they tracked all our movements obviously already been well enough for them to come to me to find out if that was the wagner position. Wed located whether this is one of our positions and thats partners the others and they couldnt play the kennels here for fun or the fence a trench, anything in advance, or how are they able to locate you is so precisely and go to the doctor and they monitored us with small drones, the home number 5 in front of me identify and some of the wagner menu were fighting. Would you like to know who they were . Their name is on the pictures as not home. Oh, so i dont of the ticket. So the, the, this is one of the point saved on the tablet thats, its named after one of them in municipal part of this called metal or so that was our position. And then an estimate of cameron, who are his full name is said, or to tell can i was born in 1984 which makes in on 37 about that i think the center as a sort of thats his picture. This is one of the guys who were fighting on you and see what it feels weird about as much older than you send them before are these are supposed to sure our guys are 21 years old. So thats a huge difference, that it can be a miami effects of where the and boost it says that it means that they were fighting well trained russians all older than 30 and then and no can as close to the man and i for one who mount imagine what the battles would have been like if our people had been the same age. Most of you keep canyon and i said, hey, cool, the discussion of go get with you, maam. You have to study. I served for a long time in the organization in syria for going to us and these get them when you, when the Libya Campaign started envelope, i didnt want to take as far as letting you does a not in syria, so many but, and definitely not in libya vulnerability, the least, you know, just well, i took part in the storming of palmera, virginia and youve to meet the liberation of the oil fields score because how many of them died. And im always glad you asked me too many we you know, put up the numbers. Ok. We know that one of their primary re minutes was to protect the primary tow mirror area. That area is really the parts of oil and Gas Production in, in syria. We saw spreadsheets with, you know, millions and millions of roubles being transferred in exchange for providing infrastructure, security and perimeter, security and securing the oil and gas facilities. And the wagner group would get a portion of the take from, from the production. Basically, the draft of the contract became public in early 2018. The 2 partners were allegedly, the Syrian Government and a Russian Company, arrow ponies. The Russian Company not only appear to profit from the gas and oil production, but it was also apparently connected to the wagner group in libya. Whats been at stake there are, you know, both oil um delivery from the ports as well as Gas Production facilities in that sort of been gauzy area. And then, you know, going, you know, south and east word were haft are, is, is prevalent. The wagner mercenaries are sought to have taken up positions and key libyan oil fields. After the assault on tripoli, a contorted note. What it means is that 3 statues honor the wagner brooks, comfortably play music. One shows a soldier protecting a childs is the difference. The artists have been honest with yeah, and thats the soldier would be protecting an oil the platform that wont move to move with that. I mean, the sort of general, how do i look at all of this guns . Most people say, well, many serious crimes committed during the civil war to be many were forced out of the system to household. I mean, given the 340 was under siege, the people were severely impacted us mentally and financially as outcome. The homes were destroyed. Well that positions stone and theres many died in this will approach children and women when shes at email that she has to go, ive spoken to missionaries committed a heinous crime against a family in espia says 3 of us, of them on the flat, that one should be in september. We were in this house and it has to be on september 23rd 2019. So it was 3 oclock in the afternoon on friday. As of right now, we were about to go back to our other farm popular. We met an armed group on the road and they started shooting in the air. This is all an image ma am. And 6 or 7 mercenaries entered the house and they were foreigners, and it was clear they were from the wagner group. Lip soon. Uh they put hoods over our heads, but we could still see a little that can know you and mr. Help you out a couple. They put us in a car, a nissan or a suzuki. And then they took us to cause theres been garcia or the phone and it goes to the shift residents secretly film the videos that showed the faces of loc, now mercenaries and libya, for the 1st time on the side of the whole us at 5 or 6 am they put us in the back of the nissan of then they took us to the neighbors house. And how is it i it had an out building and its 6. Am they lined us up their side by side . When it went to what was vision i was at one end, im sure what about numbers, but when one of them drew his gun home can and i knew he was going to shoot. That must have this that. How does that mean . If it a few nights cell and pretended to be dead, but had its been months mine as soon as well and the muslims, it was dark and i looked kind of some stuff. The family was lined up along this goals, and im going to tell you that some of the so lets see if this is where the wagner man committed their crime. Got definitely been hickey. I waited about 5 minutes until they left things out the room and i heard the car and leaving so yeah, thats either too much of them to have what is my father and brother and brother in law were all dead. How does that have to . Can you describe any of the people who fired at you want to find the know so what i look at that on a so i sort of had this one was outside the supermarket in this be a the show was involved and its not like enough. And its got heavy. Well, you know, not him, but a similar type image. My one of them is from the far east. Stuff from the far east. Yes. From other words im sort of could you recognize him . Yes i it is the same. Do you recognize him . Thats him ness and stuff. Are they so when did he have the same hair cut . Next . Yes. What scientists are you and not his name is will i be made on donald . What are your aliases . My alias is vodka. Readings to my wife, my mother and my daughter, and my friends and the republican for out you when it seems, but its more of a good that he was born in 1978 and then move. His code name is rocca. See, he was in syria and, and libya the at the was accused of killing prisoners will be of a 1000000000. He was allegedly involved in the execution of ukrainian soldiers. Could i ask william, thats a little issue. Ukrainian activists are tracking wagner mercenaries who font in Eastern Ukraine weve. Ive never mentioned that since we believe we wouldnt have us to complain. Theyve identified his last known location of seen as north africa, nobela cuts, cable it the save it in there. Often it comes with anthem, but this is disputed by voc as friends on social media. I think sadly, you will come and do it. Of course welcome to me. Believe you they say hes alive and well at home in body, etc. I dont know where to is always that all we we were unable to contact me and done of the do you have to keep it, does it just look, i mean, is that the tech issue president Center Recently the 2000 involved in a mess and raise were in libya, miami, uh no, you want me to go uh like a company box enough. She says, i mean you have russian citizens are there, then theyre not acting on the orders of the russian state. And theyre not getting money from the russian state. You believe here, its almost like a little though i talk a little so you can ask protein as many questions as you would like to use for the weve heard many answers, but nothing makes sense. I hear its clear that without the state supports of a company like that could never exist outside of not, for example, like when youve got personnel and equipment being transported in defense, ministry, plains, use some of or in russian navy cargo planes to syria. For example, the cd, the, the, something that the uh, florida machine the libyan army attract wagner positions and saw that a dean south of tripoli in february 2020. The Government Forces received military support from turkey, which helped to turn the tide against wagner. The group had been trying to find fresh supplies. The, these are the requests for military equipment. They were sent just a week after president putin denied supporting russian mercenaries in libya. The the, the 1st thing its immediately obvious. Having had to look at this equipment request list is that now primarily russian manufactured and produced weapons. These are not weapons of easily available ass on the open market. The for the 272, they are ordering has probably been upgraded. I wouldnt say sites with yeah, its probably got at least some of the latest equipment on it. This isnt a unit that is content to go into the field with secondary to equipment. If there was one type of weapon that jumps out to you as probably the most advanced thing, or, you know, the new point of view, the most interesting, why would it be . Theres one piece of equipment that stands out here and its a particular right of the state to deal. And that radars task will be to collide penalize electronic signals intelligence over a much wider area. So that kind of leads one to assess that parts of this unit may well be feeding intelligence fading electronic intelligence up to a higher level. Who do you think that might be for in order to be able to approve this kind of with me is obviously someone well connected, hire either politically or militarily within the bag in a group. And clearly some of them with extremely good access. And my interpretation to the russian government the, to do these look like genuine documents, independent. Thats absolutely no doubt about a couple of the, you know, who signed this 9 is the code name for mr. Wagner or mr. Who can, who can himself and the imagery in was once part of a Russian Special forces unit. His code name, wagner. Because of his admiration for the nazis who appropriated the music of the german composer. The boat can, is thought to be the founder and commander of the wagner group. Theres because got to, heres a clue. Come find the company, abriel police, and the most of it was active in Oil Producing areas and syria. Seen this or did you do this . So this information is about Radio Communication equipment, boston battle. I had that as piece and these are receipts for radios made out by field commanders who took part in the attack on tripoli is going to get you to move one of the media reports, link police to business, man. Youve got any precaution goals and them. Hes known the russian president Vladimir Putin for a long time. They did some of the media call them pollutants. Chef. Even zillow gave me those simple, but im the moscow, november 2018. The footage of general half cars visit to the Russian Defense ministry. The among those present the you have guinea, pre goes the flyer. Thank you for supporting the libyan people. And for your a in our fight against terrorism, the general hosta launched his assault on tripoli just 5 months later. I so youre getting for gordon is a well known Russian Oligarch who for many, many years was very close to the put in routine. But he is under sanction now by the united states. And so are his businesses the pacific able to ship these documents are addressed to a general director. Who could that be the most . And with the most, i think the general director is you have any per goshen. We applied for the new list . Thats interesting. Well, the thing here, but i sure if theyre writing to the general director, the goshen is a business man. He runs restaurants on you know what they need to pay for the steam commute, but here they say they need tanks, dont they seem as well. But the thing i forgot its up to that means that the russian army is a serious organization. And to get a tank, you have to at least negotiate with someone as high as a general director. So its like, you know, theres like the minimum of a regular, a company commander. It cant just go and pick up a tank whenever he needs one rope. Like im one of the parties that talked his name will move a precaution. Can you help me . I think so, theyre not just writing these letters for funding, the worst of what they want to tax on the ability to quote, to ordinary soldiers, say about precaution, with the cook dislike and harry potter, where no one is allowed to say the name voldemort will email its a taboo subject. Its better not to mention it to him, a lights, or you might end up in a metal box with a messed up face for 2 weeks that you go to this video and im convenient. It sounds good to me. Its only because you goes to the bottom, you didnt use it in the heat and a metal container. And so with a messed up face. If you have any pre goals and spokesman denies any connection between pre goshen and Everett Police as well as any human rights abuses committed by russian citizens in libya at 11 15 am. This mornings here, new un headquarters and geneva, the 2 libyan delegations. Signs a complete country wide and permanent cease fire agreement with immediate effect. The parties agreed that all military units and armed groups on the front lines shall return to their camp. The shelby, accompanied by the departure of all mercenaries and foreign fighters from all libyan territories. Within a maximum period of 3 months from today. So so, so, so, so, so our other says, all the units have left their mark on tripoli in the form of minds and booby traps the words danger mines are written on this wall. Well yeah, an arrow shows where they are logging in on that wall. There. At least 3 children have died in this neighborhood of 3 children from that up for the yes, from families that came back to how to get closer to mines. Youre always worried that you could lose someone. You dont have them in the reports, say thousands of foreign fighters remain in libya, including members of the wagner group. The a hey, joy ride the guides know the way around. Is strictly scientific trip to some pretty key places. Curiosity is we tried tomorrow today instead of see minutes on d. W. Knew whether producing new hi, my name is something that you meet. The gentleman tells us about the differences between germany under the home country in the us, in the bureau mass in 90 minutes on d. W. 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