Transcripts For DW Mothers 20240704

Stuff somebody who was sick when im and sometimes you to know i found a tube and m. C. It would be gilbert, the fox, and im on the board to screen this. Im going to shift position positions. My name is, im dr. Stephanie van. And im head of Financial Reporting at diamond mobility. Lets see. I can spend up the time dr. Katty and, and im co founder and co managing director of the she and its been, im working you of the bank to a foundation. Im managing director of tinge group head. Its marketing for a Health Insurance company. I have it for a 150 employees and to one to 4 children. Its been 9. Im 39 and have 3 children. My have 2 children is i have 5 children since cannot win. I have a daughter that i have 2 children, a daughter and the next stands on the lake. The commission by, oh is knew id be a working mom working mom. I just have just when i told them i was right. And then they said you trying to, everyone is bring in. How many more children do you want of cold to have to be the place is i didnt take a single day of parental leave. I give a tone, we threats and existing structures, the scripts them and break the rooms and all said, i am the misfortune. Much of wasnt an option, i think in to so i was worried about being judge times that people would say, i didnt put my time fast. They said that took courage the, [000 00 00;00] the students. But also, i guess im really around 5 am 12 because i really need to make this noise. And the only way for me to incorporate exercise into my schedule is to head out in the morning. Otherwise something always ends up getting in the way that its been like a for a junk. Thats how i get to the doctor is. So thats usually a bit before 6. Im the office. I usually run around 5 or 6 kilometers present. Then i feel better if im ready for whatever my work day will bring on it. I feel grounded, and i thought about what needs doing a set priorities about and what my day will look like. A couple of assistance on my mom. Its mindy mind on monday mind. Im head of gynecology until districts. That vehicle is to victoria hospice in berlin and i have 5 children since kinda the. Yeah, definitely dont look very unique and leave earlier in the afternoon than most normal department chest. Otherwise, i wouldnt say my children, the tool and to finish really not the show, but especially when it comes to a quantity which make real strength. I think the 20 or 25 young women have a feeling of equality and fine launch. Thats true, and thats good panelists should come the goals they mutual changes, having what they have children suddenly find themselves of the room back to the kind of role they sold a month as old grandmothers take on and become which they never had imagined for themselves through either the also by foot civic instructional spanish im responding to feeling and so and then i want to change the rules of the game. So its easier for my daughters feeling as part of the this is philip, this is, this is for the business. So the house, how um, wonder at the being a full time housewife that somebody or i cant really identify ways i wish they are it. And if its the income he loved being a time my daughter estimate for the normal 100 percent. Nice to not put send elastic a business and i find asked in smallways 26 when i took my 1st management job, we use the i was the youngest on the team. It was a relatively diverse chain, but they when middle men and women and i always knew i wanted children, but it was low my off at that point that my son invites, ive done it depends on, on sandra. Im a manager for an Energy Business which has a team of 46 people, but my daughter was 2 an odd. Yeah. The good man, even i never wanted to put the brakes to my 3 a to have a family who from egypt lot on the spot can i always you over the do posted once you can see how it goes, why we spend advocates the. Ringback i get a just before 6 to wait the children, we get the school bags ready the night before. My husband makes the sandwiches and i get the children have bad multiple times on the bus to come. That was being caught. And gala, im having got out. I am see the Vice President has a charge to telecom and i have 4 children. Hello, lovely to hear your voice. And i just wanted to check that everything worked out this way. I need to have to show my counselor from a just one thing. Can you take a look . The daycare rang and wants to set up a meeting about katie installed to renew from tedium. As soon as of monday to teen, in a few minutes to let me move to my routine. When i arrive, i called to make sure that everything went smoothly home. My son has a math test today what this was, hell do grade. Some of them was an easy little math with and send them up if we took the test. Didnt want to start this. I handled mondays and fridays. My husband does wednesdays and thursdays tuesdays we have us to test so that we can both work late. So for somebody, leave it about that. How much is the middle of this is sufficient for 5 to is to seek for my daughter. Its been, ive been working here since 2004. Im a bishop and ive got to tell the nations, but also skills sort of putting this has been involved with this kind of present as my early thirtys was super stretched to involve them very simply because i thought i had to do it one step at a time then i realized i knows and your child bearing is a to show for that. So you have to find a different way to combine things under the form. Given the so convenience dont have to disconnect until that deductible is off of and then it doesnt, doesnt live still the same process, the distribution now between the high on children i want to korea and i can make it work. So mitch might, you might, i always knew id be a working mom working mom as little just to see my child in the career. I always knew i wanted to go and delete and in line i flushed and them and how on dpi safety. So a woman is around food hill, so whos been running for leadership role always has that full back with the bosses think she might have kids and disappeared. And alice could springs based on my google, i became them of the late a thomas 40, the full that i did sometimes think i dont think now is not a good time. Its possible the i forget when we decided to have a child, i was in the middle management, find some image of a management and mother i and this as a deluxe is too much a good time to finish cutting, fly in the system. When i became pregnant dot, i 1st went to my boss, my direct supervisor fume to talk about how we wanted to proceed by some vivid to that as part of it, as i hoped, hed be happy for me. And that would be on the same page. And for you to be specific and also when i come back afterwards and pick up where we left off for coming and also to some light on the holidays and did his reply was when of course youll be reply. Is it not . And if we go home and has a baby head priorities shift and she might not want to continue in this role to knock on this medicine for that i was or, and i was pretty shocked us in the list. And as my furniture kid, hello, my name is i was surprised by how my co sound has responded to the news. News. It wouldnt be through the acute as though its supposed to shun the soonest. The guy said sign them. And when i told them i was pregnant, they said i have been impulse a you trying to ruin us. It seems when you are finished, ill sort of course as especially towards the end of my pregnancy, when i have them big valley meetings sitting there and those management to meetings with lots of men whom i was surprised to see. How old would some of the men, well, have a significant one, Good Governance and not a good time clicked on because i think it was like they thought, well, shell go on leave and wont come back. I wasnt invited to meetings even when they had to do with my work was my team. I have a toss and hut the i just havent gotten access from the stock. I knew i wanted to stay in my job is going to do some trouble by the end to the honest and to my mind was kind of in suffice to be clicking via the questionnaire on the phone. How do we get from . Im going to, im coming back that are in the and i to everyone from my c i o to the director of Human Resources to the head of the world council. All living phones on, on the back of my suggestion was the interview and external inter manage in terms minutes costs plus i dont know which is what we did and thats how we cover. Doesnt fit inside of the merchandise has helped me my money course. I also asked my husband, how do we want to handle it board and hes questionnaire a lot these as to how do you want to handle . It wouldnt happen to them. Like you said, it was up to me by high school. He said dr. Blatts stay at home for as long as you feel you need to be the franchise to conduct the sign. But i know you get out the tacitly and decide to advise the soul. He says, father, i am. So can you invest in for him . How does he have to always free to make my own decision . It is for support and ups and will just be king. As a vine, we never consider switching role to speed you while a company i go back to work, rush away and he stays the time. And thats awesome. But why not . In all, as soon as i didnt want that to get that might be not for somebodys osman, why they dont take trench under the name or a long and leave. They say i comp time. So theres no one to replace in as much time that kind of thats nice. Mm hm. But somehow thats never true for women. And just because they didnt have my male colleagues would spend too much on parental leaves outside, theyve come back and a short time later, they get to promotions. Because of the car and guns custodian, they never have to wonder what you think a good time or, you know, its hard for us as of music when it comes to mens and womens careers. Children of the dividing line fall and canyon is disconnecting the women, stay home for awhile and then continue to look. And then of course, get ahead of women, the onions, phone for biopsy, and even the 5 that have more experience. Yeah, because they dont lose time finding the here we get in terms of visual to who who attends so youre always trying to share parental leave and oh oh have my husband take some leave up that lesson by then with my last baby i was only out for 2 months more cash for it was hard because i was a Ready Department had i brought my baby to the hospital with me for quite a while. Im for now. Can somebody yeah. Im going to get the house. Okay, for the shop, im a funding to help diesel and one of my friends was retired and she came to the hospital to take care with the baby. And i feel for him like go to surgery, to come back to know if we can come to you to go straight. Because ive heard plenty of stories of people in med and especially mens man. You are discriminated against if they take leave for including please, threats of dismissal bounced off when we get to the when pipeline will have to offer it on my account. And i told his boss about taking parental leave them to they were outraged football phones or yours kind of why didnt i take for him to leave him good question. The semester i didnt need it. I wanted to keep watching a strange that sound chip and i had my baby and a week later i still good by the s and been dont, i just want to see the best my 1st, which is a bit more difficult, but then i put you in a baby carrier and took it every way to the accountant, the lawyer warehouse, but the truck side, the by the municipal for his thats the my supervisor contacted me during leave and said, causing having a departmental meeting. Do you want to come to call me now . When i switch, i said id love to but i have to bring my son to mine so that almost im going to as well. Its about december painting and apartment. She said no problem. I felt that took courage 11 years ago, long something of the thinking and thats how i found myself at work with a 3 months old zone. Im dr. None of that youre finding sure to do with the substrate shop. Then i still felt like i was being seen had, i had to stay in things, so that was inspiring and encouraging the other few to move them to start looks on the end of my pregnancy. I shadowed for a week and then took the results to the board. How we work, why we went just to show he is someone who loves the children, but also loves to work and make a difference of items. And so shes the is and what has been made us well, how much more often is one to me to remind the 12 staff member so shes going to come duty officer to meet that special sofa. The kush edmonton, you know, since you should have asked me if it gets some water from us, i understood the authorities seized me back as soon whos starting to really give us a to move quickly. Because i do need a bit of flexibility because my schedule isnt entirely under my control. So im, theres other players to consider, of course, as you come into some of the cartridge work or felicia player at the tool telling somebody we have a family calendar with all of our appointments, personal and professional, and i think its awesome. So it was my mazda for so my husband could immediately see, oh, kind of car is on a business trip. She has an appointment, and also shes working late for us to come. And he does the same time. I try to be as morgan ice as possible to make it easier to deal with the unexpected daycare is closed childs get sick to see you comp time to everything. Calm, but thats life. But this gives me time to respond. Well, you know, the kids solitude in a sense, puts up instead of took the other one out and got us before the spirit because some sponsored chips might give her a new phone key and get us up to a squarespace. Yeah. Let them mutant to me and that we should side to incidents on call home visit to ok then loma. So im leaving this was the ok. You submitted this region of my more formula for this one, the types of money and thats, thats why thats of interest. I can look and see the informed me seeing a career and family doesnt mean you neglect one of them quite the opposite. You spend a lot of time and energy orchestrating the perfect sign of august. You think of sometimes you want me to spend more time with your child with them and something explosive. Well that i have to deal with them cuz thats when i often reach my live much time and it comes from by the flip side, both parents work full time and you have 2 children and one child gets sick, who goes to thomas and both you and your husband say you cant, we dont want to see thered be a big argument, but its about sticking out your role. And of course i had to fight for space for what i do for me. So it does less is gustavo and defendants. He committed in does it so on the, on the front of say youre in the middle of a meeting. Can you see a cold coming in um, from daycare or sometime. Okay. Step house. Im good and you told your son had a folder on the site ground for unfortunately is some of the thats the moment when youre responsible for 20 or 30 co cuz its a meeting for the and also for your son, i go to the for these to find photos have a v 2 minds on, on to this is fish the, its hard to have to say i come and pick up my child. Im in a meeting in a meeting. I dont know 50 kilometers away to extend. Im not just 5 minutes away. Then the or tough the of the house phone, as i talked to organizations, a lot of challenges organizing your work day so that you have time to take care of your children impact the 20th when youre at work all day and medicine has a lot of meetings take place in the afternoon. I went to the Department Head meetings were between 5 and 7 pm when i 1st took my post, you wonder if i have shift the essence of life assessment right down the walk. I used to sit there and think, well if i have to go home, i dont have times a casual, chit chat, as much as i do enough to my car lucas down to pulling numbers. Come hold on. Let me explain the guns and guns common list to me. The rules of the game are made by hon. A man on the i men who are older and we dont have children will have children. Someone else takes care of must be usually the wife. They dont have to worry about getting dinner on the table or filling the friendship as nothing tush or will they still think whose comfort your sons, who do i am . 20 to 3 should have done most of my work so well go home after 3 or 4 depending to take care of my children. The 55 of my question was well, so no tentative to returning to work full time. Which to me was out of the questionnaire. Schwarzenbach designs a box. Uh cuz he is like my mom sometimes thats all the bad mx. Its under new. She wanted to be at home part time in the beginning to care for aliya. And to be honest, i didnt ask myself in that same question as it was, and i think it would have been really difficult in my position. Um, we know quite that progressive as well because while were talking about combining work and family for women, the conversation isnt quite as far alone when it comes to men and some units of all of them. And that is to disclose one on the slide. A miss on why not, because i dont know if you put the most ardent id say because of history and traditional roles, the boot of its called the script. My company doesnt have a single top manager who works part time and we will manage on the entire side. So maybe they dont think they can make it work. And i think thats too hard stuff to end up loving insights, central funk. And then i went home and has a baby regardless of whether shes a manager of a company, usually ask for something, how do you want to handle things when you come back come part time before how much time nobodys opens up with man. Its going to go to india. I know it would be good if we hold that to think about what we really want. That requires a change. Im thinking across the board. Women and families would have to think about what their ideal scenario would you be . An employee is would have to have the courage to try something on the use of the Health Dental and the 9 big ill be on my laptop. And so i dont suppose it to entire screen, but i know time that i share my departments management position with a ton them top now to my basic model is that we each work 30 hours a week. So 75 percent of a regular full time job about this junk sharing solution was done by my career decision i ever made was best nice because its what made it possible to combine with family 5 is my done on the, to fucking the gun finally, because we still have to figure out how child care and that wasnt so easy. Yeah, that was one of the hurdle. Was that the beginning . The soonest . Im in the big neat gift bomb we applied to 18 different jake is i think its really not as we have to go to interview i flushed elements because we registered on various also the and the like. We had to turn our lives inside our system. It doesnt even know if that did put a damper on things. Phones we still did the baby around have i . Yeah. And be so good. Most kind of the, i know he is on hold on to the mama for the on the, you know, from big miss comes on the items, but i mean, not a 1200 riverside came back as soon supplies this day. Oh oh, i see. So more than once out. Oh yeah, yeah. And ask some clients plus the invitation for the stake. Yes. But we had for earlier was morning sunday. They said that could change our switched off the oscar stopped. That finishes those 10 sizes. So jim and he writes, now you know, lucky to get any spots or tool locked. You cant even really ask yourself, what is the place like which might, is it relates to me and my Child Properties of the concept from you. And so put my can. So it went to apply you electric accent. There were no daycare spots at all in aust, filled in orange to got for children under 3. You know, and i just understand how to ties. They had agreed to work 30 hours a week and had no daycare has enough time to switch on shore. I looked around for childcare and then i met 2 other women in the new subdivision where we lived. Same situation. Um yeah, but you can access it to it. So what happened was, within 2 months, um, we teamed up with instead of a private corporation and hired a childcare with the lender to keep an eye out on how many mines in the end we were 14 women and all on the end of august that was the 1st child care for under 3 year olds and also the one that i nearly could in all sit on the im and some of the bushes we try to establish a daycare in that community owns and where they were a bunch of different stuff out. The name im busy lives and that we kept chasing grove loveseat as of this is because even find a property where you can set up a day, get an a q tech wouldnt and so could map good be in china. Ive seen how important it is to have reliable childcare. Thats true. The key on the bus was, was the ones im wondering what else we even decided where to live based on that. So as to when we 1st looked for daycare and then looking for houses, i knew we needed to optimize. Im used to the, the, the, the, the bus stop getting on fun hobbies. Wonderful. Boost. I did wonder if i was asking too much if she was very loose. When she started the daycare he took, youre gonna laugh. She knock the 8 meals say thats a lot of time away. Out of the summer, his house, even a year old senior vic fun to house the, the indian movement. Im sometimes i did feel guilty and its good law and i felt like i missed something important, for example, when he learned how to ride his band and spike and he was pretty good on it. And it wasnt, that would be moments device. Me so, but yeah, these are the moments when you realize there are limits of the compatibility of career and family meant in those moments. Im sad more and always leave top off at a script in my files. And there were times when i wondered whether i was doing the right thing to stick a big and by my times when i felt torn, that i couldnt concentrate on one thing who was dish dish of im constantly on this and i think of this and the feeling guilty is just part of it from from day one. Im it shut off on the top to end up when my daughter was a teenager, she said to me, youre never here anyway. Im going to, its moments like that that make you think oh, i buy something to think that when you noticed its working and going well, i mean i had this also good for me and i season. Yeah. If you dont, i think she sense is that and it works. Um, so the limited amount of how to read my not as enough more when i picked her up off the daycare. I spend about 4 hours with her, sometimes maybe half an hour left the ground about 4 hours ago with a roundabout fusion. We spend the rest of the day together doing something fun, the goldman, whatever. Were up to a loaner on congress to apply this gun stuff. And if theres a problem, the children come 1st form. Thats very important to have this digging into like as long as they know that theyre fine. Come, then you can say no, sorry, right now i have to work out. Im is this visitors. But if you really need something and im here for you and customer this off as might have talked, i gave them it. I my daughter handles it pretty well, naturally is good enough for us. There are times when she needs me more and demands more on the document. My mind i basically its completely normal for mama to go to work foundational. My does my, my job, i think infinity knows im vastly so confusing. Ill wait in the evening. He comes and says mama, i know youre always best to me and i say you can come to me with anything. I love to have. Of course, not always for any time, thats what we do say with anything. If i had to own in my private life, i do sometimes get the scenes peoples thoughts who assistance that were going on here. Dont you love your child . Things like that. So which ones are boy i said, the class, the ones on when we were trying to set up a daycare. We also went to the local council mind if he came a real political issue on that as a struggle, the mental, im older man on the counselor, i said to us, if youre going to have children stay home and take care of them, i could not in my reply was, well, i didnt have these children all by myself to canada. Certainly try lineup in non conduct. Got that will be too late and the daycare because they said, how can you raise a child if you cant even be flexible without a point in the building to find him even with the id and couldnt slash on c, a as in max. But it was a bit strange to hear from this one, for the, with the jump like this. So i wasnt considered capable of raising the child or to keep costs. Lets see the tighter my, the, my new role. Ill also be on the sheets Advisory Board and the phone so that will be new. Somebody to pick into device every new job is its own. John, you never really know what it will entail and every move upward like that is also challenges. Yeah, i didnt about for the, the other one, i think its on side consorts. He was on parental lead for a number of months and then came back to the company in a high position with very different duties. A lot more responsibility for stopping that has a lot more International Responsibility fund for the buses, media time kind of what i can do is provide insight into the work at the top level, from a variety of different perspectives in her new role on the supervisory board. To go to guns because i dont know if i can answer questions and get her on her way. So you have this. I dont on the often be just giving you the allstate thoughts, its own clubs. Trust that poor thing ties and gibson. It was important to end up liking the size of the buses, buses on sped to, to the front of the buses all the time. It shows look like that. I still dont think its a real opportunity, but you have to approach it with respect even a bit of humidity to this as part of top management, youre in a position of influence. So does that mean less time . Feel family for me . Yeah, i stick with this, it is kind of extend charles, but at the. Ready the day i have to make sure it will get started with him, because as more mazda you also nascar, how do you manage to with the children . I mean, im in the office on never off. Thats what disney fox one boy, sometimes i say, what about my husband . He just said describe what he was also constantly on the road. Hes right, but no one ever called him and osmond because what about your children . And then i see it, me a hard, an opportunity even today when i say im traveling for work or working on an exciting project. People often ask me a comment about your child to lease the fargo and best must the, with the kids. And then i say they usually just locker in the basement with some folks. They invest the estimates the piece for deals as the parents were teen my husband. Often he is things like, well, with that woman on the side with her emissions, youre going to have to take back seats. Those kinds of comments does that you meant to of me on the other side. I also get comments like causing what is your childs crying, and youll notice that my child has a solve a to list of the comments on just directed at me, my husband and, and how we organize our family. Theres always judgment on investment. What makes a good mazda a good father . Good caramels. Yeah, thats like some students and doesnt know that you do feel guilty before, especially at fast because thats the general. And its wanted somebody to, to said, moment why my was the last. I want to get picked up from daycare. I had to explain to, to parents both enjoy working. I didnt get all the life we had to get us out to them because of leaving the relieving the books of deals so well. Good, full time. I did worry that people would judge me because he studied just kinda swim, say that i didnt put my children fast now. She said, so it just didnt that i put my own needs on the same level is last. Lets design yalls collection. Who is it that took courage as ive moved to for the docs and alcoholism and my heart, it helps to have women friends and working mothers to talk to. I was toast. And when you hear that women who work less and spend more time at home, have their own problems, you realize you just have to do whats right for you. Thats fine and begin was wasnt always trying to find that happy medium between family and books. The sit was that and thats success. When we managed to bring my 2 sides into harmony height, so then we can sleep well at night. Have come down the dusky and elephant. Mm hm. Yeah. Okay. Oh oh. Oh oh, this is, this is not, its in speed. Could you not the system us or this to check . Just the final check, looking through emails, the agenda for tomorrow. I miss anything, but it looks good at the fusion. This dilemma is happy to set to can working this out. It was short on time i usually they do with the arch and matches rather than the important one. And then having a network is essential, feel, korea, it gives you support and encouragement and inspiration and ideas for problem solving. Well, you dont have to do it on your own based on the line and lose the promotions. What can be so much like was booked for 7 30 tomorrow morning, captains for me, but my husband has to be at the office with an 8 tomorrow generations. So im flying home to nearly all the gifts from my children are part of the package. As ive grown and matured so much because systems and theyve made me who i am in the cold, my children arent an obstacle to my career. Ive grown along with my children. And so was my career in mentioned them on the paper. Im come shake. You did the school funk, just find me. Sounds professionally exclusive, that i think is missing. Yeah. And i things not in front of my name is one of the front of mental issue because my goal is to make decisions deliberately and try them. For example, i like to high a mothers big because i knows that they faced the same challenges, but the only day in the shop. Ill leave a message on done. Im very busy has been sent out and they have to get the work done by the end of the day. Were going to the to satisfy. Im listening so often on the demo or efficiency thats sort of the, the mention of fits into all right. And then im coming along with my question issue and logging offer. She offers you able to communicate to the community. Okay. Yeah, thank you. Mm hm. This sam jones sauce last 3 months in the email as well. Ill take another look to my emails, and if everythings under control and hell go home. Im planning to Bank Something with the children this evening thinking uh the, ill shoot it off. Then if it came down to me and id rather hire a 150. 00, even if she slightly less qualified on paid, people grow with their responsibilities and you have my choice would be to support someone who really needs that supporting society strongly to needs people who support women who do support from others until we reach equality. And we were a long way from that to unfortunately same items have the video thing, but for the occasion starts with the role models. Usually we dont service role models, how well our daughters knew whats past. Alice murphy, my inclusive, what is my greatest hope is that one day well have mothers in the workforce by monday it will be totally normalized for them to say from time to time. Sorry, i have to leave this meeting because i have to go pick up my daughter. Well, my son i just came on to talk to to see was even more than that. So i talked to him mentors say that to him off one man on the fact to, to help me off cuz that ive always said that im not joining your supervisor, people just the status to be the token woman for the probably like 40 hours bottom for this type of music and spice, im doing this for my goal. So mine and tossed down by tv says that it will be different by the mountain thats i get as im the phone as agents and my life is richer for it. So i shall, i cant imagine my life without my childrens or my job. One of my trouble. Most companies makes my life more complete, having those solely caring for the children. When it works in a call. I need the challenge foldable. I my baby, my life is definitely enriched and it makes me happy. What more is that . Thats how it should be. Yeah, thats true. The entered the conflict. How rome did you have any promotion really go in his ledger uprising. My guess is to be done. Complet sonya is russian investigative journalist and Security Services expert. 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