Millionaire, for the foundation, the researches africas problems and rewards those who try to sol, so see ever lose faith in africa. The feedbacks in some countries, unfortunately, one of them is my country. But we, we were to find a way for one of the core of africas problems. He says is by governance. And why is it still so prevalent . How was it that African Leaders voted themselves immunity . From prosecution to the most serious crimes. And whats behind the refuse or some states to condemn most goes invasion of ukraine. Is it paid back for the rows of colonial, occupies the mo most welcome to come pick some. Thanks, dave. Us, youve tried so many years to promote a governance in africa, in some countries youve had some success, but the violence never seems to go away. And su, don, the country of your bus decades of fighting. Another killing has begun again and honest. How personal is this conflict to you . Is very best at stan at work and ill be able to have this. Ive done this. And what we have here is 2 sides to this. Fighting a button in an hour capital each side wants power and was power comes financial. This was, this is instead of the story and this is story of photos. Yes, i made it to the cause is essentially old story. Unfortunately, and enough is enough for all those guys, despite the treasures by both sides to respect humanitarian principles, that hasnt been the slightest effort to avoid civilian casualties. Why is it okay . Absolutely. I dont see the shift. Each of them think they can somehow, when this dont, they cannot be a were not here. They cannot be, will not only lose us ever this find this losing do so that these people are losing. The little infrastructure we have is being destroyed. Detective really isnt a mess. And most civilians are buying them. Sold. Yes. Its, it is, it is very said, do you ever lose faith in africa . No. Despite to this thats going on. Yeah. Thats when can 3 out of 54 guns according to on ethics. In the last, over the last 10 years, you know, we would use an index, somebody, you have governance in africa. The majority of episodes of applicants living in a bit of government countries that 10 years ago. So are moving forward. Thats it backs in some countries. Unfortunately, one of them is my country. But we, we would find a way for what but this conflict is youve also said is taking place against the really dismal tapestry of backsliding. Democracy as the number of states, bad governments. Youve quoted africas own goal. And you said we are responsible for how much of africa shit is your sense of responsibility for this . We okay. This the funding governor, governor to z d. I bought a number of, of, of deliverables. One of them of course, is human rice delivery. A bunch of patient is its not, i dont have boxes, you know, corner me then is a human developments and the security and the picture, the big jump is really mix. Yes. Of course, over the last 10 years, i forgot made the point of progress in the area of introspection and human development, vintage occasional based on handbook non secured. No security little of little, is going down and actually why, why is the connection between the 2 . That the problem is marginalization of minorities and sometimes the its, its intrusion, a creative assessment. A didnt have also extend the factors like Climate Change with you end up with conflicts between they have those of the farmers. And if thats not to manage, it ends up. Its a basic, a complex like having in the for i didnt have a criminal legit on it, but she has been using malicious to sort out the probably the end up and see 100000 people get. So it is, it, is, it mismanagement also of Natural Disaster habiting because of climate. Thats one in you. You said earlier this year we started to see qu data, which we saw it was something in the past. We started to see this phenomena of a strong man. Its something we need to fight back against. How do you fight these so called strong men who are entrenched in the countries across south africa, protected sometimes by foreign policy, often by criminal games that kill for the sake of it. How. How do you fight back . You can see, i think young young people are looking at whats having them comfortable. Well, had a strong binder and so then for the test he is in today shed general, but she was infection about 430 is created for this military organizational. Now theres no time off for him to have an army. He couldnt get into the support forces and called him him, might be, you know, and just have that for him at the is my board section. And the, the Collision Center just has an army. His party has him an issue. He had all the stuff which is just kind of kind of just course phillips he is hit the same kids who grew up on the hes or those are the guys were dying, is a city for them. Oh gosh, that this is a and b will will give us whole because they will not accept the soldier. They would not accept at tyler and he would not accept the death of ships and you went to just city for 3, it is now green solution. So then, because the young people would not accept this or just you, you say, you say that you say that, but thats one of the more depressing by products of conflict and back governance is that africans are showing increasing tolerance for the role of military and politics. According to Afro Barometer report last month, that view is particularly strongly mentally young people 18 to 35 year old. After a barometer reported that over the last decade, opposition to military rule has declined significantly. Now a slim majority, theres a majority, is willing to accept military intervention if elected officials abuse the past that has to be dangerous for them. Of course, at least it is dangerous. And the problem is you take guinea for example, we have to have a difficulty abusing fall off his power and then trying to deal with the constitution someplace the, the, the, the position im fed and a guy who was the democrat before getting follow didnt power gets to his head and now being data. When electrical came again, is this guy you understand why people say all as wonderful, good today to for him. So down, know, 3, this important committed to the cool happy to get rid of the really a corner of civilian who really abusing is the constitution end up losing his body if uh yeah, if they can get rid of some but then, but then the problem is you are, you are a blessing, the song was a different, i mean that, that is, that it doesnt look like that. Thats why i, i, us, people need to live that there is lives in los, to, to seek the 4 of the bad z thats. Its also important to know what youre going for and this is that, is it sort of ended up mid support. Getting ready to cool again, is that somebody african looks tim, tim, about about the, the, the, the strong men. Unfortunately, this is something we can passion of work. Look only in africa. Our guys in africa, lou cut out. And the c o just string, been strong, mean all about the place. You know, and we have something that states will have delta t last. Russia will have china web for the beans. What. How many strong men of them we see this fraction of a strong board is, is coming back again. One of the best i was, i look at this and say all that is wonderful when it comes to do like, are already about why i cannot be like to look at why cannot be like this is a time for strong man, unfortunately. And we need to wake up to that is not an african phenomenon. Its a global warming. Id like to talk back and go back to the bottom of the sustain concussions done at the moment um, one to violence according to the un, which should both sides. Trump cling on humanitarian, go back in 2010. The New York Times bureau chief, east africa reported on how come back in africa had moved from soldier verse a soldier to soldier versus civilian the most of acid. Despite, as he said, what bevels with the cause, they would predators, and for them, tara became not just a means, but an end. To what extent is that still the case . It is, it is unfortunately, paper that a number come with some countries of last week. Ill have seen like a blank was in the list in the last few years. Unfortunately, we thought we finished. Im thought that was you cool. You know this era and to 76, these of seventies where every morning we used to have a course im living. I think we thought that this finished unfortunate is coming back and something we need to be careful about this then that game is an extra is a question. I mean, i know it is, is today is to say this, but in all honesty, do we need armies in africa. Why do we need it . What does the job of items the item is suppose to protect your board . Who is it and the african category . So i think i dont have applicant categories to, to have any, was it between african countries . I dont record any. This is why you lose the arms whos been though, is this money to get those guys, bags and guns an arrow blades. When i want the one to come on to that and yeah, im in a moment to to i, i just, i dont think we need it. It is all nice and those guys has been goals as many of them. And then they come much with us with the copy that, i mean, whats his last week . So those government told the Un Human Rights Council that it was basically none of the us business. What was happening inside to done was an internal affair. They said, im a student, these armed forces. So of course of launched attacks, and this strikes intensely populated subsidiaries in the capital is you said it was simply doing the constitutional duty. What do you say to a government like that . Does it make you angry for the hobby bombing its own people in the capital is just doing its constitution, but the government does look at the look of the shipment. What causes those guys government . Its the only government they have. I just it always people just took it by paula by guns. Yeah. Look you lifted that no to drive . Nope. Thats it. But yeah, i mean, those guys just, you know, making themselves lot of shows in general, those on the f i never have active bouncing this while the african states that African Union actually is, is, is suspended. So then thats it. Thats all theyve done. What else comes into . What is the problem is the applicant here that hasnt well just on the bottom me for a long time in which i just started the force of the epic. I knew any i could be finite and should be on. Then it is able to go and deal with all of those claim and as a terrorist and whatever, unfortunately ethic under that hasnt, hasnt good. It has plenty of good intentions, doesnt to but the 2003 and i saw the motor power. What, what, what happens asylums with guns by one and 220. Yes. What happens . What . What about the sort of the council for the plastic . I know what about security, because why does the security accounts a i think a lot of people forgotten about the schedule cause is defined by the veto, is that the 5 cause, i guess, is by lice. For 40 is the whole lovely order is in a mess. The whole public, the whole or the whole world of this, you know, or the global instruction. I miss. You create accounts. It is important. Cannot do anything. Yeah. For, can you ask me this . This doesnt have the means to look so they can only accept this. I think hes more on the ridge which of these accounts have kind of even, but so were not seeing much of that. As far as i know the, this is that, did it in fred, this is, i did it. We had a conference 2 weeks ago as we had most of our keywords on the old guys in the conference and was clear what the stand ones you want to do. That if its, if it is closer to, to see what i can look if its, but its on obedient and whats going on for them. Shift for you have access all over the come to the you have you talk to either the generals, the causing this concept and so down at the moment i know i, i dont have enough Common Ground even to start the conversation. I believe was those guys have given us the should it allow me to take . Will they of i to i whole then i hope so. Whats the, whats the chance of it was one day it would come one day look. But she had ended up in prison. I live and says, oh what . But, but she understood and nobody could touch him. He wasnt pretty sure what happened to him. Im excited about what happened to african quotes, pushing for african solutions, and offering african accountability. What happened to that i thought from guinea in Central African republic, where the trial, i think is important to support the i. C. I o projected to those that came through blairs eyes as he was an applicant court. So i dont think that was the right decision actually. And again, you look at the way that quote was good you too, which is which is cannot. It cannot, but its cute but is it is yes, i gave one cells in the other 2 for me to go back here. So i asked, i said, why is i yeah. Is this going to end up really was getting taxi drivers and official men, but theyre not my good. Its got those that wire to the special court. It, it just, it city. It just some visits wants to be effective sense from vice receipts. And that was a bundle of what to do. Im sorry about that. So then no quick fixes for this was done thats going on and it will spread to the region, so maybe spread to well west stuff. What has that . What about south sudan . Is that next . Okay, is this a Different Institution so, so that ive come to it, but i think we cannot give up, then well have to deal with it quickly before the fire splits. Fluid was all these will continue to hold. What i mean as it is very encouraging to see United States is involved. So you gotta be as involved, both of them factors show stuff, definitely can you and you have this in the form and yeah, it does involve the cost is invalid. So our messages, yeah, most of those guys would have that be conference and that will be our foundation. I know those guys was there and the message to everybody is we need to speak with one voice now or the voice or do you never can. So this was one voice, and we need to ensure that we would this fire out, we need to buy and any x most of our through the division of death. And we need to, to be able to look either we have or where to go often. You so you talked earlier about foreign armies being in african countries. I think there are 13 for an armies actually at the moment in various african countries. How healthy do you think it is for africans to, to welcome in rushes. Most of the group, of course, have wagner, for instance, notorious in ukraine and not expanding its footprint and the tops of students on acceptable. And youll notice who invited them medical visits in the number of western countries. This being comes to nation, that some african countries have been ambivalent to, in the case of south africa, mutual over russias invasion of ukraine. Is this payback for the west for them, for the wrongs of the colonial era is that while i know the rule is the community that deputies deflect, judge illusion, america is usually called for the a, a good gaming, the violation of the silver and t. But why does i can see, have you create of your claim . And many African People said, excuse me. What did america do . Any other was that could be a good was that not breach of security . So over the over lots of countries. So why did they condemn both but from us to woods, this is a new show for what was a little bit media on lice, i think you had mentioned, which is what is the new ocean because your money object it to the invasion of that i what is wrong for us to was is it is usually because any excuse me, you have cable, correct. That is neutral, really the side, the as it is kind of use your boy. I that is, it is i the collection of rules or those you can me out of the rooms only applies to russia, not us. Lets not be, hey book. This is appropriate. This is to a problem we need to look at the matter sometimes relies, what do we say and what you do, what happens in libya would on brooks is company. We never would have to get them again. Is that acceptable . What do you make . Look, im not going to be honest, im dealing with this stuff. So it looked like the width is in the why it on . Or romantic . Nobody side. Okay, so, so dont lift. You dont lift. You have other people and say, you look icon them. I think it is a problem. Ill acceptable for russia to evade euclid. And theres no question, but in the same place im condemned. American envision of over that act because this is, is equivalence. And we need to remember that, i just hope that people, when you talk about the natural rules, this applies to everybody. You know, exceptionally is what we bring. What do you make of americas charge . Last week that south africa had loaded onto a sanctioned russian freighter . If you make of that chart i, im really confused exactly as to why the bus at abileneisd. But we only have south africas version for saying he apologized that he didnt know that. What was your tell you didnt apologize in public. Oh, i saw a guy who wrote that in bbc website actually that he didnt, i know south africa says he apologize to that but, but then they denied the judge. But when it, when they did to not the wording was on big us. They said, we didnt approve any arms to russia. It wasnt sanctioned or approved by us. I suggest that was something to some place that i played with would. Im afraid that a se advocate has a number of races i think and where is easy . Where is the government . Uh, i think in c, broberg we is losing its, its a grip on power effectively as it some somewhere today that is possible that the, for the, even though that we have of what happens. They cannot admit that because they say ok, this is terrible if hes at with as hes in light, is also terrible. Ive that made a comfortable song. I was also a medical reports now a more accurate exam before. Uh i mean, drink act. It has a web as of mazda, of a section on the, which is became obvious actually. But during the throat in the world, the managers have been very accurate and they bought it. So i did it well, its not, and i dont know what does to, so what happened there, but i notice the intro to innovation of governance in south africa. I was big public about this, right . In the time we have left, we talked a lot about what african countries have or havent done. What do you, what the west fate briefly, what do you want the west to to 5. I think i think the west need really do we have in a much with our way look at what is happening here. Go with the game. I dont have the big problem or you itll be under the last 20. Youll be at least an applicant lease that was signed and that was published in 50. Nobody save on this. Everybody says applicant the support we need to 100000000. 00 budget and then nothing happens. Good with but no the, its nothing done. Then we will hold, Holding Coffee next to the nationalist. And the other thing, the guys, even our heads up is the support. Nothing a day. And that was the, the bad behavior tv. But at this job, because then then well see if im this everybody see if they know that. So what im doing gauge now for the summit, 60 you africa. So yeah, thats what this you have to confirm. It was good it, but you can see the different color. Thats very important. Look at the after. Got that. So theres no. Judy cover it. 2300. 00 out of sin. Yes, everyone gentlemen. In america, us and, and bridget also seen the f. 23. 00 young dollars. I figured its good. Nothing is any money. Okay. And now does it say, what is happening when you create has a problem . When greece has a financial problem, the fund, will it bank immediately search it out. Now whats happening in zambia, whats happening instead of the other 2 years . Does it act as you want them to apply with that . Um and you want them to come down also on the list it cash and this is find the most do a 100000000000. 00 a 100000000000. 00. They get most of the got well with the Companies Like united pricing and the best pricing and profit. But you know, a lot of shifting and you know that im sick, i just want you to act. And so with these really the best of the heavy im so my friends of the list is a bit out of what is or the bits of Financial Institution because these Financial Institution, im not said of in this house that dominated by width and most, you know, some ideas on the boards its, its a, theres no voice and the decision institutions from the guys are supposed to be the customer of the clients of this, of these banks. Thats why these banks would focus on greece. Were focusing on your credit, right . But so the lack of what is to that is why is that what the boards that doesnt know, what is, what is that base moyvey and we run out of time. Thank you very much indeed. Signing on topics. Im going to give you his talk to the the, the jackals are coming. A dramatic consequence of Climate Change in romania, the marriage conditions are forcing the predators into towns and villages locals for years to their livelihoods and moms controls toll. But is it too late . 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