Channel is physically and emotionally, very, very lof joy and its this wrong form song for intensive weeks of rehearsals, concerts, and conversations join us as we followed the Creative Process of the symphonic cycle. The be careful with the, with the hearts soon sundays and so spent so long some slides of snuff em. Lets just do it more naturally. Its just, its weird too, thinking too much the im share with already at that data. Co principal, 2nd violin of the mentions team. When he got were in munich and its, its a pleasure to work with. You only have those 3 days of rehearsals and what i love about the way weve set up the orchestra this time is that normally you have the 1st and the 2nd melons on the same side on my left as a group. And this time, we have the 1st right into my left on the 2nd, so on the right there and different other would require a different hosting which, which has some challenges, all sorts of benefits. I think for this to symphonies, its couldnt be better because theres a lot of writing where it goes like that. But it also demands a lot from the principal, 2nd island. I have grown into the position and when i started playing 2nd maryland, i really enjoyed so much that we have really we have the color, we have the pulse, we have to buy the items are not playing with this orchestra because this is we always have the liberty to, to, to take quite a strong theres new colors and everything because rarely does he have one instrument which would be for a couple of words actually has a much, much cleaner pilot bronze. The nose is mixed oil and water color and changes from one to the other. For example, which is night sounds. This is to some of the grades like really like water color. And then he gets to the real emotion of, of oil. The spot is always clarity and theres never to indulge some and i feel that if youre not seeing a lot of people think its all about indulgence. But actually, as you know, the music is written in such a clear way that you cannot lose any moments. 8 the favorite moments mind to hi, lorraine. Im the reason why because you should listen to this 1st learning part is the super romantic theme comes very shiny, the typical brahms. This is for me brompton themselves and then you just explode. Oh, i mean, we know he was always enough. Oh, isnt level. And he couldnt really say its an update is an incomplete law. When unders restoration of impossible on its okay. The she has this da da da da da da da da da da and so forth. And hes already going back and then he goes to the depths of his illness as in german, this longing, i know exploding this most said to me, that sounds great. And also the way your line with the violins pressed by the ins and the view lives just flash. Theres so many disciplines is there, that is super lenses like you, you can taste every nodes and feeling that that comes from extreme desperation in pain. And as i say, she does the southern and she kind of gather sins of bar codes like, okay, now this from, from this keeps keeps thinking, you know, and then this line with a clarinet and its an intimate he just shifts. And i and also his ability on the piano is so clearly seen. I think thats why when you play it, its not so easy because it comes from, its a general general playing versus you cant tell where its heading, whether its going to be c minor, or e flat major. So its like beethoven, lynch. Its evelyn. Is it minor . Or major, not that thats why when youre listening to it, you have a sense that the composer is searching for something. You can only find what theyre looking for in the final movement the semester. So i can share some listings. Thats an for me, the character of the, of, of the 1st woman is, is this struggle, this, this, this trying to get out. Note that, um that the, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that the job im up im up on by that that the, the, the, hes always trying and felt so smart on them is still installing because im at least finished. It doesnt really flow. Oh, it keeps coming to a stand still and has to find a way to flow again to be brought into motion to even get close to the to make. Is this a feeling despite the stuff . Gotta uh, do you gotta just let it be and then the hymans really sweet to any single. So im here with jamie white, the principal, the soonest of the mentions symphonica. And its so great to work with you. Thank you. Likewise. I think his, his use of the bus one is very particular that know often hes a, hes making you being part of the Singing Melody with, with the violence for example, like the beginning of the 2nd movement of this 1st symphony. Tell us about about that. Yeah, i think its a wonderful moment is exactly what we, im what weve talked about and rehearsals as well this week. And these 2 inter movements the 2nd and 3rd and the seconds in particular, more of a long and to last to serve epic symphonic sound. And silent worlds, and im being something much more intimate. Real Chamber Music like a serenade. Something much more and internal and im from child. And so the service and i love at the same problems as music, which is the Chamber Music that we make across the orchestra. Across these, sometimes quite large distances and yet it feels in that moment that i could be sitting in the 1st month, i mean 6. And then the thing is, is gorgeous. Always very sensitive and always really aware of others, which is so nice. Youre looking to make timber music with, with your colleagues that and i see that and thats for me is like, im not throw in so its a joy. Thank you so much. They make it very easy for us and all the things you, the. 2 the, [000 00 00;00] the deans at some asymptotes, and in contrast to the 1st movement, do you have melodies that are very lyrical, you understand them immediately and are carried by the emotion of the solar violin. Also reminded me of beethovens mesa sullenness with the soul, the violin and the benedicts, which problems quotes in the 1st piano concerto, c t, it was a. So perhaps theres a kind of spiritual aspect to the future. It goes up so high here and ends with the solo violin and g sharp in the me so, so let me so i think its the g which floats upwards, almost to having the a good. The mirror image, the defense of lightness, is suddenly there, which was missing and the 1st to, to move the and he was always saying, my music is up so no, its about nothing to find it really funny because it is like i yeah, sure, sure. Your home is your life is all it is everything you lived, this is so clearly that is just to you wouldnt a, its about my feelings, but its exactly, its okay and its, its almost a month the, but its also, are you or i must say. And what youre talking about is made it very clear. You see it very clearly. And then the way that you have also brought so many different voices that i would never hear. Yes. Oh, thats fine. Sorry. You know, so that what i, what i did is thats for me, of course, embarking on a brum cycle, which is something that all the major greatest conductors have done. Everybodys whose name is important, has recorded it. So to think, okay, what do i have to offer and something thats been done so many times. And my approach has been to really just sit with the music, read as much as i can, and listen to no recordings, nothing ive, i havent really listen to anybody. So im just really trying to see what thats telling me. I would love to meet you like what is your love and it would be great as if you would meet from i dont know, i would give him the as possible, but i think people create public persona and we have been very good at creating personalities that we believe are the people, but im not sure that thats really the person. And when i hear the music, this is really something he wrote. And he said, theres not any. This is nothing anybody said about 10 minutes where she said about himself the and what i see is someone course with give you a hug back with. Laugh would be excited to see, you know, and im really trying to push the borders of everything. Hes really walking on the edge and, and trying to see how much can he like pointed to the line opposite in every way. And for that you need to be very brain and got see the so beautiful. Its so beautiful and i think hes always trying to fit into the Central European tradition expectation. I hear that in the music all the time. This both worlds, the are these opposing forces in terms of the ideas and teams. And i said in 2 minutes, and its amazing to see the tea between the european and the dark and obscure Eastern Europe. And so i was amazed how much this took me all the time. I dont really just think that its about landscape shining moments. Beautiful free, its full of spring the i love the fact that this since in a pest control panel, together with problems 1st, because i think it offers more more lightness and more conviviality the country to a lot of the symphonies of the time that were to do with tragedy in faith and struggles, logics age is, is the happy happy piece a check . Does it say again and just relax that question, question question is one of my my, my favorite symphonies and one of the 1st ones ive ever conducted. And um, i think the difficulty of this piece lies in its simplicity. It sounds like like sometimes like childrens music because its very clean to a kidney, a children song or a bird called labels. Theres a very Strong Association with nature and divorce out for me. This is the tour and the birds. And then suddenly the dark sound of the requirements, the, i feel its exactly the opposite of what the Central European music is. And whats his really upbringing is the word that cause the son of a butcher, he really wanted to, to make it to be respected in vienna. And by this stablish meant as a check composer, which was, or he was always sitting like, less or thing. And actually was brahms, so it says, this is a talent, is it that im taking seriously . And it was supposed to be played at the Vienna Philharmonic and then suddenly she didnt hear back. No, no calls back on the front of the musician said no the so what she was going to was was very serious. I see of up in the music all the time is both with the photos of the and i didnt need another wants right to the needed needed this a spice of difference. The sounds a bit like um like uh, music books like up up like a doors. Mm hm. Then when you have it as an arabic, does it remind you of particular music at the new field . Thats where its coming from. Im from albania, and i started in the united states, and ive never heard this since 18 before i move in. So i was quite young of a sofa in 6. And then the 1st, the rehearsal we had with an orchestra. I was amazed how much this took me home fishing for me, especially the small notes that are such goose gestures. I think thats the whole Eastern European music and ive been in them Southern Europe as well. Course you can to years more in parts of the site. I think i can see the, the ive been in composer. Were very to actually the 1st one is a lot in someone between the Eastern Europe and then the left in america with this because we come from down the you know, everything is beautiful. Its like a sunset. Its like people find a really likes thing happened as 7. The mothers also dont forget that they are difficult to get here. Yes. The difference of the 2 worlds are always there. And you know the pot on the, on the, on the. Yeah, the, its like youre seeing in a 11 place, you know, a beautiful landscape of europe. And then in the 2nd, when you see the eyes of o, an Eastern European woman or something thats rocks and thats the, its always within like the next the whole there was always pain. There was always dont forget, which was like the major minor you know, so typical east europe. And i think that that yeah the hi john bob. Bob. Um find out. I think this is so strategy for looks like in the middle of such a beautiful the that place is a yes, like the fates. The weight of life no more displays. The thank you, trump, its marble and see is that that, that, that sometimes it sounds like a body there are these opposed and it forces in terms of the spirit of the music. But there are also so many common ideas and feelings and sentiments this quick change of spears that fascinates me about divorce youngs music to me how the, the 8th has such a spree and brilliancy on the grounds. The what do you think are the influences in music of florida . And i found a quote in a letter from 1889. When you want to know what i do and just know its easier than i expected it through the mail, it is just come to me. You know, so to me the, this is a nice to read it. The easy is also in great contrast, the problems who often tormented himself with his ideas and then tossed them out. The least of to see you often read that this 3rd movement takes its inspiration from a waltz, from tech, most of us tryst, a bunch of kosky interested. So 5th symphony, tchaikovsky, tchaikovsky, the, cannot escape. So i dont watch advice and know that many came in all of the symphonies. I think you can tell in the 3rd movement that many composers thoughts care. I cant write a sketch or like beethoven, ill have to do Something Else for jack in the 3rd moment. He puts his mark, he does what nobody else can do, but in this one he right this very much like the is so good. Its so beautiful. And to me, the most interesting singles of georgia is when shes showing those routes. Right. And those are the, the, the, the so original. I think he was, he was a person with humor kelly. Because when you announce Something Like fun, oh, sometimes its like, here comes the king and that sort of that. And then thinking enters the, its a big announcements for a very simple thing. The, there is a book of the memoirs of his son, the son this explains about how his father was already a famous man and how he said, oh, lets go fishing. And they would get to the fishing and then the minute they would be like the like. So we have to go, we have to go because i have an idea and i have to get this out. I have to go to the and he was composed and then the next phase they would try again to go fishing. And the same thing would happen and it just happened forever. And he says, i never was able to really fix it with my father. Because the moment that the an idea came, he just couldnt, he couldnt function, you have to get it out. The the that was part one of the symphonic cycle, which conducted alonzo at the panel at the twisting stock. And be sure to join us next week for part to the they have been fighting the hunter and be and more since the military coups, in 2021 the chance one to over through the military region there christian minority 6 to defend its territory and stand up for its democratic ideals. Despite high loss is the Group Struggle continues to close up in the 15 minutes on d w. 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